The number I have is on her death certificate. ID 348/784 299 Her brothers ID was 324 886644W. I am not sure how the ID number use to work.. On 14 Nov 2011, at 16:09, Steve Hayes wrote: > On 14 Nov 2011 at 11:06, Desre Bean wrote: > >> I have a Old ID number for my grandmother.... how useful is it to have? Would >> i be able to trace birth and marriage certificates with it? > > Not really. > > It might be able to show where she was living in the 1951 census, though, if > you could find a key to the numbers and districts. > > > -- > Steve Hayes > E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk > Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) > Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com > Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 > Fax: 086-548-2525 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maybe I am a bit late for this reply, but I have just received my father's information from Home Affairs and he never had the new number - in fact his number doesn't even convey that he was a citizen yet, and is still his 'alien' number although he had been a citizen for some years already. I was married with only the old numbers, and that certificate was also easy to obtain. Furthermore, if you have a date and a place you can get much earlier certificates from Home Affairs (I received my parents-in-law's marriage certificate from 1943, without any numbers at all) here by us (KZN) Home affairs seems very jacked up. If you live near Pretoria I can give you some addresses where documents are easy to obtain. Gerda Pieterse Richards Bay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desre Bean" <dezbean@gmail.com> To: <shayes@dunelm.org.uk>; <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Old South African ID numbers > The number I have is on her death certificate. > ID 348/784 299 > > Her brothers ID was 324 886644W. > I am not sure how the ID number use to work.. > > On 14 Nov 2011, at 16:09, Steve Hayes wrote: > >> On 14 Nov 2011 at 11:06, Desre Bean wrote: >> >>> I have a Old ID number for my grandmother.... how useful is it to have? >>> Would >>> i be able to trace birth and marriage certificates with it? >> >> Not really. >> >> It might be able to show where she was living in the 1951 census, though, >> if >> you could find a key to the numbers and districts. >> >> >> -- >> Steve Hayes >> E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk >> Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) >> Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com >> Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 >> Fax: 086-548-2525 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gerda You seem to have hit pay dirt. I applied here in JHB for my grandfathers birth certificate 18 months ago and have still had no luck. I need it to find his mother's name as his death notice shows only his father's name which is the same as his. The NG church where he might have been baptized in Ventersdorp had a fire in the 1920's and many records were lost. So I have a brick wall with my own grand father and with the name Wynand Johannes PRETORIUS, I might as well go deep sea diving Lucky > Maybe I am a bit late for this reply, but I have just received my father's > information from Home Affairs and he never had the new number - in fact > his > number doesn't even convey that he was a citizen yet, and is still his > 'alien' number although he had been a citizen for some years already.

> The number I have is on her death certificate. > ID 348/784 299 > > Her brothers ID was 324 886644W. > I am not sure how the ID number use to work.. Hi The only use I can think of for the old ID Numbers is that to start off with the were issued sequentially. If 324 886644W applied to someone in our family 324 886641W was my father's 324 886642W was my mother's 324 886643W was mine as the eldest child 324 886644W was my sister's, next eldest and the W indicated that we were white I cannot remember what the other 3 children's ID numbers were (or if they had the old numbers) and I cannot remember when they were issued. So it MAY be possible to prove relationships with these ID numbers and the reason a brother and sister's ID numbers are different is that MAYBE the ID number for the women changed on marriage. For what its worth Mike