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Mark If he was born on board ship, there will be a record in the National Archives at Kew, which will be a better record than the passenger list, though you may need to find him in a passenger list first to establish which ship he was born on and when. The event would have been recorded in the ship's log and was supposed to be reported to the Registrar General of England and Wales, of Scotland, or of Ireland. I quote from the National Archives's website, at < http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=246>: "Births *Registers of births, marriages and deaths of passengers at sea *( BT 158<http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/DisplayCatDetailsGoto.asp?catref=BT+158&accessmethod=6> ) cover births for 1854-1890. *Registers of births at sea on British ships, 1873-1891 *( BT 160<http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/DisplayCatDetailsGoto.asp?catref=BT+160&accessmethod=6> ); these volumes record events reported to the RGSS under Merchant Shipping Act 1854 and Birth and Death Registration Act 1874, and onwardly reported to the General Register Offices for England and Wales, Scotland and Ireland. Those for England include births to foreign nationals. Search digitised images from registers of births, marriages and deaths at sea <http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/> (BT 158<http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/DisplayCatDetailsGoto.asp?catref=BT+158&accessmethod=6> , BT 159<http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/DisplayCatDetailsGoto.asp?catref=BT+159&accessmethod=6> and BT 160<http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/DisplayCatDetailsGoto.asp?catref=BT+160&accessmethod=6> ) online at bmdregisters.co.uk. After 1890 the new series of registers are in the class *Registers and indexes of births, marriages and deaths of* *passengers and seamen at sea * ( BT 334<http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/DisplayCatDetailsGoto.asp?catref=BT+334&accessmethod=6> ). The information given in these registers is as follows: - births: name of ship, official number, port of registry, date of birth, name, sex, name of father, rank or profession or occupation of father, name of mother, maiden surname of mother, father's nationality/birthplace and last place of abode, mother's nationality/birthplace and last place of abode The registers cover the period 1891-1960 and there are indexes arranged both by ships' names and individuals' names. Entries in the indexes in red ink refer to passengers; those in black ink to crew." The online searching facilities for births at sea on findmypast only cover the BT160 records and so stop at 1890; I don't think the post-1890 records (BT334), which are the ones you would be interested in, are searchable online, so it might be necessary to find someone to look in them at Kew for a birth around 1912. Baptisms sometimes took place on board ship too, but I don't know how you would search for them. Hope this helps Geoff On 10 August 2010 08:58, Mark Mann wrote: > > I have been trying for sometime to get passenger lists for arrivals in Cape > Town for March to June 1912. I have found a couple of sites that have > passenger lists for every year but 1912 for some reason. Apparently my > maternal grandfather (George Carmichael) was born on board a ship en route > from the UK (they were Scottish, but may have left from Southampton, > according to someone on Scotfam.com, who said 2 scottish Carmichael ladies > (Mrs. and Miss) left there on 9/3/1912, but could not provide more info). > His date of birth was given to me as 19 May 1912 and seems close, judging > by > his age written onto my mother's birth certificate. > > I'm not 100% certain he was born on the ship, as that info was given to me > verbally by my father, who was gravely ill at the time. Can anybody help > with that type of info? I've tried checking baptisms etc in Cape Town > church records, but no luck so far. I think they were methodists, as that > is how my mother grew up, if that helps. > > I have no idea what George's parents' names were, or if he had siblings, or > where in Scotland they came from, so I think the passenger list is a good > place to find out. > -- Geoff Chew [email protected]

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Mark Do you have an Albert Harry(?) Mann born 27.03.1893, baptized 19.05.1895 in Pietermaritzburg. He was the son of Harry and Susan Mann. It is just that I have just received a photo of a baptismal record and I saw the name Mann. If not, it is irrelevant but it seems a shame not to pass on if relevant. Vivienne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Mann Sent: 10 August 2010 08:58 To: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Ships passenger lists 1912 Hi all, I have been trying for sometime to get passenger lists for arrivals in Cape Town for March to June 1912. I have found a couple of sites that have passenger lists for every year but 1912 for some reason. Apparently my maternal grandfather (George Carmichael) was born on board a ship en route from the UK (they were Scottish, but may have left from Southampton, according to someone on Scotfam.com, who said 2 scottish Carmichael ladies (Mrs. and Miss) left there on 9/3/1912, but could not provide more info). His date of birth was given to me as 19 May 1912 and seems close, judging by his age written onto my mother's birth certificate. I'm not 100% certain he was born on the ship, as that info was given to me verbally by my father, who was gravely ill at the time. Can anybody help with that type of info? I've tried checking baptisms etc in Cape Town church records, but no luck so far. I think they were methodists, as that is how my mother grew up, if that helps. I have no idea what George's parents' names were, or if he had siblings, or where in Scotland they came from, so I think the passenger list is a good place to find out. Any help will be appreciated. Regards, Mark Mann IMPORTANT: Confidentiality: Only the intended recipients are permitted access to this email's content. If any unauthorised person receives it, either in error, or by deliberate forwarding, please delete it from your computer system (including the "deleted items" folder) as unauthorised use of any of its content could be deemed illegal. Disclaimer: Recipients of email should take their own precautions against malicious or mischievous content. We do use up to date anti-virus software in an effort to prevent the spread of such content and we will not be held responsible for any inconvenience or loss caused by anything inadvertently passed on. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3055 - Release Date: 08/06/10 19:35:00

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Hello Jacques If it's any help, I also had a problem logging in quite recently, after some changes to the site. I discovered my original user name was for some reason now invalid, so I tried the "Mary3...."(the mem.no.allocated to me),which comes up when you first go into the site, with my original password, and hey presto, I was in! Could this be your problem? Regards Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jacques Damster Sent: 10 August 2010 16:13 To: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Ancestry24 Hello Heather, I thought I was still member, but apparently my login and password are not recognized anymore!! Did I forgot to pay last year or do I really forgot my password. If I forgot to pay the annual fee I'll do it, but would like to have a confirmation that I Could have access to the full transcripts from the original registers of St. Georges Cathedral by Florence Ann Cilliers. Could you be kind enough to confirm ?? Best regards from Belgium where the south African Damsters come from ! Jacques Damster [email protected] http://home.scarlet.be/damster Ce message sortant est certifi? sans virus connu. Analyse effectu?e par AVG - www.avg.fr Version: 9.0.851 / Base de donn?es virale: 271.1.1/3062 - Date: 08/10/10 08:35:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Many thanks Maurice . Your information is virtually what I have for S Baxter . Cannot find anything for FW who went out earlier Much appreciated Kevin Baxter -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maurice Sheppard Sent: 10 August 2010 15:12 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Ships passenger lists 1912 Hi Kevin, I can't help you with Request No. 1 as my access only covers the years 1890 to 1960. As regards Request No. 2, there's only one direct match on a Samuel, but that's to Cape Town and several of a Mr S. BAXTER, only one of which is to East London. I might add at this point that there are another 30 or so with no forename or initial, so the whole thing depends on whether you can match an age or occupation! Anyway, here's the most likely ones:- Mr Samuel BAXTER - labourer - 25 - single 2 May 1894, London to Cape Town, ss RUAHINE Mr S. BAXTER - draper - 22 - single 1 Feb 1896, Southampton to East London, ss TARTAR Mr S. BAXTER - mason - 28 - single 22 Oct 1900, London to Cape Town, ss SOPHOCLES Mr S. BAXTER - married but travelling alone 11 May 1901, Southampton to Cape Town, ss GAIKA Mr S. BAXTER - police - 24 - single - Scottish 29 Nov 1902, Southampton to Cape Town, ss GASCON Mr S., BAXTER - brass finisher - 29 - single 13 Jun 1903, Southampton to Port Natal, ss GASCON Regards, Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Baxter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Ships passenger lists 1912 > Can anyone help me please ? > > I am looking for ship passenger lists sailing from UK (Southampton or > London) to South Africa (East London or Port Elizabeth) for : > > 1) Frederick William Baxter --- believed to have sailed between 1875 and > 1885 > > 2) Samuel Baxter --- believed to have sailed 1892 - 1902 > > > Assistance greatly appreciated > > Kevin Baxter > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Maurice Sheppard > Sent: 10 August 2010 12:20 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Ships passenger lists 1912 > > Hi Mark, > > Yes, that is correct - there was only one 1912 sailing from the UK to > South > Africa. The details are:- > > ss ARMADALE CASTLE > Sailed from Southampton on 9th March 1912 > Mrs CARMICHAEL - described as "Wife" > Miss CARMICHAEL > Contracted to disembark at Cape Town. > > No sign of any husband and no initials or date of birth. > I've checked the Consular and other births, but no CARMICHAELs, I'm > afraid. > Births At Sea only covers the period from 1854-1887. > > If you like to contact me offlist at:- > > maurice @ msheppard.com (remove the spaces) > > I'll me happy to send you an image of the passenger manifest. > > Regards, > > Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages > http://www.msheppard.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Mann" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:58 AM > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Ships passenger lists 1912 > > >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I have been trying for sometime to get passenger lists for arrivals in > >> Cape >> Town for March to June 1912. I have found a couple of sites that have >> passenger lists for every year but 1912 for some reason. Apparently > my >> maternal grandfather (George Carmichael) was born on board a ship en > route >> from the UK (they were Scottish, but may have left from Southampton, >> according to someone on Scotfam.com, who said 2 scottish Carmichael > ladies >> (Mrs. and Miss) left there on 9/3/1912, but could not provide more > info). >> His date of birth was given to me as 19 May 1912 and seems close, > judging >> by >> his age written onto my mother's birth certificate. >> >> >> >> I'm not 100% certain he was born on the ship, as that info was given > to me >> verbally by my father, who was gravely ill at the time. Can anybody > >> help >> with that type of info? I've tried checking baptisms etc in Cape Town >> church records, but no luck so far. I think they were methodists, as > that >> is how my mother grew up, if that helps. >> >> >> >> I have no idea what George's parents' names were, or if he had > siblings, >> or >> where in Scotland they came from, so I think the passenger list is a > good >> place to find out. >> >> >> >> Any help will be appreciated. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Mark Mann >> >> >> >> IMPORTANT: >> >> Confidentiality: Only the intended recipients are permitted access to > this >> email's content. If any unauthorised person receives it, either in > error, >> or >> by deliberate forwarding, please delete it from your computer system >> (including the "deleted items" folder) as unauthorised use of any of > its >> content could be deemed illegal. >> >> Disclaimer: Recipients of email should take their own precautions > against >> malicious or mischievous content. 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Hi Kevin, I can't help you with Request No. 1 as my access only covers the years 1890 to 1960. As regards Request No. 2, there's only one direct match on a Samuel, but that's to Cape Town and several of a Mr S. BAXTER, only one of which is to East London. I might add at this point that there are another 30 or so with no forename or initial, so the whole thing depends on whether you can match an age or occupation! Anyway, here's the most likely ones:- Mr Samuel BAXTER - labourer - 25 - single 2 May 1894, London to Cape Town, ss RUAHINE Mr S. BAXTER - draper - 22 - single 1 Feb 1896, Southampton to East London, ss TARTAR Mr S. BAXTER - mason - 28 - single 22 Oct 1900, London to Cape Town, ss SOPHOCLES Mr S. BAXTER - married but travelling alone 11 May 1901, Southampton to Cape Town, ss GAIKA Mr S. BAXTER - police - 24 - single - Scottish 29 Nov 1902, Southampton to Cape Town, ss GASCON Mr S., BAXTER - brass finisher - 29 - single 13 Jun 1903, Southampton to Port Natal, ss GASCON Regards, Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Baxter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Ships passenger lists 1912 > Can anyone help me please ? > > I am looking for ship passenger lists sailing from UK (Southampton or > London) to South Africa (East London or Port Elizabeth) for : > > 1) Frederick William Baxter --- believed to have sailed between 1875 and > 1885 > > 2) Samuel Baxter --- believed to have sailed 1892 - 1902 > > > Assistance greatly appreciated > > Kevin Baxter > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Maurice Sheppard > Sent: 10 August 2010 12:20 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Ships passenger lists 1912 > > Hi Mark, > > Yes, that is correct - there was only one 1912 sailing from the UK to > South > Africa. The details are:- > > ss ARMADALE CASTLE > Sailed from Southampton on 9th March 1912 > Mrs CARMICHAEL - described as "Wife" > Miss CARMICHAEL > Contracted to disembark at Cape Town. > > No sign of any husband and no initials or date of birth. > I've checked the Consular and other births, but no CARMICHAELs, I'm > afraid. > Births At Sea only covers the period from 1854-1887. > > If you like to contact me offlist at:- > > maurice @ msheppard.com (remove the spaces) > > I'll me happy to send you an image of the passenger manifest. > > Regards, > > Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages > http://www.msheppard.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Mann" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:58 AM > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Ships passenger lists 1912 > > >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I have been trying for sometime to get passenger lists for arrivals in > >> Cape >> Town for March to June 1912. I have found a couple of sites that have >> passenger lists for every year but 1912 for some reason. Apparently > my >> maternal grandfather (George Carmichael) was born on board a ship en > route >> from the UK (they were Scottish, but may have left from Southampton, >> according to someone on Scotfam.com, who said 2 scottish Carmichael > ladies >> (Mrs. and Miss) left there on 9/3/1912, but could not provide more > info). >> His date of birth was given to me as 19 May 1912 and seems close, > judging >> by >> his age written onto my mother's birth certificate. >> >> >> >> I'm not 100% certain he was born on the ship, as that info was given > to me >> verbally by my father, who was gravely ill at the time. Can anybody > >> help >> with that type of info? I've tried checking baptisms etc in Cape Town >> church records, but no luck so far. I think they were methodists, as > that >> is how my mother grew up, if that helps. >> >> >> >> I have no idea what George's parents' names were, or if he had > siblings, >> or >> where in Scotland they came from, so I think the passenger list is a > good >> place to find out. >> >> >> >> Any help will be appreciated. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Mark Mann >> >> >> >> IMPORTANT: >> >> Confidentiality: Only the intended recipients are permitted access to > this >> email's content. If any unauthorised person receives it, either in > error, >> or >> by deliberate forwarding, please delete it from your computer system >> (including the "deleted items" folder) as unauthorised use of any of > its >> content could be deemed illegal. >> >> Disclaimer: Recipients of email should take their own precautions > against >> malicious or mischievous content. 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You can also buy all 5 books on one CD from Ancestry (fully searchable) http://ancestry24.com/products-page/?category=4&product_id=16 Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Channel Manager E [email protected] T +27 (021) 468 8957 M + 27 (0)82 8082251 F +27 (0)86 5810390 twitter.com/ancestry24 | skype.com/ancestry24 7th Floor , 11 Adderley Street, Cape Town, 8000 | www.ancestry24.co.za -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wiggill M & C Sent: 10 August 2010 02:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] FW: Dictionary of South AfricanBiographies Vol 1-5 Hi Tony [email protected], can assist with a copy of the publication above, with biography on Joseph William Matthews. Carina -----Original Message----- From: Wiggill M & C [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 August 2010 03:34 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Dictionary of South African Biographies Vol 1-5 Tony You could try the following dealers: 1. Select Books, 232 Long Street, Cape Town : David McCellan Email: [email protected] Website: www.selectbooks.co.za 2. Maroela Boeke: Neels Loubser www.maroelaboeke.co.za email: [email protected] Carina -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Proctor Sent: 07 August 2010 03:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Dictionary of South African Biographies Vol 1-5 Hi, Can anybody help please, I'm looking for a copy of the biography on my wife's great uncle namely Joseph William Mathews, curator of Kirstenbosch Botanical Gardens from 1913-1936 and apparently contained in the above publication He went to South Africa circa 1895 as a gardener trained at Kew Gardens London. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards Tony Proctor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tony [email protected], can assist with a copy of the publication above, with biography on Joseph William Matthews. Carina -----Original Message----- From: Wiggill M & C [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 August 2010 03:34 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Dictionary of South African Biographies Vol 1-5 Tony You could try the following dealers: 1. Select Books, 232 Long Street, Cape Town : David McCellan Email: [email protected] Website: www.selectbooks.co.za 2. Maroela Boeke: Neels Loubser www.maroelaboeke.co.za email: [email protected] Carina -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Proctor Sent: 07 August 2010 03:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Dictionary of South African Biographies Vol 1-5 Hi, Can anybody help please, I'm looking for a copy of the biography on my wife's great uncle namely Joseph William Mathews, curator of Kirstenbosch Botanical Gardens from 1913-1936 and apparently contained in the above publication He went to South Africa circa 1895 as a gardener trained at Kew Gardens London. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards Tony Proctor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help me please ? I am looking for ship passenger lists sailing from UK (Southampton or London) to South Africa (East London or Port Elizabeth) for : 1) Frederick William Baxter --- believed to have sailed between 1875 and 1885 2) Samuel Baxter --- believed to have sailed 1892 - 1902 Assistance greatly appreciated Kevin Baxter -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maurice Sheppard Sent: 10 August 2010 12:20 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Ships passenger lists 1912 Hi Mark, Yes, that is correct - there was only one 1912 sailing from the UK to South Africa. The details are:- ss ARMADALE CASTLE Sailed from Southampton on 9th March 1912 Mrs CARMICHAEL - described as "Wife" Miss CARMICHAEL Contracted to disembark at Cape Town. No sign of any husband and no initials or date of birth. I've checked the Consular and other births, but no CARMICHAELs, I'm afraid. Births At Sea only covers the period from 1854-1887. If you like to contact me offlist at:- maurice @ msheppard.com (remove the spaces) I'll me happy to send you an image of the passenger manifest. Regards, Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Mann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:58 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Ships passenger lists 1912 > Hi all, > > > > I have been trying for sometime to get passenger lists for arrivals in > Cape > Town for March to June 1912. I have found a couple of sites that have > passenger lists for every year but 1912 for some reason. Apparently my > maternal grandfather (George Carmichael) was born on board a ship en route > from the UK (they were Scottish, but may have left from Southampton, > according to someone on Scotfam.com, who said 2 scottish Carmichael ladies > (Mrs. and Miss) left there on 9/3/1912, but could not provide more info). > His date of birth was given to me as 19 May 1912 and seems close, judging > by > his age written onto my mother's birth certificate. > > > > I'm not 100% certain he was born on the ship, as that info was given to me > verbally by my father, who was gravely ill at the time. Can anybody > help > with that type of info? I've tried checking baptisms etc in Cape Town > church records, but no luck so far. I think they were methodists, as that > is how my mother grew up, if that helps. > > > > I have no idea what George's parents' names were, or if he had siblings, > or > where in Scotland they came from, so I think the passenger list is a good > place to find out. > > > > Any help will be appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > Mark Mann > > > > IMPORTANT: > > Confidentiality: Only the intended recipients are permitted access to this > email's content. If any unauthorised person receives it, either in error, > or > by deliberate forwarding, please delete it from your computer system > (including the "deleted items" folder) as unauthorised use of any of its > content could be deemed illegal. > > Disclaimer: Recipients of email should take their own precautions against > malicious or mischievous content. We do use up to date anti-virus > software > in an effort to prevent the spread of such content and we will not be held > responsible for any inconvenience or loss caused by anything inadvertently > passed on. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mark, Yes, that is correct - there was only one 1912 sailing from the UK to South Africa. The details are:- ss ARMADALE CASTLE Sailed from Southampton on 9th March 1912 Mrs CARMICHAEL - described as "Wife" Miss CARMICHAEL Contracted to disembark at Cape Town. No sign of any husband and no initials or date of birth. I've checked the Consular and other births, but no CARMICHAELs, I'm afraid. Births At Sea only covers the period from 1854-1887. If you like to contact me offlist at:- maurice @ msheppard.com (remove the spaces) I'll me happy to send you an image of the passenger manifest. Regards, Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Mann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:58 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Ships passenger lists 1912 > Hi all, > > > > I have been trying for sometime to get passenger lists for arrivals in > Cape > Town for March to June 1912. I have found a couple of sites that have > passenger lists for every year but 1912 for some reason. Apparently my > maternal grandfather (George Carmichael) was born on board a ship en route > from the UK (they were Scottish, but may have left from Southampton, > according to someone on Scotfam.com, who said 2 scottish Carmichael ladies > (Mrs. and Miss) left there on 9/3/1912, but could not provide more info). > His date of birth was given to me as 19 May 1912 and seems close, judging > by > his age written onto my mother's birth certificate. > > > > I'm not 100% certain he was born on the ship, as that info was given to me > verbally by my father, who was gravely ill at the time. Can anybody > help > with that type of info? I've tried checking baptisms etc in Cape Town > church records, but no luck so far. I think they were methodists, as that > is how my mother grew up, if that helps. > > > > I have no idea what George's parents' names were, or if he had siblings, > or > where in Scotland they came from, so I think the passenger list is a good > place to find out. > > > > Any help will be appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > Mark Mann > > > > IMPORTANT: > > Confidentiality: Only the intended recipients are permitted access to this > email's content. If any unauthorised person receives it, either in error, > or > by deliberate forwarding, please delete it from your computer system > (including the "deleted items" folder) as unauthorised use of any of its > content could be deemed illegal. > > Disclaimer: Recipients of email should take their own precautions against > malicious or mischievous content. We do use up to date anti-virus > software > in an effort to prevent the spread of such content and we will not be held > responsible for any inconvenience or loss caused by anything inadvertently > passed on. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, I have been trying for sometime to get passenger lists for arrivals in Cape Town for March to June 1912. I have found a couple of sites that have passenger lists for every year but 1912 for some reason. Apparently my maternal grandfather (George Carmichael) was born on board a ship en route from the UK (they were Scottish, but may have left from Southampton, according to someone on Scotfam.com, who said 2 scottish Carmichael ladies (Mrs. and Miss) left there on 9/3/1912, but could not provide more info). His date of birth was given to me as 19 May 1912 and seems close, judging by his age written onto my mother's birth certificate. I'm not 100% certain he was born on the ship, as that info was given to me verbally by my father, who was gravely ill at the time. Can anybody help with that type of info? I've tried checking baptisms etc in Cape Town church records, but no luck so far. I think they were methodists, as that is how my mother grew up, if that helps. I have no idea what George's parents' names were, or if he had siblings, or where in Scotland they came from, so I think the passenger list is a good place to find out. Any help will be appreciated. Regards, Mark Mann IMPORTANT: Confidentiality: Only the intended recipients are permitted access to this email's content. If any unauthorised person receives it, either in error, or by deliberate forwarding, please delete it from your computer system (including the "deleted items" folder) as unauthorised use of any of its content could be deemed illegal. Disclaimer: Recipients of email should take their own precautions against malicious or mischievous content. We do use up to date anti-virus software in an effort to prevent the spread of such content and we will not be held responsible for any inconvenience or loss caused by anything inadvertently passed on.

Hi Neville, They would be GREAT! Have you perhaps a contact name and number please. Regards, Colin Mohr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neville Rasmussen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Map of Cape Town > Hi all > > This may not help much but the Trignometrical Survey Office in Mowbray, > Cape Town sells penisula maps as a set of 4 and is very detailed. the cost > is around R20 each (i.e. R80 for the set). They are reprints of the > original > 1:25 000 000 maps produced around 70 years ago. > > Neville > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Map of Cape Town > > > Hi everyone, > > I would also be interested in a map of Cape Town during the later part of > 1800. > > > Helen > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Gwen Doyle <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, 7 August, 2010 10:43:17 > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Map of Cape Town > > Hi, > Make that another who is interested in a map of Cape Town. I would love to > see the streets around 1855 as I have a Thomas Lock who owned a few houses > down Outspan Street and a place called Villa Allona. > Gwen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sylvia tea" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:31 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Map of Cape Town > > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'm interested in any map if one exists ! >> >> Sylvia >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all This may not help much but the Trignometrical Survey Office in Mowbray, Cape Town sells penisula maps as a set of 4 and is very detailed. the cost is around R20 each (i.e. R80 for the set). They are reprints of the original 1:25 000 000 maps produced around 70 years ago. Neville Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Map of Cape Town Hi everyone, I would also be interested in a map of Cape Town during the later part of 1800. Helen ________________________________ From: Gwen Doyle <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 7 August, 2010 10:43:17 Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Map of Cape Town Hi, Make that another who is interested in a map of Cape Town. I would love to see the streets around 1855 as I have a Thomas Lock who owned a few houses down Outspan Street and a place called Villa Allona. Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia tea" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Map of Cape Town > > Hi all, > > I'm interested in any map if one exists ! > > Sylvia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Neville! This is invaluable information as I don't think that many people would be able to pass on these details. Vivienne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Neville Rasmussen Sent: 09 August 2010 13:50 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Map of Cape Town Hi all This may not help much but the Trignometrical Survey Office in Mowbray, Cape Town sells penisula maps as a set of 4 and is very detailed. the cost is around R20 each (i.e. R80 for the set). They are reprints of the original 1:25 000 000 maps produced around 70 years ago. Neville Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Map of Cape Town Hi everyone, I would also be interested in a map of Cape Town during the later part of 1800. Helen ________________________________ From: Gwen Doyle <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 7 August, 2010 10:43:17 Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Map of Cape Town Hi, Make that another who is interested in a map of Cape Town. I would love to see the streets around 1855 as I have a Thomas Lock who owned a few houses down Outspan Street and a place called Villa Allona. Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia tea" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Map of Cape Town > > Hi all, > > I'm interested in any map if one exists ! > > Sylvia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3055 - Release Date: 08/06/10 19:35:00