Thanks for the update on the 2 Charles Henry Rudman's, I will update my records accordingly as well. Janet did some wonderful work but I seem to have lost contact with her of late. If anyone knows where one can make contact with her that would be great. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:00 AM, <south-africa-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Charles Henry RUDMAN (Lynn MacLeod) > 2. Re: Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" (Ian van Zyl) > 3. SA FAMILIE GESKIEDENIS OP DIE INTERNET (nantes kruger) > 4. Re: SA FAMILIE GESKIEDENIS OP DIE INTERNET (Keith Meintjes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:28:32 +1300 > From: "Lynn MacLeod" <MacLeod.Family@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Charles Henry RUDMAN > To: "Darryl Allwright \(Yahoo\)" <darryl.allwright@yahoo.com>, > <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4278769A5E554817A27A9B9A48096C89@lynnebf7d7be8c> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > HI Daryl > >From Rudman info..ex Janet Melville > Samuel RUDMAN x Ann SPRINGHAM > B5 Samuel Abt. 1834 d 30/8/1902 x King Williams Town 1/12/1862 Sarah Ann > MATTHEWS b 208/2/1840 Ireland d 9/1/1914 > Cl Samuel John b 18/4/1864 x Ester Rebecca KEARNEY > C2 William Arthur b 18/2/1866 > C3 Charles Henry (no date) x Anne Mildred ALLWRIGHT at Tabanchu > C4 Florence Theresa b 1873 d 1943 not married > C5 Ella Frances b 17/7/1875 d 27/7/1963 x Alfred William HARRIS > C6 Sarah Ann x Charles ALLWRIGHT (no dates) > So I would guess he falls between 1866 and 1873. > > Benjamin Jonathan RUDMAN x Julia Ann SLATER > B10 Jonathan Caleb b 29/4/1846 x 21/7/1870 Louisa Jane POTE b 17/1/1852 > C1 Mary Ann Matilda x Hugh LIVINGSTONE > C2 Clara Harriet x Harry BATES > C3 Charlotte Jane x George ROGERS > C4 Oliver Charles x Ellen Magdalena STUMKE > C5 Jonathan Caleb x Mabel Johanna EALES > C6 Charles Henry b 24/12/1883 Uitenhage d 5/3/1939 Crown Hills (55yrs3mths) > x Anna Helana WATSON b 1887 Palmietfontein d 1967 Durban > C7 Ivy May x John Scott HOARE > C8 Irene Kate x Timothy WATSON > C9 Walter Pote d infancy > Take care > Lynn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darryl Allwright (Yahoo)" <darryl.allwright@yahoo.com> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:50 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Charles Henry RUDMAN > > > Hi Keith and Sneena > > I have changed the heading of this post > > Charles Henry b abt 1862 d +/- 1940 s/o Samuel RUDMAN and Sarah MATTHEWS > married Annie Mildred ALLWRIGHT) d/o James Jay Eva ALLWRIGHT and Margaret > Ann EDWARDS) 28 March 1907 Thaba Nchu, Orange Free State. Annie Mildred > died > 25 March 1920 'Spitskop', Ladybrand. Had 3 children 1 son died in Rhodesia > and two daughters. He then married Anna Johanna EEDES nee KUYS in Vryburg, > b > 1866, Caledon, Cape Provonce d 27 March 1950, Pretoria (Her first Husband > was Charles Henry EEDES) > > There is definitely two Charles Henry RUDMANs > > I just need to clarify the dates of my Charles Henry. His Death I have from > Anna Johanna RUDMAN's DN TAB MHG 1927/1950 (however it does not give an > exact date) > > Darryl Allwright > > > ________________________________ > From: Keith Meintjes <umfundi@usa.net> > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:56 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 367 > > Sheena, > > What you say does not agree with the RUDMAN register or with SA Genealogies > 10 > p. 262-3. > > b10 Johnathan Caleb RUDMAN x Louisa Jane POTE. > .... > c2 Clara Harriet > .... > c7 Charles Henry x Anna Helena WATSON. > > "Sara" may be "Clara". > > Keith > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:23:58 PM EST > From: Sheena Bass <sheenabass@sundowneroaks.com> > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 367 > > I have Charles Henry Rudman married to Anna Helena Watson. This Charles > Henry does not have a sister called Sarah - of couse my research may be > wrong..... this Charles was born in 1883 and died in 1939. He was the son > of Jonathon Caleb Rudman and Juliana Slater. > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:42:24 -0500 > From: Ian van Zyl <ian111@sympatico.ca> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP70DBC66EA39AB6151F249DE6A70@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > hi iAN > > have you seen this ? > L > V > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:26 AM > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" > > > > Hi, Nolene. > > > > "Overberg Origins" was published in 1988. It says it "aims to record the > > stamvaders and descendants of those families in this old town who were > not > > included by C.C. de Villiers in his genealogical classic ..." > > > > Here is a list of the families included in "Overberg Origins": > > > > Barry > > Burrows > > Carncross > > Devenish > > Emett > > Hodgson > > Hopley > > Kennedy > > Moodie > > Reid > > Reitz > > Robertson > > Schreiner > > Sutton > > Tilney > > Whyte > > > > It looks like we do not have any of your people. But, I must say, for > > those > > included, the genealogies are quite nice. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Keith > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > Received: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:45:11 PM EST > > From: "Nolene Lossau" <nolene@mweb.co.za> > > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com>, "'SA List'" < > SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups - Swellendam > > > > Hi Keith > > > > > > I would appreciate lookup in > > Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund > > H.Burrows. > > > > I have the following "English" families in my direct line who were based > > in > > SWELLENDAM > > > > DAVIES - Thomas & Sophia (CHILDS)from London - arrived circa 1826 - 1828 > - > > My direct line is Francis DAVIES, Thomas's son who married Catharina > > LAMBERT. > > > > LAMBERT (Irish origin) - William & Johanna (CLARK) - I have never been > > able > > to find baptisms for any of their children - I think they may have been > > Catholic? > > > > Related names (not my direct line) in Swellendam are: > > > > SMITH > > GARDNER > > KELLY > > > > Any bits of info on these name will be greatly appreciated. I have full > > set > > of SAG volumes and have extracted all I can from them........... > > > > Thanks > > Nolene > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Keith Meintjes [mailto:umfundi@usa.net] > > Sent: 17 December 2011 08:23 AM > > To: SA List > > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups > > > > All, > > > > As I have done in many years past, I am pleased to offer genealogy advice > > and > > lookups over the holiday season. Here are some of my newest sources: > > > > Voortrekkerstamouers 1835-1845 by Jan C. Visagie. 2nd Edition. This is a > > truly outstanding work. My admiration for Prof. Visagie has no bounds. > > > > British Settlers in Natal 1824- 1857 by Shelagh O'Byrne Spencer. 7 > > volumes, > > A > > - Guy. > > > > Acutts in Africa by Yvonne Miller. I have a second copy of this book, in > > very > > good condition, for sale. > > > > Rudman Register and related families. Erasmus, Pote, Kirch > > > > van Lingen Stamregister > > > > Die Familie Bruwer, Fayers Marie Williams > > > > Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund H. > > Burrows. > > > > The Murray Family Registry 1794 - 1977. Caroline Murray. > > > > Van Riga tot Drakenstein, die Verhaal van Eduart Christiaan Haumann en sy > > Nasate, Riel Hauman > > > > Geslagsregister Coertse(n), Prof. Dr. PJ Coertze > > > > Heatlies in South Africa, Charles Hugo Heatlie > > > > Rabie - Rabe, Grebe, Rabe and Rabie > > > > Die Neethlings in Suid-Afrika, EM Neethling > > > > 1820 Settler James Mundell and his Descendants, Hilda Mary Corrin > > > > Die Familie Krige, JD Krige > > > > Kalm Maar Koppig, Die Familie BOJE en Aanverwante Families, JG (John) > > Boje. > > > > > > Let me know. Please be as specific as you can. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:43:16 +0200 > From: nantes kruger <nantes.kruger@gmail.com> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SA FAMILIE GESKIEDENIS OP DIE INTERNET > To: SAGenealogie@yahoogroups.com > Cc: buitenposten@rootsweb.com, south-africa@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAB5en2LQmVm3JXXuKQhM0vNzA3dAfnyA_f3y0TB53-po1N-V9Q@mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Lyslede > > Eerste keer dat ek http://www.southafrica.info/services/genealogy.htmraakloop, > gee als saam in 'n neutedop. Gaan definitief een van my kortpaaie > (shortcuts) op die rekenaarblad (desktop) word. > > Baie oulik !!! > > -- > Nantes Kruger > Moreleta Park > PRETORIA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 16:51:52 -0500 > From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SA FAMILIE GESKIEDENIS OP DIE INTERNET > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com>, <SAGenealogie@yahoogroups.com> > Cc: buitenposten@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <191PLsVY10960S01.1324331512@web01.cms.usa.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Nantes, > > Unfortunately, that site is very out of date. > > Keith > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 02:45:21 PM EST > From: nantes kruger <nantes.kruger@gmail.com> > To: SAGenealogie@yahoogroups.comCc: buitenposten@rootsweb.com, > south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SA FAMILIE GESKIEDENIS OP DIE INTERNET > > Hi Lyslede > > Eerste keer dat ek http://www.southafrica.info/services/genealogy.htm > raakloop, > gee als saam in 'n neutedop. Gaan definitief een van my kortpaaie > (shortcuts) op die rekenaarblad (desktop) word. > > Baie oulik !!! > > -- > Nantes Kruger > Moreleta Park > PRETORIA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 374 > ******************************************** > -- Sheena