Hi Karen, What an interesting story! Shipwrecks and Salvage in South Africa by Malcolm Turner has 15 wrecks listed from 1830-1833 but none appear to be French. If you want a list of these please contact me off list. There was in 1829 L'Eole, a French ship on a voyage from Calcutta and Reunion, 12 men including the captain drowned. Then there was L'Aigle, a French whaler wrecked in 1834 at Slangkop where 3 men drowned. Later in 1840 La Lise was wrecked in Struis Bay while on a voyage from Mauritius to Bordeaux with 20 men drowned. I will have to do some more reading. Perhaps someone else could be of help here. Regards, Elva Qld, Australia > From: "Heather MacAlister - LearningOnline" > <Heather@learningonline.co.za> > Date: 19 May 2005 2:52:38 PM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member > > > Hello Karen > > The records you are looking for will be held in the Cape Government > Gazettes which are housed in the Cape Town Archives. > > These newspapers list the weekly intelligence shipping lists. > > www.familytree.co.za have done certain lists between the years of 1840 > and 1855 adding all the time. > > Some times passengers were mentioned but not always - generally only > 1st > class and 2nd class - the rest was just mentioned as a number. Eg and > 25 > passengers. > > There is a wonderful book on Shipwrecks off the Southern Coast of > Africa > but I am full of flu and I cannot remember the name but can see it in > front of me - it is on my wish list of books. > > Although there were hundreds of shipwrecks only the more notable ones > are mentioned in the book. > > My ancestors arrived because they were shipwrecked and I am also > looking > for that illusive missing ship and her passengers > > > Kind regards > > > Heather MacAlister > Site Manager > www.ancestry.mweb.co.za > www.familytree.co.za > > > Learning on Line > 46 Hof Street > Gardens > 8001 > > Tel: 021-481 8316 > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Reynolds [mailto:kamp4@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: 18 May 2005 10:42 PM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Karen Reynolds > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:32 PM > Subject: New Member > > > Hello All, > I am from the lovely South West area of Western Australia. > I am looking for information on James Abraham Mathew Moulton or Abraham > Mathew Moulton. > I have the following partial letter and was wondering where do I go > from > here? > Where would I find more information. Is there a shipping list for > departing ships and shipwrecks, or a business register? The following > happened about 1830-1833. > Abraham's letter reads, "I began business as a horse dealer and after a > few years I acquired a sufficiency to become an importer of horses, > mules and sheep etc to a considerable amount yearly. > My last voyage to "The Cape of Good Hope" cleared me a net profit of > seven hundred and fifty pounds and the whole operation was concluded in > four months. > I then realized all my property and found I was worth between five to > six thousand pounds Stirling. Which I laid out in Sugar, tea and spices > and shipped the whole lot aboard a French ship bound for Bourduex, bid > adieu to a host of friends and set sail a happy man, full of hopes for > the future". > The letter goes on and then... > "Eighteen days after I had not a shirt to my sunburnt back, nought of > bread to eat. > All was swolled up by the relentless ocean or strewn the whole > unfrequented shores of Southern Africa. The ship lost and nine of my > unfortunate passenger served as "pate" to the forocious animals and > Africa.I and several others found ourselves on an almost unknown coast > in danger every minute do being devoured by wild beast, neither food > nor > clothing and several hundred miles from and human inhabitants. > Courage did not forsake us. At daylight we began our journey to the > Cape > of Good Hope. We were incessantly harassed by the caffers and in danger > of being murdered. Dying with hunger, continually harassed by savages > our comrades dropping down through exhaustion we travelled about 700 > miles and were fortunate enough to meet a missionary who protected us > from the natives, fed us for a few days and they sent us on about 100 > miles more till we arrived at the kraal of a Dutch Boer, who received > us > with astonishment and kindness. From here we were conveyed to Cape > Town > in wagons. From house to house, like paupers in England. On our arrival > in Cape Town we were treated with the utmost humanity by the > inhabitants, the theatre gave two nights performonces for our benefit > and we were soon clothed and well fed. But then the past came fresh on > my mind, meeting with an acquaintance whose ship was proceeding to the > Isle De France, I determined to accept a passage that he was so kind to > of! > fer" > Here he leaves and returns to Bournon. > Strangely enough in later years 1846 he was murdered by his Mascar > crewman at sea. > Thank you for taking the time to read my story and I would be grateful > for any information, help and direction that I could get > Thanks again > Karen
Hello Ivy Very interesting.....I have one of Theals History of the Cape which mentions a chap which is said to be the Real Robinson Crusoe who actually came to the Cape - unfortunately cannot remember which volume it was in but will try and look it up. Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Site Manager www.ancestry.mweb.co.za www.familytree.co.za Learning on Line 46 Hof Street Gardens 8001 Tel: 021-481 8316 -----Original Message----- From: Ivy Trott [mailto:ivytrott@telkomsa.net] Sent: 20 May 2005 12:58 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member Elva, have you ever come across anything about a Dr. Brandt who was said to be shipwrecked from 'an East Indiaman' off Algoa Bay or Delagoa Bay. Supposed to have walked to Cape Town, accompanied by a dog and a monkey (baboon, maybe) and there was taken in by Farquharson, who was the Naval Agent. Farquharson died and he was then taken in my Dr. James Grant, who in his turn turned him over to Lt. James Grant who took him aboard the Lady Nelson. Lady Nelson was in Simonstown and Cape Town for three months in 1800. The original shipwreck was supposed to be seven years earlier. Brandt went with Grant to Australia, where he stayed. I've never found a shipwreck which fitted the scenario. The dog and the monkey went to Australia, too. Lt. Grant mentioned Dr. Brandt in his Ship's Log, and there is some reference to him in Australian archives, very briefly. I've always thought he sounded quite a character, and I and Australian friends have tried without success to find out more about him. He is said to have also worked at one of the healing waters spas in the Boland.... Go well, Ivy Trott. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elva Hanly" <theaviary@bigpond.com> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 5:29 AM Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member > Hi Karen, > > What an interesting story! Shipwrecks and Salvage in South Africa by > Malcolm Turner has 15 wrecks listed from 1830-1833 but none appear to be > French. If you want a list of these please contact me off list. > > There was in 1829 L'Eole, a French ship on a voyage from Calcutta and > Reunion, 12 men including the captain drowned. Then there was L'Aigle, a > French whaler wrecked in 1834 at Slangkop where 3 men drowned. Later in > 1840 La Lise was wrecked in Struis Bay while on a voyage from Mauritius to > Bordeaux with 20 men drowned. > > I will have to do some more reading. Perhaps someone else could be of help > here. > > Regards, > > Elva > Qld, Australia > >> From: "Heather MacAlister - LearningOnline" >> <Heather@learningonline.co.za> >> Date: 19 May 2005 2:52:38 PM >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member >> >> >> Hello Karen >> >> The records you are looking for will be held in the Cape Government >> Gazettes which are housed in the Cape Town Archives. >> >> These newspapers list the weekly intelligence shipping lists. >> >> www.familytree.co.za have done certain lists between the years of 1840 >> and 1855 adding all the time. >> >> Some times passengers were mentioned but not always - generally only 1st >> class and 2nd class - the rest was just mentioned as a number. Eg and 25 >> passengers. >> >> There is a wonderful book on Shipwrecks off the Southern Coast of Africa >> but I am full of flu and I cannot remember the name but can see it in >> front of me - it is on my wish list of books. >> >> Although there were hundreds of shipwrecks only the more notable ones >> are mentioned in the book. >> >> My ancestors arrived because they were shipwrecked and I am also looking >> for that illusive missing ship and her passengers >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> Heather MacAlister >> Site Manager >> www.ancestry.mweb.co.za >> www.familytree.co.za >> >> >> Learning on Line >> 46 Hof Street >> Gardens >> 8001 >> >> Tel: 021-481 8316 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Karen Reynolds [mailto:kamp4@optusnet.com.au] >> Sent: 18 May 2005 10:42 PM >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Karen Reynolds >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L-request@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:32 PM >> Subject: New Member >> >> >> Hello All, >> I am from the lovely South West area of Western Australia. >> I am looking for information on James Abraham Mathew Moulton or Abraham >> Mathew Moulton. >> I have the following partial letter and was wondering where do I go from >> here? >> Where would I find more information. Is there a shipping list for >> departing ships and shipwrecks, or a business register? The following >> happened about 1830-1833. >> Abraham's letter reads, "I began business as a horse dealer and after a >> few years I acquired a sufficiency to become an importer of horses, >> mules and sheep etc to a considerable amount yearly. >> My last voyage to "The Cape of Good Hope" cleared me a net profit of >> seven hundred and fifty pounds and the whole operation was concluded in >> four months. >> I then realized all my property and found I was worth between five to >> six thousand pounds Stirling. Which I laid out in Sugar, tea and spices >> and shipped the whole lot aboard a French ship bound for Bourduex, bid >> adieu to a host of friends and set sail a happy man, full of hopes for >> the future". >> The letter goes on and then... >> "Eighteen days after I had not a shirt to my sunburnt back, nought of >> bread to eat. >> All was swolled up by the relentless ocean or strewn the whole >> unfrequented shores of Southern Africa. The ship lost and nine of my >> unfortunate passenger served as "pate" to the forocious animals and >> Africa.I and several others found ourselves on an almost unknown coast >> in danger every minute do being devoured by wild beast, neither food nor >> clothing and several hundred miles from and human inhabitants. >> Courage did not forsake us. At daylight we began our journey to the Cape >> of Good Hope. We were incessantly harassed by the caffers and in danger >> of being murdered. Dying with hunger, continually harassed by savages >> our comrades dropping down through exhaustion we travelled about 700 >> miles and were fortunate enough to meet a missionary who protected us >> from the natives, fed us for a few days and they sent us on about 100 >> miles more till we arrived at the kraal of a Dutch Boer, who received us >> with astonishment and kindness. From here we were conveyed to Cape Town >> in wagons. From house to house, like paupers in England. On our arrival >> in Cape Town we were treated with the utmost humanity by the >> inhabitants, the theatre gave two nights performonces for our benefit >> and we were soon clothed and well fed. But then the past came fresh on >> my mind, meeting with an acquaintance whose ship was proceeding to the >> Isle De France, I determined to accept a passage that he was so kind to >> of! >> fer" >> Here he leaves and returns to Bournon. >> Strangely enough in later years 1846 he was murdered by his Mascar >> crewman at sea. >> Thank you for taking the time to read my story and I would be grateful >> for any information, help and direction that I could get >> Thanks again >> Karen > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > www.sagenealogy.co.za - passenger lists, genealogy links,CDs and books > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. 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Elva, have you ever come across anything about a Dr. Brandt who was said to be shipwrecked from 'an East Indiaman' off Algoa Bay or Delagoa Bay. Supposed to have walked to Cape Town, accompanied by a dog and a monkey (baboon, maybe) and there was taken in by Farquharson, who was the Naval Agent. Farquharson died and he was then taken in my Dr. James Grant, who in his turn turned him over to Lt. James Grant who took him aboard the Lady Nelson. Lady Nelson was in Simonstown and Cape Town for three months in 1800. The original shipwreck was supposed to be seven years earlier. Brandt went with Grant to Australia, where he stayed. I've never found a shipwreck which fitted the scenario. The dog and the monkey went to Australia, too. Lt. Grant mentioned Dr. Brandt in his Ship's Log, and there is some reference to him in Australian archives, very briefly. I've always thought he sounded quite a character, and I and Australian friends have tried without success to find out more about him. He is said to have also worked at one of the healing waters spas in the Boland.... Go well, Ivy Trott. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elva Hanly" <theaviary@bigpond.com> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 5:29 AM Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member > Hi Karen, > > What an interesting story! Shipwrecks and Salvage in South Africa by > Malcolm Turner has 15 wrecks listed from 1830-1833 but none appear to be > French. If you want a list of these please contact me off list. > > There was in 1829 L'Eole, a French ship on a voyage from Calcutta and > Reunion, 12 men including the captain drowned. Then there was L'Aigle, a > French whaler wrecked in 1834 at Slangkop where 3 men drowned. Later in > 1840 La Lise was wrecked in Struis Bay while on a voyage from Mauritius to > Bordeaux with 20 men drowned. > > I will have to do some more reading. Perhaps someone else could be of help > here. > > Regards, > > Elva > Qld, Australia > >> From: "Heather MacAlister - LearningOnline" >> <Heather@learningonline.co.za> >> Date: 19 May 2005 2:52:38 PM >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member >> >> >> Hello Karen >> >> The records you are looking for will be held in the Cape Government >> Gazettes which are housed in the Cape Town Archives. >> >> These newspapers list the weekly intelligence shipping lists. >> >> www.familytree.co.za have done certain lists between the years of 1840 >> and 1855 adding all the time. >> >> Some times passengers were mentioned but not always - generally only 1st >> class and 2nd class - the rest was just mentioned as a number. Eg and 25 >> passengers. >> >> There is a wonderful book on Shipwrecks off the Southern Coast of Africa >> but I am full of flu and I cannot remember the name but can see it in >> front of me - it is on my wish list of books. >> >> Although there were hundreds of shipwrecks only the more notable ones >> are mentioned in the book. >> >> My ancestors arrived because they were shipwrecked and I am also looking >> for that illusive missing ship and her passengers >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> Heather MacAlister >> Site Manager >> www.ancestry.mweb.co.za >> www.familytree.co.za >> >> >> Learning on Line >> 46 Hof Street >> Gardens >> 8001 >> >> Tel: 021-481 8316 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Karen Reynolds [mailto:kamp4@optusnet.com.au] >> Sent: 18 May 2005 10:42 PM >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Karen Reynolds >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L-request@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:32 PM >> Subject: New Member >> >> >> Hello All, >> I am from the lovely South West area of Western Australia. >> I am looking for information on James Abraham Mathew Moulton or Abraham >> Mathew Moulton. >> I have the following partial letter and was wondering where do I go from >> here? >> Where would I find more information. Is there a shipping list for >> departing ships and shipwrecks, or a business register? The following >> happened about 1830-1833. >> Abraham's letter reads, "I began business as a horse dealer and after a >> few years I acquired a sufficiency to become an importer of horses, >> mules and sheep etc to a considerable amount yearly. >> My last voyage to "The Cape of Good Hope" cleared me a net profit of >> seven hundred and fifty pounds and the whole operation was concluded in >> four months. >> I then realized all my property and found I was worth between five to >> six thousand pounds Stirling. Which I laid out in Sugar, tea and spices >> and shipped the whole lot aboard a French ship bound for Bourduex, bid >> adieu to a host of friends and set sail a happy man, full of hopes for >> the future". >> The letter goes on and then... >> "Eighteen days after I had not a shirt to my sunburnt back, nought of >> bread to eat. >> All was swolled up by the relentless ocean or strewn the whole >> unfrequented shores of Southern Africa. The ship lost and nine of my >> unfortunate passenger served as "pate" to the forocious animals and >> Africa.I and several others found ourselves on an almost unknown coast >> in danger every minute do being devoured by wild beast, neither food nor >> clothing and several hundred miles from and human inhabitants. >> Courage did not forsake us. At daylight we began our journey to the Cape >> of Good Hope. We were incessantly harassed by the caffers and in danger >> of being murdered. Dying with hunger, continually harassed by savages >> our comrades dropping down through exhaustion we travelled about 700 >> miles and were fortunate enough to meet a missionary who protected us >> from the natives, fed us for a few days and they sent us on about 100 >> miles more till we arrived at the kraal of a Dutch Boer, who received us >> with astonishment and kindness. From here we were conveyed to Cape Town >> in wagons. From house to house, like paupers in England. On our arrival >> in Cape Town we were treated with the utmost humanity by the >> inhabitants, the theatre gave two nights performonces for our benefit >> and we were soon clothed and well fed. But then the past came fresh on >> my mind, meeting with an acquaintance whose ship was proceeding to the >> Isle De France, I determined to accept a passage that he was so kind to >> of! >> fer" >> Here he leaves and returns to Bournon. >> Strangely enough in later years 1846 he was murdered by his Mascar >> crewman at sea. >> Thank you for taking the time to read my story and I would be grateful >> for any information, help and direction that I could get >> Thanks again >> Karen > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > www.sagenealogy.co.za - passenger lists, genealogy links,CDs and books > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005 > >
Hello Karen Welcome to the list. What an interesting letter - where did you get it? A quick search of the National Archive database found one reference to an Abraham Moulton. This could be him... MEMORIALS RECEIVED. ABRAHAM MOULTON. REQUEST TO REMAIN IN THE COLONY. 1822 You will have to request this document from the Archives or engage the services of a private researcher to access it for you. The latter is probably going to be the quickest as the staff at the archives are under pressure at the moment. I also had a look at Malcolm Turner's excellent book called "Shipwrecks & Salvage" for the period 1829 - 1834 for any wrecks which might fit. (I am assuming that the ship departed from Cape Town). There was only one French ship wrecked on the 12th April 1829 - the "L'Eole" - 48kms south west of Bashee River which is on the East coast of South Africa (north of East London) - according to what he says in the letter they were wrecked about 18 days (out of Cape Town) on their way to Bordeaux so this is the wrong coast I'm afraid. The only other French ship wrecked was "L'Aigle" at Slangkop on the Cape Peninsula. 700 miles (about 1126km) would have put them far North of Cape Town - up the West Coast into what is now called Namibia and would have been a very difficult journey through semi desert. Does he say anything else about the journey at all - maybe we can pick up some more clues Regards Sharon Warr South African Genealogy - Lots of links, passenger lists, Immigrants and more - www.sagenealogy.co.za Scribes Publishing - South African historical resources on CD www.sagenealogy.co.za/scribes.htm
Hello Karen The records you are looking for will be held in the Cape Government Gazettes which are housed in the Cape Town Archives. These newspapers list the weekly intelligence shipping lists. www.familytree.co.za have done certain lists between the years of 1840 and 1855 adding all the time. Some times passengers were mentioned but not always - generally only 1st class and 2nd class - the rest was just mentioned as a number. Eg and 25 passengers. There is a wonderful book on Shipwrecks off the Southern Coast of Africa but I am full of flu and I cannot remember the name but can see it in front of me - it is on my wish list of books. Although there were hundreds of shipwrecks only the more notable ones are mentioned in the book. My ancestors arrived because they were shipwrecked and I am also looking for that illusive missing ship and her passengers Kind regards Heather MacAlister Site Manager www.ancestry.mweb.co.za www.familytree.co.za Learning on Line 46 Hof Street Gardens 8001 Tel: 021-481 8316 -----Original Message----- From: Karen Reynolds [mailto:kamp4@optusnet.com.au] Sent: 18 May 2005 10:42 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: New Member Hello All, I am from the lovely South West area of Western Australia. I am looking for information on James Abraham Mathew Moulton or Abraham Mathew Moulton. I have the following partial letter and was wondering where do I go from here? Where would I find more information. Is there a shipping list for departing ships and shipwrecks, or a business register? The following happened about 1830-1833. Abraham's letter reads, "I began business as a horse dealer and after a few years I acquired a sufficiency to become an importer of horses, mules and sheep etc to a considerable amount yearly. My last voyage to "The Cape of Good Hope" cleared me a net profit of seven hundred and fifty pounds and the whole operation was concluded in four months. I then realized all my property and found I was worth between five to six thousand pounds Stirling. Which I laid out in Sugar, tea and spices and shipped the whole lot aboard a French ship bound for Bourduex, bid adieu to a host of friends and set sail a happy man, full of hopes for the future". The letter goes on and then... "Eighteen days after I had not a shirt to my sunburnt back, nought of bread to eat. All was swolled up by the relentless ocean or strewn the whole unfrequented shores of Southern Africa. The ship lost and nine of my unfortunate passenger served as "pate" to the forocious animals and Africa.I and several others found ourselves on an almost unknown coast in danger every minute do being devoured by wild beast, neither food nor clothing and several hundred miles from and human inhabitants. Courage did not forsake us. At daylight we began our journey to the Cape of Good Hope. We were incessantly harassed by the caffers and in danger of being murdered. Dying with hunger, continually harassed by savages our comrades dropping down through exhaustion we travelled about 700 miles and were fortunate enough to meet a missionary who protected us from the natives, fed us for a few days and they sent us on about 100 miles more till we arrived at the kraal of a Dutch Boer, who received us with astonishment and kindness. From here we were conveyed to Cape Town in wagons. From house to house, like paupers in England. On our arrival in Cape Town we were treated with the utmost humanity by the inhabitants, the theatre gave two nights performonces for our benefit and we were soon clothed and well fed. But then the past came fresh on my mind, meeting with an acquaintance whose ship was proceeding to the Isle De France, I determined to accept a passage that he was so kind to of! fer" Here he leaves and returns to Bournon. Strangely enough in later years 1846 he was murdered by his Mascar crewman at sea. Thank you for taking the time to read my story and I would be grateful for any information, help and direction that I could get Thanks again Karen ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx
----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Reynolds To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: New Member Hello All, I am from the lovely South West area of Western Australia. I am looking for information on James Abraham Mathew Moulton or Abraham Mathew Moulton. I have the following partial letter and was wondering where do I go from here? Where would I find more information. Is there a shipping list for departing ships and shipwrecks, or a business register? The following happened about 1830-1833. Abraham's letter reads, "I began business as a horse dealer and after a few years I acquired a sufficiency to become an importer of horses, mules and sheep etc to a considerable amount yearly. My last voyage to "The Cape of Good Hope" cleared me a net profit of seven hundred and fifty pounds and the whole operation was concluded in four months. I then realized all my property and found I was worth between five to six thousand pounds Stirling. Which I laid out in Sugar, tea and spices and shipped the whole lot aboard a French ship bound for Bourduex, bid adieu to a host of friends and set sail a happy man, full of hopes for the future". The letter goes on and then... "Eighteen days after I had not a shirt to my sunburnt back, nought of bread to eat. All was swolled up by the relentless ocean or strewn the whole unfrequented shores of Southern Africa. The ship lost and nine of my unfortunate passenger served as "pate" to the forocious animals and Africa.I and several others found ourselves on an almost unknown coast in danger every minute do being devoured by wild beast, neither food nor clothing and several hundred miles from and human inhabitants. Courage did not forsake us. At daylight we began our journey to the Cape of Good Hope. We were incessantly harassed by the caffers and in danger of being murdered. Dying with hunger, continually harassed by savages our comrades dropping down through exhaustion we travelled about 700 miles and were fortunate enough to meet a missionary who protected us from the natives, fed us for a few days and they sent us on about 100 miles more till we arrived at the kraal of a Dutch Boer, who received us with astonishment and kindness. From here we were conveyed to Cape Town in wagons. From house to house, like paupers in England. On our arrival in Cape Town we were treated with the utmost humanity by the inhabitants, the theatre gave two nights performonces for our benefit and we were soon clothed and well fed. But then the past came fresh on my mind, meeting with an acquaintance whose ship was proceeding to the Isle De France, I determined to accept a passage that he was so kind to of! fer" Here he leaves and returns to Bournon. Strangely enough in later years 1846 he was murdered by his Mascar crewman at sea. Thank you for taking the time to read my story and I would be grateful for any information, help and direction that I could get Thanks again Karen
I'm trying to find a name of a "well known" grocery store in Cape Town from abt 1899-1912......Mac something? Can anyone help? Lynn Couperthwaite PO Box 3209 Tannum Sands 4680 Queensland Australia Tel/Fax:: 61 7 4973 2962
Hi Coral Anna, And, what's more, I have spotted more than one Coetzee-Coetzee marriage. Hey, nothing new with our SA ancestors, so give me something to work with. I love a challenge. Regards, Elva > From: theaviary@bigpond.com > Subject: COETZEE > Date: 17 May 2005 6:47:29 PM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Coral Anna, > > I have collected quite a bit of genealogical info on the COETZEE > family. If you give me the names and dates of yours I may have > something, who nows. > > I do not know if the COETZEEs I am researching have ties in Ceres but > it is worth a try. > > Regards, > > Elva > >> From: "Foster, Coral A." <Coral.Anna.Foster@wwrc.virginia.gov> >> Date: 17 May 2005 2:17:57 AM >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Re: New Member >> >> >> Hey Elva: >> >> My mother's MN was Coetzee and both her parents were Coetzee's, so >> chances are...? I don't know that we're related to G-R folk, but I >> do know that some of the family were well settled in the Ceres area. >> Do you have any "ties" to this area too? >> kind regards, >> Coral Anna >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Elva Hanly [mailto:theaviary@bigpond.com] >> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 6:37 AM >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Re: New Member >> >> >> Hi Adele, >> >> Welcome to the CT List! >> >> I have a Maria Christina MARAIS who married district Venterstad >> 25-3-1948 to Johannes Cornelis COETZEE of Graaff-Reinet, and am trying >> to find her parents. Her date of birth is unknown to me but she died >> in >> 1915. Would you have any information about this lady please? >> >> Sorry, I am unable to help with your other names but if you give some >> more detail, I am very observant and will forward anything of >> importance. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Elva
Hi Coral Anna, I have collected quite a bit of genealogical info on the COETZEE family. If you give me the names and dates of yours I may have something, who nows. I do not know if the COETZEEs I am researching have ties in Ceres but it is worth a try. Regards, Elva > From: "Foster, Coral A." <Coral.Anna.Foster@wwrc.virginia.gov> > Date: 17 May 2005 2:17:57 AM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Re: New Member > > > Hey Elva: > > My mother's MN was Coetzee and both her parents were Coetzee's, so > chances are...? I don't know that we're related to G-R folk, but I do > know that some of the family were well settled in the Ceres area. Do > you have any "ties" to this area too? > kind regards, > Coral Anna > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elva Hanly [mailto:theaviary@bigpond.com] > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 6:37 AM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Re: New Member > > > Hi Adele, > > Welcome to the CT List! > > I have a Maria Christina MARAIS who married district Venterstad > 25-3-1948 to Johannes Cornelis COETZEE of Graaff-Reinet, and am trying > to find her parents. Her date of birth is unknown to me but she died in > 1915. Would you have any information about this lady please? > > Sorry, I am unable to help with your other names but if you give some > more detail, I am very observant and will forward anything of > importance. > > Kind regards, > > Elva
Good Morning Elva: Thanks for your reply. I will get back with dates/names/places later this week. I'll have to get my books out. It would be nice to get some of my Mum's family connected! Have a great day, Coral Anna -----Original Message----- From: Elva Hanly [mailto:theaviary@bigpond.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 5:01 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Re: COETZEE Hi Coral Anna, And, what's more, I have spotted more than one Coetzee-Coetzee marriage. Hey, nothing new with our SA ancestors, so give me something to work with. I love a challenge. Regards, Elva > From: theaviary@bigpond.com > Subject: COETZEE > Date: 17 May 2005 6:47:29 PM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Coral Anna, > > I have collected quite a bit of genealogical info on the COETZEE > family. If you give me the names and dates of yours I may have > something, who nows. > > I do not know if the COETZEEs I am researching have ties in Ceres but > it is worth a try. > > Regards, > > Elva > >> From: "Foster, Coral A." <Coral.Anna.Foster@wwrc.virginia.gov> >> Date: 17 May 2005 2:17:57 AM >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Re: New Member >> >> >> Hey Elva: >> >> My mother's MN was Coetzee and both her parents were Coetzee's, so >> chances are...? I don't know that we're related to G-R folk, but I >> do know that some of the family were well settled in the Ceres area. >> Do you have any "ties" to this area too? >> kind regards, >> Coral Anna >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Elva Hanly [mailto:theaviary@bigpond.com] >> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 6:37 AM >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Re: New Member >> >> >> Hi Adele, >> >> Welcome to the CT List! >> >> I have a Maria Christina MARAIS who married district Venterstad >> 25-3-1948 to Johannes Cornelis COETZEE of Graaff-Reinet, and am trying >> to find her parents. Her date of birth is unknown to me but she died >> in >> 1915. Would you have any information about this lady please? >> >> Sorry, I am unable to help with your other names but if you give some >> more detail, I am very observant and will forward anything of >> importance. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Elva ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== www.sagenealogy.co.za - passenger lists, genealogy links,CDs and books ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx * CONFIDENTIALITY/PRIVACY NOTICE - The documents included in this transmission may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the information to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of these documents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document in error, please notify the sender immediately to arrange for return or destruction of these documents.
Hi Adele, Welcome to the CT List! I have a Maria Christina MARAIS who married district Venterstad 25-3-1948 to Johannes Cornelis COETZEE of Graaff-Reinet, and am trying to find her parents. Her date of birth is unknown to me but she died in 1915. Would you have any information about this lady please? Sorry, I am unable to help with your other names but if you give some more detail, I am very observant and will forward anything of importance. Kind regards, Elva > From: Adèle <avr@planet.nl> > Date: 15 May 2005 11:28:00 PM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: New member > > > Hi everybody > > I'd like to introduce myself to you all. I'm doing research on > MOSTERT, ERASMUS, MARAIS, MARÉ, VAN ZIJL, GROENEWALD, VAN ROSSUM and > GOOSENS. That's my husband's as well as my own family. > > I would like to trade info with anyone interested! > > Adèle van Rossum-Mostert
Hi Elva I have no information on the lady in question, but will pass it on if I do come across anything. Sorry. Adèle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elva Hanly" <theaviary@bigpond.com> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 12:37 PM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Re: New Member > Hi Adele, > > Welcome to the CT List! > > I have a Maria Christina MARAIS who married district Venterstad > 25-3-1948 to Johannes Cornelis COETZEE of Graaff-Reinet, and am trying > to find her parents. Her date of birth is unknown to me but she died in > 1915. Would you have any information about this lady please? > > Sorry, I am unable to help with your other names but if you give some > more detail, I am very observant and will forward anything of > importance. > > Kind regards, > > Elva > > > From: Adèle <avr@planet.nl> > > Date: 15 May 2005 11:28:00 PM > > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: New member > > > > > > Hi everybody > > > > I'd like to introduce myself to you all. I'm doing research on > > MOSTERT, ERASMUS, MARAIS, MARÉ, VAN ZIJL, GROENEWALD, VAN ROSSUM and > > GOOSENS. That's my husband's as well as my own family. > > > > I would like to trade info with anyone interested! > > > > Adèle van Rossum-Mostert > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > Cape Town Family History Society > www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >
Hey Elva: My mother's MN was Coetzee and both her parents were Coetzee's, so chances are...? I don't know that we're related to G-R folk, but I do know that some of the family were well settled in the Ceres area. Do you have any "ties" to this area too? kind regards, Coral Anna -----Original Message----- From: Elva Hanly [mailto:theaviary@bigpond.com] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 6:37 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Re: New Member Hi Adele, Welcome to the CT List! I have a Maria Christina MARAIS who married district Venterstad 25-3-1948 to Johannes Cornelis COETZEE of Graaff-Reinet, and am trying to find her parents. Her date of birth is unknown to me but she died in 1915. Would you have any information about this lady please? Sorry, I am unable to help with your other names but if you give some more detail, I am very observant and will forward anything of importance. Kind regards, Elva > From: Adèle <avr@planet.nl> > Date: 15 May 2005 11:28:00 PM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: New member > > > Hi everybody > > I'd like to introduce myself to you all. I'm doing research on > MOSTERT, ERASMUS, MARAIS, MARÉ, VAN ZIJL, GROENEWALD, VAN ROSSUM and > GOOSENS. That's my husband's as well as my own family. > > I would like to trade info with anyone interested! > > Adèle van Rossum-Mostert ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx * CONFIDENTIALITY/PRIVACY NOTICE - The documents included in this transmission may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the information to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of these documents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document in error, please notify the sender immediately to arrange for return or destruction of these documents.
Hello Adèle Welcome to the list. If you give a few more specific details about some of these names (dates and places) I am sure there will be someone with a connection. Regards SharonWarr South African Genealogy - Lots of links, passenger lists, Immigrants and more - www.sagenealogy.co.za Scribes Publishing - South African historical resources on CD www.sagenealogy.co.za/scribes.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adèle" <avr@planet.nl> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] New member > Hi everybody > > I'd like to introduce myself to you all. I'm doing research on MOSTERT, > ERASMUS, MARAIS, MARÉ, VAN ZIJL, GROENEWALD, VAN ROSSUM and GOOSENS. > That's my husband's as well as my own family. > > I would like to trade info with anyone interested! > > Adèle van Rossum-Mostert > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > Cape Town Family History Society > www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >
Hi Adele >I'd like to introduce myself to you all. I'm doing research on MOSTERT, ERASMUS, >MARAIS, MARÉ, VAN ZIJL, GROENEWALD, VAN ROSSUM and GOOSENS. That's my husband's as > >well as my own family. >I would like to trade info with anyone interested! Well then, if you are related to VanZIJL and MOSTERT then we are morte than likely related!! My gfather was Andreas Le Grange Van ZIJL (not ZYL) and they married into my HOLLOWAY family which also married MOSTERT's. It's a long story, and VERY complicated.. Colyn Brookes Project Director MIBISA (Military Burials In South Africa) Archive Project Volunteer, British War Memorial Project SA Coordinator, Australian War Graves Photograph Archives http://gallery146080.fotopic.net/ cedwardb@mweb.co.za Tel/Fax +27-21-930-2752 Mobile 083-252-0450
Hi Adele Welcome, I'm no help with your research as I am looking for Coombs in Capetown, but you are welcome anyway Regards Meryl -----Original Message----- From: Adèle [mailto:avr@planet.nl] Sent: 15 May 2005 14:28 To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] New member Hi everybody I'd like to introduce myself to you all. I'm doing research on MOSTERT, ERASMUS, MARAIS, MARÉ, VAN ZIJL, GROENEWALD, VAN ROSSUM and GOOSENS. That's my husband's as well as my own family. I would like to trade info with anyone interested! Adèle van Rossum-Mostert ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx
Hi everybody I'd like to introduce myself to you all. I'm doing research on MOSTERT, ERASMUS, MARAIS, MARÉ, VAN ZIJL, GROENEWALD, VAN ROSSUM and GOOSENS. That's my husband's as well as my own family. I would like to trade info with anyone interested! Adèle van Rossum-Mostert
Hi all, In response to John van Niekerk, Thelma Hurly, Anne Lehmkuhl & others' e-mails in the last few days, please take note of the following book concerning Eva-Krotoa & Pieter van Meerhoff's daughter: Pieternella. If anyone ever gets the opportunity to read Daleen Mathee's PIETERNELLA VAN DIE KAAP, will not just read a good piece of literature, but will be blown away by the magnitude of fact & years of research that went into collecting material for this historical story. The book chronicles Pieternella's early childhood at the Cape as well as her life & marriage in Mauritius & has numerous flashbacks to Eva-Krotoa. (Note: there are suggestions, in the book at least, that Pieternella may have been fathered by Van Riebeeck himself). Eva-Krotoa's other children (Jakobus & Solomon whom she had with Pieter van Meerhoff & Anthonie who was fathered after Van Meerhoff's death) are also described in the book. Other figures of the time who are mentioned in detail includes: MAIJKE VAN DEN BERG (banned to Mauritius); WILLEM VAN DEVENTER (banned as well for murder); BARTHOLOMEUS BORMS & his wife, THEUNTJIE VAN DER LINDE; HENDRIK LACUS & his wife, LYDIA DE PAAPE; and many more. Unfortunately for Englishspeaking listmembers this book is only available in Afrikaans. However, some of her other books were translated into English, so one never knows. Further, I am aware that the author received a government grant (from the National Arts Council) to research & write this book. Also, her years of research took her to the Netherlands, Mauritius & the Cape. A complete source list is found at the back of the book. For those interested in getting a copy of PIETERNELLA VAN DIE KAAP, it was published in 2000 by Tafelberg-Uitgewers (Tafelberg Publishers). ISBN 0 624 03784 3. Daleen Mathee is probably best known for FIELA SE KIND (Fiela's Child) & KRINGE IN 'N BOS (Circles in a Forest). Sadly, she passed away earlier this year. Hope this info will be of some help to somebody on the list. Regards, Estie Mortinson MORTENSEN / VAN DER WESTHUIZEN / WILSON / WILKEN(S) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John van Niekerk" <jfvn@iafrica.com> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New slave grave > According to J.D.F. Jones the author of "STORYTELLER" The many lives of > Laurens van der Post, Eva (1643- 1674)married Pieter van Meerhoff at a > state organised wedding and is a direct ancestor of Laurens van der Post > (See page 84). The family register is setout in full at the beginning of > the book.
Hi Anne I had most of this information but I didn't have the Liquidation & Distribution Ref for Angela - thank you very much for providing that - and it also gives me an alternative spelling on which to search as well. I also have seven children listed as children from her marriage to Arnoldus Willemsz Basson contrary to this information that gives only three. I now have the entire direct line of descent from Angela to the Hurly family - hence my interest in trying to fill in more of the detail on all in the direct line - and thanks to Dr Robin Pelteret in Capetown I also have the branch lines for the Serrurier and Berrange families, and the links to the Nelson family from the Trees he has published on the Internet giving me the Huguenot ancestors as well. A couple of years ago there was a TV programme on Angela which dealt with her Estate in great detail - but unfortunately at the time I hadn't traced the complete line otherwise I might have taken more notice of the finer detail and sources. Now I'm trying to get a copy of the programme if there is one available. Haven't had much success thus far in that direction. I have Kites of Fortune on order and although fictional hope it may also reveal a few snippets of information about Anna as the write-up states Theresa Benade has used Archival research material as the basis for the story. Both Angela and her daughter flew their Kites with great success it would appear! This has been one really interesting and revealing genealogical journey - just wish some of my own ancestors were as interesting and as well documented as so many of these early settlers in the Cape Colony were. Many thanks for taking the time to look up all these details - I really do appreciate it. Regards and best wishes Thelma Johannesburg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Lehmkuhl" <ZAFamilyHistory@yahoo.ca> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Re: New slave grave > Doesn't answer your question but you might find the following books of > interest. > Kites of Good Fortune, by Theresa BENADE, New Africa Books, 2004 > A Tapestry of Lives, by June McKINNON, ISBN 0795701225, 2004 > The first manumitted slave women were Katrina of Bengal, Maria of Bengal > and Angela of Bengal. . In 1669 she married Arnoldus Willemsz > BASSON, with whom she had 3 children. He died in 1689 and she inherited > 6495 guilders. She died in circa 1720 (MOOC Vol. no. 13/1/2 Ref. 1, Ansla > van Bengalen, Liquidation & Distribution Account). At the time, she owned > the farm Hondswyk in Drakenstein and her estate was valued at 14808 > guilders.
>Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 02:04:46 +0200 >From: "Thelma Hurly" <tjhurly@mweb.co.za> >Slightly off this topic in a way, but does anyone have any idea where I can >find details of the burial of Angela of Bengal or her daughter Anna de >Koningh. Angela was a Slave bought in 1654 by van Riebeeck together with >three children and Domingo of Bengal reputedly her husband at the time, she >was later sold to van Riebeeck's deputy who freed Angela and her >children when he left the Cape in 1666 - making Angela the third slave freed >I believe. Angela married Arnoldus Willemsz Basson in 1669. She died c >1720. Her daughter Anna de Koningh (little other than the surname is known >about Anna's father) married Oloff Bergh b 1643 in Sweden. They married in >the Cape c 1678 and Oloff was already a wealthy Burgher by then, later >owning the farm Contantia and other farms and properties in the Cape Colony >and in the Heerengracht. >Is there anyone else on the list descended from Angela of Bengal or anyone >researching any of the associated families who can point me in the right >direction re Angela or Anna's burial place. Hi Doesn't answer your question but you might find the following books of interest. Kites of Good Fortune, by Theresa BENADE, New Africa Books, 2004 A descendant of Angela of Bengal, a slave in the employ of Jan van Riebeeck, Theresa traces the life of her daughter, Anna de Koning, who married Swede Olof Bergh. Theresa used archival and museum research. A Tapestry of Lives, by June McKINNON, ISBN 0795701225, 2004 A collection of portraits of approx. 40 women at the Cape, including Eva KROTOA and her mistress, Maria DE QUEILLERIE; Maria MOUTON who had an affair with her slave and suffered the terrible punishment; Nicola SIX the power behind Simon VAN DE STEL; Angela of Bengal who escaped the hell of slavery; Anna RODOLPHUS who disguised herself as a soldier to find love and adventure at the Cape. The first manumitted slave women were Katrina of Bengal, Maria of Bengal and Angela of Bengal. Angela of Bengal (aka Ansiela or Mooij/Maaij Ansela) bought in 1655 by Jan VAN RIEBEECK from Pierre/Pieter KEMP. She was baptised 29 April 1668. While still a slave, her daughter Anna de Koning was born from an extra-marital relationship. Anna married Captain Oloff BERGH. VAN RIEBEECK sold Angela to Abraham GABBEMA, his deputy, in 1662. He granted Angela and her 3 children freedom before he left for Batavia in 1666, on condition that she work for 6 months in the home of Thomas Christoffel MULLER. She obtained a piece of land in what is now Cape Town's Adderley Street, in February 1667. In 1669 she married Arnoldus Willemsz BASSON, with whom she had 3 children. He died in 1689 and she inherited 6495 guilders. She died in circa 1720 (MOOC Vol. no. 13/1/2 Ref. 1, Ansla van Bengalen, Liquidation & Distribution Account). At the time, she owned the farm Hondswyk in Drakenstein and her estate was valued at 14808 guilders. __________/\/******\/\______ Anne Lehmkuhl, London, UK http://www.rupert.net/~lkool/ Information & the South African Genealogical Research Directory