I am So sad for you. But welcome back. Hope we can sustain you for a while Patricia Frykberg -------------------------------------------------- From: "laquita belinfante" <belinfante@telkomsa.net> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:50 AM To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Not been active > Dear Fellow listers > > Forgive me for what seemed like lurking in the past month. > > I have buried my partner/companion and my little sister of 55 years old in > the past month and am now in the process of getting back on track. > > Starting with a mountain of mails in my inbox > > > Regards > Lucky > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1325 / Virus Database: 1500/3621 - Release Date: 05/06/11 >

My pleasure Lucky. Did some of your close relatives also died in the Holocaust? Kind regards - Daniel On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:52 PM, laquita belinfante <belinfante@telkomsa.net>wrote: > Daniel > > Thank you for this link. > Many, many BELINFANTE's died in the Holocaust. > > Lucky > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Jacobs" <danielmalanjacobs@gmail.com> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:05 PM > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Holocaust records go online > > > > Dear Friends > > > > See article about above-mentioned subject at > > http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/Holocaust-records-go-online-20110503 > > > > <http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/Holocaust-records-go-online-20110503 > >Kind > > regards > > > > Daniel Jacobs > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- www.gendata.co.za Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington)

Good evening Keith, In the following book I found: Groep Sonder Grense; HF Heese page 97 BIEBOUW, Detlef (vader van Hendrik Bibault) B.E. Diana (slavin van C. Linnes) K: Susanna gedoop 1687 (trou 1711 Willem Odendaal) Hoge, p.31. Then in the TANAP documents: In KAB MOOC 8/1.47 the name Kornelis P:s Linnes ; Landdros, is mention and his wife. But no document about this Linnes could be found where Diana is mention as a slave. There is many ohter documents containing/mention a Diana as slave. Regards Petrus Fourie On 5/7/11, Keith Meintjes <umfundi@usa.net> wrote: > I notice that I have another slave ancestor, Diana vd Kaap. > > Susanna Biebow is the daughter of Detlef Biebow v. Mecklenburg. de Villiers > / > Pama (p. 660, Odendaal) does not name her mother. In SA Genealogies 1 p. > 275, > her mother is given as Diana vdK. > > I would appreciate any references to information about Diana. (I have found > three articles in Familia on Biebow.) > > Thank you, > > Keith > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Daniel Thank you for this link. Many, many BELINFANTE's died in the Holocaust. Lucky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Jacobs" <danielmalanjacobs@gmail.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:05 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Holocaust records go online > Dear Friends > > See article about above-mentioned subject at > http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/Holocaust-records-go-online-20110503 > > <http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/Holocaust-records-go-online-20110503>Kind > regards > > Daniel Jacobs

Thanks Pat Just as soon as I get sorted I will post the relevant information. My partner was the son of a miss SMUTS and my sister the grand daughter of PRETORIUS and JOUBERT. Lucky

Dear Fellow listers Forgive me for what seemed like lurking in the past month. I have buried my partner/companion and my little sister of 55 years old in the past month and am now in the process of getting back on track. Starting with a mountain of mails in my inbox Regards Lucky

Petrus, Thank you. I am descended from Odendaal and then de Klerk. Best wishes, Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 07 May 2011 03:04:12 PM EDT From: Petrus Fourie <pjfourie6@gmail.com> To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Diana vd Kaap, mother of Susanna Biebow (Bibault) = 1687 Good evening Keith, In the following book I found: Groep Sonder Grense; HF Heese page 97 BIEBOUW, Detlef (vader van Hendrik Bibault) B.E. Diana (slavin van C. Linnes) K: Susanna gedoop 1687 (trou 1711 Willem Odendaal) Hoge, p.31. Then in the TANAP documents: In KAB MOOC 8/1.47 the name Kornelis P:s Linnes ; Landdros, is mention and his wife. But no document about this Linnes could be found where Diana is mention as a slave. There is many ohter documents containing/mention a Diana as slave. Regards Petrus Fourie On 5/7/11, Keith Meintjes <umfundi@usa.net> wrote: > I notice that I have another slave ancestor, Diana vd Kaap. > > Susanna Biebow is the daughter of Detlef Biebow v. Mecklenburg. de Villiers > / > Pama (p. 660, Odendaal) does not name her mother. In SA Genealogies 1 p. > 275, > her mother is given as Diana vdK. > > I would appreciate any references to information about Diana. (I have found > three articles in Familia on Biebow.) > > Thank you, > > Keith > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there a Transvaal equivalent of the Africana Library, Kimberley or the Killie Campbell Library, Durban? I'd like to find out more about someone who was involved in gold and diamond mining/dealing in the 1880s to late1890s. I have checked NAAIRS, but feel there must still be a lot more info available, if only I knew where to ask! Thanks Eileen

I notice that I have another slave ancestor, Diana vd Kaap. Susanna Biebow is the daughter of Detlef Biebow v. Mecklenburg. de Villiers / Pama (p. 660, Odendaal) does not name her mother. In SA Genealogies 1 p. 275, her mother is given as Diana vdK. I would appreciate any references to information about Diana. (I have found three articles in Familia on Biebow.) Thank you, Keith

Dear Friends See article about above-mentioned subject at http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/Holocaust-records-go-online-20110503 <http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/Holocaust-records-go-online-20110503>Kind regards Daniel Jacobs www.gendata.co.za Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington)

A copy of The South Africa 1853 Medal is for sale here (in the UK) http://www.stellabooks.com/catalogues/South-Africa~294.htm for a very reasonable price. A number of the British soldiers stayed in ZA and have descendants there. Also, there are lists of the members of the Cape Mounted Rifles. The CMR had British officers, but the troops were locally recruited. Best wishes, Keith

Hehe Colin, right I'll just get cracking then, shall I? Thanks for the encouragement and kind words. Delia On 2011/04/25 06:21 PM, Colin Möhr wrote: > Dear Delia, > Trust you will manage to progress through the next 250 years or so. Great > show! > Colin Mohr

Thanks Cate. Delia On 2011/04/25 07:45 PM, BAZDER wrote: > Delia > What a FANTASTIC achievment!!!! > Thank you > Cate

Hi Delia, DR> The First Fifty Years project website has been updated. see: http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/index.htm I am rather late getting onto the bus, from my side I also wish to congratulate you on a very important piece of work you have done and also for making it available to all. Good show, Daan Hamman

Hi Delia Thank You for all your hard work and giving it to us. Very much appreciated Heleen

Delia What a FANTASTIC achievment!!!! Thank you Cate On 25 April 2011 17:21, Colin Möhr <mohr@lantic.net> wrote: > Dear Delia, > Trust you will manage to progress through the next 250 years or so. Great > show! > Colin Mohr > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron" <ronsmit@intekom.co.za> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 5:37 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] First Fifty Years > > > > Well done, Delia!! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DRobertson > > Sent: 25 April 2011 10:48 AM > > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] First Fifty Years > > > > All, > > > > The First Fifty Years project website has been updated. see: > > http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/index.htm > > > > Kind regards > > Delia Robertson > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Delia, Trust you will manage to progress through the next 250 years or so. Great show! Colin Mohr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron" <ronsmit@intekom.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] First Fifty Years > Well done, Delia!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DRobertson > Sent: 25 April 2011 10:48 AM > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] First Fifty Years > > All, > > The First Fifty Years project website has been updated. see: > http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/index.htm > > Kind regards > Delia Robertson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well done, Delia!! -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DRobertson Sent: 25 April 2011 10:48 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] First Fifty Years All, The First Fifty Years project website has been updated. see: http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/index.htm Kind regards Delia Robertson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Click on the link and all will be revealed! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michele Shaw" <sunshine.shaw@telkomsa.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] First Fifty Years > Pardon my ignorance. What is the "FIRST FIFTY YEARS PROJECT? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Magda Begeman > Sent: 25 April 2011 02:19 AM > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] First Fifty Years > > Thank you for the information. I am atill a total novice but totally > hooked > on finding my family. > > Kind Regards > Magda Badenhorst > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DRobertson" <delia.robertson@gmail.com> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 10:47 AM > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] First Fifty Years > > >> All, >> >> The First Fifty Years project website has been updated. see: >> http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/index.htm >> >> Kind regards >> Delia Robertson >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3594 - Release Date: 04/24/11 >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for the information. I am atill a total novice but totally hooked on finding my family. Kind Regards Magda Badenhorst ----- Original Message ----- From: "DRobertson" <delia.robertson@gmail.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 10:47 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] First Fifty Years > All, > > The First Fifty Years project website has been updated. see: > http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/index.htm > > Kind regards > Delia Robertson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3594 - Release Date: 04/24/11 >