Ken, My point was simply that this statement is incorrect: > The [van Rheede van Oudtshoorn] family is a specific Oudtshoorn family > that married into van Rheede family etc. and that there is also a separate, unrelated, Oudshoorn family. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 05:08:24 PM EST From: "Bart Simon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Danie (?) van Oudtshoorn (?) [!!!} Thank you for the reply. I always read your posts. I am looking for a very specific person. His first name given elsewhere was 'Donie' and then 'Dornie', which I am assuming is probably 'Danie'. The [van Rheede van Oudtshoorn] family is a specific Oudtshoorn family that married into van Rheede family etc. I do not know if he is part of that vRvO family. This person I am calling Danie van Oudtshoorn, was probably b:1930-1937 or so, probably South Africa. 1958: Probably living in (Lusaka?) Zambia or thereabouts, a mechanic there. I am stuck on this one, can everybody help here ?. B.S. ========================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message