Thank you again everyone who helped me cut my "unknown" column on my ethnicity chart down in size.Could you help me with another surname, please? Joechem KOEKEMOER/KUKEMUR, was born ca 1690 in either Germany or Netherlands, arrived in SA before 1716 and married Maria PUTTER (b8), born April 3, 1696, CP. He died pre Mar 19, 1773, CP and had 8 children. Can anyone tell me whether he was German or Dutch? Sonia