Remember the job title, "clerk"? In those days there were at least two registers, one kept contemporaneously and one or more handwritten copies forwarded to the diocese, etc. In the DRC registers I have found in some cases three copies. The real original has bad handwriting and is written in different hands depending on the officiating minister. The copies are in one hand, usually with more legible script. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 04:10:18 PM EST From: "Bart Simon" <[email protected]> To: "RW RSA" <[email protected]> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] DUPLICATE ORIGINAL REGISTER [!!!] Hello: For a Natal [DUPLICATE ORIGINAL REGISTER (Marriage Abt.1920)]: Sorry for my ignorance, what is the difference between a Marriage Register and the [DUPLICATE ORIGINAL REGISTER (Marriage Abt.1920)] ?. The DOR has all the “In the Presence of ....” signatures etc., but also form printed with “Examined with the Original Register by me and found to be correct” .... signed by whoever. How does this work ?. The printed title of the form is [DUPLICATE ORIGINAL REGISTER]. B.S. ================================ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello: Thanks Keith: I have just sent you the specific DOR off-list for viewing. It is confusing to question this DOR the first time round. It looks almost like an original marriage entry in some register, EVEN with SIGNATURES "In the presence of ..." section. But in the whole central area of the paper, it looks like it is written by the same hand and style of writing. Maybe even the rest of the document ?. Q1: So did the "Clerk" reproduce the signatures as well ?. i.e. [This marriage was solemnised between us...] and [In the presence of ...] ???. Is the "Clerk" imitating all the signatures ???. Q2: If these are handwritten duplicates, then it is no wonder that there WILL be errors !!!. If the ["REAL ORIGINAL HAS BAD HANDWRITING"] then a person's age at marriage for one single item could be wrong !!!. Even if ONLY that one single item was faded and re-written incorrectly... [The real original has bad handwriting and is written in different hands depending on the officiating minister. The copies are in one hand, usually with more legible script.]. Surely.... this must be point of concern when trying to trace exact dates, people, persons, and trees, etc. ?. So these images online here, are "Clerk" transcripts from an original entry ?. With forced errors as such. One truly needs to VIEW THE ORIGINAL document to ascertain what the dates should or could in fact be ?. The best guess given throughout the DOR for the reading of faded handwriting.... The original of the item I am viewing has some chance to be say FADED over his age of marriage. One would only know this if one viewed the original record !!!. B.S. ==================================== -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] DUPLICATE ORIGINAL REGISTER [!!!] Remember the job title, "clerk"?. In those days there were at least two registers, one kept contemporaneously and one or more handwritten copies forwarded to the diocese, etc. In the DRC registers I have found in some cases three copies. The real original has bad handwriting and is written in different hands depending on the officiating minister. The copies are in one hand, usually with more legible script. Keith. ------ Original Message ------ Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] DUPLICATE ORIGINAL REGISTER [!!!] Hello: For a Natal [DUPLICATE ORIGINAL REGISTER (Marriage Abt.1920)]: Sorry for my ignorance, what is the difference between a Marriage Register and the [DUPLICATE ORIGINAL REGISTER (Marriage Abt.1920)] ?. The DOR has all the “In the Presence of ....” signatures etc., but also form printed with “Examined with the Original Register by me and found to be correct” .... signed by whoever. How does this work ?. The printed title of the form is [DUPLICATE ORIGINAL REGISTER]. B.S. ================================ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Meaning: Contemporaneously: During the same period of time or possibly a little later.... -----Original Message----- From: Keith Meintjes Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] DUPLICATE ORIGINAL REGISTER [!!!] In those days there were at least two registers, one kept contemporaneously and one or more handwritten copies forwarded to the diocese, etc.