I have at last received the said Death certificate: It proves to be the correct one. So: After more than 6 years of searching I have at last found more information about my father's first wife. I was thrown by the fact that she lived in South Africa for many years. I then noticed on Find My Past that she travelled back and forth several times. She obviously did not advise the Hayes Court Care Home, where she died, of the full name of her divorced husband or the fact that he was still alive at the time of her being there. The Croydon Register Office have now been advised of the corrections. The date of birth narrows down the possible Elsie May Rogers to - Q3 1898, Cannock, Vol. 6b, Page 518. But the problem is that none born at that time have the name Frederick (a Baker) as a father, per her marriage certificate! I will eventual trace all the 'travelling to' addresses in the UK on the Electoral Rolls to see if any other family emerge. To some extent it is all a pointless exercise, just a need to know, because if she had not run off in a huff - for what ever reason - then I would not be writing this to you here and now! Jim Death cert reads: Death Entry No. 273. Registration district Croydon. Sub-district Croydon London Borough of Croydon. 10 April 1983, 50 Hayes Lane, Kenley. Elsie May NORTH Female Maiden name ROGERS. Born 24 Aug 1898. Widow of --- NORTH ---. (Hayes Court Nursing Home - see Google). 50 Hayes Lane, Kenley. Informant: John William Edward LEACH. Qualification - Causing the body to be cremated? Of - Ye Market, Selsdon Road, Croydon. Causes: 1a, Bronchopneumonia 1b, Congestive cardiac failure 11, Psendoanthnosis Certified by, M(ichael) J STURGESS MB. (Current owner of Hayes Court Nursing Home as at May 2011). Signed J W Edward LEACH, 21 April 1983 ? A VENABLES Registrar. Last message: Well if you assume that the year of birth is not 1899, but 1898, then she died in Croydon Name: Elsie May North Birth Date: 24 Aug 1898 Death Registration Month/Year: 1983 Registration district: Croydon Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 11 Page: 1471 There's not much to work with with the others, but I suppose you could get the electoral rolls checked to see who the residents of these properties were. Kind regards Antony

Jim Do have any members of the North family that ended up in New Zealand or Australia circa 1822 (James),(Arthur Edward 1886)or (Eliza Jane 1889) Always fishing, Lucky ----- Original Message ----- From: "JIM NORTH" <jim.north@wanadoo.fr> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Elsie May NORTH nee Rogers bornabout1899?Lived in Johannesburg? >I have at last received the said Death certificate: > It proves to be the correct one. > > So: After more than 6 years of searching I have at last found more > information about my father's first wife. > I was thrown by the fact that she lived in South Africa for many years. > I then noticed on Find My Past that she travelled back and forth several > times.

I know Rob North who lives in Hilton (near Pietermaritzburg).he's trying to find details about a grandmother born in India. John _____ From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of laquita belinfante Sent: 23 May 2011 03:55 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] NORTH family Jim Do have any members of the North family that ended up in New Zealand or Australia circa 1822 (James),(Arthur Edward 1886)or (Eliza Jane 1889) Always fishing, Lucky ----- Original Message ----- From: "JIM NORTH" <jim.north@wanadoo.fr> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Elsie May NORTH nee Rogers bornabout1899?Lived in Johannesburg? >I have at last received the said Death certificate: > It proves to be the correct one. > > So: After more than 6 years of searching I have at last found more > information about my father's first wife. > I was thrown by the fact that she lived in South Africa for many years. > I then noticed on Find My Past that she travelled back and forth several > times. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3654 - Release Date: 05/22/11