Good Morning all, I am going through the file on the RANDALL family, compiled I think by Tessa. On the section on young Mavis HOBBS Deborah LAING states Mavis was born with club feet, yet Herman LABSCHAGNE writes she had polio. Were the two conditions little known in those years and sometimes confused? As far as I understand polio is an infection and club feet is an heredity condition. Which did young Mavis have? Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

In my case I was lucky enough to get someone in Somerset, ENG., to order it as well, then she e-mailed it to me. Just thinking of other people who don't have any overseas contacts, would be nice for them to have sks to help them out. Barbara -----Original Message----- I have ordered certificates for overseas relatives and emailed the details. I do find the GRO are quicker and cheaper than local registry offices. pauline alden 13 swann street York YO23 1AF -----Original Message----- Hi Folks Just a thought and to save the finger nails Do you have anyone in the UK that you could get any future certificates sent to, who could then scan or photograph and send to you by email, at the end of the day the information is the prime thing, the certificate is nice for record but otherwise adds nothing (the person in the UK could always send it on after scan and emailing the contents) There are services that do that already but charge a large premium for doing so (Ancestry for example who charge over double for the same certificate) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

I have ordered certificates for overseas relatives and emailed the details. I do find the GRO are quicker and cheaper than local registry offices. pauline alden 13 swann street York YO23 1AF -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via Sent: 01 April 2015 10:41 To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ordering documents from the GRO UK Hi Folks Just a thought and to save the finger nails Do you have anyone in the UK that you could get any future certificates sent to, who could then scan or photograph and send to you by email, at the end of the day the information is the prime thing, the certificate is nice for record but otherwise adds nothing (the person in the UK could always send it on after scan and emailing the contents) There are services that do that already but charge a large premium for doing so (Ancestry for example who charge over double for the same certificate) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 01/04/2015 08:06, Bev via wrote: > YES -our side is to blame-ordered from the Preston RO[they sent them end of > Jan-and I am still waiting!] and had to get them resent to a UK address!!!!! > Bev > > Has anyone had any luck in the past 3 months ordering from the General > Register Office in the UK. > I ordered a document in January, on the 15 March, after I queried it , I > received an e-mail saying they would re-process my application, yet to-date > I still have not received anything. > I am thinking this is due to our POSTAL SERVICE ?? > Regards > Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

> Has anyone had any luck in the past 3 months ordering from the General > Register Office in the UK. I irdered a certificate a couple of weeks ago, but I'm not expecting it to arrive for a couple more weeks at least. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

Hi Folks Just a thought and to save the finger nails Do you have anyone in the UK that you could get any future certificates sent to, who could then scan or photograph and send to you by email, at the end of the day the information is the prime thing, the certificate is nice for record but otherwise adds nothing (the person in the UK could always send it on after scan and emailing the contents) There are services that do that already but charge a large premium for doing so (Ancestry for example who charge over double for the same certificate) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 01/04/2015 08:06, Bev via wrote: > YES -our side is to blame-ordered from the Preston RO[they sent them end of > Jan-and I am still waiting!] and had to get them resent to a UK address!!!!! > Bev > > Has anyone had any luck in the past 3 months ordering from the General > Register Office in the UK. > I ordered a document in January, on the 15 March, after I queried it , I > received an e-mail saying they would re-process my application, yet to-date > I still have not received anything. > I am thinking this is due to our POSTAL SERVICE ?? > Regards > Barbara

I don't doubt that the improvements were made, for a while we had a better Postal service. Around 2004, I found a whole lot of Post dumped next to a hydraulic channel, there is no understanding of people with no ethics. Today the Post is delivered by people who don't even wear uniforms, if you don't have a post box, you lucky if you get your post. Striking and even burning post is what we have to put up with. Hopefully your item will reach its destination soon, that's all we can hope for. -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Johann Hanekom via I think this has to do with the efficiency/reliability of the SA postal service (which incidentally made a millionaire of a relative who supposedly help to improve it). I posted an item via Royal Mail 'Signed For' to Durban on the 15th, and this is the current tracking status Local date/time Activity Location 3/27/2015 11:53 AM Arrival at inward office of exchange JIMC A 3/31/2015 9:21 AM Departure from inward office of exchange JIMC A Looks like some more patience is required :-( Johann Hanekom Lancaster UK http://www.hanekom.org.uk/gedview/individual.php?pid=I1967&ged=hanekom.ged

I agree, I had someone order for me in the UK, but I would still like the Original , after all, that's what we paid for........... one can only keep hoping. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Bev [mailto:bev@inkmatehillcrest.co.za] YES -our side is to blame-ordered from the Preston RO[they sent them end of Jan-and I am still waiting!] and had to get them resent to a UK address!!!!! Bev

YES -our side is to blame-ordered from the Preston RO[they sent them end of Jan-and I am still waiting!] and had to get them resent to a UK address!!!!! Bev -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara & Leon Rochoy via Sent: 31 March 2015 07:39 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ordering documents from the GRO UK Hi All, Has anyone had any luck in the past 3 months ordering from the General Register Office in the UK. I ordered a document in January, on the 15 March, after I queried it , I received an e-mail saying they would re-process my application, yet to-date I still have not received anything. I am thinking this is due to our POSTAL SERVICE ?? Regards Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think this has to do with the efficiency/reliability of the SA postal service (which incidentally made a millionaire of a relative who supposedly help to improve it). I posted an item via Royal Mail 'Signed For' to Durban on the 15th, and this is the current tracking status Local date/time Activity Location 3/27/2015 11:53 AM Arrival at inward office of exchange JIMC A 3/31/2015 9:21 AM Departure from inward office of exchange JIMC A Looks like some more patience is required :-( Johann Hanekom Lancaster UK http://www.hanekom.org.uk/gedview/individual.php?pid=I1967&ged=hanekom.ged -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 01 April 2015 08:01 To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 111 Today's Topics: 1. Ordering documents from the GRO UK (Barbara & Leon Rochoy)

Hi, Thank you, that possibly means, I should still get the original request in the next 2 weeks or so, I'm hoping to at least get something for my money, and that it's not lost in the postal system. I ordered once before and I got it even before the despatch date, that was in 2007. Thanks Barbara -----Original Message----- Hello: I would wait at least up to 8 weeks. Cheers - Bart.

Thanks for this, I will wait till mid, April, hopefully I will receive it by then. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via Sent: 31 March 2015 08:13 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] FW: Ordering documents from the GRO UK So at its very earliest it would have been despatched Tuesday 17th March Today would the tenth working day since, which does not sound excessive to me Personally I would give it a week and see if it arrives Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Thanks for your reply, payment was made and taken, this is the reply from my query, e-mailed to me on the Sun: 15 March at 01.49 pm "Thank you for your enquiry. Birth Certificate: George William Brooks We are sorry you have not received a certificate from a recent order. We have requested that our certificate production team process your application again within two working days. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused by the delay." I don't want to keep asking if it's our systems failure Barbara -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via Sent: 31 March 2015 07:44 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ordering documents from the GRO UK They are usually very efficient, turn round with GRO index reference about 8 days, without will take a little longer (there was a warning to that effect) So to South Africa 15 days or so does not appear to me to be excessive Have you asked if they have despatched it? More to the point have you been charged? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi All, Has anyone had any luck in the past 3 months ordering from the General Register Office in the UK. I ordered a document in January, on the 15 March, after I queried it , I received an e-mail saying they would re-process my application, yet to-date I still have not received anything. I am thinking this is due to our POSTAL SERVICE ?? Regards Barbara

So at its very earliest it would have been despatched Tuesday 17th March Today would the tenth working day since, which does not sound excessive to me Personally I would give it a week and see if it arrives Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 31/03/2015 18:58, Barbara & Leon Rochoy via wrote: > > Thanks for your reply, payment was made and taken, this is the reply from > my query, e-mailed to me on the Sun: 15 March at 01.49 pm > > "Thank you for your enquiry. > Birth Certificate: George William Brooks > We are sorry you have not received a certificate from a recent order. > We have requested that our certificate production team process your > application again within two working days. > Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused by the delay." > > > I don't want to keep asking if it's our systems failure > > Barbara

They are usually very efficient, turn round with GRO index reference about 8 days, without will take a little longer (there was a warning to that effect) So to South Africa 15 days or so does not appear to me to be excessive Have you asked if they have despatched it? More to the point have you been charged? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 31/03/2015 18:38, Barbara & Leon Rochoy via wrote: > Hi All, > > > > Has anyone had any luck in the past 3 months ordering from the General > Register Office in the UK. > > > > I ordered a document in January, on the 15 March, after I queried it , I > received an e-mail saying they would re-process my application, yet to-date > I still have not received anything. > > > > I am thinking this is due to our POSTAL SERVICE ?? > > > > Regards > > Barbara

Hi Listers I'm trying to help a friend of mine. All they have got is GEORGE DESMOND b. 5/12/1887 d. 7/10/1941 and his wife MARGARET b. 22/11/1887 d. 17/10/1945 I see there is a gravestone for them on Eggsa and they are buried in the North End Cemetary, PE. There is also a DN for him which I will request from the CT Archives. I was wondering there is anyone on the list that has anything about the family. They know they were from Ireland but that is that. Anyone searching this family or anyone who has anything else about this family would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Patty

Hi Lucky I don't have any of the HUDSON family that you are looking for in my database of HUDSON's, but I suggest that you look at the 1820 Settlers and also the NAAIRS databases. Good luck From: Laquita Belinfante <belinfante@telkomsa.net> Date: Sunday, 29 March 2015 21:42 To: Megan Hudson <megan@business-zone.co.za>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: RE: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Cecelia Margaret Frances (nee Duncan) and Florence Katherine Louise Frances Hello Megan HUDSON. Sorry, that I can't help with you query, but I am looking for the HUDSON part of my family, maybe you can help me? I am looking for ANY information on Charles William, no date X Johanna Weldinia (Eveldina) BRANDT, parents of Anna Antoinette HUNSON b. Venterdorp 1892. Also Annie Antoinette HUDSON b. 1854, Cape Town, d. 1939 Transvaal, X Francis William JAMES, 1850- 1858, X 2 Jan 1872 Cape of Good Hope, they had 7 children, whom I have the names of. I would be very happy if you could help me with this family. Lucky ( a JAMES descendant) -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Megan Hudson via Sent: 29 March 2015 05:16 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Cecelia Margaret Frances (nee Duncan) and Florence Katherine Louise Frances I am looking for Cecelia Margaret Frances (nee Duncan, born +-1847 in Scotland) who moved from the UK to SA in about 1883 after the death of her husband (name unknown). She had four daughters: Margaret Frances, who died from pleurisy or pneumonia Adelaide Frances, who emigrated to Australia or America Alice Frances b. 1878 who married a lawyer named Armstrong who was a heavy drinker and whom she apparently had to lock in the house the night before a big case to prevent him from getting drunk! Florence Katherine Louise Frances b. 1879, married George Harris in 1900 in Port Elizabeth and died 26/07/1960 in Durban. She was my gr-grandmother. Information that we have tells us that Cecelia Margaret Frances was housekeeper to the Lovemore family (a prominent 1820 Settler family) on their farm in Queenstown. I would love any additional genealogical information about any of these women, as well as any anecdotal information. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hello Megan HUDSON. Sorry, that I can't help with you query, but I am looking for the HUDSON part of my family, maybe you can help me? I am looking for ANY information on Charles William, no date X Johanna Weldinia (Eveldina) BRANDT, parents of Anna Antoinette HUNSON b. Venterdorp 1892. Also Annie Antoinette HUDSON b. 1854, Cape Town, d. 1939 Transvaal, X Francis William JAMES, 1850- 1858, X 2 Jan 1872 Cape of Good Hope, they had 7 children, whom I have the names of. I would be very happy if you could help me with this family. Lucky ( a JAMES descendant) -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Megan Hudson via Sent: 29 March 2015 05:16 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Cecelia Margaret Frances (nee Duncan) and Florence Katherine Louise Frances I am looking for Cecelia Margaret Frances (nee Duncan, born +-1847 in Scotland) who moved from the UK to SA in about 1883 after the death of her husband (name unknown). She had four daughters: Margaret Frances, who died from pleurisy or pneumonia Adelaide Frances, who emigrated to Australia or America Alice Frances b. 1878 who married a lawyer named Armstrong who was a heavy drinker and whom she apparently had to lock in the house the night before a big case to prevent him from getting drunk! Florence Katherine Louise Frances b. 1879, married George Harris in 1900 in Port Elizabeth and died 26/07/1960 in Durban. She was my gr-grandmother. Information that we have tells us that Cecelia Margaret Frances was housekeeper to the Lovemore family (a prominent 1820 Settler family) on their farm in Queenstown. I would love any additional genealogical information about any of these women, as well as any anecdotal information. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

I am looking for Cecelia Margaret Frances (nee Duncan, born +-1847 in Scotland) who moved from the UK to SA in about 1883 after the death of her husband (name unknown). She had four daughters: Margaret Frances, who died from pleurisy or pneumonia Adelaide Frances, who emigrated to Australia or America Alice Frances b. 1878 who married a lawyer named Armstrong who was a heavy drinker and whom she apparently had to lock in the house the night before a big case to prevent him from getting drunk! Florence Katherine Louise Frances b. 1879, married George Harris in 1900 in Port Elizabeth and died 26/07/1960 in Durban. She was my gr-grandmother. Information that we have tells us that Cecelia Margaret Frances was housekeeper to the Lovemore family (a prominent 1820 Settler family) on their farm in Queenstown. I would love any additional genealogical information about any of these women, as well as any anecdotal information.

Magda and Keith Thank you for your replies. I did have future research in mind when I posed this question. Lucky --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com