One of the saddest things (apart from all the people being killed) was the fact that the British got through 500,000 horses many of which came from Australia, New Zealand and Argentina!! There is now a memorial somewhere in South AFrica to this dreadful waste. Best wishes, Tombi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Tuckey" <ronjeantuc@clear.net.nz> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] History as taught then > Despite me getting all uppity earlier on this is proving fascinating and I > shall look up those biographies and have a good read. I know little of > south african history; my father in law left New Zealand with a horse > contingent to fight in the Boer War and his diary is most interesting and > informative. He didn't write of the fighting, remember he was writing to > his Mum and by the time the letters got to her she would have been frantic > with worry about it all...they are utterly charming and he mentions > Bulawayo > (where we lived eventually) and so on on his ride from Beira to Mafeking > and > beyond. His brother became a Policeman in that era in S.A. and his diary > too is really good reading chasing horse thieves etc and living eventually > in Botswana as it is now. I have a photograph album of sketches of folk > during that period very clever but not signed, and some photos of "Boer > families" but no names...then he wrote one on his Kalahari campaign in WW1 > as by that time he had fallen in love with S.A. and settled in Sydney on > Vaal he rode through the desert to S.W.A - once again I have typed those > letters too and through them I know something about your history. > > I was educated in India so only knew about Indian history. Then we went > to > Rhodesia now Zimbabwe and children there these days only have terrorist > victory stuff...every country seems prejudiced from one angle only very > sad. > > Now I am off to see if the comprehensive Auckland History Library has > anything to help me > > Merry Christmas everyone > Jean in Auckland > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:44 AM > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] History as taught then > >> Tombi wrote: >> >>> Keith, >>> You were very lucky! I did history to matric but being at an English >>> Medium school in the Transvaal although ... >> >> Tombi, >> >> I said I wish I had the textbooks, because then I could see what they >> left >> out. I finished High School in the Transvaal in 1968. >> >> It seemed to me that South African history ended about van der Stel's >> time. >> We got a dose of indoctrination in classes called Social Studies and one >> called Race Studies, but they were not history. There was no 20th >> Century >> history from anywhere. I learned a lot about Metternich and Bismarck, >> and >> the >> Industrial Revolution. British and European colonialism was not history, >> it >> was in a class called Geography. >> >> Which is too bad. 20th Century South African history, particularly the >> first >> half, is fascinating. The rest also is. I am much more interested in >> what >> some call "social history", the experiences of common people, than I am >> in >> accounts of the exploits of generals and politicians. I suppose >> genealogy, >> with its emphasis on the lives of individuals, makes you that way. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Keith >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4674 - Release Date: 12/11/11 >

As far as I know there are two horse memorials; One in Port Elizabeth...professionally produced with a cast statue of a horse. I am sure if you Googled Port Elizabeth history it would appear there. The other I have seen was produced and erected at Weston Agricultural College near Mooi River and opened in the past few years. Weston College was the site of a re-mount centre where horses were collected from the area, trained and shod. John D. -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tombi Peck Sent: 12 December 2011 02:01 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] History as taught then One of the saddest things (apart from all the people being killed) was the fact that the British got through 500,000 horses many of which came from Australia, New Zealand and Argentina!! There is now a memorial somewhere in South AFrica to this dreadful waste. Best wishes, Tombi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Tuckey" <ronjeantuc@clear.net.nz> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] History as taught then > Despite me getting all uppity earlier on this is proving fascinating and I > shall look up those biographies and have a good read. I know little of > south african history; my father in law left New Zealand with a horse > contingent to fight in the Boer War and his diary is most interesting and > informative. He didn't write of the fighting, remember he was writing to > his Mum and by the time the letters got to her she would have been frantic > with worry about it all...they are utterly charming and he mentions > Bulawayo > (where we lived eventually) and so on on his ride from Beira to Mafeking > and > beyond. His brother became a Policeman in that era in S.A. and his diary > too is really good reading chasing horse thieves etc and living eventually > in Botswana as it is now. I have a photograph album of sketches of folk > during that period very clever but not signed, and some photos of "Boer > families" but no names...then he wrote one on his Kalahari campaign in WW1 > as by that time he had fallen in love with S.A. and settled in Sydney on > Vaal he rode through the desert to S.W.A - once again I have typed those > letters too and through them I know something about your history. > > I was educated in India so only knew about Indian history. Then we went > to > Rhodesia now Zimbabwe and children there these days only have terrorist > victory stuff...every country seems prejudiced from one angle only very > sad. > > Now I am off to see if the comprehensive Auckland History Library has > anything to help me > > Merry Christmas everyone > Jean in Auckland > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:44 AM > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] History as taught then > >> Tombi wrote: >> >>> Keith, >>> You were very lucky! I did history to matric but being at an English >>> Medium school in the Transvaal although ... >> >> Tombi, >> >> I said I wish I had the textbooks, because then I could see what they >> left >> out. I finished High School in the Transvaal in 1968. >> >> It seemed to me that South African history ended about van der Stel's >> time. >> We got a dose of indoctrination in classes called Social Studies and one >> called Race Studies, but they were not history. There was no 20th >> Century >> history from anywhere. I learned a lot about Metternich and Bismarck, >> and >> the >> Industrial Revolution. British and European colonialism was not history, >> it >> was in a class called Geography. >> >> Which is too bad. 20th Century South African history, particularly the >> first >> half, is fascinating. The rest also is. I am much more interested in >> what >> some call "social history", the experiences of common people, than I am >> in >> accounts of the exploits of generals and politicians. I suppose >> genealogy, >> with its emphasis on the lives of individuals, makes you that way. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Keith >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4674 - Release Date: 12/11/11 > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. 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I have photographs of the many dead horses...its terrible...my Father-in-law took his back to New Zealand but then he was a lucky one!! Jean -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tombi Peck" <tombipeck@talktalk.net> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:01 PM To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] History as taught then > One of the saddest things (apart from all the people being killed) was the > fact that the British got through 500,000 horses many of which came from > Australia, New Zealand and Argentina!! > There is now a memorial somewhere in South AFrica to this dreadful waste. > Best wishes, > Tombi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean Tuckey" <ronjeantuc@clear.net.nz> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:07 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] History as taught then > > >> Despite me getting all uppity earlier on this is proving fascinating and >> I >> shall look up those biographies and have a good read. I know little of >> south african history; my father in law left New Zealand with a horse >> contingent to fight in the Boer War and his diary is most interesting and >> informative. He didn't write of the fighting, remember he was writing to >> his Mum and by the time the letters got to her she would have been >> frantic >> with worry about it all...they are utterly charming and he mentions >> Bulawayo >> (where we lived eventually) and so on on his ride from Beira to Mafeking >> and >> beyond. His brother became a Policeman in that era in S.A. and his diary >> too is really good reading chasing horse thieves etc and living >> eventually >> in Botswana as it is now. I have a photograph album of sketches of >> folk >> during that period very clever but not signed, and some photos of "Boer >> families" but no names...then he wrote one on his Kalahari campaign in >> WW1 >> as by that time he had fallen in love with S.A. and settled in Sydney on >> Vaal he rode through the desert to S.W.A - once again I have typed those >> letters too and through them I know something about your history. >> >> I was educated in India so only knew about Indian history. Then we went >> to >> Rhodesia now Zimbabwe and children there these days only have terrorist >> victory stuff...every country seems prejudiced from one angle only very >> sad. >> >> Now I am off to see if the comprehensive Auckland History Library has >> anything to help me >> >> Merry Christmas everyone >> Jean in Auckland >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> >> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:44 AM >> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] History as taught then >> >>> Tombi wrote: >>> >>>> Keith, >>>> You were very lucky! I did history to matric but being at an English >>>> Medium school in the Transvaal although ... >>> >>> Tombi, >>> >>> I said I wish I had the textbooks, because then I could see what they >>> left >>> out. I finished High School in the Transvaal in 1968. >>> >>> It seemed to me that South African history ended about van der Stel's >>> time. >>> We got a dose of indoctrination in classes called Social Studies and one >>> called Race Studies, but they were not history. There was no 20th >>> Century >>> history from anywhere. I learned a lot about Metternich and Bismarck, >>> and >>> the >>> Industrial Revolution. British and European colonialism was not >>> history, >>> it >>> was in a class called Geography. >>> >>> Which is too bad. 20th Century South African history, particularly the >>> first >>> half, is fascinating. The rest also is. I am much more interested in >>> what >>> some call "social history", the experiences of common people, than I am >>> in >>> accounts of the exploits of generals and politicians. I suppose >>> genealogy, >>> with its emphasis on the lives of individuals, makes you that way. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4674 - Release Date: 12/11/11 >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >