Thanks Bart, ja I have that same information and it's a total brick wall. I have no idea where to start searching for details of vessels from that era. I've approached the port authorities but they have no idea where to direct my request. And yes the Alabama and CSS Alabama are the same vessel. Regards Claudine Message: 2 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:16:57 +0200 From: "Bart Simon" <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] FW: Family name George Albert Lloyd, Churchhaven To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <AC5D5147C2164A3D91FFDC3F813C60B4@DESKTOP> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original === About seven months before the Alabama's arrival, two young seamen from New York named George Albert Lloyd and Cornelius Gallagher slipped on shore from a Yankee clipper berthed in Table Bay Docks. More than half a century later l was on holiday at Saldanha Bay. In a village store I noticed a lean old man with a Yankee face and Abraham Lincoln beard. "Yes, stare hard sonny, for its not every day you'll see a man who came off the Alabama," said the storekeeper. "Stare hard, that's Lloyd of the lagoon". So I gaped at old Lloyd and watched him as he strode off to his boat, made sail, and steered away down the lagoon. I did not know then, of George Albert Lloyd, the American sailor who founded Church Haven on the lagoon at Langebaan. The Alabama steamed into Saldanha Bay on the morning of July 29, 1863. === It is 50 years later the storekeeper says GAL came "off the Alabama", which is probably incorrect ?. But the first paragraph seems to give the greatest indication of his arrival. The CSS Alabama also seems to be referred to as the Alabama ?. Bart. -----Original Message----- I have found a possible census record for him in the USA but have been unable to find out how he left the US and arrived in South Africa. ------------------------------ To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 88 ******************************************** ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4306/9273 - Release Date: 03/11/15