Jean, I am missing your point. The issue of the Anglo-Boer War Concentration Camps has hardly been discussed on this site. Also, I have not seen any message that blames currently living people for the atrocities of more than a century ago. It's history. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 10:43:23 PM EST From: Jean Tuckey <ronjeantuc@clear.net.nz> To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] List of concentration camps. SA War. Come on now everyone...enough is enough...it is not our fault the children died, or folk were treated badly otherwise one lingers over the Japanese bad treatment, the holocaust, the concentration camps much less the ill treatment in the Boer War there were bullies alive even then, as now, of all shades, colours and creeds etc etc ...who can apologise now....and why should one be answereable for the past. This is supposed to be a research site but like "Adele" I am close to unsubscribing as this subject has been done to death Jean Tuckey -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 10 Dec 2011 at 0:05, Keith Meintjes wrote: > The issue of the Anglo-Boer War Concentration Camps has hardly been discussed > on this site. > > Also, I have not seen any message that blames currently living people for the > atrocities of more than a century ago. > > It's history. It's also one of the points where family meets general history. A lot of people will have relatives who were interned or died in the camps, and so the considerations and policies that led to their establishment are also of interest. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

Thanks Steve. As I recall this part of our history was not taught at school (certainly not during the 40/50/ Nor at University. ) I am interested because it was a very important part in the life of one of my ancestors. And I knew, and know, very little, so I am filling in that part of my family history. In fact I think it is true to say that I have learnt more about South African History since doing genealogy than I ever knew before in spite of having a BA in History. The whole eastern Province and the South African War, the old Transvaal....... Oh I could go on and on. I am the richer for what these lists have given me. In fact I depend on them. Patricia Frykberg (aka Pat) -------------------------------------------------- >> The issue of the Anglo-Boer War Concentration Camps has hardly been >> discussed >> on this site. >> . >> >> It's history. > > It's also one of the points where family meets general history. > > A lot of people will have relatives who were interned or died in the > camps, > and so the considerations and policies that led to their establishment are > also of interest. > > > -- > Steve Hayes > E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk > Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) > Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com > Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 > Fax: 086-548-2525 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4071 - Release Date: 12/09/11 >

Hello Pat, For what it's worth, my Maternal G'father Joseph AINDOW fought in the War 1900-02, and had some connection I believe with Middleburg Camp, possibly as a guard? There he met? and Married a Boer widow, Maria Magdelena MARITZ, Nee KNOETZE, her husband having died on the "Dundee" field. What reason there was for marrying i've no idea, but it's strange how things work out Kind Regards, and All the best for Christmas and the New Year to All on the List. Walter Jones, Scotland. > Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:50:02 +1300 > From: patfryk@clear.net.nz > To: shayes@dunelm.org.uk; umfundi@usa.net; south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] List of concentration camps. SA War. > > Thanks Steve. As I recall this part of our history was not taught at school > (certainly not during the 40/50/ Nor at University. ) > I am interested because it was a very important part in the life of one of > my ancestors. And I knew, and know, very little, so I am filling in that > part of my family history. In fact I think it is true to say that I have > learnt more about South African History since doing genealogy than I ever > knew before in spite of having a BA in History. The whole eastern Province > and the South African War, the old Transvaal....... Oh I could go on and on. > I am the richer for what these lists have given me. > In fact I depend on them. > Patricia Frykberg (aka Pat) > > -------------------------------------------------- > >> The issue of the Anglo-Boer War Concentration Camps has hardly been > >> discussed > >> on this site. > >> > . > >> > >> It's history. > > > > It's also one of the points where family meets general history. > > > > A lot of people will have relatives who were interned or died in the > > camps, > > and so the considerations and policies that led to their establishment are > > also of interest. > > > > > > -- > > Steve Hayes > > E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk > > Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) > > Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com > > Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 > > Fax: 086-548-2525 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4071 - Release Date: 12/09/11 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been following the thread on the Boer War concentration camps. Like Pat, I enjoy learning history from real, "on the ground", stories to get a better idea of how people lived aside from official history. Are there any such records available (on line, hopefully) of First World War POW camps in South Africa? My German grandfather, arrested in what was Southern Rhodesia, spent the war in a pow camp in Pietermaritzburg. Grandpa is a major brickwall in my research and as I am retiring shortly I am looking for anything to help knock a few chinks into his family. Season's greetings from a rapidly chilling UK Lynette Surrey

Hi Lynette, What is your grandfather's name? Have a look at the document at this URL it may or may not have his name. http://upetd.up.ac.za/thesis/available/etd-03072006-095936/unrestricted/14back.pdf Also have you checked the Rhodesian death notices on www.familysearch.org? They are not searchable as such yet....but do have an index. Best Wishes and Happy Christmas from a not so windy, but wet day in Manchester. Dorri > From: lynne.oakes@virgin.net > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:55:27 +0000 > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] concentration camps/ WW1 POWs snip > Are there any such records available (on line, hopefully) of First World War > POW camps in South Africa? My German grandfather, arrested in what was > Southern Rhodesia, spent the war in a pow camp in Pietermaritzburg. Grandpa > is a major brickwall in my research and as I am retiring shortly I am > looking for anything to help knock a few chinks into his family. > > Season's greetings from a rapidly chilling UK > > Lynette > Surrey >

Lynn There was a POW camp for German troops captured in and around the then German South West Africa 1915. It was at Aus on the Keetmanshoop/Luderitz railway. I have a list of some of them. Many died in the 1918 flu. I got this small booklet from Germany and later found it is available in Namibia. Patricia Frykberg -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lyn Oakes" <lynne.oakes@virgin.net> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:55 PM To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] concentration camps/ WW1 POWs > I have been following the thread on the Boer War concentration camps. > Like > Pat, I enjoy learning history from real, "on the ground", stories to get a > better idea of how people lived aside from official history. > > Are there any such records available (on line, hopefully) of First World > War > POW camps in South Africa? My German grandfather, arrested in what was > Southern Rhodesia, spent the war in a pow camp in Pietermaritzburg. > Grandpa > is a major brickwall in my research and as I am retiring shortly I am > looking for anything to help knock a few chinks into his family. > > Season's greetings from a rapidly chilling UK > > Lynette > Surrey > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4074 - Release Date: 12/11/11 >