And I ought to confess that on one very wild night I and several of us accepted a dare to climb up and sit in the saddle of that Horse is Port Elizabeth. !! It is a very tender memorial, a huge bronze and a soldier with his helmet full of water kneeling at the horse's head to give it water. Patricia Frykberg. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Deare" <dearej@mweb.co.za> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:13 PM To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] History as taught then > As far as I know there are two horse memorials; One in Port > Elizabeth...professionally produced with a cast statue of a horse. I am > sure > if you Googled Port Elizabeth history it would appear there. The other I > have seen was produced and erected at Weston Agricultural College near > Mooi > River and opened in the past few years. Weston College was the site of a > re-mount centre where horses were collected from the area, trained and > shod. > John D. > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tombi Peck > Sent: 12 December 2011 02:01 AM > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] History as taught then > > One of the saddest things (apart from all the people being killed) was the > fact that the British got through 500,000 horses many of which came from > Australia, New Zealand and Argentina!! > There is now a memorial somewhere in South AFrica to this dreadful waste. > Best wishes, > Tombi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean Tuckey" <ronjeantuc@clear.net.nz> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:07 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] History as taught then > > >> Despite me getting all uppity earlier on this is proving fascinating and >> I >> shall look up those biographies and have a good read. I know little of >> south african history; my father in law left New Zealand with a horse >> contingent to fight in the Boer War and his diary is most interesting and >> informative. He didn't write of the fighting, remember he was writing to >> his Mum and by the time the letters got to her she would have been >> frantic >> with worry about it all...they are utterly charming and he mentions >> Bulawayo >> (where we lived eventually) and so on on his ride from Beira to Mafeking >> and >> beyond. His brother became a Policeman in that era in S.A. and his diary >> too is really good reading chasing horse thieves etc and living >> eventually >> in Botswana as it is now. I have a photograph album of sketches of >> folk >> during that period very clever but not signed, and some photos of "Boer >> families" but no names...then he wrote one on his Kalahari campaign in >> WW1 >> as by that time he had fallen in love with S.A. and settled in Sydney on >> Vaal he rode through the desert to S.W.A - once again I have typed those >> letters too and through them I know something about your history. >> >> I was educated in India so only knew about Indian history. Then we went >> to >> Rhodesia now Zimbabwe and children there these days only have terrorist >> victory stuff...every country seems prejudiced from one angle only very >> sad. >> >> Now I am off to see if the comprehensive Auckland History Library has >> anything to help me >> >> Merry Christmas everyone >> Jean in Auckland >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> >> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:44 AM >> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] History as taught then >> >>> Tombi wrote: >>> >>>> Keith, >>>> You were very lucky! I did history to matric but being at an English >>>> Medium school in the Transvaal although ... >>> >>> Tombi, >>> >>> I said I wish I had the textbooks, because then I could see what they >>> left >>> out. I finished High School in the Transvaal in 1968. >>> >>> It seemed to me that South African history ended about van der Stel's >>> time. >>> We got a dose of indoctrination in classes called Social Studies and one >>> called Race Studies, but they were not history. There was no 20th >>> Century >>> history from anywhere. I learned a lot about Metternich and Bismarck, >>> and >>> the >>> Industrial Revolution. British and European colonialism was not >>> history, >>> it >>> was in a class called Geography. >>> >>> Which is too bad. 20th Century South African history, particularly the >>> first >>> half, is fascinating. The rest also is. I am much more interested in >>> what >>> some call "social history", the experiences of common people, than I am >>> in >>> accounts of the exploits of generals and politicians. 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