On 20 Aug 2011, at 8:26 PM, Brian & Fay Lea wrote: > Joy, what a clever person you are! Thank you for this tip, I will > share it > with our geriatric computer club, who are always battling with UK > pound > signs etc! > > Cheers Fay With the increasing number of Mac users in SA, it might be worthwhile pursuing the subject of a Mac equivalent. I am running a second-hand upright Mac (in succession to an old hemispheric iMac), and have stayed on an OS that is also a few years old, because of fears about some of the new systems that Mac are continually introducing (obviously they have found it pays to emulate the Wintel world in this respect, but it's driving me nuts!). My iMac had a small app called Keycode, which enabled one to make just about every symbol known to computers without bothering about symbol numbers and so forth. Of course, they have since dropped it, but fortunately I had made a text copy of the full set, and keep it as a reference paper on my desk. It has columns for keyboard key, Shift, Option and Option Shift, and rows for every character key (47 in total), and in 12 pt Palatino it fits quite easily on an A5 sheet of paper. Although Macs no longer provide Keycode, it does still work, and while the character-set remains the same I think it still will; it contains all sorts of useful mathematical symbols, as well as the diacriticals used in many European languages (but not those used solely in Vietnamese and other French-influenced Asian languages that use Roman type). Any Mac user with an old machine lying around can do likewise, and pass it on to other Mac users on the list. Any who can't take that approach can contact me off-line, but it will be difficult for me as I'd have a scan it, and my only hard copy is on Old Gold paper (to make it easier to find on my desk), and Old Gold is as hard to scan as it is to photocopy. But I'll do my best. Andrew Rodger rodgera@audioio.com