I have a small photograph of Johannesburg taken in 1890.....another is a panoramic photograph which just says 'Johannesburg Gold Mine' I have several other interesting old photographs of Johannesburg....l had 15 photographs of the old Primrose Mine including massed photographs of the miners, but unfortunately this computer has a tendency to sometimes 'eat' photographs....it obviously didn't like that collection. I also have old photographs of Durban and the Cape Town area as well should anyone be interested. Best wishes, Tombi Peck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Early Witwatersrand gold mines. > Hi all! > With all the kind responses, I could probably do that! Thank you to > everyone- now we just have to place them! For me it is very relevant as I > do > not know JHB very well at all- and very little about the mining- my mom > immigrated to Durban in the late 1930's and although the TVL family used > to > come down on holiday- we very rarely went up to see them [for obvious > reasons!] I lived in Sandton for 10 years and only went into JHB proper > twice!!!! Bev > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Pretorius > Sent: 18 February 2014 09:06 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Early Witwatersrand gold mines. > > Hallo All > > Maybe someone would like to record all the Gold Mines - and maybe diamond > and coal mines as well - and store that somewhere on a website ? > > Any offers ? > > > Kind regards. > > > > Dennis Pretorius > Krugersdorp South Africa > Tel - 011-762-8911 > Cel - 083-679-8541 > Fax - 086-609-8541 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Irene de Villiers > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 3:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Early Witwatersrand gold mines. > > > On Feb 18, 2014, at 1:37 AM, Bev wrote: > >> Is there a source which lists the names of the mines [not the mining >> companies] and where exactly they were situated? Perhaps a map? >> >>> From what I can gather, [from death notices] although the men worked >>> on the >> mines, they did not necessarily live in mine houses? >> >> Thank you! Bev > > > Bev I do not know how much I coud help, but I lived on a gold mine and my > dad, and his dad were mine officials. The largest company of gold mines > was > Anglo American of South Africa and I know the names of the AASA GOLD mines > of the 1900s if that helps? > > I grew up at Western Reefs mine, a new one which was started by my dad and > 16 others, in 1953 in Orkney, on the Vaal river, about 100 miles SSW of > Jo'burg. It had three shafts (one way to measure a mine's size is how many > shafts took miners up and down). > Then came Vaal Reefs, in a town of same name, a few miles away, and later > those two were both called Vaal Reefs, a huge mining area with 11 shafts. > Klerksdorp is about 8 miles north of Orkney and the largest town in that > area. It was also a gold mine but was closed down, emptied, by the time > Western Reefs was started. > The underground mine workings went all over the place, under Stilfontein > town, Westdriefontein, Orkney, Vaal Reefs, Vierfonteyn, and Klerksdorp, > these all being towns that were developed above the extensive mining > operations and eventually it was all called Vaalk reefs, but the original > mines were these town names plus Western Reefs and minus Orkney. Orkney > was > never a mine name. Western Reefs mine was in Orkney. (Underground railways > connected it all down there - so while there were all these discrete towns > up top, it was all a big connected area of mining operations underground, > and at several levels.) > > As for housing, that was a company policy matter. Anglo did offer its > workers housing, and you got a house with a size and shape according to > the > job you did. You had to pay rent of two rand a month, just to make rental > official that you did not own the house. BUT - when you retired or left, > you had to leave the house and so it was smart to plan to buy one at > retirement elsewhere. > Black workers were housed in apartment style buildings, one for each > tribal > custom group, with vegetable gardens per culture, and entertainment > ampitheatres per cultural group. Workers were made up in teams of ten who > spoke the same language. There were an average of fifty languages spoken > on > one mine as workers came from all over Africa to work on mines. They did 2 > weeks above ground training on arrival, including intensive safety and > first > aid training, while thery acclimatized to the altitude of 6000 feet or > more. > > > (I am convinced the apartheid idea was taken from the very effective mine > system where workers had a choice of what language/culture group housing > to > use. But of course the govt made a total controlling mess of things with > forced compliance instead of free choice and.......best I shall leave that > subject....) > > Further south in Orange Free State, Welkom area, was a cluster of mines > named: > Freddies > Free State Geduld > President Brand > Saaiplaas > President Steyn > Western Holdings > Joel > > > And further north circling Johannesburg (now Gauteng) the mines: > Western Deep Levels (East Levels) > Western Deep Levels (Levels West) > Western Deep Levels (Levels South) > Elandsrand > > > Those were Anglo mines and there were others but those I rememeber less > about. > Carletonville mine of course was famous because of sinkholes there. > East Rand Mine is at Boxburg. > East of the western Deep Levels mines is East Rand mine and still more > east, > Evander mine. > > Earliest GOLD mines were at Pilgrim's Rest and Barberton, after which the > Witwatersrand gold reef was discovered.......all those ANglo mines > followed > from the 1886 gold rush. > > > DIAMOND MINES > > They started 1867 with diamonds on the Orange River bank, Kimberley > developed as a centre where you can still see the "Big Hole" > In the mid to late 1800s many people staked claims in the area, and each > owned their little claim area. > The van der Merwe joke about the later develpment of one giant digging at > Kimberley, was that VdM won the local biggest carrot grown that year > competition, but explained the carrot was too big to bring along to show > people. However, they could go see the big hole it came out of.... > > Diamonds were also found near Johannesburg at Cullinan mine. > > > OTHER MINES > > SA has uranium mines (esp at Western Reefs, now Vaal Reefs) coal mines > (low > sulphur which is low pollution coal), vanadium, platinum manganese > zirconium > rutile and the list goes on. > Do you know what kind of mining names you need? > I hope you find what you nede. I thought this might be a starting place. > > Namaste, > Irene > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. > P.O. 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Hi Tombi I would be very interested in seeing your old Durban photographs. Are you prepared to share them off list? Adrian Kloof, Durban -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tombi Peck Sent: 19 February 2014 02:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Early Witwatersrand gold mines. I have a small photograph of Johannesburg taken in 1890.....another is a panoramic photograph which just says 'Johannesburg Gold Mine' I have several other interesting old photographs of Johannesburg....l had 15 photographs of the old Primrose Mine including massed photographs of the miners, but unfortunately this computer has a tendency to sometimes 'eat' photographs....it obviously didn't like that collection. I also have old photographs of Durban and the Cape Town area as well should anyone be interested. Best wishes, Tombi Peck

>From SA history online - Gold Reef City is a re-creation of turn-of-the-century Johannesburg, which was flooded by prospectors after the discovery of gold in 1886. With its Victorian houses and geological displays, it offers many fascinating insights into life in Johannesburg long before the technological age. In the centre of Gold Reef City stands Shaft No 14, opened in 1887 and closed after 84 years of operation in 1971. Shaft 14 - of what mine? Joy --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi All, I have a collection of post cards of early Durban and natal as well as other parts of SA. You can see all my post cards posted on: www.eggsa.org On top of the page go to: - Contents - Library - Post Cards - South Africa Take care Glynis -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Milly & Adrian Rowe Sent: 19 February 2014 02:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Early Witwatersrand gold mines. Hi Tombi I would be very interested in seeing your old Durban photographs. Are you prepared to share them off list? Adrian Kloof, Durban -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tombi Peck Sent: 19 February 2014 02:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Early Witwatersrand gold mines. I have a small photograph of Johannesburg taken in 1890.....another is a panoramic photograph which just says 'Johannesburg Gold Mine' I have several other interesting old photographs of Johannesburg....l had 15 photographs of the old Primrose Mine including massed photographs of the miners, but unfortunately this computer has a tendency to sometimes 'eat' photographs....it obviously didn't like that collection. I also have old photographs of Durban and the Cape Town area as well should anyone be interested. Best wishes, Tombi Peck ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I really enjoyed all this info on early Johannesburg. Part of my Alberts family lived on a farm called Waterval outside of Johannesburg. Most of the farm was sold off for development at the end of 1800's. Places like Sophiatown, Alberts kroon, Albertsville were part of the farm. The Alberts Farm Nature Reserve was part of it too and my great grand mother Alida Susanna Alberts was buried there. I would appreciate any information about this farm. I have 2 photo albums dating back to 1920 and I am writing the story around them. kind Regards Magda On 19 February 2014 15:47, glynis <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a collection of post cards of early Durban and natal as well as other > parts of SA. > > You can see all my post cards posted on: > > www.eggsa.org > > On top of the page go to: > - Contents > - Library > - Post Cards > - South Africa > > Take care > Glynis > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Milly & Adrian Rowe > Sent: 19 February 2014 02:58 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Early Witwatersrand gold mines. > > Hi Tombi > I would be very interested in seeing your old Durban photographs. Are you > prepared to share them off list? > Adrian > Kloof, Durban > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tombi Peck > Sent: 19 February 2014 02:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Early Witwatersrand gold mines. > > I have a small photograph of Johannesburg taken in 1890.....another is a > panoramic photograph which just says 'Johannesburg Gold Mine' > I have several other interesting old photographs of Johannesburg....l had 15 > photographs of the old Primrose Mine including massed photographs of the > miners, but unfortunately this computer has a tendency to sometimes 'eat' > photographs....it obviously didn't like that collection. > I also have old photographs of Durban and the Cape Town area as well should > anyone be interested. > Best wishes, > Tombi Peck > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message