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    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] FW: Family name George Albert Lloyd, Churchhaven
    2. Bart Simon via
    3. Hello: That info is for one George Ellis Lloyd: <<< This is the only estate for 1916 for an George Lloyd: [DEPOT KAB; DESCRIPTION LLOYD, GEORGE ELLIS. DEATH NOTICE; STARTING 1916 ENDING 1916] >>>. === DEPOT KAB DESCRIPTION HISTORICAL INFORMATION. MISCELLANEOUS ENQUIRIES BY THE PUBLIC. AMERICAN SAILOR GEORGE ALBERT LLOYD. === George Arrived in Table Bay on a Yankee clipper 7 months before the arrival of the Alabama. d:1916. b:1842 Hudson, New York. A sister wrote a letter saying 'George left home for a sea voyage in 1858 when he was 16 years old (I was 8 years old) we had a civil war and he never returned home'. >>> Some things don't add up: 1858-16=1842, what DoB do you have for GAL (14-03-1837) ?. That would make him 21 in 1858. The civil war started 1861, so probably means the civil war started whilst he was still away. His sister should know she was 8 in 1858, do you have this sister b:1850 ?. http://www.examiner.com/article/the-american-who-welcomed-the-css-alabama-into-african-waters : The CSS Alabama arrived here 29-07-1863, and said GAL arrived about 7 months before. [He became a sailor and travelled extensively before deserting ship in Cape Town]: If he left NY in 1858, arrived CT about 01-1863, that is 4-5 years of ship(s) and ports to look into ?. [George Albert Lloyd; Cornelius Gallagher]: Both on same ship etc. It can also be asked why [Cornelius Gallagher] isn't mentioned as also being [The American who welcomed the CSS Alabama into African waters] ???. I assume he was American ?. https://books.google.co.za/books?id=2BL2AwAAQBAJ&pg=PA1194#v=onepage&q&f=false : It seems the Alabama came into the Cape a second time in 03-1864. It is about 7/8 months from 08-1863. === The Yankee Clipper seems to be a 3 mast and fast merchant sailing ship, in this case, probably carrying goods for export/sale in the Cape. There seemed to be a fair number of them, at least 15 when the Alabama was around here. [GAL in 1850C NY, not in 1860C]; [Lawrence Green inaccurate: GAL not associated with the Alabama]. === Peter Montfort (?) m. Ellen Wilhelmina \\, they have William Johannes Montfort bp:27-09-1865, and Peter Montfort dies before this birth. His wife Ellen Wilhelmina Montfort then m2 George Albert Lloyd. What should be Peter Montfort's brother William Montfort m. Catharine \\, they have a dg named after his brother's wife, Ellen Wilhelmina Montfort bp:16-12-1863. Their first 5 children are all bp:09-04-1862 !!!. George Albert Lloyd m:1854-1866 Ellen Wilhelmina Montfort, probably 1866 ?. === >From what I can see: [George Arrived in Table Bay on a Yankee clipper 7 months before the arrival of the Alabama]: You would want the original reference for this. The book was written on facts and also family stories. If this part is based on family stories, it is quite possible he never even saw the CSS Alabama at all!. Bart.

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