Dorri I was VERY precise and even stated that I wanted a vault certified copy. That was 18 months ago, and still nothing. Lucky (and it seems I need more than my nick name :<) ) > > Some years ago my father applied for a copy of his father's birth > certificate (1897)...they sent him the short form...ie the one without the > details of his parents etc. His request for the full certificate fell on > very stoney ground. > > So be precise in exactly what you want. > > Best of luck, > > Dorri > >