From: Claudine van Wyk [mailto:claudine@vanwyk.co.za] Sent: 06 March 2015 07:00 PM To: 'south-africa-request@rootsweb.com' Subject: Family name George Albert Lloyd, Churchhaven Hi I am wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction? I am researching my husband's family, the LLOYDS from Churchhaven. George Albert Lloyd founded Churchhaven on the West Coast. I have found a possible census record for him in the USA but have been unable to find out how he left the US and arrived in South Africa. Family legend says he arrived on the CSS ALABAMA but I have not been able to find his name on any crew or passenger lists in the fleet that travelled with the CSS Alabama or the Alabama itself. There is no proof as yet that he arrived here on that vessel at all. I've been in contact with Civil War societies in the US, the US navy archives as well as historians acquainted with the vessel and the fleet that came here. No one has found any papers with his details recorded anywhere. Now, I do know that the area in the US where he was born was prominent in whaling. My request is for anyone with knowledge of merchant vessels, fishing and whaling vessels who can tell me where I can start searching. Regards Claudine

=== About seven months before the Alabama's arrival, two young seamen from New York named George Albert Lloyd and Cornelius Gallagher slipped on shore from a Yankee clipper berthed in Table Bay Docks. More than half a century later l was on holiday at Saldanha Bay. In a village store I noticed a lean old man with a Yankee face and Abraham Lincoln beard. "Yes, stare hard sonny, for its not every day you'll see a man who came off the Alabama," said the storekeeper. "Stare hard, that's Lloyd of the lagoon". So I gaped at old Lloyd and watched him as he strode off to his boat, made sail, and steered away down the lagoon. I did not know then, of George Albert Lloyd, the American sailor who founded Church Haven on the lagoon at Langebaan. The Alabama steamed into Saldanha Bay on the morning of July 29, 1863. === It is 50 years later the storekeeper says GAL came "off the Alabama", which is probably incorrect ?. But the first paragraph seems to give the greatest indication of his arrival. The CSS Alabama also seems to be referred to as the Alabama ?. Bart. -----Original Message----- I have found a possible census record for him in the USA but have been unable to find out how he left the US and arrived in South Africa.

Hi Claudine George Arrived in Table Bay on a Yankee clipper 7 months before the arrival of the Alabama. He died in 1916. He was born at Hudson in the State of New York in 1842. One of his sisters wrote a letter to a descendant saying `¹George left home for a sea voyage in 1858 when he was sixteen years old ( I was 8 years old) we had a civil war and he never returned home This is the only estate for 1916 for an George Lloyd DEPOT KAB SOURCE MOOC TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 6/9/834 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 2345 PART 1 DESCRIPTION LLOYD, GEORGE ELLIS. DEATH NOTICE. STARTING 19160000 ENDING 19160000 I can send you a photo of him and his family from the book in the Land of the Afternoon by Lawrence Green ­ please let me know The National Archives in Cape Town would be the best place to go for help Regards Heather From: Claudine van Wyk via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: <claudine@vanwyk.co.za>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 8:13 PM To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] FW: Family name George Albert Lloyd, Churchhaven From: Claudine van Wyk [mailto:claudine@vanwyk.co.za] Sent: 06 March 2015 07:00 PM To: 'south-africa-request@rootsweb.com' Subject: Family name George Albert Lloyd, Churchhaven Hi I am wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction? I am researching my husband's family, the LLOYDS from Churchhaven. George Albert Lloyd founded Churchhaven on the West Coast. I have found a possible census record for him in the USA but have been unable to find out how he left the US and arrived in South Africa. Family legend says he arrived on the CSS ALABAMA but I have not been able to find his name on any crew or passenger lists in the fleet that travelled with the CSS Alabama or the Alabama itself. There is no proof as yet that he arrived here on that vessel at all. I've been in contact with Civil War societies in the US, the US navy archives as well as historians acquainted with the vessel and the fleet that came here. No one has found any papers with his details recorded anywhere. Now, I do know that the area in the US where he was born was prominent in whaling. My request is for anyone with knowledge of merchant vessels, fishing and whaling vessels who can tell me where I can start searching. Regards Claudine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message