[Speculative]: Hello: [b:14-03-1837]: Although GAL writes this date himself, it needs to be checked. The Hudson area is quite small, so can’t be too difficult to find his record there ?. His sister maintains he is b:1841/2. === About seven months before the Alabama's arrival, two young seamen from New York named George Albert Lloyd and Cornelius Gallagher slipped on shore from a Yankee clipper berthed in Table Bay Docks. "Yes, stare hard sonny, for if s not every day you'll see a man who came off the Alabama," said the storekeeper. George Albert Lloyd, the American sailor who founded Church Haven on the lagoon at Langebaan. Storekeeper had mixed up Lloyd's history a bit. "George left home for a sea voyage in October 1858, when he was sixteen. (I was eight)." Two young Americans reached the Paarl district feeling extremely hungry. They came to the lagoon on Christmas Eve (1862?). At Schryver's Hoek he was welcomed by Peter de Montfort owner of the fishery, invited young Lloyd to join them round their barrel of wine. De Montfort was a married man with several daughters. He had seen the world, it was more comfortable than the forecastle of an American clipper ship, and he stayed on. Often after a good catch De Montfort and Lloyd loaded an ox-wagon with smoked and salt fish and made leisurely journeys from village to village. Without previous warning the Alabama steamed into Saldanha Bay on the morning of July 29 1863. Among the boats that clustered round the Alabama was one with De Montfort and Lloyd on board. At the end of the day's hunting occurred the tragedy which Lloyd often described to his children in late years. Simeon W. Cummings had forgotten to unload his shotgun, the buckshot shattered his chest and fell dead on the sand. Lloyd had been a silent observer of the entertaining of the Alabama's crew. All the farmers attended the funeral of Cummings, and Lloyd went too. Marriage register "March 26, 1867. George Albert Lloyd (full age), fisherman of Schryver's Hoek, and Ellen de Montfort (17)." === [About seven months before the Alabama's arrival, two young seamen from New York named George Albert Lloyd and Cornelius Gallagher slipped on shore from a Yankee clipper berthed in Table Bay Docks]; [They came to the lagoon on Christmas Eve]; [CSS Alabama arrived 29-07-1863. GAL arrived about 7 months before]: The 7 months back here seems to go to December 1862 !. GAL was also at the funeral of Simeon W. Cummings, so I guess GAL saw the Alabama. There seemed to be a fair number of them, at least 15 when the Alabama was around here: I would be pointless maybe to list these, GAL came the years before this. === Peter Montfort (?) m. Ellen Wilhelmina \\, they have William Johannes Montfort bp:27-09-1865, and Peter Montfort dies before this birth. His wife Ellen Wilhelmina Montfort then m2 George Albert Lloyd. What should be Peter Montfort's brother William Montfort m. Catharine \\, they have a dg named after his brother's wife, Ellen Wilhelmina Montfort bp:16-12-1863. Their first 5 children are all bp:09-04-1862 !!!. George Albert Lloyd m:1854-1866 Ellen Wilhelmina Montfort, probably 1866 ?. [This is partly speculative!]. === https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=75&query=%2Bsurname%3AMontfort%20%2Bbirth_place%3A%22Cape%20of%20Good%20Hope%22~%20%2Brecord_country%3A%22South%20Africa%22 Parents : William + Catharine Montfort. Carl Christian Montfort : https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVS4-TXR4 Cornelia Johanna Montfort : https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVS4-TXR6 John William Montfort : https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVS4-TXRZ Maria Magdalena Montfort : https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVS4-TXRK Peter Alexander Montfort : https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVS4-TXRN Ellen Wilhelmina Montfort : https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVS4-TJRQ === Ellen Wilhelmina Montfort has son bp:27-09-1865: William Johannes Montfort : https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVS4-TFQ1 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-23604-14644-68 You can note no mention of her husband, probably died ?. Abode: Schryvershoek. Occ: Fisherman(/woman) (Crossed out). So I suspect Ellen Wilhelmina \\ m1. Peter? Montfort, m2:1867 George Albert Lloyd. This obviously needs more research and m. records etc. She would have been 14-15 years old when she m1. to Peter? Montfort. I have her bp:31-08-1850, but not sure of her maiden name. You need to know her maiden name to see if she is dg Montfort, or the wife of a Montfort. It seems to me the latter. === I suspect only that Peter Montfort has a brother [William Montfort m. Catharine \\] whose first 5 children all bp:09-04-1862. The 6th child Ellen Wilhelmina Montfort bp:16-12-1863, probably named after Peter Montfort’s wife/future wife [Ellen Wilhelmina \\]. === One can download several of his books here: https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator:%22Lawrence+GREEN%22 https://archive.org/download/AGiantInHiding/AGiantInHiding.pdf http://archive.org/stream/InTheLandOfAfternoon/InTheLandOfAfternoon_djvu.txt The PDF versions would make much quicker indexing ?, the texts can be copied etc. === Just reading further: [March 26, 1867. George Albert Lloyd (full age), fisherman of Schryver's Hoek, and Ellen de Montfort (17)]. === Bart. -----Original Message-----