In the 1970's there was a Briton who was FireChief in Pietermaritzburg. Not sure of his name spelling. John -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sigrid de Wit via Sent: 12 June 2015 09:21 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Egram Briton Hi all, I am looking for information on the descendants of Egram Briton (sometimes also spelled Brit(t)an or Brit(t)ain) LIGHTFOOT, who was born in 1841 in Bedfordshire, England, died 1902 in South Africa. He had four sons and four daughters, and I know of at least four cousins who all had that Egram Briton first name: one Egram Briton Hanekom, one Egram Briton Gibbons and no fewer than two Egram Briton Lightfoots! There are several Egram Britons in Naairs and I was hoping to complete my family tree with missing information and possibly even connect with descendants that are still alive. Egram Briton was the brother of my direct ancestor and the name can be traced back as far as 1781 when the first son of Francis Britain and Elizabeth Egram was given this name. It is such a strange and special name, there must be people here that know or have known people with this name! Thanks in advance! Regards, Sigrid. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5961 / Virus Database: 4360/9999 - Release Date: 06/12/15

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Hi all, I am looking for information on the descendants of Egram Briton (sometimes also spelled Brit(t)an or Brit(t)ain) LIGHTFOOT, who was born in 1841 in Bedfordshire, England, died 1902 in South Africa. He had four sons and four daughters, and I know of at least four cousins who all had that Egram Briton first name: one Egram Briton Hanekom, one Egram Briton Gibbons and no fewer than two Egram Briton Lightfoots! There are several Egram Britons in Naairs and I was hoping to complete my family tree with missing information and possibly even connect with descendants that are still alive. Egram Briton was the brother of my direct ancestor and the name can be traced back as far as 1781 when the first son of Francis Britain and Elizabeth Egram was given this name. It is such a strange and special name, there must be people here that know or have known people with this name! Thanks in advance! Regards, Sigrid.

Transcribed from originals at the British Library http://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/index.php/grahamstown-journal/1221-grahamstown-journal-1867-2-april-to-june Sue

Thanks Sonia, I am happy that it has been useful to you. It sure is very interesting history! The JONKER Stamouer summary is a great overview, however for those keen to know a more detail, the Familia 2-2015 article will be well worth getting. It can be ordered from eGGSA or will be received free upon joining as a member - see http://www.eggsa.org/FAQ-membership.htm#goodies - it is great value for money. Regards, Martina Louw. (Brisbane) Message: 6 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 13:31:46 -0400 From: Sonia van Heerden <soniavh11@hotmail.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] New Article about JONKER To: "south-africa@rootsweb.com" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BLU168-W87BD9FE137A86602B8483ABBE0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Martina I am glad that I checked the South African rootsweb page today as I was going to download the Afrikaans version of your article to Google translator to read the story in English, though the translations are not very well done. I have no genealogical interest in the Jonker surname, but the story seemed interesting from what I could see in the recent Familia. So all I had to do was download the English version you had already prepared. Thank you Sonia Tkachuk van Heerden Toronto, Canada > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 07:27:35 +1000 > From: "Em Lo" <mlouw1@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] New article about the origins of the JONKER > progenitor published > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> > Cc: Jaco Strauss <jacostrauss@gmail.com> > Message-ID: <000c01d0a231$f01c0610$d0541230$@bigpond.net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am happy to announce that an in-depth article written by myself and > fellow genealogist Jaco Strauss about the (previously) controversial > origins of the South African JONKER progenitor has just been published > in the GGSA publication Familia [52] 2015-2. > > We believe the debate around Adolph Jonker's origins has now been > settled once and for all by the facts presented in this article. > > We spent a lot of time and effort doing rigorous documentary research, > we also analysed the DNA profiles of two separate lines of descent > from Adolph Jonker and came to the following conclusions: > > . Adolph Jonker was of Indonesian descent in his paternal line > > . Adolph Jonker was the son of free slaves Jonker van Makassar and > Rosetta van Java > > . Jonker van Makassar was not the same person as the so-called > Prince of Ternate, as previously alleged. > > An English summary of our article is available on the Stamouers > website at > http://www.stamouers.com/index.php/stamouers/surnames-h-to-j/231-jonke > r-adol > ph >

Sue...you are a Shining Star. John -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Mackay via Sent: 09 June 2015 12:52 PM To: SA List; ZA-IB List; EC List Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Extracts from the Grahamstown Journal January - March 1867 Transcribed from originals at the British Library http://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/index.php/grahamstown-journal/1220-grahamsto wn-journal-1867-1-january-to-march Sue ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5961 / Virus Database: 4355/9979 - Release Date: 06/09/15

Hi all, There is also HAEC for Eastern Cape marriages under KAB Regards Linda On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Rose McArthur via <south-africa@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Hello Daniel, > > Thank you for this information. I see that it begins in 1908 and goes up to > 1933. Do you know if there is a similar list which covers from about 1880 > to 1900? > > Best wishes, Rose > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Daniel Jacobs via < > south-africa@rootsweb.com > > wrote: > > > Dear Friends > > > > Ina Kingsley shared on the SA Genealogie list that references to Cape > Home > > Affairs marriages have been added to the NAAIRS-website. Go to > > http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl, choose KAB and > > make use of the acronym HAWC to search these records. There are more than > > 50 000 of them. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Daniel Jacobs > > > > Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na > > *https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING# > > <https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING#>* > > > > Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) > > Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) > > Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) > > Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) > > De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) > > Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) > > Ungerer (Swellendam) > > Smith (Wellington) > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Martina I am glad that I checked the South African rootsweb page today as I was going to download the Afrikaans version of your article to Google translator to read the story in English, though the translations are not very well done. I have no genealogical interest in the Jonker surname, but the story seemed interesting from what I could see in the recent Familia. So all I had to do was download the English version you had already prepared. Thank you Sonia Tkachuk van Heerden Toronto, Canada > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 07:27:35 +1000 > From: "Em Lo" <mlouw1@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] New article about the origins of the JONKER > pregenitor published > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> > Cc: Jaco Strauss <jacostrauss@gmail.com> > Message-ID: <000c01d0a231$f01c0610$d0541230$@bigpond.net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am happy to announce that an in-depth article written by myself and fellow > genealogist Jaco Strauss about the (previously) controversial origins of the > South African JONKER progenitor has just been published in the GGSA > publication Familia [52] 2015-2. > > > > We believe the debate around Adolph Jonker's origins has now been settled > once and for all by the facts presented in this article. > > > > We spent a lot of time and effort doing rigorous documentary research, we > also analysed the DNA profiles of two separate lines of descent from Adolph > Jonker and came to the following conclusions: > > . Adolph Jonker was of Indonesian descent in his paternal line > > . Adolph Jonker was the son of free slaves Jonker van Makassar and > Rosetta van Java > > . Jonker van Makassar was not the same person as the so-called > Prince of Ternate, as previously alleged. > > > > An English summary of our article is available on the Stamouers website at > http://www.stamouers.com/index.php/stamouers/surnames-h-to-j/231-jonker-adol > ph > > > > Kind regards, > > Martina Louw. > > (Brisbane, Australia) > > > > > > ------------------------------ >

Transcribed from originals at the British Library http://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/index.php/grahamstown-journal/1220-grahamstown-journal-1867-1-january-to-march Sue

Dear Albie I unfortunately do not know if any of the other Government Archives Home Affairs records have been data processed. Some of the document series - e.g Estate Papers- are data processed by all Government Archives - but regarding other documents series each Archive do their own prioritisation. Kind regards Daniel Ps I was an archivist in the Cape Archives in the late 80's/early 90's and have some knowledge of this. Have also assisted with the data processing of some of the records. The series I have worked on that made the biggest impression on me was Estate Papers for the First World War period. All those young men. Many of them with virtually no assets. Sometimes their last "pay check" still due been their biggest asset. I can remember that some of them died at Dellville Wood. Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na *https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING# <https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING#>* Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Albie <albie@astonbay.co.za> wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > Which acronym does one need to access the Natal and Freestate data? > > Regards, Albie > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Jacobs via > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 9:02 PM > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] CAPE HOME AFFAIRS MARRIAGES ON NAAIRS > > Dear Friends > > Ina Kingsley shared on the SA Genealogie list that references to Cape Home > Affairs marriages have been added to the NAAIRS-website. Go to > http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl, choose KAB and > make use of the acronym HAWC to search these records. There are more than > 50 000 of them. > > Kind regards > > Daniel Jacobs > > Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na > *https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING# > <https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING#>* > > Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) > Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe > (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De > Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith > (Wellington) > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

KAB ¨Cape and NAB Natal -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Albie via Sent: 09 June 2015 09:46 AM To: danielmalanjacobs@gmail.com; south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] CAPE HOME AFFAIRS MARRIAGES ON NAAIRS Hi Daniel, Which acronym does one need to access the Natal and Freestate data? Regards, Albie -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Jacobs via Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 9:02 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] CAPE HOME AFFAIRS MARRIAGES ON NAAIRS Dear Friends Ina Kingsley shared on the SA Genealogie list that references to Cape Home Affairs marriages have been added to the NAAIRS-website. Go to http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl, choose KAB and make use of the acronym HAWC to search these records. There are more than 50 000 of them. Kind regards Daniel Jacobs Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na *https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING# <https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING#>* Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5961 / Virus Database: 4355/9979 - Release Date: 06/09/15

Hi Daniel, Which acronym does one need to access the Natal and Freestate data? Regards, Albie -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Jacobs via Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 9:02 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] CAPE HOME AFFAIRS MARRIAGES ON NAAIRS Dear Friends Ina Kingsley shared on the SA Genealogie list that references to Cape Home Affairs marriages have been added to the NAAIRS-website. Go to http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl, choose KAB and make use of the acronym HAWC to search these records. There are more than 50 000 of them. Kind regards Daniel Jacobs Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na *https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING# <https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING#>* Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Morning Darryl,This site is very useful and has helped me a great deal. However I am looking for an estate in the late 1980's but have not seen any in those years. Have they been moved to another site or possibly not yet recorded? Regards, Rod g From: rodg@tiscali.co.za Sent: 2015/05/19 04:40:31 PM To: rodg@tiscali.co.za Cc: Subject: FW: [ZA-EC] Master of the High Court Online From: rodg@tiscali.co.za Sent: 2015/03/05 05:54:48 AM To: rodg@tiscali.co.za Cc: Subject: FW: [ZA-EC] Master of the High Court Online From: darryl@allwrights.co.za Sent: 2011/09/10 11:09:40 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com,SOUTH-AFRICA-ORANGE-FREE-STATE@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: FW: [ZA-EC] Master of the High Court Online HI ALL MASTER OF THE HIGH COURT ESTATES UP UNTIL +/- 2008 ARE NOW ONLINE The link is https://icmsweb.justice.gov.za/mastersinformation DARRYL ALLWRIGHT ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am happy to announce that an in-depth article written by myself and fellow genealogist Jaco Strauss about the (previously) controversial origins of the South African JONKER progenitor has just been published in the GGSA publication Familia [52] 2015-2. We believe the debate around Adolph Jonker's origins has now been settled once and for all by the facts presented in this article. We spent a lot of time and effort doing rigorous documentary research, we also analysed the DNA profiles of two separate lines of descent from Adolph Jonker and came to the following conclusions: . Adolph Jonker was of Indonesian descent in his paternal line . Adolph Jonker was the son of free slaves Jonker van Makassar and Rosetta van Java . Jonker van Makassar was not the same person as the so-called Prince of Ternate, as previously alleged. An English summary of our article is available on the Stamouers website at http://www.stamouers.com/index.php/stamouers/surnames-h-to-j/231-jonker-adol ph Kind regards, Martina Louw. (Brisbane, Australia)

There is also HANC ­ for the northern cape ­ I will be putting the references for the different towns for the western cape on my website soon ­ and what years they cover as well Cheers Heather From: Linda Farrell via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: Linda Farrell <ozfarrells@gmail.com>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 6:29 AM To: Rose McArthur <rose.mus@gmail.com>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] CAPE HOME AFFAIRS MARRIAGES ON NAAIRS Hi all, There is also HAEC for Eastern Cape marriages under KAB Regards Linda On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Rose McArthur via <south-africa@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Hello Daniel, > > Thank you for this information. I see that it begins in 1908 and goes up to > 1933. Do you know if there is a similar list which covers from about 1880 > to 1900? > > Best wishes, Rose > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Daniel Jacobs via < > south-africa@rootsweb.com >> > wrote: > >> > Dear Friends >> > >> > Ina Kingsley shared on the SA Genealogie list that references to Cape > Home >> > Affairs marriages have been added to the NAAIRS-website. Go to >> > http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl, choose KAB and >> > make use of the acronym HAWC to search these records. There are more than >> > 50 000 of them. >> > >> > Kind regards >> > >> > Daniel Jacobs >> > >> > Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na >> > *https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING# >> > <https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING#>* >> > >> > Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) >> > Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) >> > Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) >> > Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) >> > De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) >> > Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) >> > Ungerer (Swellendam) >> > Smith (Wellington) >> > >>> > > >>> > > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Daniel, Thank you for this information. I see that it begins in 1908 and goes up to 1933. Do you know if there is a similar list which covers from about 1880 to 1900? Best wishes, Rose On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Daniel Jacobs via <south-africa@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Dear Friends > > Ina Kingsley shared on the SA Genealogie list that references to Cape Home > Affairs marriages have been added to the NAAIRS-website. Go to > http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl, choose KAB and > make use of the acronym HAWC to search these records. There are more than > 50 000 of them. > > Kind regards > > Daniel Jacobs > > Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na > *https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING# > <https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING#>* > > Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) > Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) > Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) > Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) > De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) > Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) > Ungerer (Swellendam) > Smith (Wellington) > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Friends Ina Kingsley shared on the SA Genealogie list that references to Cape Home Affairs marriages have been added to the NAAIRS-website. Go to http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl, choose KAB and make use of the acronym HAWC to search these records. There are more than 50 000 of them. Kind regards Daniel Jacobs Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na *https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING# <https://www.dropbox.com/home/GENEALOGIESE%20HANDLEIDING#>* Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) > >

Hi Dorothy Her marriage is shown here so definitely 1906 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11809-49570-67?cc=2063749 Take care Lynn -----Original Message----- From: DorothyMowlam via Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 5:56 PM To: 'Bart Simon' ; south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Aubrey Wingate (wynne) GIBSON Hi Bart, Thanks for the link - it must refer to the snippet below, which someone found whilst looking through a Law Book - it looks like her request for a divorce was maybe not granted. Subject: Re: [SO "In re Gibson (1912) 33 Natal Law Reports 204: At common law a sentence of imprisonment other than a life sentence is not a ground of divorce, What I Can't understand, is the date of marriage given by her in her request for a divorce. 9 Oct 1901. I also wonder if they were still both in prison at that time. Natal Civil Marriages -LDS Aletta Sophia VAN DER SCHYFF x Babanango 01.11.1906 Aubrey Wynne GIBSON 22yrs (*1884) Aletta 15 yrs at time of marriage. Permission, parents Thanks again, Dorothy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List Looking for anything on ancestors of: Adolphus ST JOSEPH b 1877 in Bengal India m Dora LANGLANDS b 1887 Umzinto (?) Natal Father: John St Joseph Mother: Ellen Broadway Casualty of Boer War : wounded at Boschbult Mar 1902 I know who the children are - trying to go backwards Any suggestions/ideas much appreciated Thanks Marcella Findlay Shames

Google translate is shocking .... Especially from English to Afrikaans - I get complete garbage - Heather MacAlister > On 08 Jun 2015, at 9:30 AM, Keith Meintjes via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Google Translate works very well. Try Dutch as well as Afrikaans. > > Keith > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: 02:39 AM EDT, 06/08/2015 > From: andrea franks via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > To: "SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com" <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Translation: Afrikaans to English > > Dear All, > > Can someone please translate:-Oudste seun van oorledende - was aanwesig by > dood - Moeder invaliede - onbevoegd om sake te behartig. > Off a Death Information certificate, for Tancred Raphael MELIS, his mother > was a PHILLIPSON > > > Regards > Andrea Franks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message