I am looking for this family who were from England.  John Pickersgill and his wife Mary Jane (formerly Orange).  They may have married in Cape Town as I have been unable to find a marriage in England.  Their children were born in Cape Town, Ethel in 1874,  Maud 1878 Harry 1879, (I have Harry's baptism certificate from St.Mary's Woodstock).  Mary and the children left Cape Town on the SS Nubian in 1882 and I believe a fourth child was born on the voyage back to London and named Nuby after the ship.   John stayed on in Cape Town and died there in 1897.  I would like to know if a marriage took place in Cape Town, whether the other children were baptised in St. Mary's Woodstock, and what happened to John between the years 1882 and 1897.  Did he start another family?  I believe there was a Pickersgill descendent in Cape Town listed in the phone book in 1997.  Is this a desendent of John?   Any help much appreciated.  Angela.

Hello SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN, Could anyone tell me if their are any records of members of the Grahamstown volunteers, and where these are kept. Thanks Gordon Donaldson

Thank you Heather!!! Would you possibly be able to check on banns for a marriage on 5th September 1820 at St Pancras Old Church, London, ELIZA GILES to William BECKWITH. I have just drawn a blank trying to find his background as he just doesn't appear on the 1851 Census, was not living with his wife Eliza and then on the 1861 Census - she was a widow. Just hoping there may be a clue in the banns..... Thanks again Dianne -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Heather MacAlister - Ancestry 24 Sent: 11 April 2012 11:56 AM To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] BURTON-SCOTT Hi Gwen and Dianne London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Apline Burton Name: Apline Burton of Edgeware Road Spouse Name: Charles Scott servant of Edgeware Road Spouse Age: Full Age Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 12 Aug 1850 Parish: Paddington Green St Mary Borough: Westminster Father Name: Edward Burton - ornamental plasterer Spouse Father Name: Thomas Scott - labourer Register Type: Parish Register Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Channel Manager E  heather@ancestry24.co.za T  +27 (021) 468 8957 F +27 (0)86 5810390 Join us on Facebook  twitter.com/ancestry24  |  skype.com/ancestry24 7th Floor , 11  Adderley Street, Cape Town, 8000  |  www.ancestry24.co.za -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DI - DD KITS Sent: 11 April 2012 11:34 AM To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] BURTON-SCOTT Hi Gwen I am so excited about this information!!!! Thank you, thank you!Let me fill in the background... Appeline(16) was sent out (with her sister Mary Anne -15) with the Childrens Friend Society - arriving in Cape 1837 to be apprenticed to John Barry - where she worked as their housemaid. Mary Anne worked for Thomas Barry. They were not orphans - apparently wrote home often and heard from family regularly. The family must have been destitute for the two girls to be in a workhouse....but the girls were educated! I found the record of Charles and Apline + Eliza returning to the Cape - departing from London 14th August 1850. Never thought to look in the UK records for the birth or their marriage! So she was pregnant and they decided to go back to England for the birth and to get married??? Why - she was a housemaid and 30 yrs old? Was this not quite an expensive exercise - travel in 1850? Did the Barry's pay for this? She was obviously close to them as John Barry Snr and Letitia were witnesses to two of the subsequent births of children... I had the names of her parents in her late baptism 25th September 1854.... also a bit strange. I found Edward (ornamental plasterer) and wife Sarah on the 1851 Census in Paddington - 52 North Wharf Road. Thank you once again....So interesting..... Dianne -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gwen Doyle Sent: 11 April 2012 02:15 AM To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] BURTON-SCOTT Hi, Think Charles Scott and Apline Burton may have been married in UK. Have found an entry for the same names for a marriage on 12th August 1850 in the Parish of Paddington Green St Mary in the Borough Westminster. His father was Thomas Scott a Labourer and her father was Edward Burton a (? cannot read the word) Plasterer. They both were resident at Edgeware Road at time of marriage and Charles is listed as a servant. Both Charles and Apline signed their names. He was a bachelor and she a spinster. They were married by banns. There is a record in St. Maryleborne Christ Church, Westminister Parish Register for a Baptism of Eliza Scott (Father Charles Scott, Mother Appeline Scott) on 9th August 1850. At that time they were living at 39 Exeter Street. Charles' profession is listed as a Labourer. Seems like they baptised the lass then three days later married and changed profession and address very quickly??? Gwen -----Original Message----- From: DI - DD KITS Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:57 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] BURTON-SCOTT Hello My first time on this list. I am looking for a marriage in Swellendam before 1850 - maybe 1848 or 1849, which doesn't seem to be on Ancestry 24. Charles SCOTT m Appeline BURTON Also the birth/baptism of their first child in Swellendam - Eliza SCOTT born approx 1849, 1850 Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Regards Dianne Butcher ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7043 (20120410) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gwen I am so excited about this information!!!! Thank you, thank you!Let me fill in the background... Appeline(16) was sent out (with her sister Mary Anne -15) with the Childrens Friend Society - arriving in Cape 1837 to be apprenticed to John Barry - where she worked as their housemaid. Mary Anne worked for Thomas Barry. They were not orphans - apparently wrote home often and heard from family regularly. The family must have been destitute for the two girls to be in a workhouse....but the girls were educated! I found the record of Charles and Apline + Eliza returning to the Cape - departing from London 14th August 1850. Never thought to look in the UK records for the birth or their marriage! So she was pregnant and they decided to go back to England for the birth and to get married??? Why - she was a housemaid and 30 yrs old? Was this not quite an expensive exercise - travel in 1850? Did the Barry's pay for this? She was obviously close to them as John Barry Snr and Letitia were witnesses to two of the subsequent births of children... I had the names of her parents in her late baptism 25th September 1854.... also a bit strange. I found Edward (ornamental plasterer) and wife Sarah on the 1851 Census in Paddington - 52 North Wharf Road. Thank you once again....So interesting..... Dianne -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gwen Doyle Sent: 11 April 2012 02:15 AM To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] BURTON-SCOTT Hi, Think Charles Scott and Apline Burton may have been married in UK. Have found an entry for the same names for a marriage on 12th August 1850 in the Parish of Paddington Green St Mary in the Borough Westminster. His father was Thomas Scott a Labourer and her father was Edward Burton a (? cannot read the word) Plasterer. They both were resident at Edgeware Road at time of marriage and Charles is listed as a servant. Both Charles and Apline signed their names. He was a bachelor and she a spinster. They were married by banns. There is a record in St. Maryleborne Christ Church, Westminister Parish Register for a Baptism of Eliza Scott (Father Charles Scott, Mother Appeline Scott) on 9th August 1850. At that time they were living at 39 Exeter Street. Charles' profession is listed as a Labourer. Seems like they baptised the lass then three days later married and changed profession and address very quickly??? Gwen -----Original Message----- From: DI - DD KITS Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:57 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] BURTON-SCOTT Hello My first time on this list. I am looking for a marriage in Swellendam before 1850 - maybe 1848 or 1849, which doesn't seem to be on Ancestry 24. Charles SCOTT m Appeline BURTON Also the birth/baptism of their first child in Swellendam - Eliza SCOTT born approx 1849, 1850 Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Regards Dianne Butcher ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7043 (20120410) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Think Charles Scott and Apline Burton may have been married in UK. Have found an entry for the same names for a marriage on 12th August 1850 in the Parish of Paddington Green St Mary in the Borough Westminster. His father was Thomas Scott a Labourer and her father was Edward Burton a (? cannot read the word) Plasterer. They both were resident at Edgeware Road at time of marriage and Charles is listed as a servant. Both Charles and Apline signed their names. He was a bachelor and she a spinster. They were married by banns. There is a record in St. Maryleborne Christ Church, Westminister Parish Register for a Baptism of Eliza Scott (Father Charles Scott, Mother Appeline Scott) on 9th August 1850. At that time they were living at 39 Exeter Street. Charles' profession is listed as a Labourer. Seems like they baptised the lass then three days later married and changed profession and address very quickly??? Gwen -----Original Message----- From: DI - DD KITS Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:57 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] BURTON-SCOTT Hello My first time on this list. I am looking for a marriage in Swellendam before 1850 - maybe 1848 or 1849, which doesn't seem to be on Ancestry 24. Charles SCOTT m Appeline BURTON Also the birth/baptism of their first child in Swellendam - Eliza SCOTT born approx 1849, 1850 Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Regards Dianne Butcher ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7043 (20120410) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Hi Gwen and Dianne London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Apline Burton Name: Apline Burton of Edgeware Road Spouse Name: Charles Scott servant of Edgeware Road Spouse Age: Full Age Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 12 Aug 1850 Parish: Paddington Green St Mary Borough: Westminster Father Name: Edward Burton - ornamental plasterer Spouse Father Name: Thomas Scott - labourer Register Type: Parish Register Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Channel Manager E  heather@ancestry24.co.za T  +27 (021) 468 8957 F +27 (0)86 5810390   Join us on Facebook  twitter.com/ancestry24  |  skype.com/ancestry24 7th Floor , 11  Adderley Street, Cape Town, 8000  |  www.ancestry24.co.za -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DI - DD KITS Sent: 11 April 2012 11:34 AM To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] BURTON-SCOTT Hi Gwen I am so excited about this information!!!! Thank you, thank you!Let me fill in the background... Appeline(16) was sent out (with her sister Mary Anne -15) with the Childrens Friend Society - arriving in Cape 1837 to be apprenticed to John Barry - where she worked as their housemaid. Mary Anne worked for Thomas Barry. They were not orphans - apparently wrote home often and heard from family regularly. The family must have been destitute for the two girls to be in a workhouse....but the girls were educated! I found the record of Charles and Apline + Eliza returning to the Cape - departing from London 14th August 1850. Never thought to look in the UK records for the birth or their marriage! So she was pregnant and they decided to go back to England for the birth and to get married??? Why - she was a housemaid and 30 yrs old? Was this not quite an expensive exercise - travel in 1850? Did the Barry's pay for this? She was obviously close to them as John Barry Snr and Letitia were witnesses to two of the subsequent births of children... I had the names of her parents in her late baptism 25th September 1854.... also a bit strange. I found Edward (ornamental plasterer) and wife Sarah on the 1851 Census in Paddington - 52 North Wharf Road. Thank you once again....So interesting..... Dianne -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gwen Doyle Sent: 11 April 2012 02:15 AM To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] BURTON-SCOTT Hi, Think Charles Scott and Apline Burton may have been married in UK. Have found an entry for the same names for a marriage on 12th August 1850 in the Parish of Paddington Green St Mary in the Borough Westminster. His father was Thomas Scott a Labourer and her father was Edward Burton a (? cannot read the word) Plasterer. They both were resident at Edgeware Road at time of marriage and Charles is listed as a servant. Both Charles and Apline signed their names. He was a bachelor and she a spinster. They were married by banns. There is a record in St. Maryleborne Christ Church, Westminister Parish Register for a Baptism of Eliza Scott (Father Charles Scott, Mother Appeline Scott) on 9th August 1850. At that time they were living at 39 Exeter Street. Charles' profession is listed as a Labourer. Seems like they baptised the lass then three days later married and changed profession and address very quickly??? Gwen -----Original Message----- From: DI - DD KITS Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:57 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] BURTON-SCOTT Hello My first time on this list. I am looking for a marriage in Swellendam before 1850 - maybe 1848 or 1849, which doesn't seem to be on Ancestry 24. Charles SCOTT m Appeline BURTON Also the birth/baptism of their first child in Swellendam - Eliza SCOTT born approx 1849, 1850 Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Regards Dianne Butcher ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7043 (20120410) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Gwen There is a baptism for Sarah Letitia Scott child of Charles and Appeline Scott in Swellendam http://ancestry24.com/search-item/?id=C2148021919 Baptism of Emily Scott http://ancestry24.com/search-item/?id=C2148021916 Mary Ann http://ancestry24.com/search-item/?id=C2148021918 Henry http://ancestry24.com/search-item/?id=C2148021917 Elizabeth Mary http://ancestry24.com/search-item/?id=C2148021915 John Charles http://ancestry24.com/search-item/?id=C2148021914 Arthur http://ancestry24.com/search-item/?id=C2148021913 Death notice of Appeline http://ancestry24.com/search-item/?id=C1369011 Baptism of Appeline Burton nee Scott (born 1820) http://ancestry24.com/search-item/?id=C2148021499 Hope this helps Heather Heather MacAlister Channel Manager E  heather@ancestry24.co.za T  +27 (021) 468 8957 F +27 (0)86 5810390   Join us on Facebook  twitter.com/ancestry24  |  skype.com/ancestry24 7th Floor , 11  Adderley Street, Cape Town, 8000  |  www.ancestry24.co.za -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gwen Doyle Sent: 11 April 2012 02:15 AM To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] BURTON-SCOTT Hi, Think Charles Scott and Apline Burton may have been married in UK. Have found an entry for the same names for a marriage on 12th August 1850 in the Parish of Paddington Green St Mary in the Borough Westminster. His father was Thomas Scott a Labourer and her father was Edward Burton a (? cannot read the word) Plasterer. They both were resident at Edgeware Road at time of marriage and Charles is listed as a servant. Both Charles and Apline signed their names. He was a bachelor and she a spinster. They were married by banns. There is a record in St. Maryleborne Christ Church, Westminister Parish Register for a Baptism of Eliza Scott (Father Charles Scott, Mother Appeline Scott) on 9th August 1850. At that time they were living at 39 Exeter Street. Charles' profession is listed as a Labourer. Seems like they baptised the lass then three days later married and changed profession and address very quickly??? Gwen -----Original Message----- From: DI - DD KITS Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:57 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] BURTON-SCOTT Hello My first time on this list. I am looking for a marriage in Swellendam before 1850 - maybe 1848 or 1849, which doesn't seem to be on Ancestry 24. Charles SCOTT m Appeline BURTON Also the birth/baptism of their first child in Swellendam - Eliza SCOTT born approx 1849, 1850 Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Regards Dianne Butcher ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7043 (20120410) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert Joseph Deeker and Hannah Clark, These are my gt gt g'parents and from what I can find were both born in England (Robt abt 1812 in London, Hannah in Warwickshire abt 1808) and married in Cape Town in abt 1830, They had 10 children there before moving to Victoria, Aust in 1853. I am particularly interested in getting a copy of their marriage cert and their dtr Annie's birth cert (my gt g'mother). She was born abt 1843 in Cape Town. These certs partly to establish the spelling of their names - there has been some uncertainty about it being Deeker or Decker, and also if they have more about their background. Any dates are approx, because the only source is their death certs in Victoria. I would like to know about their life in SA to get a more complete idea of them. Any help or guidance would be great. Garry Clough in Victoria, Aust

One can get a copy of the service record of anyone who served in the SA forces. They are not the fastsest when it comes to a reply but eventually you will get all they have in their records on a particular serviceman. I even got the pay records of my dad however I also got the records of another servicman with the same surname mixed in with it so I suspect that some of the older records may have got a bit mixed up in the various moves the documentation made when it was consolidated in Pretoria. I sent them and e-mail and they replied asking for a postal address so if you include it with your initial requsts it may save some time Below is the intro found on the website. It looks as if it is only the airforce but in fact the info is for all service arms. The website is http://www.saairforce.co.za/contact Neville Rasmussen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ How to Obtain a Personnel Record: Records of all South African servicemen in the Army, Navy and Air Force are held in the SANDF archives. Copies of service records can be acquired if application is made in writing. Records cannot be sent electronically and therefore a fax number or postal address must be included in the request. SANDF Documentation Service Directorate (Personnel Division) The Senior Staff Officer Documentation Centre Private Bag X289 Pretoria 0001 South Africa E-mail: sandfdoc@mweb.co.za Telephone: +27 12 339 4600 Fax: +27 12 339 4631 The approximately 3 million personnel records in the Department of Defence Archives are indexed according to a specific convention. You are therefore requested to provide the Documentation Centre with as much detail as possible regarding the person you are seeking information on. The following are guidelines: a.. a. Regimental number a.. b. Identity number or date of birth a.. c. Place of birth a.. d. Date of assumption of military service a.. e. Date of discharge from military service a.. f. Regiment/unit where the person served a.. g. Name and address of next-of-kin at the time of his attestation ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Tombi - or anyone who has the info...my grandfather, Jack Coetzee born in >> Goudini, joined the Transvaal Scottish. However, I have a scan of the >> page where he was being discharged in the USA? Did our South African >> troops travel via the US to come home to S.A.? Seems like a long way >> around since we were still in the Commonwealth at that time. Has anyone >> else come across this? >> >> thanks, >> Coral Anna >> >> >> >>> From: tombipeck@talktalk.net >>> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:33:41 +0100 >>> CC: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com; >>> south-africa-immigrants-british@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Photograph of 5th Field, 13 Battery. >>> >>> I've found another photograph taken during my father's Service. >>> >>> The photograph is not dated. >>> >>> I do not know if it was taken in Carolina before they went up North or >>> in North Africa itself. >>> >>> My father was No. 1777787V. A Bombadier in the 1/16 Battery 1/6 Field >>> Regiment, South African Army. >>> >>> Back Row left to right standing: Edgar Goldblum, Herbert Mills, Ken >>> McIntyre, George Burridge, Ralph Dees, Jack Peyper, Les Richards >>> >>> 2nd Row seated. Lt. Hunt, Captain Carter, Lt. Lundberg, Captain Ryan, >>> 2nd Lt. McDonald, Shorty Pinshaw and standing Hopkins >>> >>> Seated on the ground: Stucki, Diffenthal, Alec Griffiths (ex 5th Field >>> 13 Battery). >>> >>> I presume the last comment in brackets refers to Alec Griffiths. >>> >>> If anyone would like a copy of the photograph please contact me off >>> list. >>> Best wishes, >>> Tombi Peck >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Möhr" <mohr@lantic.net> To: <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Photograph of 5th Field, 13 Battery and question about WW1 S.A. soldiers' discharge > See also http://www.acronymfinder.com/Union-of-South-Africa-%28USA%29.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Coral Anna Foster" <thandisa@msn.com> > To: "south africa" <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:07 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Photograph of 5th Field, 13 Battery > and question about WW1 S.A. soldiers' discharge > > >> >> Tombi - or anyone who has the info...my grandfather, Jack Coetzee born in >> Goudini, joined the Transvaal Scottish. However, I have a scan of the >> page where he was being discharged in the USA? Did our South African >> troops travel via the US to come home to S.A.? Seems like a long way >> around since we were still in the Commonwealth at that time. Has anyone >> else come across this? >> >> thanks, >> Coral Anna >> >> >> >>> From: tombipeck@talktalk.net >>> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:33:41 +0100 >>> CC: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com; >>> south-africa-immigrants-british@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Photograph of 5th Field, 13 Battery. >>> >>> I've found another photograph taken during my father's Service. >>> >>> The photograph is not dated. >>> >>> I do not know if it was taken in Carolina before they went up North or >>> in North Africa itself. >>> >>> My father was No. 1777787V. A Bombadier in the 1/16 Battery 1/6 Field >>> Regiment, South African Army. >>> >>> Back Row left to right standing: Edgar Goldblum, Herbert Mills, Ken >>> McIntyre, George Burridge, Ralph Dees, Jack Peyper, Les Richards >>> >>> 2nd Row seated. Lt. Hunt, Captain Carter, Lt. Lundberg, Captain Ryan, >>> 2nd Lt. McDonald, Shorty Pinshaw and standing Hopkins >>> >>> Seated on the ground: Stucki, Diffenthal, Alec Griffiths (ex 5th Field >>> 13 Battery). >>> >>> I presume the last comment in brackets refers to Alec Griffiths. >>> >>> If anyone would like a copy of the photograph please contact me off >>> list. >>> Best wishes, >>> Tombi Peck >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

See also http://www.acronymfinder.com/Union-of-South-Africa-%28USA%29.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coral Anna Foster" <thandisa@msn.com> To: "south africa" <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Photograph of 5th Field, 13 Battery and question about WW1 S.A. soldiers' discharge > > Tombi - or anyone who has the info...my grandfather, Jack Coetzee born in > Goudini, joined the Transvaal Scottish. However, I have a scan of the > page where he was being discharged in the USA? Did our South African > troops travel via the US to come home to S.A.? Seems like a long way > around since we were still in the Commonwealth at that time. Has anyone > else come across this? > > thanks, > Coral Anna > > > >> From: tombipeck@talktalk.net >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:33:41 +0100 >> CC: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com; >> south-africa-immigrants-british@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Photograph of 5th Field, 13 Battery. >> >> I've found another photograph taken during my father's Service. >> >> The photograph is not dated. >> >> I do not know if it was taken in Carolina before they went up North or in >> North Africa itself. >> >> My father was No. 1777787V. A Bombadier in the 1/16 Battery 1/6 Field >> Regiment, South African Army. >> >> Back Row left to right standing: Edgar Goldblum, Herbert Mills, Ken >> McIntyre, George Burridge, Ralph Dees, Jack Peyper, Les Richards >> >> 2nd Row seated. Lt. Hunt, Captain Carter, Lt. Lundberg, Captain Ryan, 2nd >> Lt. McDonald, Shorty Pinshaw and standing Hopkins >> >> Seated on the ground: Stucki, Diffenthal, Alec Griffiths (ex 5th Field 13 >> Battery). >> >> I presume the last comment in brackets refers to Alec Griffiths. >> >> If anyone would like a copy of the photograph please contact me off list. >> Best wishes, >> Tombi Peck >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Coral Anna, Are you sure it is not Union of South Africa ( USA). I have seen the same mistake being made before. Cheers, Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coral Anna Foster" <thandisa@msn.com> To: "south africa" <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Photograph of 5th Field, 13 Battery and question about WW1 S.A. soldiers' discharge > > Tombi - or anyone who has the info...my grandfather, Jack Coetzee born in > Goudini, joined the Transvaal Scottish. However, I have a scan of the > page where he was being discharged in the USA? Did our South African > troops travel via the US to come home to S.A.? Seems like a long way > around since we were still in the Commonwealth at that time. Has anyone > else come across this? > > thanks, > Coral Anna > > > >> From: tombipeck@talktalk.net >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:33:41 +0100 >> CC: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com; >> south-africa-immigrants-british@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Photograph of 5th Field, 13 Battery. >> >> I've found another photograph taken during my father's Service. >> >> The photograph is not dated. >> >> I do not know if it was taken in Carolina before they went up North or in >> North Africa itself. >> >> My father was No. 1777787V. A Bombadier in the 1/16 Battery 1/6 Field >> Regiment, South African Army. >> >> Back Row left to right standing: Edgar Goldblum, Herbert Mills, Ken >> McIntyre, George Burridge, Ralph Dees, Jack Peyper, Les Richards >> >> 2nd Row seated. Lt. Hunt, Captain Carter, Lt. Lundberg, Captain Ryan, 2nd >> Lt. McDonald, Shorty Pinshaw and standing Hopkins >> >> Seated on the ground: Stucki, Diffenthal, Alec Griffiths (ex 5th Field 13 >> Battery). >> >> I presume the last comment in brackets refers to Alec Griffiths. >> >> If anyone would like a copy of the photograph please contact me off list. >> Best wishes, >> Tombi Peck >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Coral Anna, Not something I've heard of...If I remember correctly my Dad flew home down East Africa...I've looked for his letter (I have it somewhere) but at this moment I can't find it....it's not in the file it should be in. Best wishes, Tombi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coral Anna Foster" <thandisa@msn.com> To: "south africa" <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Photograph of 5th Field, 13 Battery and question about WW1 S.A. soldiers' discharge > > Tombi - or anyone who has the info...my grandfather, Jack Coetzee born in > Goudini, joined the Transvaal Scottish. However, I have a scan of the > page where he was being discharged in the USA? Did our South African > troops travel via the US to come home to S.A.? Seems like a long way > around since we were still in the Commonwealth at that time. Has anyone > else come across this? > > thanks, > Coral Anna > > > >> From: tombipeck@talktalk.net >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:33:41 +0100 >> CC: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com; >> south-africa-immigrants-british@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Photograph of 5th Field, 13 Battery. >> >> I've found another photograph taken during my father's Service. >> >> The photograph is not dated. >> >> I do not know if it was taken in Carolina before they went up North or in >> North Africa itself. >> >> My father was No. 1777787V. A Bombadier in the 1/16 Battery 1/6 Field >> Regiment, South African Army. >> >> Back Row left to right standing: Edgar Goldblum, Herbert Mills, Ken >> McIntyre, George Burridge, Ralph Dees, Jack Peyper, Les Richards >> >> 2nd Row seated. Lt. Hunt, Captain Carter, Lt. Lundberg, Captain Ryan, 2nd >> Lt. McDonald, Shorty Pinshaw and standing Hopkins >> >> Seated on the ground: Stucki, Diffenthal, Alec Griffiths (ex 5th Field 13 >> Battery). >> >> I presume the last comment in brackets refers to Alec Griffiths. >> >> If anyone would like a copy of the photograph please contact me off list. >> Best wishes, >> Tombi Peck >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4925 - Release Date: 04/09/12 >

Tombi - or anyone who has the info...my grandfather, Jack Coetzee born in Goudini, joined the Transvaal Scottish. However, I have a scan of the page where he was being discharged in the USA? Did our South African troops travel via the US to come home to S.A.? Seems like a long way around since we were still in the Commonwealth at that time. Has anyone else come across this? thanks, Coral Anna > From: tombipeck@talktalk.net > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:33:41 +0100 > CC: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com; south-africa-immigrants-british@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Photograph of 5th Field, 13 Battery. > > I've found another photograph taken during my father's Service. > > The photograph is not dated. > > I do not know if it was taken in Carolina before they went up North or in North Africa itself. > > My father was No. 1777787V. A Bombadier in the 1/16 Battery 1/6 Field Regiment, South African Army. > > Back Row left to right standing: Edgar Goldblum, Herbert Mills, Ken McIntyre, George Burridge, Ralph Dees, Jack Peyper, Les Richards > > 2nd Row seated. Lt. Hunt, Captain Carter, Lt. Lundberg, Captain Ryan, 2nd Lt. McDonald, Shorty Pinshaw and standing Hopkins > > Seated on the ground: Stucki, Diffenthal, Alec Griffiths (ex 5th Field 13 Battery). > > I presume the last comment in brackets refers to Alec Griffiths. > > If anyone would like a copy of the photograph please contact me off list. > Best wishes, > Tombi Peck > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello My first time on this list. I am looking for a marriage in Swellendam before 1850 - maybe 1848 or 1849, which doesn't seem to be on Ancestry 24. Charles SCOTT m Appeline BURTON Also the birth/baptism of their first child in Swellendam - Eliza SCOTT born approx 1849, 1850 Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Regards Dianne Butcher

AND CHRISTENINGS In St.George's Church on Monday 14th December by the Rev Geo. Hough MA: A daughter of Mr. Edward Brown KIRTON, baptised Amelia Dinah. A daughter of Mr. William PRESTWICH, baptised Ellen Deborah. On Monday 21st Dec by the same: A son of Mr. George WILSON, baptised Ricahrd Crewe. A daughter of Mr. William EDWARDS, baptised Dorothea Johanna. A daughter of Robert DEEKER, baptised Susan Ann. In St.george's Church, Wynberg on Sunday 13th Dec by the Rev Dr Okes: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather MacAlister - Ancestry 24" <heather@ancestry24.co.za> To: <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Robert Joseph Deeker Hi Gary You can get a copy of the Roberts marriage certificate (transcript) for free on www.ancestry24.co.za http://ancestry24.com/search-item/?id=C295116. Unfortunately birth registration was not compulsory in the Cape until 1895 so unfortunately you won't find a copy of her birth certificate Hope this helps Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Channel Manager E heather@ancestry24.co.za T +27 (021) 468 8957 F +27 (0)86 5810390 Join us on Facebook twitter.com/ancestry24 | Skype: ancestry24 7th Floor , 11 Adderley Street, Cape Town, 8000 | www.ancestry24.co.za -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gary clough Sent: 10 April 2012 11:23 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Robert Joseph Deeker Robert Joseph Deeker and Hannah Clark, These are my gt gt g'parents and from what I can find were both born in England (Robt abt 1812 in London, Hannah in Warwickshire abt 1808) and married in Cape Town in abt 1830, They had 10 children there before moving to Victoria, Aust in 1853. I am particularly interested in getting a copy of their marriage cert and their dtr Annie's birth cert (my gt g'mother). She was born abt 1843 in Cape Town. These certs partly to establish the spelling of their names - there has been some uncertainty about it being Deeker or Decker, and also if they have more about their background. Any dates are approx, because the only source is their death certs in Victoria. I would like to know about their life in SA to get a more complete idea of them. Any help or guidance would be great. Garry Clough in Victoria, Aust ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And MARRIAGE In St.George's Church Cape Town on Monday Aug 24 by the Rev George Hough MA, Senior Colonial Chaplain: R. DEEKER to H. CLARKE. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather MacAlister - Ancestry 24" <heather@ancestry24.co.za> To: <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Robert Joseph Deeker Hi Gary You can get a copy of the Roberts marriage certificate (transcript) for free on www.ancestry24.co.za http://ancestry24.com/search-item/?id=C295116. Unfortunately birth registration was not compulsory in the Cape until 1895 so unfortunately you won't find a copy of her birth certificate Hope this helps Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Channel Manager E heather@ancestry24.co.za T +27 (021) 468 8957 F +27 (0)86 5810390 Join us on Facebook twitter.com/ancestry24 | Skype: ancestry24 7th Floor , 11 Adderley Street, Cape Town, 8000 | www.ancestry24.co.za -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gary clough Sent: 10 April 2012 11:23 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Robert Joseph Deeker Robert Joseph Deeker and Hannah Clark, These are my gt gt g'parents and from what I can find were both born in England (Robt abt 1812 in London, Hannah in Warwickshire abt 1808) and married in Cape Town in abt 1830, They had 10 children there before moving to Victoria, Aust in 1853. I am particularly interested in getting a copy of their marriage cert and their dtr Annie's birth cert (my gt g'mother). She was born abt 1843 in Cape Town. These certs partly to establish the spelling of their names - there has been some uncertainty about it being Deeker or Decker, and also if they have more about their background. Any dates are approx, because the only source is their death certs in Victoria. I would like to know about their life in SA to get a more complete idea of them. Any help or guidance would be great. Garry Clough in Victoria, Aust ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

AND Wednesday 22 June 1842 MARRIAGE In St.George's Church on Monday the 20th June by the Rev George Hough MA: John Cornelius WILLENBURG to Elisabeth Johanna KERBEY CHRISTENINGS In St.George's Church on Monday the 20th June by the Rev George Hough MA: A son of Andries G.H. L'Amour DE MANIELLY, baptised Andries Fransous Josephus. A daughter of Robert DEEKER baptised Frances Susannah. A daughter of John Benjamin MIDDELKOOP, baptised Frances Ellen Jane. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather MacAlister - Ancestry 24" <heather@ancestry24.co.za> To: <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Robert Joseph Deeker Hi Gary You can get a copy of the Roberts marriage certificate (transcript) for free on www.ancestry24.co.za http://ancestry24.com/search-item/?id=C295116. Unfortunately birth registration was not compulsory in the Cape until 1895 so unfortunately you won't find a copy of her birth certificate Hope this helps Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Channel Manager E heather@ancestry24.co.za T +27 (021) 468 8957 F +27 (0)86 5810390 Join us on Facebook twitter.com/ancestry24 | Skype: ancestry24 7th Floor , 11 Adderley Street, Cape Town, 8000 | www.ancestry24.co.za -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gary clough Sent: 10 April 2012 11:23 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Robert Joseph Deeker Robert Joseph Deeker and Hannah Clark, These are my gt gt g'parents and from what I can find were both born in England (Robt abt 1812 in London, Hannah in Warwickshire abt 1808) and married in Cape Town in abt 1830, They had 10 children there before moving to Victoria, Aust in 1853. I am particularly interested in getting a copy of their marriage cert and their dtr Annie's birth cert (my gt g'mother). She was born abt 1843 in Cape Town. These certs partly to establish the spelling of their names - there has been some uncertainty about it being Deeker or Decker, and also if they have more about their background. Any dates are approx, because the only source is their death certs in Victoria. I would like to know about their life in SA to get a more complete idea of them. Any help or guidance would be great. Garry Clough in Victoria, Aust ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Also Saturday 18 August 1838 MARRIED By Special Licence On Wednesday the 15th August by the Rev George Hough MA, Senior Colonial Chaplain: Ludwig PAPPE Esq MD to Mrs. mary BAM, Widow. CHRISTENINGS In St.George's Church Cape Town on Monday the 13th August by ditto: A daughter of Mr. James BUTLER Jun, baptised Annette. A daughter of Mr. Henry WRIGHT, baptised Elizabeth Isabella Mary. A son of Mr. George WILSON, baptised George David. A daughter of Mr. Benjamin WIGLESWORTH, baptised Amelia Ann. Two children of Mr. John McLACHLAN, baptised Cornelia Mara and Jacob Frederick. Two children of Robert DEEKER, baptised Robert Joseph and Hannah. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather MacAlister - Ancestry 24" <heather@ancestry24.co.za> To: <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Robert Joseph Deeker Hi Gary You can get a copy of the Roberts marriage certificate (transcript) for free on www.ancestry24.co.za http://ancestry24.com/search-item/?id=C295116. Unfortunately birth registration was not compulsory in the Cape until 1895 so unfortunately you won't find a copy of her birth certificate Hope this helps Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Channel Manager E heather@ancestry24.co.za T +27 (021) 468 8957 F +27 (0)86 5810390 Join us on Facebook twitter.com/ancestry24 | Skype: ancestry24 7th Floor , 11 Adderley Street, Cape Town, 8000 | www.ancestry24.co.za -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gary clough Sent: 10 April 2012 11:23 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Robert Joseph Deeker Robert Joseph Deeker and Hannah Clark, These are my gt gt g'parents and from what I can find were both born in England (Robt abt 1812 in London, Hannah in Warwickshire abt 1808) and married in Cape Town in abt 1830, They had 10 children there before moving to Victoria, Aust in 1853. I am particularly interested in getting a copy of their marriage cert and their dtr Annie's birth cert (my gt g'mother). She was born abt 1843 in Cape Town. These certs partly to establish the spelling of their names - there has been some uncertainty about it being Deeker or Decker, and also if they have more about their background. Any dates are approx, because the only source is their death certs in Victoria. I would like to know about their life in SA to get a more complete idea of them. Any help or guidance would be great. Garry Clough in Victoria, Aust ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Heather! I'll look through those sites and see what I can find. regards, Barry