On 14 Feb 2014 at 20:29, Magda Begeman wrote: > I am helping a friend tracing his ancestors. We are both fairly new to > this and would appreciate your help. His grandfather was Thomas > Poudfoot, born circa 1868. He married Anna Alida Cecilia Van Der Walt > on Oct 28 1889 in Fauresmith, Free State, South Africa.He resided in > Jagersfontein. He was a prisoner of war during the Anglo Boer War. We > would appreciate help in tracing the ancestors back to them arriving > in South Africa. One of the ancestors was a saddle maker in > Swellendam. I don't have anything that would help directly, but this may be a cousin or something, and so could provide some indirect clues: Family Group Report For: Theresa Clara Watson (ID= 1252) Date Prepared: 18 Feb 2014 NAME: WATSON, Theresa Clara, Born ??? 1839? in England, Died 17 Jun 1931 in Ealing, London at age 92; FATHER: WATSON, John Ross Malcolm, Born ??? 1826, Died ???; MOTHER: WEAVER, Helena Anne, Born ??? 1827, Died ??? MARRIED Jan 1881, to PROUDFOOT, Thomas Gillespie, Born ??? 1846 in Port Elizabeth, Died 5 Oct 1888 in Durban at age 42; FATHER: PROUDFOOT, Thomas Gillespie; MOTHER: LUM, Jessie Mary; MSCE Vol 7 167/1888 (Natal Archives) MARRIED Apr 1860 in Winburg, Free State, to BENINGFIELD, Frederick William, Born 13 Feb 1836 in Cape Town, Died 9 Aug 1873 in Inhambane, Mocambique at age 37; FATHER: BENNINGFIELD, Samuel, Born 22 Sep 1802, Died 1 Jul 1874 at age 71; MOTHER: FLAMME, Johanna Louisa Christina, Born 16 Apr 1814, Died 4 Dec 1880 at age 66; Eloped from Ladysmith on 16 Apr 1860, married with Special Licence from Bloemfontein.; Private, Greytown Mounted Rifles 1865 Went to diamond fields, and later he lived at Bethlehem. On hunting/trading expedition with brother Reuben when killed in a fall from a horse. Eloped with Theresa and his mother-inlaw and her lover from Ladysmith. CHILDREN: 1. F PROUDFOOT, Amy Patricia 2. F PROUDFOOT, Jessie Verona 3. M BENINGFIELD, Samuel Ross Thomas, born 5 May 1861 in Durban, died 13 Mar 1910 in TVL, Pretoria Dist.; Married Jan 1891 to DE VILLIERS, Alice Maud Huskisson 4. F BENINGFIELD, Annie Louisa, born 12 Mar 1863 in Ladysmith, died ??? 5. F BENINGFIELD, Edith Theresa Evangeline, born 22 Apr 1865 in Greytown, Natal, died 2 Apr 1943 in Pietermaritzburg; Married Apr 1932 to GANNON, John 6. F BENINGFIELD, Annie Theresa (Francis), born 13 Oct 1867 in Greytown, Natal, died 27 Apr 1950 in Kokstad; Married Sep 1886 to RAW, Herbert Maughan; 7 children 7. F BENINGFIELD, Maud, born ??? 1870, died ??? It could not be this Thomas PROUDFOOT, as he died before the Anglo-Boer War, but there is quite an interesting story here. They were living in Ladysmith, and Samuel Beningfield junior eloped with Proudfoot's wife to the Free State, where they got married (bigamously, I presume). Her mother and her lover also eloped with them. -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Blog: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm E-mail: [email protected]

Thank you for this interesting bit of info. They seem to be an interesting family full of funny and strange happenings. There was also a relative who was an elephant hunter in Natal. Kind Regards, Magda On Feb 18, 2014 5:51 AM, "Steve Hayes" <[email protected]> wrote: > On 14 Feb 2014 at 20:29, Magda Begeman wrote: > > > I am helping a friend tracing his ancestors. We are both fairly new to > > this and would appreciate your help. His grandfather was Thomas > > Poudfoot, born circa 1868. He married Anna Alida Cecilia Van Der Walt > > on Oct 28 1889 in Fauresmith, Free State, South Africa.He resided in > > Jagersfontein. He was a prisoner of war during the Anglo Boer War. We > > would appreciate help in tracing the ancestors back to them arriving > > in South Africa. One of the ancestors was a saddle maker in > > Swellendam. > > I don't have anything that would help directly, but this may be a cousin or > something, and so could provide some indirect clues: > > Family Group Report > For: Theresa Clara Watson (ID= 1252) > Date Prepared: 18 Feb 2014 > > NAME: WATSON, Theresa Clara, Born ??? 1839? in England, Died 17 > Jun 1931 in Ealing, London at age 92; FATHER: WATSON, John > Ross Malcolm, Born ??? 1826, Died ???; MOTHER: WEAVER, Helena > Anne, Born ??? 1827, Died ??? > > MARRIED Jan 1881, to PROUDFOOT, Thomas Gillespie, Born ??? 1846 > in Port Elizabeth, Died 5 Oct 1888 in Durban at age 42; > FATHER: PROUDFOOT, Thomas Gillespie; MOTHER: LUM, Jessie Mary; > MSCE Vol 7 167/1888 (Natal Archives) > > MARRIED Apr 1860 in Winburg, Free State, to BENINGFIELD, > Frederick William, Born 13 Feb 1836 in Cape Town, Died 9 Aug > 1873 in Inhambane, Mocambique at age 37; FATHER: BENNINGFIELD, > Samuel, Born 22 Sep 1802, Died 1 Jul 1874 at age 71; MOTHER: > FLAMME, Johanna Louisa Christina, Born 16 Apr 1814, Died 4 Dec > 1880 at age 66; Eloped from Ladysmith on 16 Apr 1860, married > with Special Licence from Bloemfontein.; Private, Greytown > Mounted Rifles 1865 Went to diamond fields, and later he > lived at Bethlehem. On hunting/trading expedition with brother > Reuben when killed in a fall from a horse. Eloped with Theresa > and his mother-inlaw and her lover from Ladysmith. > > CHILDREN: > 1. F PROUDFOOT, Amy Patricia > 2. F PROUDFOOT, Jessie Verona > 3. M BENINGFIELD, Samuel Ross Thomas, born 5 May 1861 in > Durban, died 13 Mar 1910 in TVL, Pretoria Dist.; Married > Jan 1891 to DE VILLIERS, Alice Maud Huskisson > 4. F BENINGFIELD, Annie Louisa, born 12 Mar 1863 in Ladysmith, > died ??? > 5. F BENINGFIELD, Edith Theresa Evangeline, born 22 Apr 1865 > in Greytown, Natal, died 2 Apr 1943 in Pietermaritzburg; > Married Apr 1932 to GANNON, John > 6. F BENINGFIELD, Annie Theresa (Francis), born 13 Oct 1867 in > Greytown, Natal, died 27 Apr 1950 in Kokstad; Married Sep > 1886 to RAW, Herbert Maughan; 7 children > 7. F BENINGFIELD, Maud, born ??? 1870, died ??? > > It could not be this Thomas PROUDFOOT, as he died before the Anglo-Boer > War, > but there is quite an interesting story here. They were living in > Ladysmith, > and Samuel Beningfield junior eloped with Proudfoot's wife to the Free > State, > where they got married (bigamously, I presume). Her mother and her lover > also > eloped with them. > > > -- > Keep well, > Steve Hayes > Blog: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com > Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm > E-mail: [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It takes me a while to absorb some things. I just noticed the Watson info was not sent by you. Not sure yet if this family connects to the other just yet.... === DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 60550 PART 1 DESCRIPTION PROUDFOOT, THOMAS. STARTING 1926 ENDING 1926 REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE ANNA ALIDA CECILIA PROUDFOOT (BORN VAN DER WALT). === DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 69556 PART 1 DESCRIPTION PROUDFOOT, ANNA ALIDA CECILIA. STARTING 1929 ENDING 1929 === The [Thomas Proudfoot] who m. [Anna Alida Cecilia Van Der Walt] d:1926 [TAB=Transvaal]. She d:1929 !!!. === http://www.southafricansettlers.com/?p=7524 B.S. ============================================ -----Original Message----- His grandfather was Thomas Poudfoot, born circa 1868. He married Anna Alida Cecilia Van Der Walt on Oct 28 1889 in Fauresmith, Free State, South Africa. He resided in Jagersfontein. He was a prisoner of war during the Anglo Boer War. We would appreciate help in tracing the ancestors back to them arriving in South Africa. One of the ancestors was a saddle maker in Swellendam.

=== I can forward the photo if one wants it. I suspect this is the same persons buried in the Primrose Cemetery ?. From double grave headstone: WILLEM PETRUS PROUDFOOT 1918-1973 ISABELLA SUSANNA PROUDFOOT *18.7.1920 +15.6.1985 [Her maiden name is probably HORN ?]. === DEPOT TAB SOURCETPD TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM01 REFERENCE 5481/1972 PART 1 DESCRIPTION ILLIQUID CASE. DIVORCE. BELLIE SUSANNA PROUDFOOT VERSUS WILLEM PETRUS PROUDFOOT. STARTING 1972 ENDING 1972 === http://www.ancestor.co.za/search_beta.asp Type in PROUDFOOT. See both pages !!!. The first date for one Thomas Proudfoot is 1872. === DEPOT TAB SOURCE SS TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE R12402/97 PART 1 DESCRIPTION WEESHEER, PRETORIA. LEGALISATIE EEN DOCUMENT T PROUDFOOT. STARTING 18970825 ENDING 18970825 === There is a Thomas Proudfoot whose wife is Jessie. He d:1872. -----Original Message----- >>> His grandfather was Thomas Poudfoot, born circa 1868. He married Anna >>> Alida Cecilia Van Der Walt on Oct 28 1889 in Fauresmith, Free State, >>> South Africa. He resided in Jagersfontein. He was a prisoner of war >>> during the Anglo Boer War. One of the ancestors was a saddle maker in >>> Swellendam. NAME: WATSON, Theresa Clara, Born ??? 1839? in England, Died 17 Jun 1931 in Ealing, London at age 92; FATHER: WATSON, John Ross Malcolm, Born ??? 1826, Died ???; MOTHER: WEAVER, Helena Anne, Born ??? 1827, Died ??? MARRIED Jan 1881, to PROUDFOOT, Thomas Gillespie, Born ??? 1846 in Port Elizabeth, Died 5 Oct 1888 in Durban at age 42; FATHER: PROUDFOOT, Thomas Gillespie; MOTHER: LUM, Jessie Mary; MSCE Vol 7 167/1888 (Natal Archives) *** The above Jessie Mary LUM is probably LUNN !!!. === DEPOT Genealogical Society of SA. DESCRIPTION Proudfoot, MA - Gravestone. STARTING 0000 ENDING 18970223 REMARKS Cemetery between railway lines at Langlaagte, Johannesburg, Gauteng. SUMMARY + Mary Ann Proudfoot. Died 23-02-1897 in Johannesburg, Gauteng. Aged 35 years. Wife of Thomas Proudfoot. === http://www.eggsa.org/cgi-bin/library/searchGraves.pl Type in "PROUDFOOT" and press enter. T. PROUDFOOT: http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1011153 *** Five Proudfoots buried together: http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=50510 http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1004317 http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1993153 === B.S. ===