Hi All, I have been asked to help a friend of mine to research the ASHBURNER family and have discovered that his grandfather Harry John ASHBURNER was married to a Rosina HARRISON who I think could be the person listed below as having an estate file in the Cape Archives: DEPOT KAB SOURCE MOOC TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 6/9/22771 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 3758/54 PART 1 DESCRIPTION ALPER, ROSINA ELLEN. NEE HARRISON. ESTATE PAPERS. STARTING 19540000 ENDING 19540000 I cannot find an estate file for Harry John ASHBURNER and perhaps this estate file, although it doesn't mention the name ASHBURNER, may provide more clues. Any assistance greatly appreciated. -- Regards, Con Mercer

Hi, I would imagine it must be the local administrations who keep them up, because the Commonwealth War Graves Commission only commemorate the dead of the two world wars. >From the CWGC site: "The Commission only commemorates those who have died during the designated war years in service or of causes attributable to service. The war years are considered to be World War I 4 August 1914 to 31 August 1921 World War II 3 September 1939 to 31 December 1947" So whoever is doing it, all thanks to them. Phil Curtis On 5 June 2011 11:03, Eileen & Marty Russell <martruss@mailweb.co.za> wrote: > I am sure I read somewhere that the War Graves Commission put a lot of > effort into tracking down graves on outlying farms etc and re-interring the > remains in centralised locations where the memorials could be tended in > perpetuity instead of being at the mercy of changing landowners. > > Perhaps the politics of the time had something to do with it, not only > changing from USA to RSA but many of the colonies were seeking to throw off > British administration. The war graves I have visited elsewhere in Africa > have all been in the local cemetery, not out in the bush where the soldier > died and was probably first buried. Economics probably also comes into > it, it would surely be much cheaper to pay the local council than to try to > maintain graves scattered over a wide area. > > Whatever the reasons for bringing the graves together it must be said that > they are remarkably well maintained, and the cemeteries where you find them > are also above the local average - presumably the War Graves Commission > makes regular checks and this helps to keep up standards! > > Eileen > >

I am sure I read somewhere that the War Graves Commission put a lot of effort into tracking down graves on outlying farms etc and re-interring the remains in centralised locations where the memorials could be tended in perpetuity instead of being at the mercy of changing landowners. Perhaps the politics of the time had something to do with it, not only changing from USA to RSA but many of the colonies were seeking to throw off British administration. The war graves I have visited elsewhere in Africa have all been in the local cemetery, not out in the bush where the soldier died and was probably first buried. Economics probably also comes into it, it would surely be much cheaper to pay the local council than to try to maintain graves scattered over a wide area. Whatever the reasons for bringing the graves together it must be said that they are remarkably well maintained, and the cemeteries where you find them are also above the local average - presumably the War Graves Commission makes regular checks and this helps to keep up standards! Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Rodger To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] British soldiers who died between 1899 – 1902 in the Wakkerstroom/Piet Retief districts On 4 Jun 2011, at 5:09 PM, Keith Meintjes wrote: > Trysie, > > Thank you for that! > > It is interesting that at the height of anti-British sentiment (ZA > was about > to vote to leave the Commonwealth) such a monument was erected. > > Keith > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 01:05:17 PM EDT > From: Trysie Joubert <wilmavzyl@gmail.com> > To: Eastern Cape List <SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com>Cc: > Buitenpsten > <buitenposten@rootsweb.com>, Brittish Immigrants > <south-africa-immigrants-british-l@rootsweb.com>, > south-africa@rootsweb.com, south-africa-orange-free-state > <south-africa-orange-free-state@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] British soldiers who died between 1899 – > 1902 in the > Wakkerstroom/Piet Retief districts > > Contact me if you would like a photo of this Monument > > Trysie > > > WAKKERSTROOM CEMETERY > > 1899 - 1902 > > IN PROUD REMEMBERANCE OF SOLDIERS ORIGINALLY BURIED AT STURMAN RANCES, > UITGEVALEN, CASTROL NEK, PIET RETIEF RUSTPLAAS WHO NOW LIE BURIED > HERE WITH > THOSE ORIGINALY INERRED AT WAKKERSTROOM Indeed. I wonder whether the transcription is exactly accurate: there are three errors in the above paragraph (one in the first line and the others two successive words in the third line). Mind you, if the transcription is correct, it wouldn't surprise me -- I've seen worse in Woltemade, including one on my mother-in-law's stone, which my brother-in-law didn't pick up and have corrected, along with an incorrect date (or perhaps his writing was insufficiently legible and he couldn't insist). This was done by a monumental mason right opposite the cemetery who must get a lot of business ("position, position, position!") and who should have known better, but these days printers, once the best proof-readers, don't know better either. Andrew Rodger rodgera@audioio.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi A possible father to Hermanus Van Hees found on family tree on Ancestry.co.uk Name Hermanus Van Hees Birth Abt 1779 Death 15 Jul 1835 - Nederland Parents Carel Van Hees, Cornelia Maria Spouse Neeltje Lorentz Date of Marriage 27 Mar 1810 - Netherlands Regards Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don McArthur" <donmac@netactive.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 3:39 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Hermanus van HEES > The information on this chap is H&L is pretty sparse. Arrived 1830 [from > Amsterdam - port or home?] > > Married in George 1836 to Elizabeth Catharina Johanna LOURENS. > > Does anyone have more definite info on his origin? > > Onomastically he COULD be son of this lot. Very interesting family. > > Cheers, > > Don McArthur. > > Descendants of Petrus van Hees > > 1 Petrus VAN HEES b: 14 Mar 1777 in Utrecht See notes > d: 28 Nov 1861 in Utrecht > .. +Maria Getruida YOUNG b: 15 Nov 1779 in Paramaribo, Surinam > m: 26 Aug 1798 in Utrecht d: 28 Jan 1833 Father: George YOUNG > Mother: Georgina Elizabeth Geertruijda KURK > > ... 2 Cornelia Petronella Maria VAN HEES b: Abt. 1799 in > Utrecht > ....... +Hendrik BOSSCHA b: Abt. 1792 in Harderwijk m: > 24 Nov 1825 in Utrecht Father: Herman BOSCHA Mother: Helena > SCHEERS > ... 2 Anna Elisabeth Geertruida VAN HEES b: 4 Oct 1800 in > Utrecht d: 17 May 1892 in Vreeland, Utrecht > ....... +Daniel David BUCHLER b: 23 Feb 1782 in Amsterdam > m: 4 Oct 1820 in Utrecht d: 22 Dec 1871 in Amsterdam > Father: Daniel Arnoldus BUCHLER Mother: Johanna Hillegonda D'ARNAUD > > ... 2 Henriette Geertruid VAN HEES b: Abt. 1802 in Utrecht > > ....... +Jan Jacob HOLZMAN b: Abt. 1801 in Amsterdam > m: 12 Jun 1828 in Utrecht Father: Adriaan HOLZMAN Mother: > Jeannette Marie H BAGMAN > > ... 2 Carel VAN HEES b: 1803 d: 1867 > > ........ 3 Maria Geertruida VAN HEES b: 1833 d: 1882 > ............ +Salomon Frederik DUURVOORT b: 1834 > m: in Paramaribo, Surinam d: 1916 > > ... 2 Alida Hermina VAN HEES b: Abt. 1812 in Utrecht > ....... +Steven VAN NELLESTEIJN b: Abt. 1818 in Darthuizen > m: 1 Nov 1844 in Utrecht Father: Cornelis Jan VAN NELLESTEIJN Mother: > Sophia VAN SCHUILENBURG > > ... 2 Cornelius Marius VAN HEES b: 9 Dec 1820 in Utrecht > > ....... +Anna Wilhelmina VAN DER VIJVER b: Abt. 1823 in Rotterdam > m: 10 Apr 1858 in Utrecht Father: Matthijs Karel VAN DER VIJVER > Mother: Johanna BURGER > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all Picked up a copy ( as i do!! ) of The Union Trades Directory for 1953/54 the other day. It lists businesses in operation at that time. It is a huge tome and covers towns and villages in the Union of South Africa and South west Africa as well as Northern and Southern Rhodesia, Central and east African Territories!! 480pages! If anyone would like lookups please holler. Please give me the name and relevant town or village to check in as to search through the whole book would be a marathon!! The book gives the population of the various towns as well for anyone who is interested. Kind regards Nikki No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.901 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3679 - Release Date: 06/03/11 20:34:00

Hi Nikki, Any WHEATLEYs in the Cape Town area? Thanks, John Wynne Cheshire, UK ----- Original Message ---- > From: Nikki <alnic@polka.co.za> > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com; >northern-cape-south-africa@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, 4 June, 2011 14:51:37 > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Union Trade Directories 1953/54 -lookups offered > > Hi all > Picked up a copy ( as i do!!  ) of The Union Trades Directory for 1953/54 > the other day. It lists businesses in operation  at that time. It is a huge > tome and covers towns and villages in the Union of South Africa and South > west Africa as well as Northern and Southern Rhodesia, Central and east > African Territories!!  480pages! > If anyone would like lookups please holler. > > Please give me the name and relevant town or village to check in as to > search through the whole book would be a marathon!! > > The book gives the population of the various towns as well for anyone who is > interested. > > Kind regards > Nikki > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.901 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3679 - Release Date: 06/03/11 >20:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message >

The information on this chap is H&L is pretty sparse. Arrived 1830 [from Amsterdam - port or home?] Married in George 1836 to Elizabeth Catharina Johanna LOURENS. Does anyone have more definite info on his origin? Onomastically he COULD be son of this lot. Very interesting family. Cheers, Don McArthur. Descendants of Petrus van Hees 1 Petrus VAN HEES b: 14 Mar 1777 in Utrecht See notes d: 28 Nov 1861 in Utrecht .. +Maria Getruida YOUNG b: 15 Nov 1779 in Paramaribo, Surinam m: 26 Aug 1798 in Utrecht d: 28 Jan 1833 Father: George YOUNG Mother: Georgina Elizabeth Geertruijda KURK ... 2 Cornelia Petronella Maria VAN HEES b: Abt. 1799 in Utrecht ....... +Hendrik BOSSCHA b: Abt. 1792 in Harderwijk m: 24 Nov 1825 in Utrecht Father: Herman BOSCHA Mother: Helena SCHEERS ... 2 Anna Elisabeth Geertruida VAN HEES b: 4 Oct 1800 in Utrecht d: 17 May 1892 in Vreeland, Utrecht ....... +Daniel David BUCHLER b: 23 Feb 1782 in Amsterdam m: 4 Oct 1820 in Utrecht d: 22 Dec 1871 in Amsterdam Father: Daniel Arnoldus BUCHLER Mother: Johanna Hillegonda D'ARNAUD ... 2 Henriette Geertruid VAN HEES b: Abt. 1802 in Utrecht ....... +Jan Jacob HOLZMAN b: Abt. 1801 in Amsterdam m: 12 Jun 1828 in Utrecht Father: Adriaan HOLZMAN Mother: Jeannette Marie H BAGMAN ... 2 Carel VAN HEES b: 1803 d: 1867 ........ 3 Maria Geertruida VAN HEES b: 1833 d: 1882 ............ +Salomon Frederik DUURVOORT b: 1834 m: in Paramaribo, Surinam d: 1916 ... 2 Alida Hermina VAN HEES b: Abt. 1812 in Utrecht ....... +Steven VAN NELLESTEIJN b: Abt. 1818 in Darthuizen m: 1 Nov 1844 in Utrecht Father: Cornelis Jan VAN NELLESTEIJN Mother: Sophia VAN SCHUILENBURG ... 2 Cornelius Marius VAN HEES b: 9 Dec 1820 in Utrecht ....... +Anna Wilhelmina VAN DER VIJVER b: Abt. 1823 in Rotterdam m: 10 Apr 1858 in Utrecht Father: Matthijs Karel VAN DER VIJVER Mother: Johanna BURGER

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I came across the following listing: Philip, P (Peter?) and Ploeger, J: "Supplementa ad Familia", Parts 1, 2, 3, staple bound paperback, 1979, 1985, 1986. Does anyone know what these are? Did GSSA have printed supplements to Familia? Keith

SA Genealogies 3 p. 246 says he was from Arnhem. That would be his birthplace. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 09:40:54 AM EDT From: "Don McArthur" <donmac@netactive.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Hermanus van HEES The information on this chap is H&L is pretty sparse. Arrived 1830 [from Amsterdam - port or home?] Married in George 1836 to Elizabeth Catharina Johanna LOURENS. Does anyone have more definite info on his origin? Onomastically he COULD be son of this lot. Very interesting family. Cheers, Don McArthur. Descendants of Petrus van Hees 1 Petrus VAN HEES b: 14 Mar 1777 in Utrecht See notes d: 28 Nov 1861 in Utrecht .. +Maria Getruida YOUNG b: 15 Nov 1779 in Paramaribo, Surinam m: 26 Aug 1798 in Utrecht d: 28 Jan 1833 Father: George YOUNG Mother: Georgina Elizabeth Geertruijda KURK ... 2 Cornelia Petronella Maria VAN HEES b: Abt. 1799 in Utrecht ....... +Hendrik BOSSCHA b: Abt. 1792 in Harderwijk m: 24 Nov 1825 in Utrecht Father: Herman BOSCHA Mother: Helena SCHEERS ... 2 Anna Elisabeth Geertruida VAN HEES b: 4 Oct 1800 in Utrecht d: 17 May 1892 in Vreeland, Utrecht ....... +Daniel David BUCHLER b: 23 Feb 1782 in Amsterdam m: 4 Oct 1820 in Utrecht d: 22 Dec 1871 in Amsterdam Father: Daniel Arnoldus BUCHLER Mother: Johanna Hillegonda D'ARNAUD ... 2 Henriette Geertruid VAN HEES b: Abt. 1802 in Utrecht ....... +Jan Jacob HOLZMAN b: Abt. 1801 in Amsterdam m: 12 Jun 1828 in Utrecht Father: Adriaan HOLZMAN Mother: Jeannette Marie H BAGMAN ... 2 Carel VAN HEES b: 1803 d: 1867 ........ 3 Maria Geertruida VAN HEES b: 1833 d: 1882 ............ +Salomon Frederik DUURVOORT b: 1834 m: in Paramaribo, Surinam d: 1916 ... 2 Alida Hermina VAN HEES b: Abt. 1812 in Utrecht ....... +Steven VAN NELLESTEIJN b: Abt. 1818 in Darthuizen m: 1 Nov 1844 in Utrecht Father: Cornelis Jan VAN NELLESTEIJN Mother: Sophia VAN SCHUILENBURG ... 2 Cornelius Marius VAN HEES b: 9 Dec 1820 in Utrecht ....... +Anna Wilhelmina VAN DER VIJVER b: Abt. 1823 in Rotterdam m: 10 Apr 1858 in Utrecht Father: Matthijs Karel VAN DER VIJVER Mother: Johanna BURGER ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Trysie, Thank you for that! It is interesting that at the height of anti-British sentiment (ZA was about to vote to leave the Commonwealth) such a monument was erected. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 01:05:17 PM EDT From: Trysie Joubert <wilmavzyl@gmail.com> To: Eastern Cape List <SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com>Cc: Buitenpsten <buitenposten@rootsweb.com>, Brittish Immigrants <south-africa-immigrants-british-l@rootsweb.com>, south-africa@rootsweb.com, south-africa-orange-free-state <south-africa-orange-free-state@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] British soldiers who died between 1899 – 1902 in the Wakkerstroom/Piet Retief districts Contact me if you would like a photo of this Monument Trysie WAKKERSTROOM CEMETERY 1899 - 1902 IN PROUD REMEMBERANCE OF SOLDIERS ORIGINALLY BURIED AT STURMAN RANCES, UITGEVALEN, CASTROL NEK, PIET RETIEF RUSTPLAAS WHO NOW LIE BURIED HERE WITH THOSE ORIGINALY INERRED AT WAKKERSTROOM ERECTED BY SA WAR GRAVES BOARD 1962 *ARMY POST OFFICE CORPS* PTE SQUIRREL OR 7.7.02 *ARMY SERVICE CORPS* COND TAYLOR C 11.4.01 *BORDER RECT* PTE FOUNTAINE S 1.3.01 *CAMERON HIGHLANDERS* PTE LYNDALL T 13.3.01 PTE MacLEOD A 22.3.01 *CANADIAN SCOUTS* MAJ HOWARD AL 17.2.01 SCT DOUGLAS FCA 17.2.01 SCT NORTHWAY RS 17.2.01 *DEVONSHIRE REGT* PTE HOLDING J 4.3.01 *DORSETSHIRE REGT* PTE BURDETT H 7.9.00 PTE HUGHES M 18.4.01 PTE JONES T 17.1.01 PTE LAWRENCE SJ 5.10.00 PTE NICKOLLS T 7.2.01 PTE PRATT H 18.1.01 PTE WOODS HW 20.3.01 *6 DRAGOON CDS (INNISKILLINGS) * PTE NICHOLLS F 21.5.02 *DUBLIN FUSILIERS * PTE McCORMACK J 8.6.01 *IMPERIAL LIGHT HORSE * TPR WILLCOCKS W 31.3.01 TPR HANKS G 22.2.01 TPR HARDING HJ 6.4.01 TPR LEE JW 15.3.01 *IMPERIAL YEOMANRY * TPR CHARLTON E 8.8.02 *INTELLIGENCE CORPS * GUIDE MULLER PFM 1.5.02 *LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS * PTE HOPKINS R 10.4.01 PTE SINGLETON C 16.3.01 *PTE MOUNTED INFANTRY * L/CPL BRYANT J 1.2.02 PTE MARCHANT W 1.3.01 PTE PLUMMER G 10.1.01 PTE STARLING T 6.2.02 *NEW ZEALAND MOUNTED RIFLES * LT RYAN F 16.6.01 SGT MOORE W 30.1.02 PTE COTTER JT 13.6.01 PTE McKAY AH 14.2.02 *NORTH STAFFORDSHIRE REGT * PTE FINNEY J 3.6.01 PTE CLOVER H 4.4.02 PTE HODSON C 3.6.01 PTE KEENAN J 25.12.01 *QUEENSLAMD IMPERIAL BUSHMEN * SGT SHANNON J 9.1.01 PTE McILVEEN J 9.12.01 PTE MILLS GH 21.10.01 PTE ROBERTS A 16.12.01 *RIFLE BRIGADE * L/CPL POCOCK J 27.1.01 PTE TINDALL B 16.2.02 *ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY * GNR HIGGEIN C 23.2.01 GNR JOHNSON H 23.11.00 *ROYAL HORSE ARTILLERY * DVR CROOKS E 19.2.01 *ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS * PTE FENTON VP 8.1.02 PTE CLANVILLE W 27.12.01 *ROYAL SCOTS GREYS * CPL FAGG S 14.3.01 PTE McADAM J 14.4.01 PTE WORTLEY G 14.3.01 *ROYAL WEST SURREY REGT (QUEENS) * CPL ISLES H 17.12.01 CPL WELSFORD J 27.2.01 L/CPL LESTER W 16.12.01 PTE COOK G 17.12.01 PTE TIMSON J 27.2.01 *SCOTS GUARDS * SGT STODHARDT 18.2.02 *SOUTH AFRICAN CONSTABULARY* CAPT GRAY A 20.12.01 *VICTORIAN MOUNTED RIFLES * SGT McCORKILL 11.1.02 SGT WALSH J 8.2.02 SH/S RANKEN J 28.11.01 L/CPL ROSS TS 4.3.02 L/CPL HEALY H 10.2.02 *WEST YORKSHIRE REGT * PTE HARRISON AH 2.2.02 PTE HUTCHINSON D 13.1.01 PTE McGUIRE W 14.2.02 PTE WHITE R 12.4.01 *YORK AND LANCASTER REGT* BDS BIGGS MJ 9.10.00 NINE UNKNOWN BRITISH SOLDIERS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Contact me if you would like a photo of this Monument Trysie WAKKERSTROOM CEMETERY 1899 - 1902 IN PROUD REMEMBERANCE OF SOLDIERS ORIGINALLY BURIED AT STURMAN RANCES, UITGEVALEN, CASTROL NEK, PIET RETIEF RUSTPLAAS WHO NOW LIE BURIED HERE WITH THOSE ORIGINALY INERRED AT WAKKERSTROOM ERECTED BY SA WAR GRAVES BOARD 1962 *ARMY POST OFFICE CORPS* PTE SQUIRREL OR 7.7.02 *ARMY SERVICE CORPS* COND TAYLOR C 11.4.01 *BORDER RECT* PTE FOUNTAINE S 1.3.01 *CAMERON HIGHLANDERS* PTE LYNDALL T 13.3.01 PTE MacLEOD A 22.3.01 *CANADIAN SCOUTS* MAJ HOWARD AL 17.2.01 SCT DOUGLAS FCA 17.2.01 SCT NORTHWAY RS 17.2.01 *DEVONSHIRE REGT* PTE HOLDING J 4.3.01 *DORSETSHIRE REGT* PTE BURDETT H 7.9.00 PTE HUGHES M 18.4.01 PTE JONES T 17.1.01 PTE LAWRENCE SJ 5.10.00 PTE NICKOLLS T 7.2.01 PTE PRATT H 18.1.01 PTE WOODS HW 20.3.01 *6 DRAGOON CDS (INNISKILLINGS) * PTE NICHOLLS F 21.5.02 *DUBLIN FUSILIERS * PTE McCORMACK J 8.6.01 *IMPERIAL LIGHT HORSE * TPR WILLCOCKS W 31.3.01 TPR HANKS G 22.2.01 TPR HARDING HJ 6.4.01 TPR LEE JW 15.3.01 *IMPERIAL YEOMANRY * TPR CHARLTON E 8.8.02 *INTELLIGENCE CORPS * GUIDE MULLER PFM 1.5.02 *LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS * PTE HOPKINS R 10.4.01 PTE SINGLETON C 16.3.01 *PTE MOUNTED INFANTRY * L/CPL BRYANT J 1.2.02 PTE MARCHANT W 1.3.01 PTE PLUMMER G 10.1.01 PTE STARLING T 6.2.02 *NEW ZEALAND MOUNTED RIFLES * LT RYAN F 16.6.01 SGT MOORE W 30.1.02 PTE COTTER JT 13.6.01 PTE McKAY AH 14.2.02 *NORTH STAFFORDSHIRE REGT * PTE FINNEY J 3.6.01 PTE CLOVER H 4.4.02 PTE HODSON C 3.6.01 PTE KEENAN J 25.12.01 *QUEENSLAMD IMPERIAL BUSHMEN * SGT SHANNON J 9.1.01 PTE McILVEEN J 9.12.01 PTE MILLS GH 21.10.01 PTE ROBERTS A 16.12.01 *RIFLE BRIGADE * L/CPL POCOCK J 27.1.01 PTE TINDALL B 16.2.02 *ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY * GNR HIGGEIN C 23.2.01 GNR JOHNSON H 23.11.00 *ROYAL HORSE ARTILLERY * DVR CROOKS E 19.2.01 *ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS * PTE FENTON VP 8.1.02 PTE CLANVILLE W 27.12.01 *ROYAL SCOTS GREYS * CPL FAGG S 14.3.01 PTE McADAM J 14.4.01 PTE WORTLEY G 14.3.01 *ROYAL WEST SURREY REGT (QUEENS) * CPL ISLES H 17.12.01 CPL WELSFORD J 27.2.01 L/CPL LESTER W 16.12.01 PTE COOK G 17.12.01 PTE TIMSON J 27.2.01 *SCOTS GUARDS * SGT STODHARDT 18.2.02 *SOUTH AFRICAN CONSTABULARY* CAPT GRAY A 20.12.01 *VICTORIAN MOUNTED RIFLES * SGT McCORKILL 11.1.02 SGT WALSH J 8.2.02 SH/S RANKEN J 28.11.01 L/CPL ROSS TS 4.3.02 L/CPL HEALY H 10.2.02 *WEST YORKSHIRE REGT * PTE HARRISON AH 2.2.02 PTE HUTCHINSON D 13.1.01 PTE McGUIRE W 14.2.02 PTE WHITE R 12.4.01 *YORK AND LANCASTER REGT* BDS BIGGS MJ 9.10.00 NINE UNKNOWN BRITISH SOLDIERS

Hi Keith Thanks for the kind offer. A .ged will be fine. Have a good day Carol -----Original Message----- From: Keith Meintjes Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:14 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] re DEACON Families I have the whole nine yards on 1. Thomas DEACON in the POWRIE genealogy. Will a gedcom or paf do? Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 31 May 2011 02:27:54 PM EDT From: "Carol Beneke" <carme@iafrica.com> To: <buitenposten-request@rootsweb.com>, "ROOTSWEB - CAPE TOWN" <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com>, "ROOTSWEB - E.C." <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] re DEACON Families Hi List Is there perhaps anyone that can help with the following DEACON families 1. Thomas DEACON *c1859 married Anna Cecilia BRITZ had a son Albert Thomas DEACON * 1896 +1979 Cradock married Susannah VILJOEN *1902 +1996 Cradock Children of Albert and Susannah - Leon Thomas married Susan WILLETT - Allison married Samuel NEL - John married Joy RAUTENBACH - Noel Donald – this line I have completed. 2. Charles Joseph DEACON full age married to Nellie Susanna PILCHER 18 yrs. Married at St Katherine’s, Uitenhage 12 Feb 1894. Any help greatly appreciated. Carol BENEKE nee STEWART ________________________ Researching STEWART, STONE, BENEKE (all variants) and related families ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3671 - Release Date: 05/31/11 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3671 - Release Date: 05/31/11

I have the whole nine yards on 1. Thomas DEACON in the POWRIE genealogy. Will a gedcom or paf do? Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 31 May 2011 02:27:54 PM EDT From: "Carol Beneke" <carme@iafrica.com> To: <buitenposten-request@rootsweb.com>, "ROOTSWEB - CAPE TOWN" <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com>, "ROOTSWEB - E.C." <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] re DEACON Families Hi List Is there perhaps anyone that can help with the following DEACON families 1. Thomas DEACON *c1859 married Anna Cecilia BRITZ had a son Albert Thomas DEACON * 1896 +1979 Cradock married Susannah VILJOEN *1902 +1996 Cradock Children of Albert and Susannah - Leon Thomas married Susan WILLETT - Allison married Samuel NEL - John married Joy RAUTENBACH - Noel Donald – this line I have completed. 2. Charles Joseph DEACON full age married to Nellie Susanna PILCHER 18 yrs. Married at St Katherine’s, Uitenhage 12 Feb 1894. Any help greatly appreciated. Carol BENEKE nee STEWART ________________________ Researching STEWART, STONE, BENEKE (all variants) and related families ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carol Your email of 31 May 2011 enquires: > I was just wondering if any of you have come across a Mary Anne (Molly) Hunter * c1834 > in George +1889 at Uniondale South Africa. She got married in 1856 at George and +had 4 sons. > Unfortunately no other info on this lady. If you haven't already investigated these, Cape Town Archives has the following Deceased Estate (MOOC) records: 1. A Liquidation & Distribution Account for a Mary Ann MICHEL (born HUNTER) - 1882 2. For Mary HUNTER, wife of Frederik Thomas STONE a. Will - 1886 b. Inventory - 1890 The last mentioned may fit your dates. Regards Dave Long

Hi can anyone tell me about a place called Klippan?????? Regards Alison

Hi List Is there perhaps anyone that can help with the following DEACON families 1. Thomas DEACON *c1859 married Anna Cecilia BRITZ had a son Albert Thomas DEACON * 1896 +1979 Cradock married Susannah VILJOEN *1902 +1996 Cradock Children of Albert and Susannah - Leon Thomas married Susan WILLETT - Allison married Samuel NEL - John married Joy RAUTENBACH - Noel Donald – this line I have completed. 2. Charles Joseph DEACON full age married to Nellie Susanna PILCHER 18 yrs. Married at St Katherine’s, Uitenhage 12 Feb 1894. Any help greatly appreciated. Carol BENEKE nee STEWART ________________________ Researching STEWART, STONE, BENEKE (all variants) and related families

There,s a Klippan in the North West,Free State, Limpopo and Mpumalanga provinces in RSA if you do a search with Google maps,Do you have any idea in which province you are interested in? Klippan can even be a name of a farm some where Regards Bruce -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scott and Alison Sent: 31 May 2011 14:12 To: SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Klippan Hi can anyone tell me about a place called Klippan?????? Regards Alison ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning all I was just wondering if any of you have come across a Mary Anne (Molly) Hunter * c1834 in George +1889 at Uniondale South Africa. She got married in 1856 at George and had 4 sons. Unfortunately no other info on this lady. Any help greatly appreciated Carol BENEKE nee STEWART ________________________ Researching STEWART, STONE, BENEKE (all variants) and related families -----Original Message----- From: Dave Long Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 11:54 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Scottish Hunter or Jamieson Hunter in South Hi Heather My HUNTER ancestors came to South Africa from Northern Ireland around 1860 but it may still turn out that centuries earlier their forbears were from Scotland. Around 1600 the English started "planting" a lot of Scottish (mainly Protestant farmers) in the Northern part of what was Ireland at the time. This was to keep a foothold on the island but also to redevelop that part of the country (which had been ravaged by centuries of battles starting with the Vikings). I have encountered many Scottish sounding names in Northern Ireland. People from there were referred to as the Irish-Scots or Ulster-Scots. Various events (e.g. The Great Famine in Ireland, 1845-1849) led to tens of thousands emigrating to the US and other English Speaking countries. South Africa only received a trickle compared to the US, OZ and surprisingly a high percentage went to England. Around 1922, Ireland split into two countries, namely, Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. I have not come across a SARAH ELIZABETH JAMIESON HUNTER. I did try the NAAIRS Database which gave a few Elizabeth Hunters and Sarah Hunters. Also tried searching for any records containing Jameson Hunter to no avail. Any info about places and timelines may help. Regards Dave Long Researching: LONG, MURPHY, GRANT, BRAITHWAITE, HUNTER ---------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 03:49:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Heather Hall <yello99rose@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Scottish Hunter or Jamieson Hunter in South Africa Hi Dave, I see that you're researching the name HUNTER in SA, presumably from Scottish roots... I have a Scottish/South African ancestor called SARAH ELIZABETH JAMIESON HUNTER, & would be very interested to hear from you (or anyone else) if these names sound familiar. Many thanks, Heather ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3669 - Release Date: 05/30/11 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3669 - Release Date: 05/30/11

Hi Heather My HUNTER ancestors came to South Africa from Northern Ireland around 1860 but it may still turn out that centuries earlier their forbears were from Scotland. Around 1600 the English started "planting" a lot of Scottish (mainly Protestant farmers) in the Northern part of what was Ireland at the time. This was to keep a foothold on the island but also to redevelop that part of the country (which had been ravaged by centuries of battles starting with the Vikings). I have encountered many Scottish sounding names in Northern Ireland. People from there were referred to as the Irish-Scots or Ulster-Scots. Various events (e.g. The Great Famine in Ireland, 1845-1849) led to tens of thousands emigrating to the US and other English Speaking countries. South Africa only received a trickle compared to the US, OZ and surprisingly a high percentage went to England. Around 1922, Ireland split into two countries, namely, Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. I have not come across a SARAH ELIZABETH JAMIESON HUNTER. I did try the NAAIRS Database which gave a few Elizabeth Hunters and Sarah Hunters. Also tried searching for any records containing Jameson Hunter to no avail. Any info about places and timelines may help. Regards Dave Long Researching: LONG, MURPHY, GRANT, BRAITHWAITE, HUNTER ---------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 03:49:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Heather Hall <yello99rose@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Scottish Hunter or Jamieson Hunter in South Africa Hi Dave, I see that you're researching the name HUNTER in SA, presumably from Scottish roots... I have a Scottish/South African ancestor called SARAH ELIZABETH JAMIESON HUNTER, & would be very interested to hear from you (or anyone else) if these names sound familiar. Many thanks, Heather