Hi Heather Thanks for your advice. My person I'm trying to trace was called EMMA NEVIILE, she was born in Capetown in 1848, her fathers name which appaers on her British marriage certificate in June1871 was ROBERT NEVILLE, her father was stated as being a builder. I think she was married in a Presbyterian church, though I am not 100% sure. After this I have very little information on her family. If you can help it would be much appreciated. Many thanks. Michael Morgan

Hi all, can anyone advise me how I can obtain a birth certificate for a birth which occurred in Cape Town in 1848, the subjects parents were born in Britain and she later returned back to Britain to live. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thanks Michael Morgan

Elizabeth, Others are now helping you. Where do you live and why your choice of email address! David B -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth [mailto:patriot.afrikaans@elisanet.fi] Sent: 29 June 2005 10:18 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] STANLEY ( 2) Good Morning David, Regret, wrote the query in bullet format from thouhts. I searched for information in PMB on Stanley families and founded 3 groups of families.I took notice of one familie which was murdered by the natives except one son Joseph c. 1820 . Jospeh R STANLEY x Louisa H M GROENEWALD Date??? They had 7 or 8 children but informal sources cann`t say if it was 4 sons & 3 daughters /4 daugthers & 3 sons. I have no details on them. Can anyone help? They lived in the Cape. Kind regards Elizabeth ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== www.sagenealogy.co.za - passenger lists, genealogy links,CDs and books ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Posting this Site re the loss of the S S Ceramic in 1942. There were military and civilian passengers aboard. Many of the passengers on board were South Africans returning to their homes. The ship was torpedoed and there was only one survivor who was taken aboard the German submarine when it returned to the site of the attack - all other survivors were left to perish. The site contains a casualty list where many of the names of those lost are listed including many South Africans - thought it might be of interest for anyone looking for relatives and descendants who may have been amongst those listed here. http://www.geocities.com/mulderspants/S_S_CERAMIC.html#top Thelma Johannesburg South Africa

Good Afternoon Sharon, James STANLEY could be a lead to one of the children. Theophilus STANLEY was born c. 1878/9 birthplace Uniondale Cape P and Louisa 1894. I did managed to find in Naairs documents for them of both. At the time of Theopilus death he was staying at Roy Rd, Wynberg Cape married to Johanna W ??? Children order is unkown. His 3rd had his mother second name. He had only one son which I have difficulties to trace-AM STANLEY Kind regards Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Warr" <snw@absamail.co.za> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] STANLEY ( 2) > Hi Elizabeth > I have found a J STANLEY living at 32 Sir Lowry Road, Cape Town in the > 1900 Cape Almanac. There are also a few other STANLEYs namely A W STANLEY > , C STANLEY , H STANLEY and a Mrs R STANLEY at various addresses in Cape > Town. The 1902 Voter's Roll has a James STANLEY and a John STANLEY. > Don't know if any of these STANLEYs fit in to your STANLEYs but they are > relevant to the ABO/W (Anglo Boere-Oorlog/Anglo Boer War period.) > Hope this helps - hope you get more replies. > > Sharon Warr > List Administrator > > > South African Genealogy - Lots of links, passenger lists, Immigrants and > more - www.sagenealogy.co.za > Scribes Publishing - South African historical resources on CD > www.sagenealogy.co.za/scribes.htm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elizabeth" <patriot.afrikaans@elisanet.fi> > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:18 AM > Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] STANLEY ( 2) > > >> Good Morning David, >> >> Regret, wrote the query in bullet format from thouhts. I searched for >> information in PMB on Stanley families and founded 3 groups of families.I >> took notice of one familie which was murdered by the natives except one >> son Joseph c. 1820 . >> >> Jospeh R STANLEY x Louisa H M GROENEWALD Date??? They had 7 or 8 >> children but informal sources cann`t say if it was 4 sons & 3 daughters >> /4 daugthers & 3 sons. I have no details on them. >> >> Can anyone help? They lived in the Cape. >> >> Kind regards >> Elizabeth >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== >> www.sagenealogy.co.za - passenger lists, genealogy links,CDs and books >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > Cape Town Family History Society > www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Good Morning David, Regret, wrote the query in bullet format from thouhts. I searched for information in PMB on Stanley families and founded 3 groups of families.I took notice of one familie which was murdered by the natives except one son Joseph c. 1820 . Jospeh R STANLEY x Louisa H M GROENEWALD Date??? They had 7 or 8 children but informal sources cann`t say if it was 4 sons & 3 daughters /4 daugthers & 3 sons. I have no details on them. Can anyone help? They lived in the Cape. Kind regards Elizabeth

Did you come across and Samuel Riddle please? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Warr" <snw@absamail.co.za> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] STANLEY ( 2) > Hi Elizabeth > I have found a J STANLEY living at 32 Sir Lowry Road, Cape Town in the 1900 > Cape Almanac. There are also a few other STANLEYs namely A W STANLEY , C > STANLEY , H STANLEY and a Mrs R STANLEY at various addresses in Cape Town. > The 1902 Voter's Roll has a James STANLEY and a John STANLEY. Don't know > if any of these STANLEYs fit in to your STANLEYs but they are relevant to > the ABO/W (Anglo Boere-Oorlog/Anglo Boer War period.) > Hope this helps - hope you get more replies. > > Sharon Warr > List Administrator > > > South African Genealogy - Lots of links, passenger lists, Immigrants and > more - www.sagenealogy.co.za > Scribes Publishing - South African historical resources on CD > www.sagenealogy.co.za/scribes.htm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elizabeth" <patriot.afrikaans@elisanet.fi> > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:18 AM > Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] STANLEY ( 2) > > > > Good Morning David, > > > > Regret, wrote the query in bullet format from thouhts. I searched for > > information in PMB on Stanley families and founded 3 groups of families.I > > took notice of one familie which was murdered by the natives except one > > son Joseph c. 1820 . > > > > Jospeh R STANLEY x Louisa H M GROENEWALD Date??? They had 7 or 8 > > children but informal sources cann`t say if it was 4 sons & 3 daughters /4 > > daugthers & 3 sons. I have no details on them. > > > > Can anyone help? They lived in the Cape. > > > > Kind regards > > Elizabeth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > > www.sagenealogy.co.za - passenger lists, genealogy links,CDs and books > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > Cape Town Family History Society > www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi Elizabeth I have found a J STANLEY living at 32 Sir Lowry Road, Cape Town in the 1900 Cape Almanac. There are also a few other STANLEYs namely A W STANLEY , C STANLEY , H STANLEY and a Mrs R STANLEY at various addresses in Cape Town. The 1902 Voter's Roll has a James STANLEY and a John STANLEY. Don't know if any of these STANLEYs fit in to your STANLEYs but they are relevant to the ABO/W (Anglo Boere-Oorlog/Anglo Boer War period.) Hope this helps - hope you get more replies. Sharon Warr List Administrator South African Genealogy - Lots of links, passenger lists, Immigrants and more - www.sagenealogy.co.za Scribes Publishing - South African historical resources on CD www.sagenealogy.co.za/scribes.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth" <patriot.afrikaans@elisanet.fi> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:18 AM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] STANLEY ( 2) > Good Morning David, > > Regret, wrote the query in bullet format from thouhts. I searched for > information in PMB on Stanley families and founded 3 groups of families.I > took notice of one familie which was murdered by the natives except one > son Joseph c. 1820 . > > Jospeh R STANLEY x Louisa H M GROENEWALD Date??? They had 7 or 8 > children but informal sources cann`t say if it was 4 sons & 3 daughters /4 > daugthers & 3 sons. I have no details on them. > > Can anyone help? They lived in the Cape. > > Kind regards > Elizabeth > > > > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > www.sagenealogy.co.za - passenger lists, genealogy links,CDs and books > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >

Hi Elizabeth, I se that nobody has replied to your request. I have tried to but cannot make head or tail of what you are asking. What is AOB? Do you mean Anglo-Boereoorlog? How does a person arrive after the war with his family but have ? two sons killed in it. Try again, set the request out logically, use capitals for surnames and perhaps someone will be able to help. If you want to ask the question in Afrikaans and I will translate for you if you want me to. Regards, DavidB -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth [mailto:patriot.afrikaans@elisanet.fi] Sent: 26 June 2005 08:20 To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Intr. Stanley 1 Good Afternoon All, I have been trying to find a lead on this Stanley family group. The father should be JR Stanley ? away after the AOB but before 1917 x LHM Groenewald???? Although they lived in Cape Town all their lives. When he arrive in the Cape is also not know. They had 7 or 8 children. Unsure if it 4 Males and 3 Females or the opposite. There is a possibility that one of the daughters did return to England. At least two of the sons were killed in the AOB. Then In Naairs I found a Uncle/brother TT Standley which gave his wife as JW. Uniondale?? His Father was a R Stanley Mother I Stanley Which does not correspond although the children names does. It was mentioned that the father family was hardly debated on. One of this family group has built a house in phases in Hout Bay called Salamander ?? Search result Whaling and a Tin Mine. I have a photo of a part of this house which was totally square and look like stone was used with a small bridge on the corner. Any suggestion? Kind regards Elizabeth ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Thank you, Elva. I've been finding bits and pieces on the internet too - a delicious picture of Napoleon leaning on a spade like any other retired chap pottering in the garden. Unbelievable! I'll see if the local library can find the book - but lately I find that when I walk in with my list of books the staff somehow all seem to be on coffee!!! Only joking - they try to help, bless them, but so little is available somehow. There's always amazon.com, though - another internet treasure. We do have fun, don't we? Help appreciated. Go well! Ivy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elva Hanly" <theaviary@bigpond.com> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] St. Helena > Hi Ivy, > > I have just recently read The Emperor's Last Island - a Journey to St > Helena, by Julia Blackburn. This book covers Napoleon's 6 years in exile > and there is a very in-depth description of Longwood throughout. > > Regards, > > Elva > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > www.sagenealogy.co.za - passenger lists, genealogy links,CDs and books > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.2/29 - Release Date: 27/06/2005 > >

Hi Ivy, I have just recently read The Emperor's Last Island - a Journey to St Helena, by Julia Blackburn. This book covers Napoleon's 6 years in exile and there is a very in-depth description of Longwood throughout. Regards, Elva

Thank you, Sharon - just the sort of advice I needed. Go well! Ivy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sharon marshall" <smarshall@absamail.co.za> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] St. Helena > Hi Ivy, > There was quite a bit about it on the St Helena list a while back - not > sure if its an archives, but to join email > st-helena-genealogy@yahoogroups.com with subscribe in the address line - > they're a very helpful group. Details about the gorup can be found on > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/st-helena-genealogy > > Cheers > Sharon

Hi Ivy, There was quite a bit about it on the St Helena list a while back - not sure if its an archives, but to join email st-helena-genealogy@yahoogroups.com with subscribe in the address line - they're a very helpful group. Details about the gorup can be found on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/st-helena-genealogy Cheers Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: Ivy Trott To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 10:28 AM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] St. Helena Does anyone know where I can find out something about the building of Napoleon's home, Longwood, on St. Helena? A friend in Tasmania has found that a local house there was built by a descendent of Sir Hudson Lowe, who was there with Napoleon, as an almost exact replica of Longwood. We find this intriguing, and want to know more about how the Tasmanian house came to be built, and why. I thought the building of Longwood on St. Helena would be interesting also. Go well! Ivy Trott. ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Coming up trumps as always, Heather! Good start for me here. Thank you. Ivy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather MacAlister - LearningOnline" <Heather@learningonline.co.za> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] St. Helena > > > > Hello Ivy > > Found this web site: > http://www.napoleon-series.org/ins/weider/c_helena.html > > Interesting info on Longwood > >

Hello Ivy Found this web site: http://www.napoleon-series.org/ins/weider/c_helena.html Interesting info on Longwood My Pilgrimage to St. Helena In 1975, it was a very frustrating experience to obtain reservations to visit St. Helena. There is no airport, so I could not fly in, there are no passenger ships visiting St. Helena, so I could not reserve a place on such a ship, and helicopters cannot fly that far. The closest land to St. Helena is Angola, on the African coast. It is about 1,500 miles away. I was frustrated about my inability to reserve passage to St. Helena, and by chance I met with the Vice President of a shipping line that travels between Southampton, in England, to Cape Town, in South Africa. Through him I was able to reserve four places onboard the freighter "The GoodHope Castle." Napoleon onboard the Bellerophon, on his way to England I was seeking five places which would include my wife, my three sons and myself. It was to be a family pilgrimage. However, I was unable to reserve 5 places, because only 4 were available, therefore, my wife had to stay in Cape Town waiting for us to return after this historical trip to St. Helena. I was very determined to go to St. Helena, because it would put me in the emotional mood to write my book entitled, The Murder of Napoleon. I felt I needed to immerse myself in the atmosphere of the place where the Emperor lived his last days. I was following the example of the English officer, who holding his young son by the hand on the 6th of May 1821, in the death room of Longwood House said: "Look my son, this was the greatest man in the world." Upon orders of the British Government, on August 7th, 1815, Napoleon leaves the Bellerophon to embark on the Nothumberland which will bring him to St. Helena. Finally, we flew to Cape Town and boarded the S.S. GoodHope Castle and we were on our way to St. Helena. This trip took four days. During the first two days, the seas were quite rough, and even the cows and horses that were onboard were seasick. The next two days were quite warm and sunny. Several hours before docking, I received a message from the radio room informing me that someone wanted to talk to me. For a moment, I thought my office was contacting me about a particular problem, but imagine my surprise when my friend and colleague, Mr. Gilbert Martineau, the Consul General of France on the island and a world-renowned Napoleonic historian, greeted me and informed me that I would be in St. Helena in a few hours and that he was waiting for me. Longwood House (Watercolor painting of Louis Marchand) this watercolor painting was offered to the Emperor on the 1st of January 1820. On the right we notice Vignali and Buonavita walking in the garden where 2 Chinese men worked. On the lefthand side is Mrs. Bertrand with her children. Napoleon is standing at the entrance of the veranda. I then went up to the deck and together with my three sons, we looked out towards the horizon because we wanted to see the island as early as possible. Around midnight, I suddenly noticed a red light which was situated on the highest mountain peak of St. Helena, it was flush with the horizon. As I was staring at it, slowly but surely, I noticed the red light raising higher and higher above the horizon, and then I noticed a mass of land forming below it. We could eventually make out the lights of a small town, I knew immediately it was Jamestown, the only town on the island. Since St. Helena does not have docking facilities, we had to drop anchor off the island. When I first saw the island, a wave of sadness overcame me when I thought of what Napoleon must have felt when he saw the island for the first time and knew that he would spend the rest of his life here. He said to the grand Marshal Bertrand, "Better, we should have stayed in Egypt". While I was deep in these thoughts, a launch pulled up to the freighter, and I noticed it was my friend, Gilbert Martineau. He came on board, we shook hands, and he warmly welcomed me and my sons to St. Helena. After disembarking, we noticed there were about 150 people waiting They were just curious to see who was arriving. The arrival of the boat, represented a major event in their lives. The main street in Jamestown is called Napoleon Street and at the very beginning of the street there used to be a building called "Porteous House", where the Emperor spent his first night on St. Helena. He hated the place because it had large windows and people were able to look right into his room. This house no longer exists. Mr. Martineau drove us in his car to a home which he rented for us. We followed the road from Jamestown to Longwood House, which was approximately 6 miles. As we drove away from Jamestown, up into the mountains, it was interesting to see all the lights of Jamestown. The town is basically several streets and nothing else. The home Mr. Martineau rented for us was situated near Longwood House where Napoleon lived out his exile. This home was very close to the home where the Countess and General Bertrand lived in after they left "Huts Gate" so they could be closer to Napoleon and could respond quickly whenever they were needed. Visit to Longwood House The next morning we met with Mr. Martineau and we went to visit Longwood House. Walking across the park to reach the residence, evoked in us all great emotions. We entered through the rear apartments near by to where Mr. Martineau lived with his elderly mother. As soon as we entered, we noticed the room that Baron Gourgaud lived in and nearby was the room where the Countess and Count de Montholon lived. Longwood House (Watercolor painting of Louis Marchand) this watercolor painting was offered to the Emperor on the 1st of January 1820. On the right we notice Vignali and Buonavita walking in the garden where 2 Chinese men worked. On the lefthand side is Mrs. Bertrand with her children. Napoleon is standing at the entrance of the veranda. Longwood House (Watercolor painting of Louis Marchand) this watercolor painting was offered to the Emperor on the 1st of January 1820. On the right we notice Vignali and Buonavita walking in the garden where 2 Chinese men worked. On the lefthand side is Mrs. Bertrand with her children. Napoleon is standing at the entrance of the veranda. Right off this room, is where Dr. Barry O'Meara, and later Dr. Antomarchi ,stayed while attending to the Emperor. I have letters, in my collection that Dr. O'Meara wrote in this room. After looking through these apartments, Mr. Martineau took us outside and we went around to the front and he said, "Now, I will show you the different rooms that the Emperor used." Our emotions were so intense that it was difficult to describe. As we approached Longwood House from the front, I noticed that nothing had changed. The appearance of the house was exactly as it was in Napoleon's day. Actually, I had read most of the autobiographies of the companions that shared the exile with Napoleon so I knew very well what happened in each room. Longwood House at Napoleon's time Entering the main door, you come into the billiard room. This is where General Bertrand or the Count de Montholon received visitors, before presenting them to Napoleon. Here he dictated "The Campaign of Egypt" and numerous other works and maps spread out on the billard table. On the right are windows with shutters. A circular hole, which was about two inches in diameter, was cut in the shutters. These shutters were closed when Napoleon was in this room and he used to look out of this opening to see if British guards were around the home. If they were, he did not leave. In the same room is the original wooden circular map of the world. On the 6th of May 1821 the post-mortem was also carried out in this room by his personal surgeon, Dr. F. Antomarchi, and in the presence of several British doctors and various government representatives. Then, we went into the drawing room, known as "Le Salon" where Napoleon, standing by the fireplace, his hat in his hand, would receive his official guests, often Count Las Cases acted as the interpreter. It was also in this room where Napoleon and the companions of the exile met before going into the dining room. After dinner, they would again meet here to talk about events, play checkers and have an after-dinner drink. On the right, are two large sets of windows and it was between these windows where the Emperor died on the 5th of May 1821. A plaque was placed on the floor showing where his bed was. Ben Weider and his sons in 1975, seated on the steps of the entrance of Longwood House in St. Helena. Louis - on the top right, Eric - on the bottom left and Mark - on the bottom right. Note the small tree that they planted near the Tomb. Today it must be a large tree. Knowing the history of this house, I was able to visualize the many events that happened here. It was Consul General Martineau who worked diligently to restore everything in Longwood House and made sure its original character was maintained. The room directly to the left was the "dining room". where he often dictated. Here, after the autopsy, his body was laid out awaiting the funeral. In this room, the Abbé Vignali conducted his prayer while the companions looked on with great sadness. His Army bed was moved back into this room. Here the doctors, under the leadership of Antomarchi, made the famous death mask, and Napoleon's body was placed into 4 coffins, one inside the other. At the extreme right of this room was Napoleon's bathroom. It still contains the original copper bathtub where Napoleon took long baths in hot water. At times, even when the weather was nice and warm, Napoleon suffered from severe chills and therefore taking long baths would give him some relief. He would stay in his bath for hours. He often read while in the bath and sometimes dictated to one of the companions. Chills is one of the side effects of arsenical intoxication. This original bathtub was taken to France and then returned to St. Helena in 1840, when some of the companions, headed by the Prince de Joinville, returned this bath tub back to its original place. At the opposite side of the house, the very small room where Napoleon dictated his last Will is situated. This original Will is now in the French archives, but was kept in England at the Court of Canterbury until March 1853 when it was returned to France. Visiting the dining room also evoked memories and deep emotions. I can visualize Napoleon sitting at this original dining table where he ate regularly with the Count and Countess de Montholon, Baron Gourgaud and Las Cases as well as Marshall Bertrand. They were served by two valets, Ali and Noverraz. After the departure of Las Cases, Baron Gourgaud and the Countess de Montholon, and Napoleon often ate in his room or in the garden. Napoleon gardening at St-Helena. We then visited the gardens that were built around Longwood by Napoleon himself, as well as some of his companions in exile. It was in 1819 that Dr. Barry O'Meara urged and encouraged Napoleon to work in the newly proposed garden because he felt that Napoleon needed to exercise. The trenches of the garden still exist today, as well as the water basin. Napoleon told Count de La Cases "one day, perhaps a hundred years from now, people will visit this area and admire our garden." He was off by some years, because over 150 years later, my sons and I visited the gardens as Napoleon predicted, and we did admire the work done there. Visiting Longwood House and its various rooms left us emotionally exhausted. We returned to our home to discuss the day's experience. Ben Weider planting a tree at Napoleon's tomb. At left is the late Gilbert Martineau, Consul of France at St. Helena. Today, this tree is healthy and 10 meters high. The Geranium Valley Two days later, we went through another emotional experience when we visited the Valley of the Tomb, better known as "Geranium Valley". Napoleon died on the 5th of May 1821, the funeral services were conducted by the Abbé Vignali and held on the 9th of May. The English soldiers of the 20th Regiment, all 3,000 of them, lined the route as Napoleon's funeral procession passed by. Twenty-four soldiers carried the coffin down the narrow path that led to Geranium Valley where his burial place was already prepared. Napoleon selected this place himself, as he found it peaceful. There was a brook whose water Napoleon enjoyed and every day, water from this brook was brought to Longwood House for his use. A metal fence surrounded the burial area and a large cement slab covered most of the burial area. The companions wanted to inscribe "Napoleon" on the slab of cement but Sir Hudson Lowe, the British Governor, refused. He insisted that they inscribe "Bonaparte" instead. Since they couldn't agree, the slab of cement was left without a name for 19 years. Mr. Gilbert Martineau gave my sons and me the pleasure and honor of planting a tree near the tomb. Today, it must be a huge tree. It was near this place that the Prince de Joinville, the son of Louis Philippe, with some of the companions of the exile, opened the tomb in order to identify the Emperor before the returning of the body to France. Imagine their surprise when the tomb was opened to identify Napoleon, he was in a perfect state of preservation, Napoleon laid there as if he were asleep. They did not know, at the time, that the arsenic he was fed over the years caused the preservation of his body. Whereas, arsenic could kill, it could also preserve tissue. In 1854, at the time of the great friendship between Napoleon III and Queen Victoria, the land around Longwood House, and the tomb area was purchased by France for 7,100 English pounds and is now considered a Consulate so the area is protected politically. Visit to the Briars The only time that Napoleon was happy on the island was during his stay at the Briars. This was the teahouse that belonged to the Balcombe family, and where Napoleon lived during the first two months he was on the island while Longwood House was being repaired and put into reasonable condition for Napoleon to use. Every effort was made to remove the hordes of huge rats that infested the grounds. William Balcombe, a local businessman, offered to have Napoleon and his companions stay in the main house and suggested that he, his wife and his two daughters would move into the teahouse. Napoleon insisted that he did not want to displace them and thanked them for their generosity in allowing him to use the Briars. The tea-house today is exactly as it was during the time that Napoleon lived there. Dame Mabel Brooks, a direct descendant of the Balcombe family, donated the house and land around it to the French Government in 1959. Napoleon and Betsy Balcombe. During his first month of his stay at St. Helena, Napoleon was lodged at the Briars, a small teahouse which was part of the Balcombe Estate. Very quickly, Napoleon became friends with the 14 year old Betsy During his stay at the Briars, Napoleon became friendly with Balcombe's youngest daughter. Young Betsy, aged fourteen, was a real tom-boy who spoke some French. She constantly teased Napoleon and they soon became good friends. Through this friendship, her name became associated with Napoleon and she became a world-famous celebrity when she returned home to England. Years later, Napoleon III gave her a property of several dozens of acres in Algeria. When Longwood House was ready to be occupied, Napoleon was getting ready to leave the Briars. Betsy cried uncontrollably and Napoleon tried to console her. He took out his personal hanky and wiped her eyes and told her to keep this hanky as a souvenir of their friendship. He then had Santini cut a lock of his hair and give it to her. This lock of hair was tested at the Harwell Nuclear Research Laboratory, and the result showed extremely high levels of arsenic. William Balcombe always felt that Napoleon was poisoned and this story was handed down in his family to the present generation. Napoleon, during this period at the Brairs, was feeling in good health and spirits. Visit to Plantation House I also received an invitation from the Governor of the island, Sir Tom Oates, to have dinner at Plantation House. This is the same house where Sir Hudson Lowe, the Governor of the island during Napoleon's exile lived. I was able to visit the various rooms and office where Sir Hudson Lowe wrote his numerous dispatches about Napoleon to the British government. St. Helena Island Driving around the island, I noticed a great contrast in scenery. In some areas it was like a desert, whereas other areas were green. Actually, nothing much is grown on the island, except flax. While visiting the island, I was amazed to see a cemetery where numerous Zulus were buried. They were exiled to St. Helena after the war between the Zulus and England. The Zulu Chief is also buried there. The population of St. Helena is now approximately 5,000 people and is made up of the descendants of slaves that were brought in from Madagascar and Malaysia. They are extremely friendly and warm. Heather MacAlister Web Site Manager for: www.familytree.co.za + www.ancestry.mweb.co.za E-Centre 46 Hof Street Gardens 8001 Cape Town SOUTH AFRICA Tel: +27-21-481-8316 Fax: +27-21-481-8333 -----Original Message----- From: Ivy Trott [mailto:ivytrott@telkomsa.net] Sent: 27 June 2005 10:29 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] St. Helena Does anyone know where I can find out something about the building of Napoleon's home, Longwood, on St. Helena? A friend in Tasmania has found that a local house there was built by a descendent of Sir Hudson Lowe, who was there with Napoleon, as an almost exact replica of Longwood. We find this intriguing, and want to know more about how the Tasmanian house came to be built, and why. I thought the building of Longwood on St. Helena would be interesting also. Go well! Ivy Trott. ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Does anyone know where I can find out something about the building of Napoleon's home, Longwood, on St. Helena? A friend in Tasmania has found that a local house there was built by a descendent of Sir Hudson Lowe, who was there with Napoleon, as an almost exact replica of Longwood. We find this intriguing, and want to know more about how the Tasmanian house came to be built, and why. I thought the building of Longwood on St. Helena would be interesting also. Go well! Ivy Trott.

Good Afternoon All, I have been trying to find a lead on this Stanley family group. The father should be JR Stanley ? away after the AOB but before 1917 x LHM Groenewald???? Although they lived in Cape Town all their lives. When he arrive in the Cape is also not know. They had 7 or 8 children. Unsure if it 4 Males and 3 Females or the opposite. There is a possibility that one of the daughters did return to England. At least two of the sons were killed in the AOB. Then In Naairs I found a Uncle/brother TT Standley which gave his wife as JW. Uniondale?? His Father was a R Stanley Mother I Stanley Which does not correspond although the children names does. It was mentioned that the father family was hardly debated on. One of this family group has built a house in phases in Hout Bay called Salamander ?? Search result Whaling and a Tin Mine. I have a photo of a part of this house which was totally square and look like stone was used with a small bridge on the corner. Any suggestion? Kind regards Elizabeth

My brother-in-law's mother, IVY PENTECOST, was the daughter of a man who came out from Devon to work on the railways, Pat. Hope that you are keeping well. Certainly you are still pegging away at those brick walls.... Ivy Trott. ----- Original Message ----- From: "patfryk" <patfryk@clear.net.nz> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Roll Call > My Cape Town roll call > > JACKSON 1870-present. > GOODISON 1826 to present > BARRY 1840 to present (this is not the Joseph Barry family but Irish from > Co. Cork) > BUSHNELL 1830 to present (my brickwall) > Anyone connected with the railways 1850-1910 though Goodison especially > Any Mcmenemy or similar in Wellington 1870. > Pat > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > Cape Town Family History Society > www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: 22/06/2005 > >

My Cape Town roll call JACKSON 1870-present. GOODISON 1826 to present BARRY 1840 to present (this is not the Joseph Barry family but Irish from Co. Cork) BUSHNELL 1830 to present (my brickwall) Anyone connected with the railways 1850-1910 though Goodison especially Any Mcmenemy or similar in Wellington 1870. Pat

Evening all Just renewing my surname interests: Researching from Cape Town: Mann - Rondebosch Torbert - Rondebosch Parke - Rondebosch Evans Osborne Martin Jearey Gentz Mathfield Ball Horsley Ingram Woodland Penrith Collier Smorenberg Earp-Jones White Reddell Dawes Murdoch Auber Cressy (or any variants) Pitchford Clementson Scott Kaminsky Slauck Dempster Docke Lofthouse Would love to hear from anyone researching these names kind regards Heather Visit South Africa's premier Genealogy + Family History Web sites : www.familytree.co.za <http://www.familytree.co.za> + www.ancestry.mweb.co.za <http://www.ancestry.mweb.co.za>