You guys are great. I am so thankful to have access to this website. I live in USA and have struggled to find numbers, etc. Thank you thank you -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of south-africa-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:01 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 118 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Zimbabwe death notices (Mary Shearar) 2. M'Crystal line (Shann Albretsen) 3. Re: M'Crystal line (Keith Meintjes) 4. Re: M'Crystal line (Keith Meintjes) 5. Re: M'Crystal line (John Deare) 6. Re: M'Crystal line (Marielle Ford) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:01:21 +0200 From: "Mary Shearar" <mary@shearar.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe death notices To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <448BB49CF3DF4B6297428AA09B0D1E15@snowcrown> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yes Peter and thanks so much they are both mine. It would best if you just send to me mary@shearar.com Uncle and aunt of mine on my fathers side He was interested in butterflies {cant remember the name] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Whitfield" <pelejab@gmail.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe death notices > Hi Mary > > there are 2 LANNIN's listed: > Ernest William LANNIN - DR 71/109 and > Verma Margaret LANNIN - DR 74/117/32 > If these are yours I can either send you the links to the photos of the > death notices or download them and send you the photos direct to your > off-list address (ie the shearer dot com one) > > cheers > > Pete > > On 4 April 2011 09:38, Mary Shearar <mary@shearar.com> wrote: > >> Dear Pete, >> In checking the lists for Viv HI -J did you come across the name >> LANNIN. >> Regards Mary Shearar. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pete Whitfield" <pelejab@gmail.com> >> To: <vivsmith@hotmail.com>; <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 5:43 PM >> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe death notices >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3548 - Release Date: 04/03/11 19:40:00 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:19:57 -0600 From: Shann Albretsen <AlbretsenSN@ldschurch.org> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line To: "south-africa@rootsweb.com" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <103E367D98970F44BE6F69ABC985524313905DE448@MBX03.ldschurch.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Has anyone any information on the M'Crystal line? My maiden name is M'Crystal and the family all came from Pretoria, Johannesburg, etc. I know I still have 2 uncles - Stanley and Colin M'Crystal still living [my father's brothers]- but have no contact. I heard an aunt died a few years ago. I am looking for information on Sheila [Pendrich] M'Crystal and Michael M'Crystal. I think Michael's information was in the Star just recently. How can I get that information? Sheila and Michael are from Bedfordview area. Any help on this line with current information or how I could access the Star to get obituaries would be wonderful. Thanks Shann Albretsen DI Field Group Office 801-336-3030 NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 15:13:11 -0400 From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <928PDeTmL3312S01.1302030791@web01.cms.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Start dialing! http://phonebook.yellowpages.co.za/search.jsp?query=m%27crystal&location=&searchCategory=&submitBt=Find&search=1 1-7 of 7 results Sort by Ascending Order Descending Order C H M'crystal 21 Johnst Bryanston , sandton , Johannesburg , Gauteng 0117064822 Ee M'crystal 29 Dickie Fritz Av , East Rand , Gauteng 0116099021 G J M'crystal 29 Dfritzav , East Rand , Gauteng 0116096315 Ge M'crystal Marine Glen 10 Marine View Av Athlone , durban , Kwazulu-natal 0315637540 M M M'crystal 25 Alonrd Blairgowrie , randburg , Johannesburg , Gauteng 0117874391 Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 02:26:51 PM EDT From: Shann Albretsen <AlbretsenSN@ldschurch.org> To: "south-africa@rootsweb.com" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line Has anyone any information on the M'Crystal line? My maiden name is M'Crystal and the family all came from Pretoria, Johannesburg, etc. I know I still have 2 uncles - Stanley and Colin M'Crystal still living [my father's brothers]- but have no contact. I heard an aunt died a few years ago. I am looking for information on Sheila [Pendrich] M'Crystal and Michael M'Crystal. I think Michael's information was in the Star just recently. How can I get that information? Sheila and Michael are from Bedfordview area. Any help on this line with current information or how I could access the Star to get obituaries would be wonderful. Thanks Shann Albretsen DI Field Group Office 801-336-3030 NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 15:19:42 -0400 From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <031PDeTsQ7040S02.1302031182@web02.cms.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Try a Google search on m'crystal south africa You will find many hits, including: http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.mccrystal/59/mb.ashx possibly a progenitor. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 02:26:51 PM EDT From: Shann Albretsen <AlbretsenSN@ldschurch.org> To: "south-africa@rootsweb.com" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line Has anyone any information on the M'Crystal line? My maiden name is M'Crystal and the family all came from Pretoria, Johannesburg, etc. I know I still have 2 uncles - Stanley and Colin M'Crystal still living [my father's brothers]- but have no contact. I heard an aunt died a few years ago. I am looking for information on Sheila [Pendrich] M'Crystal and Michael M'Crystal. I think Michael's information was in the Star just recently. How can I get that information? Sheila and Michael are from Bedfordview area. Any help on this line with current information or how I could access the Star to get obituaries would be wonderful. Thanks Shann Albretsen DI Field Group Office 801-336-3030 NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 21:46:25 +0200 From: "John Deare" <dearej@mweb.co.za> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <201104051946.p35JkVbK021002@mail.rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There's one in Pietermaritzburg 033 343 4395 _____ From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 05 April 2011 09:13 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line Start dialing! http://phonebook.yellowpages.co.za/search.jsp?query=m%27crystal <http://phonebook.yellowpages.co.za/search.jsp?query=m%27crystal&location=&s earchCategory=&submitBt=Find&search=1> &location=&searchCategory=&submitBt=Find&search=1 1-7 of 7 results Sort by Ascending Order Descending Order C H M'crystal 21 Johnst Bryanston , sandton , Johannesburg , Gauteng 0117064822 Ee M'crystal 29 Dickie Fritz Av , East Rand , Gauteng 0116099021 G J M'crystal 29 Dfritzav , East Rand , Gauteng 0116096315 Ge M'crystal Marine Glen 10 Marine View Av Athlone , durban , Kwazulu-natal 0315637540 M M M'crystal 25 Alonrd Blairgowrie , randburg , Johannesburg , Gauteng 0117874391 Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 02:26:51 PM EDT From: Shann Albretsen <AlbretsenSN@ldschurch.org> To: "south-africa@rootsweb.com" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line Has anyone any information on the M'Crystal line? My maiden name is M'Crystal and the family all came from Pretoria, Johannesburg, etc. I know I still have 2 uncles - Stanley and Colin M'Crystal still living [my father's brothers]- but have no contact. I heard an aunt died a few years ago. I am looking for information on Sheila [Pendrich] M'Crystal and Michael M'Crystal. I think Michael's information was in the Star just recently. How can I get that information? Sheila and Michael are from Bedfordview area. Any help on this line with current information or how I could access the Star to get obituaries would be wonderful. Thanks Shann Albretsen DI Field Group Office 801-336-3030 NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3552 - Release Date: 04/05/11 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 08:57:19 +0200 From: "Marielle Ford" <marielle@intekom.co.za> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <6682FC001CF54BFA801E0C544B507DE0@userd109680ce7> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Sandra MCRYSTAL was a Miss South Africa in the 1980's. try Google. Marielle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shann Albretsen" <AlbretsenSN@ldschurch.org> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:19 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line > Has anyone any information on the M'Crystal line? > My maiden name is M'Crystal and the family all came from Pretoria, > Johannesburg, etc. > I know I still have 2 uncles - Stanley and Colin M'Crystal still living > [my father's brothers]- but have no contact. I heard an aunt died a few > years ago. > I am looking for information on Sheila [Pendrich] M'Crystal and Michael > M'Crystal. I think Michael's information was in the Star just recently. > How can I get that information? Sheila and Michael are from Bedfordview > area. > Any help on this line with current information or how I could access the > Star to get obituaries would be wonderful. ------------------------------ To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 118 ********************************************

There's one in Pietermaritzburg 033 343 4395 _____ From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 05 April 2011 09:13 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line Start dialing! http://phonebook.yellowpages.co.za/search.jsp?query=m%27crystal <http://phonebook.yellowpages.co.za/search.jsp?query=m%27crystal&location=&s earchCategory=&submitBt=Find&search=1> &location=&searchCategory=&submitBt=Find&search=1 1-7 of 7 results Sort by Ascending Order Descending Order C H M'crystal 21 Johnst Bryanston , sandton , Johannesburg , Gauteng 0117064822 Ee M'crystal 29 Dickie Fritz Av , East Rand , Gauteng 0116099021 G J M'crystal 29 Dfritzav , East Rand , Gauteng 0116096315 Ge M'crystal Marine Glen 10 Marine View Av Athlone , durban , Kwazulu-natal 0315637540 M M M'crystal 25 Alonrd Blairgowrie , randburg , Johannesburg , Gauteng 0117874391 Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 02:26:51 PM EDT From: Shann Albretsen <AlbretsenSN@ldschurch.org> To: "south-africa@rootsweb.com" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line Has anyone any information on the M'Crystal line? My maiden name is M'Crystal and the family all came from Pretoria, Johannesburg, etc. I know I still have 2 uncles - Stanley and Colin M'Crystal still living [my father's brothers]- but have no contact. I heard an aunt died a few years ago. I am looking for information on Sheila [Pendrich] M'Crystal and Michael M'Crystal. I think Michael's information was in the Star just recently. How can I get that information? Sheila and Michael are from Bedfordview area. Any help on this line with current information or how I could access the Star to get obituaries would be wonderful. Thanks Shann Albretsen DI Field Group Office 801-336-3030 NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3552 - Release Date: 04/05/11

Just a short note from me to say " thank you " for the Zimbabwe Family History link which allowed me to find an uncle of mine plus information relating to his two marriages and a date of death. As we know , it pays to persevere. Regards,Graeme.

Yes Peter and thanks so much they are both mine. It would best if you just send to me mary@shearar.com Uncle and aunt of mine on my fathers side He was interested in butterflies {cant remember the name] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Whitfield" <pelejab@gmail.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe death notices > Hi Mary > > there are 2 LANNIN's listed: > Ernest William LANNIN - DR 71/109 and > Verma Margaret LANNIN - DR 74/117/32 > If these are yours I can either send you the links to the photos of the > death notices or download them and send you the photos direct to your > off-list address (ie the shearer dot com one) > > cheers > > Pete > > On 4 April 2011 09:38, Mary Shearar <mary@shearar.com> wrote: > >> Dear Pete, >> In checking the lists for Viv HI -J did you come across the name >> LANNIN. >> Regards Mary Shearar. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pete Whitfield" <pelejab@gmail.com> >> To: <vivsmith@hotmail.com>; <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 5:43 PM >> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe death notices >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3548 - Release Date: 04/03/11 19:40:00

Hi Peter and Russell Thanks for your help. I have looked through the original LDS films for 1962 of Zimbabwe, but there was nothing. Thanks for the Google idea. My husband remembers seeing the medals as a child, but does not know what happened to them. Now he knows,. Kind regards Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <south-africa-request@rootsweb.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:10 PM Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 114 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Rochoy" <blrochoy@tiscali.co.za> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 7:01 AM > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe > > >> Hi >> >> On Zimbabwe, does anyone have any ideas on how to find out a date of >> death >> in 1962. >> >> My husbands grandfather was Eugene Robert Rochoy, a retired signalman of >> the South Africa Railways, according to my husband and his aunt, while >> on holiday in " Umtali, Rhodesia" (Mutare, Zimbabwe) in 1962 he died of >> a >> heart attack, He would have been 62 years old. We do not know if he >> was buried or cremated there. His ' wife' Josephine Rochoy, although >> divorced, was on holiday with him, at the time. Their religion was >> Catholic. >> >> There is no Death Notice for him here in South Africa, and I have not >> been >> able to find a Death Notice registered in Zimbabwe. >> >> I would like to find out the exact date of his death, and or any copies >> of >> documents that relate to his death. If anyone is able to help it would be >> much appreciated. >> >> Thanking you >> Barbara >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 12:01:35 -0700 > From: "Russell" <rpcdoc@shaw.ca> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN: ROCHOY > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <06F65EA3812B4DC8A61D1F0B72CD6FB7@HPPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Dear Barbara > > If you Google his name some of his medals appear on an auction site. > > Russell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Rochoy" <blrochoy@tiscali.co.za> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 7:01 AM > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe > > >> Hi >> >> On Zimbabwe, does anyone have any ideas on how to find out a date of >> death >> in 1962. >> >> My husbands grandfather was Eugene Robert Rochoy, a retired signalman of >> the South Africa Railways, according to my husband and his aunt, while >> on holiday in " Umtali, Rhodesia" (Mutare, Zimbabwe) in 1962 he died of >> a >> heart attack, He would have been 62 years old. We do not know if he >> was buried or cremated there. His ' wife' Josephine Rochoy, although >> divorced, was on holiday with him, at the time. Their religion was >> Catholic. >> >> There is no Death Notice for him here in South Africa, and I have not >> been >> able to find a Death Notice registered in Zimbabwe. >> >> I would like to find out the exact date of his death, and or any copies >> of >> documents that relate to his death. If anyone is able to help it would be >> much appreciated. >> >> Thanking you >> Barbara >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------

The nearest is Victoria...cant be Victoria Falls, so Victoria probably applies. It was often listed as that - it was a Fort during the wars (old ones) so worth a try ?. Cheers Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell" <rpcdoc@shaw.ca> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN > Dear Jean > > Thank for the reply. Here's the problem, though: there's no choice for > either Masvingo or Fort Victoria. Here is the list of districts. It may be > that they didn't film the Notices in question. > > Regards > > Russell > > > Beitbridge > Belingwe > Bikita > Bindura > Binga > Bubi > Buhera > Bulalima Mangwe > Bulawayo > Centenary > Charter > Chibi > Chilimanzi > Chipinga > Chipingu > Chiredzi > Chirozi > Chwedgi > Cmanzi > Darwin > Filabusi > Gatooma > Gmonzi > Gokwe > Goromonzi > Gutu > Gwanda > Gwelo > Hartley > Insiza > Inyanga > Kariba > Lomagundi > Lupane > Makoni > Marandellas > Market Square at Salisbury > Matobo > Mazoe > Melsetter > Mrewa > Mtoko > Mudzi > Mutasa > Ndanga (Zaka) > Nkai > Nuanetsi > Nyamandhlovu > Nyo > Que Que > Rushinga > Salisbury > Selukwe > Shabani > Shamva > Sharani > Sipolilo > Umtali > Umvuma > Umzingwane > Urungwe > Victoria > Wankie > Wedza > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean Tuckey" <ronjeantuc@clear.net.nz> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 5:21 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN > > >> Dear Russell >> >> I am sure you will be bombarded but I lived there for 40 years and >> Zvishavane was SHABANI and Masvingo was FORT VICTORIA - hope that helps >> >> Cheers >> Jean antique geneaholic New Zealand >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Russell" <rpcdoc@shaw.ca> >> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:57 AM >> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN >> >> >>> Dear Pete >>> >>> Is Zvishanvane a part of Bulawayo? >>> >>> Also, what district in the Zimbabwean Death Notice section would >>> correspond >>> to Masvingo? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Russell > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I found this web site http://www.angelfire.com/folk/pipfamilytree/pafg08.htm#277 Which had this information: David Gordon MACLEOD died in 1947. He married Agnes Maude ISTED. Agnes Maude ISTED [Parents] died in 1968. She married David Gordon MACLEOD. Macleod, husband of Agnes was a Transkei magistrate - they had 6 children - 5 girls and 1 boy The name of the husband is wrong -- it was actually Robert MacLeod. But I'd still like to get in touch with the compiler of the web site. Unfortunately e-mail sent to the address of the compiler given there bounced. It's called "Pip's family tree" and the address given is: venus@mweb.co.zw Does anyone know who the owner might be? The main families being researched seem to be DUFFEY, EMSLIE, ISTED AND FORBES. -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com http://hayesfam.posterous.com/ E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk

I had a friend who lived in Fort Victoria, Southern Rhodesia that was about 1965. The name of the town is/was at the time Fort Victoria. Lynette from OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Tuckey" <ronjeantuc@clear.net.nz> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN > The nearest is Victoria...cant be Victoria Falls, so Victoria probably > applies. It was often listed as that - it was a Fort during the wars > (old > ones) so worth a try ?. > > Cheers > Jean > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russell" <rpcdoc@shaw.ca> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 3:51 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN > > >> Dear Jean >> >> Thank for the reply. Here's the problem, though: there's no choice for >> either Masvingo or Fort Victoria. Here is the list of districts. It may >> be >> that they didn't film the Notices in question. >> >> Regards >> >> Russell >> >> >> Beitbridge >> Belingwe >> Bikita >> Bindura >> Binga >> Bubi >> Buhera >> Bulalima Mangwe >> Bulawayo >> Centenary >> Charter >> Chibi >> Chilimanzi >> Chipinga >> Chipingu >> Chiredzi >> Chirozi >> Chwedgi >> Cmanzi >> Darwin >> Filabusi >> Gatooma >> Gmonzi >> Gokwe >> Goromonzi >> Gutu >> Gwanda >> Gwelo >> Hartley >> Insiza >> Inyanga >> Kariba >> Lomagundi >> Lupane >> Makoni >> Marandellas >> Market Square at Salisbury >> Matobo >> Mazoe >> Melsetter >> Mrewa >> Mtoko >> Mudzi >> Mutasa >> Ndanga (Zaka) >> Nkai >> Nuanetsi >> Nyamandhlovu >> Nyo >> Que Que >> Rushinga >> Salisbury >> Selukwe >> Shabani >> Shamva >> Sharani >> Sipolilo >> Umtali >> Umvuma >> Umzingwane >> Urungwe >> Victoria >> Wankie >> Wedza >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jean Tuckey" <ronjeantuc@clear.net.nz> >> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 5:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN >> >> >>> Dear Russell >>> >>> I am sure you will be bombarded but I lived there for 40 years and >>> Zvishavane was SHABANI and Masvingo was FORT VICTORIA - hope that helps >>> >>> Cheers >>> Jean antique geneaholic New Zealand >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Russell" <rpcdoc@shaw.ca> >>> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:57 AM >>> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN >>> >>> >>>> Dear Pete >>>> >>>> Is Zvishanvane a part of Bulawayo? >>>> >>>> Also, what district in the Zimbabwean Death Notice section would >>>> correspond >>>> to Masvingo? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Russell >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try a Google search on m'crystal south africa You will find many hits, including: http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.mccrystal/59/mb.ashx possibly a progenitor. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 02:26:51 PM EDT From: Shann Albretsen <AlbretsenSN@ldschurch.org> To: "south-africa@rootsweb.com" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line Has anyone any information on the M'Crystal line? My maiden name is M'Crystal and the family all came from Pretoria, Johannesburg, etc. I know I still have 2 uncles - Stanley and Colin M'Crystal still living [my father's brothers]- but have no contact. I heard an aunt died a few years ago. I am looking for information on Sheila [Pendrich] M'Crystal and Michael M'Crystal. I think Michael's information was in the Star just recently. How can I get that information? Sheila and Michael are from Bedfordview area. Any help on this line with current information or how I could access the Star to get obituaries would be wonderful. Thanks Shann Albretsen DI Field Group Office 801-336-3030 NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Start dialing! http://phonebook.yellowpages.co.za/search.jsp?query=m%27crystal&location=&searchCategory=&submitBt=Find&search=1 1-7 of 7 results Sort by Ascending Order Descending Order C H M'crystal 21 Johnst Bryanston , sandton , Johannesburg , Gauteng 0117064822 Ee M'crystal 29 Dickie Fritz Av , East Rand , Gauteng 0116099021 G J M'crystal 29 Dfritzav , East Rand , Gauteng 0116096315 Ge M'crystal Marine Glen 10 Marine View Av Athlone , durban , Kwazulu-natal 0315637540 M M M'crystal 25 Alonrd Blairgowrie , randburg , Johannesburg , Gauteng 0117874391 Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 02:26:51 PM EDT From: Shann Albretsen <AlbretsenSN@ldschurch.org> To: "south-africa@rootsweb.com" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] M'Crystal line Has anyone any information on the M'Crystal line? My maiden name is M'Crystal and the family all came from Pretoria, Johannesburg, etc. I know I still have 2 uncles - Stanley and Colin M'Crystal still living [my father's brothers]- but have no contact. I heard an aunt died a few years ago. I am looking for information on Sheila [Pendrich] M'Crystal and Michael M'Crystal. I think Michael's information was in the Star just recently. How can I get that information? Sheila and Michael are from Bedfordview area. Any help on this line with current information or how I could access the Star to get obituaries would be wonderful. Thanks Shann Albretsen DI Field Group Office 801-336-3030 NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lynette, Thanks for reply. I am related. Yvonne was my aunt and Harold her husband re-married when she died. Your friend Adrienne was married to Godfrey who passed away in 2007. My cousins, James and Chippy are still in contact with Adrienne and visit them when they go to Natal. There is some info on this family line that I do not have, so it will be great if I can fill in the gaps. Take care, Glynis From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lyn Oakes Sent: 05 April 2011 01:11 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Gloria Yvonne Richardson THIS MESSAGE IS FOR GLYNIS Hello Glynis, You asked if Pete had any info on Yvonne. I am a very old friend of Adrienne Richardson who was married to a brother of Yvonne's husband. I live in the UK and Adrienne lives in Kwa Zulu Natal. Are you a member of the family? What info are you looking for, re the accident? If you give me some details of yourself I could contact "A" and ask if she would like to correspond with you. Or pass on to you info she might be happy to give. Sincerely Lynette Surrey -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of glynis Sent: 05 April 2011 09:49 To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN Hi Pete, I have been following this link rather closely and noticed on your email below that you mentioned a car accident of Joan HARRIS. Did you also perhaps know of the car accident of Gloria Yvonne Richardson who also died in a car accident in 1967, Umtali with her baby daughter? I did get some info on her accident, however if you know of anything else or anyone else on this list, I would love to hear from you. She was my aunt. Regards, Glynis ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3550 - Release Date: 04/04/11

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Hi Russell To help and for others searching too.. ..Old name Post-1982 name Chipinga -- Chipinge Enkeldoorn -- Chivhu Essexvale -- Esigodini Fort Victoria -- Masvingo Gwelo -- Gweru Gatooma -- Kadoma Hartley -- Chegutu Marandellas -- Marondera Matopos -- Matobo Melsetter -- Chimanimani Que Que -- Kwekwe Umtali -- Mutare Salisbury -- Harare Selukwe -- Shurugwi Shabani -- Zvishavane Sinoia -- Chinhoyi Wankie -- Hwange Inyanga -- Nyanga Magula - Mhangura Take care Lynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell" <rpcdoc@shaw.ca> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN > Dear Pete > > Is Zvishanvane a part of Bulawayo? > > Also, what district in the Zimbabwean Death Notice section would > correspond > to Masvingo?

On 5 Apr 2011, at 9:57 AM, Russell wrote: > Dear Pete > > Is Zvishanvane a part of Bulawayo? From Google: "Zvishavane is a mining town in Midlands Province, Zimbabwe. Surrounded by low hills, it lies 97 km west of Masvingo on the main Bulawayo-Masvingo road . . ." > > Also, what district in the Zimbabwean Death Notice section would > correspond > to Masvingo? Fort Victoria, which is the jumping-off place for the Zimbabwe Ruins, and is south of Salisbury (Harare) and south-east of Gwelo (Gweru), while from there you go south to enter South Africa at Beit Bridge (don't know if that has been renamed). In four years in Zimbabwe over 60 years ago, I only ever went to Salisbury once (for a distant view of the Royal Family during the 1947 Royal Visit), and once to Fort Victoria (on an inter-school holiday exchange trip), and the family also drove through Beit Bridge in 1947/8 for a visit to South Africa, and again in 1949 to return to live in South Africa again. My wife also went to Harare and Masvingo to attend the World Council of Churches Assembly in the late 1990s, and had to endure the sight and sound of the unspeakable Mugabe strutting around with his attendant goons and slagging off the Christian Churches. It's not a place I want to visit again. Andrew Rodger rodgera@audioio.com

Dear Russell I am sure you will be bombarded but I lived there for 40 years and Zvishavane was SHABANI and Masvingo was FORT VICTORIA - hope that helps Cheers Jean antique geneaholic New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell" <rpcdoc@shaw.ca> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN > Dear Pete > > Is Zvishanvane a part of Bulawayo? > > Also, what district in the Zimbabwean Death Notice section would > correspond > to Masvingo? > > Thanks > > Russell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Whitfield" <pelejab@gmail.com> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:09 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN > > >> Russell, >> >> just for interest and as a test, I looked at one of the early records in >> the >> "Umtali" series of a Joan Harris and made a note of her date of death and >> also saw that the cause was "died in a vehicle accident on the Inyanga >> road". It was written up by hand. >> I then looked under the overall volumes organized by alphabetical order >> and >> did a search for Joan Harris. A similar record stating the same date of >> death and by car accident on the Inyanga road was recorded on a >> differently >> numbered death notice but in this case it was a type-written report. I >> have >> not checked for any others. >> By the way I am from Umtali (Mutare) originally and left there in 1998 >> and >> now living inGaborone, Botswana >> >> cheers >> >> Pete Whitfield >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Has anyone any information on the M'Crystal line? My maiden name is M'Crystal and the family all came from Pretoria, Johannesburg, etc. I know I still have 2 uncles - Stanley and Colin M'Crystal still living [my father's brothers]- but have no contact. I heard an aunt died a few years ago. I am looking for information on Sheila [Pendrich] M'Crystal and Michael M'Crystal. I think Michael's information was in the Star just recently. How can I get that information? Sheila and Michael are from Bedfordview area. Any help on this line with current information or how I could access the Star to get obituaries would be wonderful. Thanks Shann Albretsen DI Field Group Office 801-336-3030 NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

THIS MESSAGE IS FOR GLYNIS Hello Glynis, You asked if Pete had any info on Yvonne. I am a very old friend of Adrienne Richardson who was married to a brother of Yvonne's husband. I live in the UK and Adrienne lives in Kwa Zulu Natal. Are you a member of the family? What info are you looking for, re the accident? If you give me some details of yourself I could contact "A" and ask if she would like to correspond with you. Or pass on to you info she might be happy to give. Sincerely Lynette Surrey -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of glynis Sent: 05 April 2011 09:49 To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN Hi Pete, I have been following this link rather closely and noticed on your email below that you mentioned a car accident of Joan HARRIS. Did you also perhaps know of the car accident of Gloria Yvonne Richardson who also died in a car accident in 1967, Umtali with her baby daughter? I did get some info on her accident, however if you know of anything else or anyone else on this list, I would love to hear from you. She was my aunt. Regards, Glynis

Glynis I see it lists the "usual place of residence" as Whitewaters Farm, Umtali South. I think my cousin Joy's husband, Phil Schooling bought that farm from her husband Harold Arthur RICHARDSON as I remember various visits to see them on the farm. I did not see a DN listed for the daughter Gillian Anne (listed as deceased and I assume killed in the same car crash from what you said. cheers for now and hope the DN arrived via your off-list address safely Pete Whitfield On 5 April 2011 11:25, Pete Whitfield <pelejab@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Glynis > > it lists the place of death on the Melsetter road. Has her aged 35 and > lists 3 minor children and a fourth deceased. She died 24 May 1967. I am > sending you a copy of the death notice off-list. > > cheers > > Pete > > > On 5 April 2011 10:49, glynis <glynis@kwikmark.co.za> wrote: > >> Hi Pete, >> >> >> >> I have been following this link rather closely and noticed on your email >> below that you mentioned a car accident of Joan HARRIS. >> >> >> >> Did you also perhaps know of the car accident of Gloria Yvonne Richardson >> who also died in a car accident in 1967, Umtali with her baby daughter? >> >> >> >> I did get some info on her accident, however if you know of anything else >> or >> anyone else on this list, I would love to hear from you. She was my aunt. >> >> Regards, >> >> Glynis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

Hi Glynis it lists the place of death on the Melsetter road. Has her aged 35 and lists 3 minor children and a fourth deceased. She died 24 May 1967. I am sending you a copy of the death notice off-list. cheers Pete On 5 April 2011 10:49, glynis <glynis@kwikmark.co.za> wrote: > Hi Pete, > > > > I have been following this link rather closely and noticed on your email > below that you mentioned a car accident of Joan HARRIS. > > > > Did you also perhaps know of the car accident of Gloria Yvonne Richardson > who also died in a car accident in 1967, Umtali with her baby daughter? > > > > I did get some info on her accident, however if you know of anything else > or > anyone else on this list, I would love to hear from you. She was my aunt. > > Regards, > > Glynis > > > > > > > >

Hi Pete, I have been following this link rather closely and noticed on your email below that you mentioned a car accident of Joan HARRIS. Did you also perhaps know of the car accident of Gloria Yvonne Richardson who also died in a car accident in 1967, Umtali with her baby daughter? I did get some info on her accident, however if you know of anything else or anyone else on this list, I would love to hear from you. She was my aunt. Regards, Glynis From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pete Whitfield Sent: 04 April 2011 09:09 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Zimbabwe DN Russell, just for interest and as a test, I looked at one of the early records in the "Umtali" series of a Joan Harris and made a note of her date of death and also saw that the cause was "died in a vehicle accident on the Inyanga road". It was written up by hand. I then looked under the overall volumes organized by alphabetical order and did a search for Joan Harris. A similar record stating the same date of death and by car accident on the Inyanga road was recorded on a differently numbered death notice but in this case it was a type-written report. I have not checked for any others. By the way I am from Umtali (Mutare) originally and left there in 1998 and now living inGaborone, Botswana cheers Pete Whitfield ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3549 - Release Date: 04/04/11