Yes, I found, at e-family, some Koekemoer information in the First Fifty Years project, but nothing on his origins. Also, Koekemoer is not in the Familia index. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:39:04 PM EDT From: "Rob Jones" <rob@robjones.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Koekemoer/Kukemur Hi All, Have a look at the www.e-family.co.za site. That has some details for Jochem Koekemoer. Regards, Rob -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 28 October 2011 07:14 PM To: Andre Groenewald; south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Koekemoer/Kukemur There is no information on his origins in SA Genealogies, Malherbe or de Villiers / Pama, nor on the Stamouers web site. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:43:30 AM EDT From: Andre Groenewald <groenstes@yahoo.com> To: "south-africa@rootsweb.com" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Koekemoer/Kukemur Joachim of Jochem Koekemoer (*18.11.1690 gebore te Oldenburg, Duitsland) is die stamvader wat van Westphalia/Wesfalen, Wes-Duitsland na Suid-Afrika gekom het. Hy het op 18 jarige ouderdom as ‘n soldaat aangesluit by die destydse Oos Indiese Kompanjie (V.O.C) en is na die Kaap gestuur. Hy stap aan wal op 18 oktober 1709. Hy trou met Maria Putter (*3.4.1696) in die Kaap van Goede Hoop op 1 Augustus 1717. Sy was die dogter van Dietrich Pötter wat vanaf Duitsland in 1675 hom as jagter in die Kaap gevestig het en Zacharia Visser. Later sou hy sy naam na Diederik Putter verander. Sy nageslag: · (B1) Diederik (= 19.7.1716) trou met Jacomina van Wijk op 22 April 1748. Sy was dogter van Gerrit Arie van Wijk en Elizabeth Vivier. Groetnis Andre Rev Dr AJ Groenewald 8 Manse Court East Calder Livingston EH53 0HF Tel 01506 884585 Mobile 075 888 458 14 groenstes@yahoo.com Scottish Charity Reg. No.SC006973 ________________________________ From: Richard Ball <richardonrootsweb@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk> To: Sonia van Heerden <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Koekemoer/Kukemur Hello Sonia, SvH> Joechem KOEKEMOER/KUKEMUR, was born ca 1690 in either Germany or SvH> Netherlands, arrived in SA before 1716 and married Maria PUTTER SvH> (b8), born April 3, 1696, SvH> CP. He died pre Mar 19, 1773, CP SvH> and had 8 children. SvH> Can anyone tell me whether he was German or Dutch? So far as I know there is no evidence (certainly none that I could find) in the records in the Cape archives to suggest any place of birth or any date of birth. I would be interested in your source for the birth date of Maria Putter as you give it above. She was baptised 21 July 1696 but, again so far as I know, there is no source for a birth date. Also your source for JK's death? http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/kfp/I082.html Yours sincerely, Richard -- Richard Ball, Norfolk, England http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk richard.ball@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Keith, KM> I looked at the Familia index and did not find Koekemoer. I do KM> not have the capability to do a text search on the contents. That KM> may help. Thanks. No, I don't have that facility either. As he appears in the muster rolls of 1713 for the first time as a free man http://www.eggsa.org/transcriptions/monsterrollen/1713/mr_1713_intro.htm and the piece that Andre Groenewald quoted (from an unpublished book) is so specific about when he landed and that he was employed by the VOC , I suppose the next place to look would be the muster rolls of VOC employees from 1709 to 1712 (Cape Archives VC 40). These usually do record place of birth and rank. Unfortunately I do not have access to those and the Cape Archives does not allow one to have them photographed. So it will have to rest as unsolved at the moment. Cheers, Richard -- Richard Ball, Norfolk, England http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk richard.ball@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk