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    1. [SOUTH-AFRICA] 1858/59 German immigration to SA

    3. Good Morning all, from a very wet Cape Town, My g-g-gfather August Hermann GEBHARDT came out on the first immigrant ship from Hamburg. I understand from comments on the Lists that the agent who was then transporting these settlers, Godeffroy and Sons, was declared insolvent many years ago and that their records are possibly stored in Hamburg. Would any Lister know if this is true and if copies of the actual contracts signed by the individual settlers actually exist either in Hamburg, Cape Town Archives or possibly in a UK Archives? I am trying to trace a copy of the contract signed by my g-g-gfather. Any assistance would be appreciated, as I am sure aother researchers would also like to find theirs. Regards, Rod g From:[email protected] Sent:2013/11/13 08:40:24 AM To:[email protected], [email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected] Cc: Subject:RE: [ZA-IB] German immigration to SA Hello Lister I need to find lists of any german immigration to SA between 1858 to 1881. I am trying to locate the ship my gggranfather was on when he landed in SA. His death notice says he was born in Germany but his nationality was British so I am assuming he became British when he landed in SA. My gggranfather name was William Frederick Smith. Any information would be appreciated. Kind regards Renold Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ------------------------------- All messages to the list must be sent in plain text. ------------------------------- When you reply to a message, please MAKE SURE that you DELETE the quoted text, signature, and end material that is not pertinent to your reply. ------------------------------- When you reply to a message, please make sure that you Change the Subject of the message as needed. If you are replying to a Digest, this is a MUST DO. ------------------------------- For searching the list archives and other list information, please go to http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Immigration/SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRANTS-BRITISH.html ------------------------------- To contact the TMG List Administrator, send a message to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN

    11/16/2013 03:26:55
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] 1858/59 German immigration to SA
    2. Colin Möhr

    3. Dear Rod, I too have been searching for these records. Someone mentioned that there was a Godeffroy museum in Germany but I know not where. Colin Mohr ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:26 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] 1858/59 German immigration to SA > Good Morning all, from a very wet Cape Town, > > My g-g-gfather August Hermann GEBHARDT came out on the first immigrant > ship from Hamburg. I understand from comments on the Lists that the agent > who was then transporting these settlers, Godeffroy and Sons, was declared > insolvent many years ago and that their records are possibly stored in > Hamburg. > > > Would any Lister know if this is true and if copies of the actual > contracts signed by the individual settlers actually exist either in > Hamburg, Cape Town Archives or possibly in a UK Archives? > > I am trying to trace a copy of the contract signed by my g-g-gfather. Any > assistance would be appreciated, as I am sure aother researchers would > also like to find theirs. > > Regards, > > Rod g > From:[email protected] > Sent:2013/11/13 08:40:24 AM > To:[email protected], > [email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected] > Cc: > Subject:RE: [ZA-IB] German immigration to SA Hello Lister > > I need to find lists of any german immigration to SA between 1858 to 1881. > I am trying to locate the ship my gggranfather was on when he landed in > SA. His death notice says he was born in Germany but his nationality was > British so I am assuming he became British when he landed in SA. My > gggranfather name was William Frederick Smith. > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Kind regards > Renold > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > ------------------------------- > All messages to the list must be sent in plain text. > ------------------------------- > When you reply to a message, please MAKE SURE that you DELETE the quoted > text, signature, and end material that is not pertinent to your reply. > ------------------------------- > When you reply to a message, please make sure that you Change the Subject > of the message as needed. If you are replying to a Digest, this is a MUST > DO. > ------------------------------- > For searching the list archives and other list information, please go to > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Immigration/SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRANTS-BRITISH.html > ------------------------------- > To contact the TMG List Administrator, send a message to > [email protected]otsweb.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/16/2013 05:30:25
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] 1858/59 German immigration to SA
    2. Andrew Rodger

    3. On 16 Nov 2013, at 9:30 PM, Colin Möhr wrote: > Dear Rod, > I too have been searching for these records. Someone mentioned that > there > was a Godeffroy museum in Germany but I know not where. > Colin Mohr Google it. It appears to have become defunct, largely as a result of the demise of its founder, a wealthy Hamburg merchant of that name, around 1881, and its collections dispersed to a number of other museums in Germany and beyond. It seems to have contained principally geographical, natural history and ethnographical collections, at last one of which (butterflies) is in the State Museum, Melbourne, while others are in Cambridge, Leyden and a number of other European museums. The areas from which the specimens came were mainly Australia, South-East Asia and Oceania. Andrew Rodger [email protected]

    11/18/2013 07:56:20
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] 1858/59 German immigration to SA
    2. Richard Ball

    3. Hello Rod, Saturday, November 16, 2013 you wrote: rtcz> My g-g-gfather August Hermann GEBHARDT came out on the first rtcz> immigrant ship from Hamburg. I understand from comments on the rtcz> Lists that the agent who was then transporting these settlers, rtcz> Godeffroy and Sons, was declared insolvent many years ago and rtcz> that their records are possibly stored in Hamburg. You don't mention a date. I have no knowledge of these ships but have you tried: http://www.safrika.org/schiff_en.html Richard -- Richard Ball, Norfolk, England http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk [email protected]

    11/16/2013 07:36:05