All, The First Fifty Years project website has been updated. see: http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/index.htm Kind regards Delia Robertson

Pardon my ignorance. What is the "FIRST FIFTY YEARS PROJECT? -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Magda Begeman Sent: 25 April 2011 02:19 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] First Fifty Years Thank you for the information. I am atill a total novice but totally hooked on finding my family. Kind Regards Magda Badenhorst ----- Original Message ----- From: "DRobertson" <delia.robertson@gmail.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 10:47 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] First Fifty Years > All, > > The First Fifty Years project website has been updated. see: > http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/index.htm > > Kind regards > Delia Robertson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3594 - Release Date: 04/24/11 > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help me with info on the parents and children of James Guthrie and Louise Greene James b 1843 Barberton, SA Louise Greene b 1847 Barberton SA 1 daughter - Rachel [my great great grandmother] b 20 November 1869 Barberton SA Thanks Shann Albretsen DI Field Group Office 801-336-3030 NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

Hello Leanne Her maiden name was Yates and she was born in Lancashire, England in 1906. Bill > Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 10:13:35 +0200 > From: genealea@gmail.com > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Florrie Morgan > > Hi Bill, > > Do you know what her maiden name was? > > regards, > Leanne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From April 10th - April 24th there is free access to the Gale archive of newspapers. I found a lot of useful articles. Here's the link : http://www.gale.cengage.com/NLW/ Regards Straffen Short

Thanks very much for this Eira. I've found the Wright Family Tree on Ancestry.co.uk very useful today...... I'll follow up the Geni line as well. Best wishes, Tombi Peck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eira Makepeace" <eira@makepeace.net> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:32 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] DEACON and HITGE > If you look at www.geni.com you will find the DEACONs in some detail. You > will also find HITGEs going back to 1760 connected to the same tree. I > found > Geni invaluable for locating all known descendants of my husband's > grandfather George MAKEPEACE but also for checking other names when all > else > fails as with these folk above. > > BW, > > Eira > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3581 - Release Date: 04/18/11 >

If you look at www.geni.com you will find the DEACONs in some detail. You will also find HITGEs going back to 1760 connected to the same tree. I found Geni invaluable for locating all known descendants of my husband's grandfather George MAKEPEACE but also for checking other names when all else fails as with these folk above. BW, Eira

Hi Bill, Do you know what her maiden name was? regards, Leanne

Thanks Keith, that is what I have been wanting to find out, wonderful. Do you know if she had any siblings? Where can I look at SA Genealogies 5? Thanks Moyra -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 18 April 2011 07:44 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Johan LANDSBERG Moyra, c2 d3 Geertruyda Johanna Erika LANDSBERG * 30.7.1847 = Pietermaritzburg 26.8.1847 + 1877 x Greytown 15.12.1868 Edward WAY. She is the daughter of c2 Ernst Wilhelm Erich LANDSBERG * 13.7.1823 x 1843 Elizabeth Catharina UYS. SA Genealogies 5 Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:53:05 PM EDT From: "Moyra Joyce" <moyraj@r63.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Johan LANDSBERG Hi Dorri, I see you are looking for info on a LANDSBERG. I don't have any share but am looking for info on Gertrude Johanna Erica LANDSBERG who married Edward WAY on 1868. Can you help at all? Moyra Joyce Bedford EC -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dorri Roughley Sent: 18 April 2011 12:53 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Johan LANDSBERG Hello Folks, Does anyone know if these two men are the same person? I have a Johan Daniel Otto LANDSBERG b. 7 Nov 1827 in my tree. I have found a marriage for a Johan David Otto LANDSBERG b. @1827 Found in www.familysearch.org the marriage record is for Johan to Christina Petronella PRETORIUS. The ages (in years) are the same. Just wish I could see the image. Best Wishes, Dorri ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3579 - Release Date: 04/17/11 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3581 - Release Date: 04/18/11

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Hi Russell Thanks for the information but do not think this is my Florrie. Her full christian name is Florrie and not short (as I originally thought) for Florence and has no middle name. My thinking was that she might have stayed on in Zimbabwe but there is a good chance she returned to Durban / Natal. Perhaps a stronger bet is that she is buried in Melsetter with her husband George. Many thanks Bill > From: rpcdoc@shaw.ca > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:38:03 -0700 > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Florrie Morgan > > Dear Bill > > Rhodesian Death Notice 482/76 has a Florence Ethel MORGAN d. 25 Jul 1975 in > Christchurch, Dorset, England. There is no other info on the DN. > > The Free BMD site has this info regarding the sane person: > > England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 > > Name: Florence Ethel Morgan > Birth Date: 1887 > Death Registration Month/Year: 1975 > Registration district: Bournemouth > Inferred County: Dorset > Volume: 23 > Page: 0193 > > > Hopefully this is your aunt. I see from her husband's DN that her > maiden name was YATES. > > Regards > > Russell > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Hall" <cannonhill@hotmail.com> > To: "South Africa Rootsweb" <south-africa@rootsweb.com>; "South Africa > Rootsweb" <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:05 PM > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Florrie Morgan > > > > > > Hello Listers > > > > I wonder if anyone can help me track down deceased records for an aunt of > > mine, Florrie Morgan. Born in the UK, she was married to George Morgan in > > New Zealand before emigrating to South Africa around 1930. Living most of > > their lives in Durban, George died at the Chimanimani Hotel in Southern > > Rhodesia in 1961 and was buried there in Melsetter Cemetery. I have not > > been able to trace what became of Florrie or her 3 children. She may well > > have remained in Zimbabwe but there is a good chance she would have > > returned to Durban to be near family. > > > > Any help would be most appreciated. > > Bill > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought you might like date of birth for Hinemoa Dixie DEACON. The date I've been given is the 31st December 1901 in South Africa. Best wishes, Tombi Peck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eira Makepeace" <eira@makepeace.net> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com>; <SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-D-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:15 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] HITGE for Tombi > Isabelle RUBIDGE was a beauty in her youth but developed a 'heks' nose as > she aged causing her to be named 'Wasabelle'. She was the sister of my > great > grandmother and was born near Graaff Reinet. She married three times, once > to DEACON, one to Alex McCREADY and once to HOUGHTON-BROWN. She allegedly > said her gravestone should be marked merely 'Isabelle' as it was too much > trouble to remember all her surnames. > > I have only the one HITGE in my Rubidge register - Catharine Mary Ann > HITGE > but observe there are a few with that name on Ancestry24. > > By George DEACON Isabelle had three children: Maud Quinton Cavenah DEACON > b > Johannesburg 1895., married Exton and Rodrigues; Portlock Gilmour DEACON > born Graaff Reinet 1900 and Hinemoa Dixie DEACON ( no Dob) who lived near > Salisbury. Hinemoa had four children, two by first husband EASTWOOD, one > by > second husband MOORE and one by third husband Patrick GAMBLE who married > Isabelle's half-sister Idonie McCREADY ( she married 6 times and did some > time in jail) after his divorce from Hinemoa. > > None of the three children of Isabelle and George Hitge DEACON have the > name > YOUNGER showing in the list I have so I wonder where that information came > from or am I misreading the email? > > BW, > > Eira > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3576 - Release Date: 04/15/11 >

Thank you very much indeed Eira.....I'm very grateful. Best wishes, Tombi Peck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eira Makepeace" <eira@makepeace.net> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com>; <SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-D-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:15 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] HITGE for Tombi > Isabelle RUBIDGE was a beauty in her youth but developed a 'heks' nose as > she aged causing her to be named 'Wasabelle'. She was the sister of my > great > grandmother and was born near Graaff Reinet. She married three times, once > to DEACON, one to Alex McCREADY and once to HOUGHTON-BROWN. She allegedly > said her gravestone should be marked merely 'Isabelle' as it was too much > trouble to remember all her surnames. > > I have only the one HITGE in my Rubidge register - Catharine Mary Ann > HITGE > but observe there are a few with that name on Ancestry24. > > By George DEACON Isabelle had three children: Maud Quinton Cavenah DEACON > b > Johannesburg 1895., married Exton and Rodrigues; Portlock Gilmour DEACON > born Graaff Reinet 1900 and Hinemoa Dixie DEACON ( no Dob) who lived near > Salisbury. Hinemoa had four children, two by first husband EASTWOOD, one > by > second husband MOORE and one by third husband Patrick GAMBLE who married > Isabelle's half-sister Idonie McCREADY ( she married 6 times and did some > time in jail) after his divorce from Hinemoa. > > None of the three children of Isabelle and George Hitge DEACON have the > name > YOUNGER showing in the list I have so I wonder where that information came > from or am I misreading the email? > > BW, > > Eira > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3576 - Release Date: 04/15/11 >

Thank you so much Keith, I thought the info was rather 'close'. One of the reasons I would like to see the images. Nice thing is that more and more are coming on line. Moyra, I do not have much on the Landsberg families, I know I am descended from a Landsberg, my 2x gt Grandmother, and other Landsbergs marry various Uncles, Aunts, cousins etc., I do not have your Gertrude on my tree. Best Wishes, Dorri ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:37:17 -0400 > From: umfundi@usa.net > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Johan LANDSBERG > > Dorri, > > b3 c5 Johann Daniel Otto LANDSBERG * 7.11.1827 = Lutheran Church (Cape Town)) > 25.11.1827 x Pietermaritzburg 8.1.1848 Christina Petronella PRETORIUS * > 12.8.1830 + Heidelberg, Tvl., 28.11.1895 d.o. comdt. Andries W.J. PRETORIUS xx > 28.10.1896 M.A.D. STRYDOM > > He is the son of > > b3 Friedrich Ludwig Erich LANDSBERG * Germany 4.2.1796 x 13.11.1819 Elizabeth > Catharina DURR. > > (SA Genealogies 5) > > Keith > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:53:05 PM EDT > From: "Moyra Joyce" > To: > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Johan LANDSBERG > > Hi Dorri, I see you are looking for info on a LANDSBERG. I don't have any > share but am looking for info on Gertrude Johanna Erica LANDSBERG who > married Edward WAY on 1868. Can you help at all? > > Moyra Joyce > Bedford > EC > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dorri Roughley > Sent: 18 April 2011 12:53 PM > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Johan LANDSBERG > > > > Hello Folks, > > Does anyone know if these two men are the same person? > > I have a Johan Daniel Otto LANDSBERG b. 7 Nov 1827 in my tree. > > I have found a marriage for a Johan David Otto LANDSBERG b. @1827 > > Found in www.familysearch.org the marriage record is for Johan to Christina > Petronella PRETORIUS. The ages (in years) are the same. Just wish I could > see the image. > > Best Wishes, > > Dorri

Isabelle RUBIDGE was a beauty in her youth but developed a 'heks' nose as she aged causing her to be named 'Wasabelle'. She was the sister of my great grandmother and was born near Graaff Reinet. She married three times, once to DEACON, one to Alex McCREADY and once to HOUGHTON-BROWN. She allegedly said her gravestone should be marked merely 'Isabelle' as it was too much trouble to remember all her surnames. I have only the one HITGE in my Rubidge register - Catharine Mary Ann HITGE but observe there are a few with that name on Ancestry24. By George DEACON Isabelle had three children: Maud Quinton Cavenah DEACON b Johannesburg 1895., married Exton and Rodrigues; Portlock Gilmour DEACON born Graaff Reinet 1900 and Hinemoa Dixie DEACON ( no Dob) who lived near Salisbury. Hinemoa had four children, two by first husband EASTWOOD, one by second husband MOORE and one by third husband Patrick GAMBLE who married Isabelle's half-sister Idonie McCREADY ( she married 6 times and did some time in jail) after his divorce from Hinemoa. None of the three children of Isabelle and George Hitge DEACON have the name YOUNGER showing in the list I have so I wonder where that information came from or am I misreading the email? BW, Eira

Hello Listers I wonder if anyone can help me track down deceased records for an aunt of mine, Florrie Morgan. Born in the UK, she was married to George Morgan in New Zealand before emigrating to South Africa around 1930. Living most of their lives in Durban, George died at the Chimanimani Hotel in Southern Rhodesia in 1961 and was buried there in Melsetter Cemetery. I have not been able to trace what became of Florrie or her 3 children. She may well have remained in Zimbabwe but there is a good chance she would have returned to Durban to be near family. Any help would be most appreciated. Bill

Hi Dorri, I see you are looking for info on a LANDSBERG. I don't have any share but am looking for info on Gertrude Johanna Erica LANDSBERG who married Edward WAY on 1868. Can you help at all? Moyra Joyce Bedford EC -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dorri Roughley Sent: 18 April 2011 12:53 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Johan LANDSBERG Hello Folks, Does anyone know if these two men are the same person? I have a Johan Daniel Otto LANDSBERG b. 7 Nov 1827 in my tree. I have found a marriage for a Johan David Otto LANDSBERG b. @1827 Found in www.familysearch.org the marriage record is for Johan to Christina Petronella PRETORIUS. The ages (in years) are the same. Just wish I could see the image. Best Wishes, Dorri ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3579 - Release Date: 04/17/11

Dear Bill Rhodesian Death Notice 482/76 has a Florence Ethel MORGAN d. 25 Jul 1975 in Christchurch, Dorset, England. There is no other info on the DN. The Free BMD site has this info regarding the sane person: England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 Name: Florence Ethel Morgan Birth Date: 1887 Death Registration Month/Year: 1975 Registration district: Bournemouth Inferred County: Dorset Volume: 23 Page: 0193 Hopefully this is your aunt. I see from her husband's DN that her maiden name was YATES. Regards Russell ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Hall" <cannonhill@hotmail.com> To: "South Africa Rootsweb" <south-africa@rootsweb.com>; "South Africa Rootsweb" <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Florrie Morgan > > Hello Listers > > I wonder if anyone can help me track down deceased records for an aunt of > mine, Florrie Morgan. Born in the UK, she was married to George Morgan in > New Zealand before emigrating to South Africa around 1930. Living most of > their lives in Durban, George died at the Chimanimani Hotel in Southern > Rhodesia in 1961 and was buried there in Melsetter Cemetery. I have not > been able to trace what became of Florrie or her 3 children. She may well > have remained in Zimbabwe but there is a good chance she would have > returned to Durban to be near family. > > Any help would be most appreciated. > Bill > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you very much indeed John. Much appreciated. Best wishes, Tombi Peck ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Deare" <dearej@mweb.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Does anyone have any information which may helpmelink my HITGE connections together. > Hi Tombi, > > Tessa has recently provided Deacon info for a Pietermaritzburg family. > Doesn't look a close relation but I will forward it to you offline. > > John > > _____ > > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tombi Peck > Sent: 18 April 2011 10:22 AM > To: Brittish Immigrants > Cc: SA Rootsweb; south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com; Eastern Cape List; > OFS > LIST > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Does anyone have any information which may help > melink my HITGE connections together. > > > > Hi Everyone, > Sunelia Heath's wonderful transcriptions have started me on a train of > thought and investigation. > Today I was able to add into my file the date and place of the marriage of > Isabelle Ira Gilmour RUBIDGE to her first husband George Hitge DEACON, who > was the eldest son of Samuel Archer DEACON, J.P. and Catherine Mary Ann > HITGE. > > I have to think that there is a connection between Catherine Mary Anne > HITGE > (for whom I have no further information) and Plestina Blatherwick HITGE > born > about February 1854 at Willowmore, Cape of Good Hope died 31st August 1920 > at Willowmore. She was married to one of my THURTELL relatives, Walter > THURTELL to whom she was married on the 2nd July 1878 at the NG Kerk, > Willowmore. > > The reason I feel so strongly that there ha to be a link is that the > children of George Hitge DEACON have second names such as Younger; > Plestina's parents were George Joseph Roye HITGE (I have no dates for him) > and Plestina Blatherwick YOUNGER born 6 August 18?? at Uitenhage, Cape of > Good Hope d 6 Dec 1895 Cradock, Eastern Cape. > > I would be very grateful if anyone can help me complete this link! > > I would welcome any help to add to and neaten up these family connections. > Best wishes, > Tombi Peck > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3580 - Release Date: 04/17/11 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3576 - Release Date: 04/15/11 >