You should look for his baptism in these films: https://www.familysearch.org/search/search/library_catalog#searchType=catalog&filtered=true&fed=false&collectionId=&catSearchType=place&searchCriteria=&placeName=South+Africa,+Transvaal,+Ventersdorp&author_givenName=&author_surname=&subjectCountTotal=1&uri=http%3A//catalog-search-api%3A8080/www-catalogapi-webservice/search%3Fquery%3Dsubject_id%3A602884%26count%3D50&subjectId=602884 There does not seem to be a gap in the registers. > His death certificate states only his father's name, which is > the same as his. so he might be the 1st born son? No, not in general. Here is the naming pattern: http://eggsa.org/articles/MeintjesAndRudolph-TraditionalNamingPatterns.htm Best wishes, Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 01:06:25 PM EST From: "laquita belinfante" <belinfante@telkomsa.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Missing Mother Good Evening all, The recent posts on grandfather's have given me new hope with my brick wall. My grandfather Wynand Johannes PRETORIUS b.10 Jul 1898 @ Ventersdorp, X 2 Oct 1923 @ Ventersdorp, d. 25 Dec 1955 @ Johannesburg. No marriage certificate as the NG church had a fire in the late 1920's His death certificate states only his father's name, which is the same as his. so he might be the 1st born son? His first 3 children: 1st a girl, carries the maternal grand mother's name, 2nd a boy, Peter Johannes, 3rd a girl, my mother Jacomina Jacoba, which I feel should be the paternal grandmother's names, so I went in search of a Jacomina Jacoba married to a PRETORIUS and with a son named Wynand Johannes. I found one, BUT the PRETORIUS experts feel that he is the son of one of the older siblings and not of the parents. What's to do? what records to search for? This is my brick wall. Any suggestions PLEASE. Lucky ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message