Hello, this is my first posting to the list. I do hope someone out there can help me. I am looking for George Nicholson (Esq), he was born about 1821 - I know not where, I cannot find any birth/Bap for him in England. From his marriage certificate I know that his father was also George, a Gentleman. I have found him on the 1841 census aged 20 living alone in Westminster, London an Apprentice Solicitor! He then gets married in Dec 1841 to Ellen Wilkes in Ware, Hertfordshire, England and is of full age and a Gentleman. Their 1st child Ellen Maria was born in 1844 Cape of Good Hope, What I would like to know is "When and how did they get there, where did they live there and is there a Baptism for Ellen"? They were obviously going backwards and forwards as the 2nd daughter Edith was born in England in 1847, so are there any passenger lists? In 1894 Edith travelled to New York on a ship called "Paris" she was 48. In 1900 aged 52 she is in Multnomah, Oregon. Seems she never got married and never came back.. The 3rd daughter Georgina, my Great Grandmother was also born in The Cape of Good Hope in 1850/1, someone kindly found me her Baptism which was in the Cathedral Church on 20th July 1851, abode Rondebosch, the witnesses were two females Anne and Maria Nicholson ............. are they sisters of George? On Georgina's marriage certificate in 1871 she states that her father George is a Solicitor, I can find no evidence of George living in England at any time since the 1841 census, there are none of the family anywhere here on the 51 census and by the 61 his wife and 3 daughters are with her mother and there they stay. No sign of George!! I hope I haven't been too long winded and that someone somewhere might just know something ............. anything. Thank you in anticipation, Diana

Fr: James Cole-Rous To: Henri Fortuin There are two page lists of Leipoldt on Ancestry24.com. I saw a listing for DONGES First Name: THEODOR AMADEUS LEIPOLDT on the second page. You may want to explore the Leipoldt name on Ancestry24.com. I found many good connections to my own family there. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:01 AM, < [email protected]> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Donges Family (Karima Geldenhuys) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:20:55 +0200 > From: "Karima Geldenhuys" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Donges Family > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > EBEN WAS A LIQUOR REP > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Henri > Fortuin > Sent: 08 January 2011 06:04 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Donges Family > > Is the Leipoldt family tree available somewhere? In particular, I'm > missing the Donges line, that is, the parents of Eben Donges. Can > someone help? > > Thanks, > Henri > > -- > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, > e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) > standard. > The full disclaimer details can be found at > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. > > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by > MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for > their support. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN mailing list, send an email > to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Digest, Vol 6, Issue 10 > ***************************************************** > -- Jim Cole-Rous Director of Content www.GlobalChristianCenter.com Personal Web Site www.familyspectacularministries.org

EBEN WAS A LIQUOR REP -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Henri Fortuin Sent: 08 January 2011 06:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Donges Family Is the Leipoldt family tree available somewhere? In particular, I'm missing the Donges line, that is, the parents of Eben Donges. Can someone help? Thanks, Henri -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for their support. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers This is my first posting to the list.. I live in New Zealand having emigrated from England 1965. Researching South Africa is a new learning curve to me. My interest s are the names "BERESFORD' & 'ALTASS. ALTASS searching 1920 approx. (Seaman ) Any help / direction gratefully received. Willing to share information. kindest regards Nancy NZ

Thanks, Heather, this fills some gaps for me. >>> [email protected]> 09/01/11 03:56 >> ( mailto:[email protected] ) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:23:19 +0000 From: Heather MacAlister - Ancestry 24 <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Donges Family To: '[email protected]' Hi Henri Johannes Donges van Duitsland born 10.4.1744 married 26.4.1784 Anna Elizabeth WAGNER wed. Schilling Johann Michael Donges born 15.7.1786 married 12.6.1816 Anna Elizabeth KLEINHEUM * 23.9.1786 Johannes Michael Donges born Wetter by Marburg 6.2.1832 arrival 1854 as Rynse sendeling sterf Tulbagh 18.12.1912 married Wupperthal 4.1.1861 Anna Johanna Christina LEIPOLDT * 1.2.1837 sterf 18.12.1912 (sien Dictionary of SA Biography I) blJohannes Michael born 15.1.1862 b2Theophilus Christiaan Carnarvon born 4.10.1863 t Kroonstad 24.7.1949 married Lichtenburg 24.9.1889 Cornelia Hendrika Appeldoorn CRUYWAGEN * Wellington 7.11.1866 (sien Dictionary of SA Biography IV) clTheophilus Ebenezer born Klerksdorp 8.3.1898, aangewese staatspresident in 1967 t 10.1.1968 married 30.9.1926 Johanna Catharina Louisa SCHOEMAN * Vlakteplaas, Oudtshoorn 24.6.1904 dlUna 1.oueen born Kaapstad 29.4.1929 married 24.4.1956 Ralph RAM-SAY * Durban 6.4.1925 d2Ingrid Cornelia born Kaapstad 10.2.1933 married 26.11.1954 Jan Alberms Jacobus PICKARD * Piketberg 25.12.1927 b3Carolina Johanna Maria born 29.7.1865 married dr. P. ScHURMANN b4Theodor Amandeus Heinrich born Carnarvon 28.9.1869 sterf Heidelberg, Tvl. 19.10.1951 married 1903 Sarah Salomina VAN Thyssen (sien Dictionary of SA Biography IV) b5Friedrich Christiaan married Elizabeth BESTER clHester Brink Joachim Pieter Leopold * 1749 Groningen, Nederland 22.3.1750 s.v. Johan Joachim Leopold en Roelpina Derks, timmerman en orrelbouer aan die Kaap - Kaapstad 2.4.1797 married Nederland, Hillegonda SMITS van Groningen Heather MacAlister Channel Manager [email protected] T??+27 (021) 468 8957 -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for their support.

Hello there Yes I did Marilyn and I thank you so very much. I have contacted a person who is going to do some research for me all I have to do is work out what the currency is Diane -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marilyn Lilley Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2011 10:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Fw: A bit of help please! Hello Diane, Did you get all the information I sent you about the Prollius family in SA and also the email I sent you? Regards, Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Fw: A bit of help please! > Hello Tombi, > > I am so sorry but I am unable to help you I am trying to find information > on > the PROLLIUS family, are you able to help me > > Diane > Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tombi > Peck > Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2011 6:34 AM > To: South Africa Cape Town > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Fw: A bit of help please! > > > ----- > > Hi all you wonderful listers (yes, I am buttering you up, but it is true!) > > My NEWEST cousin (I did have her in the file, but we've only got to know > one > another over the last week or so) has asked me to look up information on > her > husband's parents and grandparents.... > > I've tried Ancestry....didn't find anything there; tried the IGI, wasn't > successful there, looked on NAAIRS, haven't found anything helpful there!! > > Rita's husband has the following information on his family.... > > Details: > MARCELLO ROLLANDI married to CATERINA ROLLANDI ( nee RICOBALDI) - Tex's > maternal grandparents. > JAMES CHARLES COOPER married to ANNIE MATILDA COOPER ( nee STEIGER) - > Tex's > paternal grandparents. (Steigers were from Germany, then came to SA? > ARTHUR EDWARD COOPER married to ANGELINA ERNESTINA - Tex's father and > mother married in Pretoria, SA > > Apologies, I have no dates for anything - Tex's maternal grandparents > came > from Italy to SA before 1912 - that is about all I know! > His parents were born and died in South Africa. > > Many thanks, > Best wishes, > Tombi Peck > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is the Leipoldt family tree available somewhere? In particular, I'm missing the Donges line, that is, the parents of Eben Donges. Can someone help? Thanks, Henri -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for their support.

Hello Tombi, I am so sorry but I am unable to help you I am trying to find information on the PROLLIUS family, are you able to help me Diane Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tombi Peck Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2011 6:34 AM To: South Africa Cape Town Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Fw: A bit of help please! ----- Hi all you wonderful listers (yes, I am buttering you up, but it is true!) My NEWEST cousin (I did have her in the file, but we've only got to know one another over the last week or so) has asked me to look up information on her husband's parents and grandparents.... I've tried Ancestry....didn't find anything there; tried the IGI, wasn't successful there, looked on NAAIRS, haven't found anything helpful there!! Rita's husband has the following information on his family.... Details: MARCELLO ROLLANDI married to CATERINA ROLLANDI ( nee RICOBALDI) - Tex's maternal grandparents. JAMES CHARLES COOPER married to ANNIE MATILDA COOPER ( nee STEIGER) - Tex's paternal grandparents. (Steigers were from Germany, then came to SA? ARTHUR EDWARD COOPER married to ANGELINA ERNESTINA - Tex's father and mother married in Pretoria, SA Apologies, I have no dates for anything - Tex's maternal grandparents came from Italy to SA before 1912 - that is about all I know! His parents were born and died in South Africa. Many thanks, Best wishes, Tombi Peck ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Henri Johannes Donges van Duitsland born 10.4.1744 married 26.4.1784 Anna Elizabeth WAGNER wed. Schilling Johann Michael Donges born 15.7.1786 married 12.6.1816 Anna Elizabeth KLEINHEUM * 23.9.1786 Johannes Michael Donges born Wetter by Marburg 6.2.1832 arrival 1854 as Rynse sendeling sterf Tulbagh 18.12.1912 married Wupperthal 4.1.1861 Anna Johanna Christina LEIPOLDT * 1.2.1837 sterf 18.12.1912 (sien Dictionary of SA Biography I) bl Johannes Michael born 15.1.1862 b2 Theophilus Christiaan Carnarvon born 4.10.1863 t Kroonstad 24.7.1949 married Lichtenburg 24.9.1889 Cornelia Hendrika Appeldoorn CRUYWAGEN * Wellington 7.11.1866 (sien Dictionary of SA Biography IV) cl Theophilus Ebenezer born Klerksdorp 8.3.1898, aangewese staatspresident in 1967 t 10.1.1968 married 30.9.1926 Johanna Catharina Louisa SCHOEMAN * Vlakteplaas, Oudtshoorn 24.6.1904 dl Una 1.oueen born Kaapstad 29.4.1929 married 24.4.1956 Ralph RAM-SAY * Durban 6.4.1925 d2 Ingrid Cornelia born Kaapstad 10.2.1933 married 26.11.1954 Jan Alberms Jacobus PICKARD * Piketberg 25.12.1927 b3 Carolina Johanna Maria born 29.7.1865 married dr. P. ScHURMANN b4 Theodor Amandeus Heinrich born Carnarvon 28.9.1869 sterf Heidelberg, Tvl. 19.10.1951 married 1903 Sarah Salomina VAN Thyssen (sien Dictionary of SA Biography IV) b5 Friedrich Christiaan married Elizabeth BESTER cl Hester Brink Joachim Pieter Leopold * 1749 Groningen, Nederland 22.3.1750 s.v. Johan Joachim Leopold en Roelpina Derks, timmerman en orrelbouer aan die Kaap - Kaapstad 2.4.1797 married Nederland, Hillegonda SMITS van Groningen Heather MacAlister Channel Manager E  [email protected] T  +27 (021) 468 8957 F +27 (0)86 5810390   Join us on Facebook  twitter.com/ancestry24  |  skype.com/ancestry24 7th Floor , 11  Adderley Street, Cape Town, 8000  |  www.ancestry24.co.za -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Henri Fortuin Sent: 08 January 2011 06:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Donges Family Is the Leipoldt family tree available somewhere? In particular, I'm missing the Donges line, that is, the parents of Eben Donges. Can someone help? Thanks, Henri -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for their support. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Diane, Did you get all the information I sent you about the Prollius family in SA and also the email I sent you? Regards, Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Fw: A bit of help please! > Hello Tombi, > > I am so sorry but I am unable to help you I am trying to find information > on > the PROLLIUS family, are you able to help me > > Diane > Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tombi > Peck > Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2011 6:34 AM > To: South Africa Cape Town > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Fw: A bit of help please! > > > ----- > > Hi all you wonderful listers (yes, I am buttering you up, but it is true!) > > My NEWEST cousin (I did have her in the file, but we've only got to know > one > another over the last week or so) has asked me to look up information on > her > husband's parents and grandparents.... > > I've tried Ancestry....didn't find anything there; tried the IGI, wasn't > successful there, looked on NAAIRS, haven't found anything helpful there!! > > Rita's husband has the following information on his family.... > > Details: > MARCELLO ROLLANDI married to CATERINA ROLLANDI ( nee RICOBALDI) - Tex's > maternal grandparents. > JAMES CHARLES COOPER married to ANNIE MATILDA COOPER ( nee STEIGER) - > Tex's > paternal grandparents. (Steigers were from Germany, then came to SA? > ARTHUR EDWARD COOPER married to ANGELINA ERNESTINA - Tex's father and > mother married in Pretoria, SA > > Apologies, I have no dates for anything - Tex's maternal grandparents > came > from Italy to SA before 1912 - that is about all I know! > His parents were born and died in South Africa. > > Many thanks, > Best wishes, > Tombi Peck > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tombi, just a shot in the dark, but I looked in our local Durban phone book - it is a very uncommon surname - and I found one entry: FH ROLLANDI, living at Kinross Mews, Kinross Place, Grosvenor (an area on the Bluff part of Durban). Hope this will turn out to be of some help. Best wishes for 2011 Rose

Wow! Thank you Rose...you're fantastic. I'll pass the information on to my cousin....I'm sure they will be delighted! Best wishes, Tombi Peck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose McArthur" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Fw: A bit of help please! > Hi Tombi, > > just a shot in the dark, but I looked in our local Durban phone book - it > is a very uncommon surname - and I found one entry: FH ROLLANDI, living > at Kinross Mews, Kinross Place, Grosvenor (an area on the Bluff part of > Durban). > > Hope this will turn out to be of some help. > > Best wishes for 2011 > > Rose > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3366 - Release Date: 01/07/11 >

Thanks Heather! So very kind. It's fortunate that they live in Pretoria.... I'm trying to get her to go there as I only managed to scratch the surface of the BROWNE files when I visited there a couple of times...it was unfortunate that the friend I was staying with on both occasions of my visits to South Africa is totally unsympathetic towards my wanting to spend time at the archives; she can see no point to family history whatsoever (although her paternal lineage in Northumbria is possibly very extensive...she emigrated to South Africa with her parents at the age of 5!! It's strange, three of my closest friends are totally opposed to my interest in family history. best wishes, Tombi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather MacAlister - Ancestry 24" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Fw: A bit of help please! > Tombi > > You need to search with surname only to get better results > > > ROLLANDI, MARCELLO > > Surname: ROLLANDI > > Collection: Transvaal Deceased Estates Index 1855 - 1976 > > > > ROLLANDI, ENRICO GIOVANNI UMBERTO > > Surname: ROLLANDI > > Collection: Transvaal Deceased Estates Index 1855 - 1976 > > Regards > Heather > > Heather MacAlister > Channel Manager > Tel:021 468 8957 > Fax:+27 (0)86 581 0390 > www.ancestry24.co.za > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ancestry24 > Skype: Ancestry24 > Facebook: Ancestry24 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tombi > Peck > Sent: 07 January 2011 09:34 PM > To: South Africa Cape Town > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Fw: A bit of help please! > > > ----- > > Hi all you wonderful listers (yes, I am buttering you up, but it is true!) > > My NEWEST cousin (I did have her in the file, but we've only got to know > one another over the last week or so) has asked me to look up information > on her husband's parents and grandparents.... > > I've tried Ancestry....didn't find anything there; tried the IGI, wasn't > successful there, looked on NAAIRS, haven't found anything helpful there!! > > Rita's husband has the following information on his family.... > > Details: > MARCELLO ROLLANDI married to CATERINA ROLLANDI ( nee RICOBALDI) - Tex's > maternal grandparents. > JAMES CHARLES COOPER married to ANNIE MATILDA COOPER ( nee STEIGER) - > Tex's paternal grandparents. (Steigers were from Germany, then came to SA? > ARTHUR EDWARD COOPER married to ANGELINA ERNESTINA - Tex's father and > mother married in Pretoria, SA > > Apologies, I have no dates for anything - Tex's maternal grandparents > came from Italy to SA before 1912 - that is about all I know! > His parents were born and died in South Africa. > > Many thanks, > Best wishes, > Tombi Peck > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3365 - Release Date: 01/07/11 >

Tombi You need to search with surname only to get better results ROLLANDI, MARCELLO Surname: ROLLANDI Collection: Transvaal Deceased Estates Index 1855 - 1976 ROLLANDI, ENRICO GIOVANNI UMBERTO Surname: ROLLANDI Collection: Transvaal Deceased Estates Index 1855 - 1976 Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Channel Manager Tel:021 468 8957 Fax:+27 (0)86 581 0390 www.ancestry24.co.za Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ancestry24 Skype: Ancestry24 Facebook: Ancestry24 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tombi Peck Sent: 07 January 2011 09:34 PM To: South Africa Cape Town Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Fw: A bit of help please! ----- Hi all you wonderful listers (yes, I am buttering you up, but it is true!) My NEWEST cousin (I did have her in the file, but we've only got to know one another over the last week or so) has asked me to look up information on her husband's parents and grandparents.... I've tried Ancestry....didn't find anything there; tried the IGI, wasn't successful there, looked on NAAIRS, haven't found anything helpful there!! Rita's husband has the following information on his family.... Details: MARCELLO ROLLANDI married to CATERINA ROLLANDI ( nee RICOBALDI) - Tex's maternal grandparents. JAMES CHARLES COOPER married to ANNIE MATILDA COOPER ( nee STEIGER) - Tex's paternal grandparents. (Steigers were from Germany, then came to SA? ARTHUR EDWARD COOPER married to ANGELINA ERNESTINA - Tex's father and mother married in Pretoria, SA Apologies, I have no dates for anything - Tex's maternal grandparents came from Italy to SA before 1912 - that is about all I know! His parents were born and died in South Africa. Many thanks, Best wishes, Tombi Peck ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am keen to trace a PETRONELLA JOHANNA GOUWS who in 1952 lived in Mountainview Road, Ceres, W Cape I have no idea whether she is still alive or not. Nor do I know whether, due to marriage, there has been a name change over the years.   I would appreciate any advice/ guidance etc as to how to go about this search   Mary-Ann    email: [email protected]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Lilley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Prollius family history > > Hello Diane, > These are on Ancestry24, a South African website http://ancestry24.com/ > The documents will give you more information about dates of birth, > spouses, children, etc. > Amedi below is possibly Armadee. > Also try NAAIRS http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl > National archives of SA. > South African White Pages below > Goodluck! > Marilyn > > SA White Pages > http://www.phonebookoftheworld.com/southafrica/white-pages.asp > > Below > > http://phonebook.yellowpages.co.za/search.jsp?query=Prollius&location=&searchCategory=&submitBt=Find&search=1 > A J B Prollius Nuwehoop , vredendal , Boland & West Coast , Western Cape > 0272133199 > > Save it > Share it! > J P D Prollius 20 Krombekstr , East Rand , Gauteng 0113932550 > > Save it > Share it! > Njj Prollius 13 Kamferhout Av Birchleigh 0113910176 > > Save it > Share it! > > http://ancestry24.com/?group=on&s=search&srchSurname=Prollius&srchName=First+Names&submit=%C2%A0 > > PROLLIUS, AMEDI BALDWIN > Surname: > PROLLIUS > First Name: > AMEDI BALDWIN > Collection: > Transvaal Deceased Estates Index 1855 - 1976Surname: PROLLIUS > First Name: AMEDI BALDWIN > Date: 19610000 > Reference: 8108/61 > Source: Master of the Supreme Court, Pretoria (MHG) > Source Location: National Archives, Pretoria (TAB) > ID: 405036 > PROLLIUS, FREDERICK BALDWIN > Surname: > PROLLIUS > First Name: > FREDERICK BALDWIN > Collection: > Transvaal Deceased Estates Index 1855 - 1976 > > Surname: PROLLIUS > First Name: FREDERICK BALDWIN > Date: 19630000 > Reference: 9755/63 > Source: Master of the Supreme Court, Pretoria (MHG) > Source Location: National Archives, Pretoria (TAB) > ID: 405037 > PROLLIUS, MARTHINA JACOBA > Surname: > PROLLIUS > First Name: > MARTHINA JACOBA > Collection: > Transvaal Deceased Estates Index 1855 - 1976 > Surname: PROLLIUS > First Name: MARTHINA JACOBA > Date: 19740000 > Reference: 12294/74 > Source: Master of the Supreme Court, Pretoria (MHG) > Source Location: National Archives, Pretoria (TAB) > ID: 405039 > > PROLLIUS, JOZEPH PIERRE DAWID > Surname: > PROLLIUS > First Name: > JOZEPH PIERRE DAWID > Collection: > Transvaal Deceased Estates Index 1855 - 1976 > JOZEPH PIERRE DAWID PROLLIUS > Source: Master of the Supreme Court, Pretoria (MHG) > Surname: PROLLIUS > First Name: JOZEPH PIERRE DAWID > Date: 19760000 > Reference: 11804/76 > Source: Master of the Supreme Court, Pretoria (MHG) > Source Location: National Archives, Pretoria (TAB) > ID: 405038 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diane" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:24 PM > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Prollius family history > > >>I hope someone can please help me. I am a decendant of the family name of >> PROLLIUS I believe there was a person by the name of Armadee who lived >> in >> South Africa. I hope that a relative of his sees this and is able to >> contact me. I would appreciate any information at all on the history of >> the >> people >> >> >> >> Diane >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I hope someone can please help me. I am a decendant of the family name of PROLLIUS I believe there was a person by the name of Armadee who lived in South Africa. I hope that a relative of his sees this and is able to contact me. I would appreciate any information at all on the history of the people Diane

----- Hi all you wonderful listers (yes, I am buttering you up, but it is true!) My NEWEST cousin (I did have her in the file, but we've only got to know one another over the last week or so) has asked me to look up information on her husband's parents and grandparents.... I've tried Ancestry....didn't find anything there; tried the IGI, wasn't successful there, looked on NAAIRS, haven't found anything helpful there!! Rita's husband has the following information on his family.... Details: MARCELLO ROLLANDI married to CATERINA ROLLANDI ( nee RICOBALDI) - Tex's maternal grandparents. JAMES CHARLES COOPER married to ANNIE MATILDA COOPER ( nee STEIGER) - Tex's paternal grandparents. (Steigers were from Germany, then came to SA? ARTHUR EDWARD COOPER married to ANGELINA ERNESTINA - Tex's father and mother married in Pretoria, SA Apologies, I have no dates for anything - Tex's maternal grandparents came from Italy to SA before 1912 - that is about all I know! His parents were born and died in South Africa. Many thanks, Best wishes, Tombi Peck

1. NAAIRS - 33 Prollius references, including Amedi, click on each for more details. http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300ds?20110107152844D6376280&PN=00000001 2. SA dialing 027 - numbers I sent you 027 21 33199 , 027 11 3932550, 027 11 3910176 Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Prollius family history >I hope someone can please help me. I am a decendant of the family name of > PROLLIUS I believe there was a person by the name of Armadee who lived in > South Africa. I hope that a relative of his sees this and is able to > contact me. I would appreciate any information at all on the history of > the > people > > > > Diane > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Jan and other listers, Although I am not researching the AUGUSTYN family myself, I did in the past help someone with their research into this family. According to the SA Genealogies Vol 1, the "stamvader" was Jan Heymerik AUGUSTYN * Amsterdam 1784, teacher + Versefontein, Calvinia 22.10.1862. His parents were Jan AUGUSTYN and Johanna HEYMERIK. He married Johanna Maria VAN OMMEN, daughter of David VAN OMMEN and Wanderina GEERLING on 1.3.1818 in the Lutheran Church, Cape Town. I will send a scan of the relevant pages from SAG to your private e-mail. I know there are various AUGUSTYN estate files in the Cape Archives and these appear to be centred around Calvinia, Fraserburg, Beaufort West and Sutherland. As to your hypothesis of a slave origin, I doubt that this is correct but, as I have said, I have not researched this family very well. There were to my knowledge no caucasian slaves brought to the Cape. All slaves were from Africa, the East and possibly one or two South American natives. What did happen is that with the various wars between Poland and Russia, there was a displacement of persons (refugees) to Germany and further as the economy of Western Europe was in a far better state than that of Eastern Europe, many young persons went to (especially) Holland in search of work. These persons invariably entered into contracts of employment with the Dutch East India Company. The fact that Jan and Johanna married in the Lutheran Church could be indicative of a link, in either family and possibly in a previous generation, to German (and / or Polish) ancestry. You will find that slaves are more prevalent in the maternal lines. Regards Paul LE ROUX Paarl LE ROUX x STEMMET MILNS x SANDS