Jennifer and Graham, I have given your address and phone number to a genealogical guru here in New Zealand (lives in Auckland) She has a client who wants to know something about an ancestor in Cape Town. She lives here but is stopping over in Cape Town on a trip to UK and wants to meet a researcher. The genealogist is Jan Gow +64 9 5211518. Don't know the name of the woman. She is leaving here at the end of this month. I am phoning Jan now to give her your names etc. Go well my dears Patricia Frykberg -------------------------------------------------- From: "Graham and Jennifer Lloyd" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:57 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Frews > Their number is 0217124154 > Good luck > Cheers > > Graham & Jennifer Lloyd > [Genealogical & Historical Research] > 2 Constantia Court > River's End Road > Plumstead 7800 > Cape Town > South Africa > Tel: +0027 (0)21 7974875 > Mobile: 0824037343 > email: [email protected] > http://southafricanfamily.com > > I'm not stuck, I'm Ancestrally challenged > > Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass > It's about learning to dance in the rain > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "robert frew" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:24 AM > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Frews > > >> Would like information on any Frews that migrated to South Africa in the >> 1860s from Ireland. >> I understand that 3 brothers left Ireland Alexander,John and William. >> John and William then migrated to New Zealand but Alexander stayed on in >> South Africa. >> Recently i learnt a relative of mine had toured South Africa during 1976 >> All >> Black tour and had made contact with descendants of this line. His >> daughter >> Elaine was writing to Lynne Frew 24 Childrens Way Bergvliet after this >> time >> but lost contact. I believe she was a nurse. >> Contact from any Frews would be appreciated. >> >> >> Rob >> Frew. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.14/2433 - Release Date: 10/13/09 > 13:25:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hoping that some kind person may be able to find more details on the South African family side of our Scotland Family Tree based here in New Zealand hoping for a lucky answer. Susan Isabella Manuel. Married to Gibbs then she remarried, Fryer. Born 1868 then Died 21 August 1931 Married to Gibbs then she remarried a Fryer Her sister, Sarah Mary Ann Manuel Born 7 February 1879 then Died 4-April 1959 in Prince Albert Married to a Malan Regards, Barry Hornell ========================================================== For more information on the Television New Zealand Group, visit us online at tvnz.co.nz ========================================================== CAUTION: This e-mail and any attachment(s) contain information that is intended to be read only by the named recipient(s). This information is not to be used or stored by any other person and/or organisation.

Dear Barry I'm going to e-mail you a few scans form the Malan register of Hercules Malan and others re the Malan connection. Kind regards Daniel MALAN (!) Jacobs www.gendata.co.za Ps. My greatgreatgrandmother was Anna Aletta Malan (born ca 1846) and the Afrikaner's tradition of giving the mother's surname as a name for a boy originated with the Scottish. On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Barry Hornell <[email protected]>wrote: > Hoping that some kind person may be able to find more details on the > South African family side of our Scotland Family Tree based here in New > Zealand hoping for a lucky answer. > > > > Susan Isabella Manuel. Married to Gibbs then she remarried, Fryer. > > Born 1868 then Died 21 August 1931 > > Married to Gibbs then she remarried a Fryer > > > > Her sister, Sarah Mary Ann Manuel > > Born 7 February 1879 then Died 4-April 1959 in Prince Albert > > Married to a Malan > > Regards, > > Barry Hornell > > > > ========================================================== > For more information on the Television New Zealand Group, visit us > online at tvnz.co.nz > ========================================================== > CAUTION: This e-mail and any attachment(s) contain information that > is intended to be read only by the named recipient(s). This information > is not to be used or stored by any other person and/or organisation. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- www.gendata.co.za Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington)

My condolences to the Smith and Kenyon family on the sad loss of Jenny. xx Storm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coral Anna Foster" <[email protected]> To: "south africa" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Death of Jenny Kenyon > > My condolences to her family & her friends. > much love, > Coral Anna > > > > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 18:19:52 +0100 >> CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected] >> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Death of Jenny Kenyon >> >> Hi Listers, >> It's my sad duty to notify you all of the death of one of us, Jenny >> Kenyon on the 14th October 2010 in South Africa. The delay has been due >> to my wating for permission from the family to pass on this information. >> Jenny's full maiden name was Jennifer Berry SMITH born on the 7th >> December 1948 in King William's Town, Cape Province, Union of South >> Africa. Her parents were Robert Berry SMITH and Stephanie LLOYD who was >> born on the 5th November 1926 in the Cape Province. Stephanie's parents >> were John Ishmael LLOYD born 7th October 1894 in the Cape died 1 >> September 1969 at King William's Town. He and his wife were married about >> Sept 1922.and her mother Dorothy May DICKS who incredibly lived until she >> was over 100 years old was born on the 13th March 1898 and died 20th >> October 1998 in Atlasville. John Ishmael LLOYD'S parents Oliver Ishmael >> LLOYD and Catherine 'Kate' CORY were my grandmother's uncle and aunt and >> sponsors at her christening. Oliver was born on the 18th September 1894 >> at East London and died 18th September 1933 at Hopewell Farm, East >> London. Kate Cory was born on the 15th April 187O in the Eastern Cape and >> died on the 16th October 1953. >> Best wishes, >> Tombi Peck >> Oliver's parents were John LLOYD and Mary Ann PIRIE and Kate's parents >> were John Newhouse CORY & Christine Sophia Leticia (aletta) COETZER. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My condolences to her family & her friends. much love, Coral Anna > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 18:19:52 +0100 > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Death of Jenny Kenyon > > Hi Listers, > It's my sad duty to notify you all of the death of one of us, Jenny Kenyon on the 14th October 2010 in South Africa. The delay has been due to my wating for permission from the family to pass on this information. > Jenny's full maiden name was Jennifer Berry SMITH born on the 7th December 1948 in King William's Town, Cape Province, Union of South Africa. Her parents were Robert Berry SMITH and Stephanie LLOYD who was born on the 5th November 1926 in the Cape Province. Stephanie's parents were John Ishmael LLOYD born 7th October 1894 in the Cape died 1 September 1969 at King William's Town. He and his wife were married about Sept 1922.and her mother Dorothy May DICKS who incredibly lived until she was over 100 years old was born on the 13th March 1898 and died 20th October 1998 in Atlasville. John Ishmael LLOYD'S parents Oliver Ishmael LLOYD and Catherine 'Kate' CORY were my grandmother's uncle and aunt and sponsors at her christening. Oliver was born on the 18th September 1894 at East London and died 18th September 1933 at Hopewell Farm, East London. Kate Cory was born on the 15th April 187O in the Eastern Cape and died on the 16th October 1953. > Best wishes, > Tombi Peck > Oliver's parents were John LLOYD and Mary Ann PIRIE and Kate's parents were John Newhouse CORY & Christine Sophia Leticia (aletta) COETZER. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, It's my sad duty to notify you all of the death of one of us, Jenny Kenyon on the 14th October 2010 in South Africa. The delay has been due to my wating for permission from the family to pass on this information. Jenny's full maiden name was Jennifer Berry SMITH born on the 7th December 1948 in King William's Town, Cape Province, Union of South Africa. Her parents were Robert Berry SMITH and Stephanie LLOYD who was born on the 5th November 1926 in the Cape Province. Stephanie's parents were John Ishmael LLOYD born 7th October 1894 in the Cape died 1 September 1969 at King William's Town. He and his wife were married about Sept 1922.and her mother Dorothy May DICKS who incredibly lived until she was over 100 years old was born on the 13th March 1898 and died 20th October 1998 in Atlasville. John Ishmael LLOYD'S parents Oliver Ishmael LLOYD and Catherine 'Kate' CORY were my grandmother's uncle and aunt and sponsors at her christening. Oliver was born on the 18th September 1894 at East London and died 18th September 1933 at Hopewell Farm, East London. Kate Cory was born on the 15th April 187O in the Eastern Cape and died on the 16th October 1953. Best wishes, Tombi Peck Oliver's parents were John LLOYD and Mary Ann PIRIE and Kate's parents were John Newhouse CORY & Christine Sophia Leticia (aletta) COETZER.

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Hi There all, I'm looking for details of three ladies. a Mrs Helena Higgens I don't know when she was born but She was married to my Great Grandfather that arrived in the late 1890's in South Africa From Holland. Jacob Peper. She was buried on the 25 July 1925. If anyone can help locate for me birth and family details. This is all I have of her. The other two ladies died shortly after each other in Cape town. Rose Visser and Clara Visser Mother and Daughter. I suspect that Rose and Helena Higgens were sister? Please could anyone help me. Kind Regards [email protected]

Dear Deborah, Thank you for your reply. My great grandmothers family came from Hull in England. I do not know how many generations back !! I am trying to work backwards with the TURNER family to find a connection with the ealier Turner names in the CAPE before I take my search back to the HULL area here in the U.K. I am just curious about the 86th regiment in general. I know the 83rd regiment was stationed at the Cape of Good Hope. As his wife was with him I assume he was ex army or did wives accompany army men in those days? Regards sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hubbard, Deborah" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:51 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Sharon and the 86th > This message (and attachments) is subject to restrictions and a > disclaimer. Please refer to http://www.unisa.ac.za/disclaimer for full > details. > ________________________________ > > Sharon, it's possible that little George Henry's father the serjeant was > on his way to India in 1819: Simonstown was a routine stopover, and of > course a useful spot in which to baptise anyone born at sea. So perhaps > you might get somewhere if you look for some Turners further East? > > Good luck, and keep us informed if you find something good. > > Deborah Hubbard > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found that my father, Herbert William Anderson, aged 8, was enrolled at Rondebosch Boys High School on 7th April 1913 but l have not managed to find any information about his parents - William Edward Anderson and Lilian Beatrice Anderson. However, I do know that his uncle, William George Walker and wife Mary Walker with daughter Lilian Flora Walker and William's mother also Mary Walker arrived in CapeTown from England in 1911. Can anyone help with any information on these 2 families. Thanks Lynn Anderson Sydney, Australia. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2301 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

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Hi Heather I already found that I was hoping someone had more info :) Storm This message is private and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete the said message. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather MacAlister - Ancestry 24" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 5:43 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] EXTER family Cape Town > Hi Storm > > Is this what you are looking for? > > > Johann Heinrich Exter van Zweibrucken * 1764 a. 1787 as soldaat, > geneesheer in die Wurtembergse Regiment, bedank 1791, verkry burgerregte t > 15.3.1798 x Kaapstad 3.5.1789 Sophia Catharina MATTIESSEN > bl Elizabeth Geertruyda Lodewika = 28.9.1790 x Lutherse kerk 29.10.1809 > J.A. WAHL. > b2 Heinrich Gabriel = 9.12.1792 x NN > cl Gabriel Hendrik x Kaapstad 26.6.1843 Rosa DAWIDSE > dl Hendrika Christina * 14.6.1841 = Kaapstad 24.9.1843 > d2 Sophia Maria * 17.8.1843 Kaapstad 24.9.1843 x Rudolph Johannes CLOETE: > (Adriaan-sn) > c? Sophia Dorothea * c. 1823 x Kaapstad 11.11.1850 Edward 'I'ILLEY ? > > Johann Gabriel Exter * Zweibrucken 11.6.1744 s.v. Heinrich E. Exter, > stadsklerk van Zweibrucken a. 1780 as assistent-klerk, adjunk-fiskaal in > 1785, boekhouer 1786 en interim-fiskaal 1787-1788, adjunk-fiskaal vanaf > 1789 stref 8.8.1798 x 27.1.1788 Lu-dowika Jacoba STAAKMAN van Vlissingen > d.v. Jan Isaak Staakman van Venlo, majoor van Regiment Wurtemberg > bl Anna Catharina Elizabeth = 28.12.1788 > b2 Izaak Gabriel = Kaapsrad 24.2.1791 > regards > Heather > > > Heather MacAlister > Channel Manager > > Tel:021 468 8957 > Fax:+27 (0)86 581 0390 > www.ancestry24.co.za > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ancestry24 > Skype: Ancestry24 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] on behalf of Storm > O'Neill > Sent: Fri 15/10/2010 11:48 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] EXTER family Cape Town > > I am trying to find out any info on the Exter family. My great > grandfather is Henry Gabriel Cloete who married Hester Aletta Meyer but > recently through my search I have come across documents suggesting he was > Hendrik / Henry Gabriel Exter not to mention that we cant seem to find any > documentation on who his Cloete parents were. Any one have any info on > the Exter family around 1880. He also had 2 sisters. Elizabeth and Rose > yet we cannot trace them under the Cloete surname either. > > Storm > > This message is private and confidential. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the sender and delete the said message. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Storm Is this what you are looking for? Johann Heinrich Exter van Zweibrucken * 1764 a. 1787 as soldaat, geneesheer in die Wurtembergse Regiment, bedank 1791, verkry burgerregte t 15.3.1798 x Kaapstad 3.5.1789 Sophia Catharina MATTIESSEN bl Elizabeth Geertruyda Lodewika = 28.9.1790 x Lutherse kerk 29.10.1809 J.A. WAHL. b2 Heinrich Gabriel = 9.12.1792 x NN cl Gabriel Hendrik x Kaapstad 26.6.1843 Rosa DAWIDSE dl Hendrika Christina * 14.6.1841 = Kaapstad 24.9.1843 d2 Sophia Maria * 17.8.1843 Kaapstad 24.9.1843 x Rudolph Johannes CLOETE: (Adriaan-sn) c? Sophia Dorothea * c. 1823 x Kaapstad 11.11.1850 Edward 'I'ILLEY ? Johann Gabriel Exter * Zweibrucken 11.6.1744 s.v. Heinrich E. Exter, stadsklerk van Zweibrucken a. 1780 as assistent-klerk, adjunk-fiskaal in 1785, boekhouer 1786 en interim-fiskaal 1787-1788, adjunk-fiskaal vanaf 1789 stref 8.8.1798 x 27.1.1788 Lu-dowika Jacoba STAAKMAN van Vlissingen d.v. Jan Isaak Staakman van Venlo, majoor van Regiment Wurtemberg bl Anna Catharina Elizabeth = 28.12.1788 b2 Izaak Gabriel = Kaapsrad 24.2.1791 regards Heather Heather MacAlister Channel Manager Tel:021 468 8957 Fax:+27 (0)86 581 0390 www.ancestry24.co.za Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ancestry24 Skype: Ancestry24 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] on behalf of Storm O'Neill Sent: Fri 15/10/2010 11:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] EXTER family Cape Town I am trying to find out any info on the Exter family. My great grandfather is Henry Gabriel Cloete who married Hester Aletta Meyer but recently through my search I have come across documents suggesting he was Hendrik / Henry Gabriel Exter not to mention that we cant seem to find any documentation on who his Cloete parents were. Any one have any info on the Exter family around 1880. He also had 2 sisters. Elizabeth and Rose yet we cannot trace them under the Cloete surname either. Storm This message is private and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete the said message. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to find out any info on the Exter family. My great grandfather is Henry Gabriel Cloete who married Hester Aletta Meyer but recently through my search I have come across documents suggesting he was Hendrik / Henry Gabriel Exter not to mention that we cant seem to find any documentation on who his Cloete parents were. Any one have any info on the Exter family around 1880. He also had 2 sisters. Elizabeth and Rose yet we cannot trace them under the Cloete surname either. Storm This message is private and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete the said message.

Guten Tag Carol Anna, Wie gehtes Ihnen? Ich weis nicht wo in Suidafrica mein Oupa gekommen nicht. Auch nicht wo in Europa. Das is frustriert! But currently I am trying to get more information from our National Archives as well as from the Masters of the High Court (re Estate Documentation). Thank you for your answer and query, Kind regards, Mfg, Walter Renze -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 15 October 2010 09:01 To: [email protected] Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 205 Today's Topics: 1. Question (Renze, Walter) 2. Re: Question (Coral Anna Foster) 3. Re: Question (Betty Timm) 4. Re: PEARCE and GLAUM (Denise Igesund) 5. FW: Question (Betty Timm) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:11:30 +0200 From: "Renze, Walter" <[email protected]> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]wg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear All, Where can I find out what ship my great-grandparents came on to SA? My surname is Renze and it was most probably spelt Rentz. This was changed for some or other reason. Kind regards / Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Walter Renze Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd. (Reg No. 1946/023458/07) Chairman: Dr J Heizmann* Managing Director: D Powels Directors: M Glendinning (Sales & Marketing), S Mund* (Finance), S Macozoma, PJ Smith (Human Resources), N Maliza (Corporate and Government Affairs), T du Plessis (Production), C Klingler** German*, Austrian** Volkswagen Group South Africa is a Level 4 Contributor in terms of the Broad-Based Black Economic Empowerment Act DISCLAIMER : Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. No liability shall attach whatsoever to VWSA from this communication except where the sender is acting on specific authority of VWSA, such authority being public record and acknowledged by VWSA by nature of the employee's functions. This document may in no way be photocopied, printed, scanned or electronically duplicated for any purposes other than that for which it was originally intended. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, please discard this message and notify VWSA immediately at [email protected] VWSA's anonymous toll free ethics number is: 0800 11 53 54 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:12:03 +0000 From: Coral Anna Foster <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question To: south africa <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Guten Tag! Do you know when they came to S.A., and also where they left (I'm assuming) Europe from? That would help a lot. Good luck w/ your investigations. Coral Anna > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:11:30 +0200 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question > > Dear All, > > Where can I find out what ship my great-grandparents came on to SA? My surname is Renze and it was most probably spelt Rentz. This was changed for some or other reason. > > Kind regards / Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Walter Renze > > Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd. (Reg No. 1946/023458/07) > Chairman: Dr J Heizmann* > Managing Director: D Powels > Directors: M Glendinning (Sales & Marketing), S Mund* (Finance), S > Macozoma, PJ Smith (Human Resources), N Maliza (Corporate and > Government Affairs), T du Plessis (Production), C Klingler** German*, > Austrian** > > Volkswagen Group South Africa is a Level 4 Contributor in terms of the > Broad-Based Black Economic Empowerment Act > > DISCLAIMER : Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. > No liability shall attach whatsoever to VWSA from this communication > except where the sender is acting on specific authority of VWSA, such > authority being public record and acknowledged by VWSA by nature of the employee's functions. > This document may in no way be photocopied, printed, scanned or > electronically duplicated for any purposes other than that for which it was originally intended. > > If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, please > discard this message and notify VWSA immediately at > [email protected] > > VWSA's anonymous toll free ethics number is: 0800 11 53 54 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:18:19 +0200 From: "Betty Timm" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Coral Anna Thankyou for replying. My grandparents on my mother's side came from Lancashire County in the UK. My mothers names were GRACE EDITH VORSATZ (nee LANCASTER) born 30.11.1906. My father came from Hamburg in Germany. His family left Germany for South West Africa and then moved to Cape Town. His names were JOHANN AUGUS CAREL FREDERICH VORSATZ. He was born on 19.10.1901. I do not have any documents that reflect my grandparents names anywhere. Kind regards Betty -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Coral Anna Foster Sent: 14/October/2010 02:12 PM To: south africa Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question Guten Tag! Do you know when they came to S.A., and also where they left (I'm assuming) Europe from? That would help a lot. Good luck w/ your investigations. Coral Anna > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:11:30 +0200 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question > > Dear All, > > Where can I find out what ship my great-grandparents came on to SA? My surname is Renze and it was most probably spelt Rentz. This was changed for some or other reason. > > Kind regards / Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Walter Renze > > Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd. (Reg No. 1946/023458/07) > Chairman: Dr J Heizmann* > Managing Director: D Powels > Directors: M Glendinning (Sales & Marketing), S Mund* (Finance), S > Macozoma, PJ Smith (Human Resources), N Maliza (Corporate and > Government Affairs), T du Plessis (Production), C Klingler** German*, > Austrian** > > Volkswagen Group South Africa is a Level 4 Contributor in terms of the > Broad-Based Black Economic Empowerment Act > > DISCLAIMER : Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. > No liability shall attach whatsoever to VWSA from this communication > except where the sender is acting on specific authority of VWSA, such > authority being public record and acknowledged by VWSA by nature of > the employee's functions. > This document may in no way be photocopied, printed, scanned or > electronically duplicated for any purposes other than that for which > it was originally intended. > > If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, please > discard this message and notify VWSA immediately at > [email protected] > > VWSA's anonymous toll free ethics number is: 0800 11 53 54 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:00:14 +0200 From: "Denise Igesund" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] PEARCE and GLAUM To: "'Neville Rasmussen'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thank you Neville. Going to check now. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Neville Rasmussen Sent: 13 October 2010 10:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] PEARCE and GLAUM The miners would most probably have been recruited to work at the Okiep copper mine near Springbok. see http://www.okiep.co.za/history.htm for a short history I undestand that there are Cornish miners that are buried in the Cemetry in Okiep Neville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise Igesund" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:24 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] PEARCE and GLAUM > My interests at present are to do with the Cornish miners that came to > Port Nolloth around the 1870-1890 period. > > Regards > Denise > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3190 - Release Date: > 10/11/10 08:34:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3190 - Release Date: 10/11/10 08:34:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3190 - Release Date: 10/11/10 08:34:00 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:45:19 +0200 From: "Betty Timm" <[email protected]> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] FW: Question To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Betty Timm Sent: 14/October/2010 03:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question Hi Coral Anna Thankyou for replying. My grandparents on my mother's side came from Lancashire County in the UK. My mothers names were GRACE EDITH VORSATZ (nee LANCASTER) born 30.11.1906. My father came from Hamburg in Germany. His family left Germany for South West Africa and then moved to Cape Town. His names were JOHANN AUGUS CAREL FREDERICH VORSATZ. He was born on 19.10.1901. I do not have any documents that reflect my grandparents names anywhere. Kind regards Betty -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Coral Anna Foster Sent: 14/October/2010 02:12 PM To: south africa Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question Guten Tag! Do you know when they came to S.A., and also where they left (I'm assuming) Europe from? That would help a lot. Good luck w/ your investigations. Coral Anna > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:11:30 +0200 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question > > Dear All, > > Where can I find out what ship my great-grandparents came on to SA? My surname is Renze and it was most probably spelt Rentz. This was changed for some or other reason. > > Kind regards / Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Walter Renze > > Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd. (Reg No. 1946/023458/07) > Chairman: Dr J Heizmann* > Managing Director: D Powels > Directors: M Glendinning (Sales & Marketing), S Mund* (Finance), S > Macozoma, PJ Smith (Human Resources), N Maliza (Corporate and > Government Affairs), T du Plessis (Production), C Klingler** German*, > Austrian** > > Volkswagen Group South Africa is a Level 4 Contributor in terms of the > Broad-Based Black Economic Empowerment Act > > DISCLAIMER : Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. > No liability shall attach whatsoever to VWSA from this communication > except where the sender is acting on specific authority of VWSA, such > authority being public record and acknowledged by VWSA by nature of > the employee's functions. > This document may in no way be photocopied, printed, scanned or > electronically duplicated for any purposes other than that for which > it was originally intended. > > If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, please > discard this message and notify VWSA immediately at > [email protected] > > VWSA's anonymous toll free ethics number is: 0800 11 53 54 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Betty Timm Sent: 14/October/2010 03:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question Hi Coral Anna Thankyou for replying. My grandparents on my mother's side came from Lancashire County in the UK. My mothers names were GRACE EDITH VORSATZ (nee LANCASTER) born 30.11.1906. My father came from Hamburg in Germany. His family left Germany for South West Africa and then moved to Cape Town. His names were JOHANN AUGUS CAREL FREDERICH VORSATZ. He was born on 19.10.1901. I do not have any documents that reflect my grandparents names anywhere. Kind regards Betty -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Coral Anna Foster Sent: 14/October/2010 02:12 PM To: south africa Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question Guten Tag! Do you know when they came to S.A., and also where they left (I'm assuming) Europe from? That would help a lot. Good luck w/ your investigations. Coral Anna > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:11:30 +0200 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question > > Dear All, > > Where can I find out what ship my great-grandparents came on to SA? My surname is Renze and it was most probably spelt Rentz. This was changed for some or other reason. > > Kind regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen, > > Walter Renze > > Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd. (Reg No. 1946/023458/07) > Chairman: Dr J Heizmann* > Managing Director: D Powels > Directors: M Glendinning (Sales & Marketing), S Mund* (Finance), S > Macozoma, PJ Smith (Human Resources), N Maliza (Corporate and > Government Affairs), T du Plessis (Production), C Klingler** German*, > Austrian** > > Volkswagen Group South Africa is a Level 4 Contributor in terms of the > Broad-Based Black Economic Empowerment Act > > DISCLAIMER : Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. > No liability shall attach whatsoever to VWSA from this communication > except where the sender is acting on specific authority of VWSA, such > authority being public record and acknowledged by VWSA by nature of > the employee's functions. > This document may in no way be photocopied, printed, scanned or > electronically duplicated for any purposes other than that for which > it was originally intended. > > If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, please > discard this message and notify VWSA immediately at > [email protected] > > VWSA's anonymous toll free ethics number is: 0800 11 53 54 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Neville. Going to check now. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Neville Rasmussen Sent: 13 October 2010 10:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] PEARCE and GLAUM The miners would most probably have been recruited to work at the Okiep copper mine near Springbok. see http://www.okiep.co.za/history.htm for a short history I undestand that there are Cornish miners that are buried in the Cemetry in Okiep Neville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise Igesund" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:24 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] PEARCE and GLAUM > My interests at present are to do with the Cornish miners that came to > Port > Nolloth around the 1870-1890 period. > > Regards > Denise > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3190 - Release Date: 10/11/10 > 08:34:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3190 - Release Date: 10/11/10 08:34:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3190 - Release Date: 10/11/10 08:34:00

Hi Coral Anna Thankyou for replying. My grandparents on my mother's side came from Lancashire County in the UK. My mothers names were GRACE EDITH VORSATZ (nee LANCASTER) born 30.11.1906. My father came from Hamburg in Germany. His family left Germany for South West Africa and then moved to Cape Town. His names were JOHANN AUGUS CAREL FREDERICH VORSATZ. He was born on 19.10.1901. I do not have any documents that reflect my grandparents names anywhere. Kind regards Betty -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Coral Anna Foster Sent: 14/October/2010 02:12 PM To: south africa Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question Guten Tag! Do you know when they came to S.A., and also where they left (I'm assuming) Europe from? That would help a lot. Good luck w/ your investigations. Coral Anna > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:11:30 +0200 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question > > Dear All, > > Where can I find out what ship my great-grandparents came on to SA? My surname is Renze and it was most probably spelt Rentz. This was changed for some or other reason. > > Kind regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen, > > Walter Renze > > Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd. (Reg No. 1946/023458/07) > Chairman: Dr J Heizmann* > Managing Director: D Powels > Directors: M Glendinning (Sales & Marketing), S Mund* (Finance), S > Macozoma, PJ Smith (Human Resources), N Maliza (Corporate and > Government Affairs), T du Plessis (Production), C Klingler** German*, > Austrian** > > Volkswagen Group South Africa is a Level 4 Contributor in terms of the > Broad-Based Black Economic Empowerment Act > > DISCLAIMER : Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. > No liability shall attach whatsoever to VWSA from this communication > except where the sender is acting on specific authority of VWSA, such > authority being public record and acknowledged by VWSA by nature of the employee's functions. > This document may in no way be photocopied, printed, scanned or > electronically duplicated for any purposes other than that for which it was originally intended. > > If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, please > discard this message and notify VWSA immediately at > [email protected] > > VWSA's anonymous toll free ethics number is: 0800 11 53 54 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Guten Tag! Do you know when they came to S.A., and also where they left (I'm assuming) Europe from? That would help a lot. Good luck w/ your investigations. Coral Anna > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:11:30 +0200 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Question > > Dear All, > > Where can I find out what ship my great-grandparents came on to SA? My surname is Renze and it was most probably spelt Rentz. This was changed for some or other reason. > > Kind regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen, > > Walter Renze > > Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd. (Reg No. 1946/023458/07) > Chairman: Dr J Heizmann* > Managing Director: D Powels > Directors: M Glendinning (Sales & Marketing), S Mund* (Finance), S Macozoma, PJ Smith (Human Resources), N Maliza (Corporate and Government Affairs), T du Plessis (Production), C Klingler** > German*, Austrian** > > Volkswagen Group South Africa is a Level 4 Contributor in terms of the Broad-Based Black Economic Empowerment Act > > DISCLAIMER : Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. > No liability shall attach whatsoever to VWSA from this communication except where > the sender is acting on specific authority of VWSA, such authority being public > record and acknowledged by VWSA by nature of the employee's functions. > This document may in no way be photocopied, printed, scanned or electronically > duplicated for any purposes other than that for which it was originally intended. > > If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, please discard > this message and notify VWSA immediately at [email protected] > > VWSA's anonymous toll free ethics number is: 0800 11 53 54 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear All, Where can I find out what ship my great-grandparents came on to SA? My surname is Renze and it was most probably spelt Rentz. This was changed for some or other reason. Kind regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Walter Renze Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd. (Reg No. 1946/023458/07) Chairman: Dr J Heizmann* Managing Director: D Powels Directors: M Glendinning (Sales & Marketing), S Mund* (Finance), S Macozoma, PJ Smith (Human Resources), N Maliza (Corporate and Government Affairs), T du Plessis (Production), C Klingler** German*, Austrian** Volkswagen Group South Africa is a Level 4 Contributor in terms of the Broad-Based Black Economic Empowerment Act DISCLAIMER : Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. No liability shall attach whatsoever to VWSA from this communication except where the sender is acting on specific authority of VWSA, such authority being public record and acknowledged by VWSA by nature of the employee's functions. This document may in no way be photocopied, printed, scanned or electronically duplicated for any purposes other than that for which it was originally intended. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, please discard this message and notify VWSA immediately at [email protected] VWSA's anonymous toll free ethics number is: 0800 11 53 54