Hi is anyone researching the name VOGEL? I am trying to find the parents of Johanna VOGEL who married Johan POTGIETER sometime in the 1850's in the Alexandria district. Any help would be wonderful. Thanks Moyra Joyce Bedford

Hi I am looking for the parents of Louisa Osche who died in 1954, age 64, Port Elizabeth. She was married to William Cherry. Any help will be much appreciated. Cheers Jennifer Graham & Jennifer Lloyd [Genealogical & Historical Research] 2 Constantia Court River's End Road Plumstead 7800 Cape Town South Africa Tel: +0027 (0)21 7974875 Mobile: 0824037343 email: lacey@yebo.co.za www.southafricanfamily.com I'm not stuck, I'm Ancestrally challenged Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass It's about learning to dance in the rain

thank you Phil and Steve for your responses I can see I need to dig further, the plot thickens. regards Dee -------------------------------------------------- From: <south-africa-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 7:01 PM To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 193 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Erasmus (Denise Whitehead) > 2. Re: Erasmus (Steve Hayes) > 3. Re: Erasmus (Philip Curtis) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 09:52:53 +1200 > From: "Denise Whitehead" <dlwhitehead@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Erasmus > To: "SA Rootsweb" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <131FB651EC0A4EBE8410C5161BF47929@DenisePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello again listers, > > I have found NAAIRS doc that says ; > Description ex Parte application, Charles Edward Erasmus > Starting 1963 > Ending 1963 > I may be clutching at straws as I have no other information about him > other than his parents were Theunis Theodore Erasmus and Golda Sally > Woolf. > Sally and Theunis were married in Barberton 1884 so I surmise he must have > been born after that. > His siblings were Edmund Theodore(1895 1948) Isabel and Alice. > > Can anyone please tell me what ex parte application means? > Dee > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 05:53:52 +0200 > From: "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Erasmus > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4E17ECF0.3324.1F8371@localhost> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On 9 Jul 2011 at 9:52, Denise Whitehead wrote: > >> Hello again listers, >> >> I have found NAAIRS doc that says ; >> Description ex Parte application, Charles Edward Erasmus >> Starting 1963 >> Ending 1963 >> I may be clutching at straws as I have no other information about him >> other >> than his parents were Theunis Theodore Erasmus and Golda Sally Woolf. >> Sally >> and Theunis were married in Barberton 1884 so I surmise he must have been >> born >> after that. His siblings were Edmund Theodore(1895 1948) Isabel and >> Alice. >> >> Can anyone please tell me what ex parte application means? >> Dee > > Ex Parte is an application for a cort order in which there is no opposing > party. Sometimes it is for a change of name, or asking to do something > contrary to the provisions of a will in a deceased estate or something > like > that. > > > -- > Steve Hayes > E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk > Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) > Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com > Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 > Fax: 086-548-2525 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 06:28:35 +0200 > From: Philip Curtis <russellf97@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Erasmus > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAFfEiS2JhZ2Jioh-fjjL3VzODh8iEP7b+D2e7LU46sf1+Eo8Kw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello Dee, > > ex-parte = from one side only. > > It's a legal expression which means literally 'from a party', applied to a > proceeding in which only one side of the case is presented, and the > opposing > side is absent. > > Regards, > > Phil > > > On 8 July 2011 23:52, Denise Whitehead <dlwhitehead@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > >> Hello again listers, >> >> I have found NAAIRS doc that says ; >> Description ex Parte application, Charles Edward Erasmus >> Starting 1963 >> Ending 1963 >> I may be clutching at straws as I have no other information about him >> other >> than his parents were Theunis Theodore Erasmus and Golda Sally Woolf. >> Sally and Theunis were married in Barberton 1884 so I surmise he must >> have >> been born after that. >> His siblings were Edmund Theodore(1895 1948) Isabel and Alice. >> >> Can anyone please tell me what ex parte application means? >> Dee >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 193 > ********************************************

Hello again listers, I have found NAAIRS doc that says ; Description ex Parte application, Charles Edward Erasmus Starting 1963 Ending 1963 I may be clutching at straws as I have no other information about him other than his parents were Theunis Theodore Erasmus and Golda Sally Woolf. Sally and Theunis were married in Barberton 1884 so I surmise he must have been born after that. His siblings were Edmund Theodore(1895 1948) Isabel and Alice. Can anyone please tell me what ex parte application means? Dee

Hello Dee, ex-parte = from one side only. It's a legal expression which means literally 'from a party', applied to a proceeding in which only one side of the case is presented, and the opposing side is absent. Regards, Phil On 8 July 2011 23:52, Denise Whitehead <dlwhitehead@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Hello again listers, > > I have found NAAIRS doc that says ; > Description ex Parte application, Charles Edward Erasmus > Starting 1963 > Ending 1963 > I may be clutching at straws as I have no other information about him other > than his parents were Theunis Theodore Erasmus and Golda Sally Woolf. > Sally and Theunis were married in Barberton 1884 so I surmise he must have > been born after that. > His siblings were Edmund Theodore(1895 1948) Isabel and Alice. > > Can anyone please tell me what ex parte application means? > Dee > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 9 Jul 2011 at 9:52, Denise Whitehead wrote: > Hello again listers, > > I have found NAAIRS doc that says ; > Description ex Parte application, Charles Edward Erasmus > Starting 1963 > Ending 1963 > I may be clutching at straws as I have no other information about him other > than his parents were Theunis Theodore Erasmus and Golda Sally Woolf. Sally > and Theunis were married in Barberton 1884 so I surmise he must have been born > after that. His siblings were Edmund Theodore(1895 1948) Isabel and Alice. > > Can anyone please tell me what ex parte application means? > Dee Ex Parte is an application for a cort order in which there is no opposing party. Sometimes it is for a change of name, or asking to do something contrary to the provisions of a will in a deceased estate or something like that. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

Alexandria was founded in 1854, previously part of Uitenhage. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 02:26:52 AM EDT From: "Moyra Joyce" <moyraj@r63.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] [ZA-IB]LDS site - ALBANIE and BEAUFORT WEST Dutch Reformed Various 1882 - 1885 Baptisms Hi has anyone found Alexandria earlier than 1882? Moyra

Radio Sonder Grense het op Saterdae aande net voor middernag n boek program waar jy kan vra vir boeke soos die een waarna jy soek. Die boekeruil is gratis en baie suksesvol Groete Magda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trysie Joubert" <wilmavzyl@gmail.com> To: "Eastern Cape List" <SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com>; <south-africa@rootsweb.com>; "Buitenpsten" <buitenposten@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:20 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Pieter, Nero en Gaboe >I am interested in the Groot Marico families and would like to find the >book > 'Pieter Nero en Gaboe' written in 1948 by AF Oberholzer. It was prescribed > for the From 2 pupils in High Schools. > > Please contact me if you can help me finding this book. > > Regards > > Trysie Joubert > Hartbeespoort > 012-2598039 > 0797675539 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3749 - Release Date: 07/07/11 > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3749 - Release Date: 07/07/11

I am interested in the Groot Marico families and would like to find the book 'Pieter Nero en Gaboe' written in 1948 by AF Oberholzer. It was prescribed for the From 2 pupils in High Schools. Please contact me if you can help me finding this book. Regards Trysie Joubert Hartbeespoort 012-2598039 0797675539

Hi has anyone found Alexandria earlier than 1882? Moyra -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Leanne Starkey Sent: 05 July 2011 02:20 PM To: ZA-IB Rootsweb; south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] [ZA-IB]LDS site - ALBANIE and BEAUFORT WEST Dutch Reformed Various 1882 - 1885 Baptisms Duplicate Baptism Records for the following areas, for the years 1882 - 1885 : Images 1 - 19 UITENHAGE Images 20 - 53 SOMERSET EAST Images 74 - 87 Gemeente ALBANIE Images 88 - 93 STOCKENSTROM Images 94 - 118 HUMANSDORP Images 119 - 136 ALEXANDRIA Images 137 - 146 GREYKERK Images 147 - 161 MACLEAR Images 171 - 181 UITENHAGE Images 182 - 199 SOMERSET EAST Images 199 - 210 GLEN LYNDEN Images 211 - 216 ALBANIE Images 216 - 219 STOCKENSTROM Images 220 - 236 HUMANSDORP Images 237 - 248 ALEXANDRIA Images 249 - 257 GREYKERK Images 258 - 267 MACLEAN Images 268 - 272 VICTORIA EAST & PEDDIE Images 273 - 304 Ring van BEAUFORT WEST Images 305 - 324 RICHMOND Images 325 - 341 FRASERBURG Images 341 - 367 VICTORIA WEST Images 368 - 380 MURRAYSBURG Images 380 - 411 CARNARVON Images 412 - 422 PRIESKA Images 423 - 442 BEAUFORT WEST Images 443 - 453 RICHMOND Link to register : https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.familysearc h.org/records/pal%3A/MM9.1.i/dgs%3A004227611.004227611_00004 best wishes, Leanne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3744 - Release Date: 07/04/11

On 6 Jul 2011 at 22:05, Nicola Jenkin wrote: > If you are not aware, I've been working through the book 'Cornish Pioneers in > South Africa', by Richard Dawe, and pulling together a list of names > mentioned, and where possible providing information on them. > > If you would like to receive a copy of the list, and would like to be added to > my mailing list to receive future installments, please e-mail me. I'd be interested in any Growden/Growdon, Greenaway and Sandercock you may find. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

Hi, If you are not aware, I've been working through the book 'Cornish Pioneers in South Africa', by Richard Dawe, and pulling together a list of names mentioned, and where possible providing information on them. If you would like to receive a copy of the list, and would like to be added to my mailing list to receive future installments, please e-mail me. Nicola -- *Nicola Jenkin* npjenkin@gmail.com Oxfordshire, UK Families researching: Jenkin, Strong, Alkin, Carnell, Pavey, Haddigan

This is wonderful, thank you so much. I have found two new additions to my family. Where can I find the records before 1882? I hope they have also been done. Moyra Joyce Bedford -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Leanne Starkey Sent: 05 July 2011 02:20 PM To: ZA-IB Rootsweb; south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] [ZA-IB]LDS site - ALBANIE and BEAUFORT WEST Dutch Reformed Various 1882 - 1885 Baptisms Duplicate Baptism Records for the following areas, for the years 1882 - 1885 : Images 1 - 19 UITENHAGE Images 20 - 53 SOMERSET EAST Images 74 - 87 Gemeente ALBANIE Images 88 - 93 STOCKENSTROM Images 94 - 118 HUMANSDORP Images 119 - 136 ALEXANDRIA Images 137 - 146 GREYKERK Images 147 - 161 MACLEAR Images 171 - 181 UITENHAGE Images 182 - 199 SOMERSET EAST Images 199 - 210 GLEN LYNDEN Images 211 - 216 ALBANIE Images 216 - 219 STOCKENSTROM Images 220 - 236 HUMANSDORP Images 237 - 248 ALEXANDRIA Images 249 - 257 GREYKERK Images 258 - 267 MACLEAN Images 268 - 272 VICTORIA EAST & PEDDIE Images 273 - 304 Ring van BEAUFORT WEST Images 305 - 324 RICHMOND Images 325 - 341 FRASERBURG Images 341 - 367 VICTORIA WEST Images 368 - 380 MURRAYSBURG Images 380 - 411 CARNARVON Images 412 - 422 PRIESKA Images 423 - 442 BEAUFORT WEST Images 443 - 453 RICHMOND Link to register : https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.familysearc h.org/records/pal%3A/MM9.1.i/dgs%3A004227611.004227611_00004 best wishes, Leanne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3744 - Release Date: 07/04/11

Hi I am trying to help a friend. He is trying to find out any info on John Peter SCHREIBER. He married Helen Frances Margaret KING and had two sons. John was born in 1918 and it is not known if he has since past away. Any info would help. Thanks Moyra Joyce Bedford

Duplicate Baptism Records for the following areas, for the years 1882 - 1885 : Images 1 - 19 UITENHAGE Images 20 - 53 SOMERSET EAST Images 74 - 87 Gemeente ALBANIE Images 88 - 93 STOCKENSTROM Images 94 - 118 HUMANSDORP Images 119 - 136 ALEXANDRIA Images 137 - 146 GREYKERK Images 147 - 161 MACLEAR Images 171 - 181 UITENHAGE Images 182 - 199 SOMERSET EAST Images 199 - 210 GLEN LYNDEN Images 211 - 216 ALBANIE Images 216 - 219 STOCKENSTROM Images 220 - 236 HUMANSDORP Images 237 - 248 ALEXANDRIA Images 249 - 257 GREYKERK Images 258 - 267 MACLEAN Images 268 - 272 VICTORIA EAST & PEDDIE Images 273 - 304 Ring van BEAUFORT WEST Images 305 - 324 RICHMOND Images 325 - 341 FRASERBURG Images 341 - 367 VICTORIA WEST Images 368 - 380 MURRAYSBURG Images 380 - 411 CARNARVON Images 412 - 422 PRIESKA Images 423 - 442 BEAUFORT WEST Images 443 - 453 RICHMOND Link to register : https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.familysearch.org/records/pal%3A/MM9.1.i/dgs%3A004227611.004227611_00004 best wishes, Leanne

And, yes. These records are a notice posted as part of the estate (probate). The address is the place of residence, not necessarily the place of death. The detailed records will be at the Master's (of the Supreme Court) Office. They will include the will, a list of heirs, etc. ... Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 03:18:52 PM EDT From: "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Deceased Estate Records... On 2 Jul 2011 at 16:52, Philip Curtis wrote: > I've found the following records on Ancestry24 and am 99.99% certain the > person noted in the record is in my family tree (the date of birth is on > another record for this man). > Not being familiar with South African records, can someone explain to me > what each of the lines means, and if there is more info available, how I can > access it - bearing in mind that I'm in France? > > The notations in square brackets are mine. > > > 3049/2000 [2000 = year of death?] > Morton Edward > 03 May '22 (DOB) [date of birth] > 20 St. Blaize [20 St Blaize Way?] > Nerina > Durbanville > 7550 (Bellville).-ABSA Trust Beperk (Registrasie Nommer 01/04665/06) > Posbus 1032 > Sanlamhof > 7532. 1ste Vloer > Sanbel Gebou > Ou Paarlweg Nr. 2 > (Bellville > Morton Edward > > There was also another record which was almost the same: > > 3049/2000 > Morton > Edward > 22-05-03 > 03 May '22 (DOB) > 20 St Blaize > Nerina > Durbanville > 7550 > 2000-03-04. ABSA Trust Bpk. [2000-03-04 = date of death?] > Posbus 1032 > Sanlamhof > 7532. > Morton > Edward > > > I managed to find Nerina, Durbanville on Ananzi Maps, and there is a 20 St > Blaize Way. It looks like his address and that of the executors of his estate (the ABSA Bank) -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 2 Jul 2011 at 16:52, Philip Curtis wrote: > I've found the following records on Ancestry24 and am 99.99% certain the > person noted in the record is in my family tree (the date of birth is on > another record for this man). > Not being familiar with South African records, can someone explain to me > what each of the lines means, and if there is more info available, how I can > access it - bearing in mind that I'm in France? > > The notations in square brackets are mine. > > > 3049/2000 [2000 = year of death?] > Morton Edward > 03 May '22 (DOB) [date of birth] > 20 St. Blaize [20 St Blaize Way?] > Nerina > Durbanville > 7550 (Bellville).-ABSA Trust Beperk (Registrasie Nommer 01/04665/06) > Posbus 1032 > Sanlamhof > 7532. 1ste Vloer > Sanbel Gebou > Ou Paarlweg Nr. 2 > (Bellville > Morton Edward > > There was also another record which was almost the same: > > 3049/2000 > Morton > Edward > 22-05-03 > 03 May '22 (DOB) > 20 St Blaize > Nerina > Durbanville > 7550 > 2000-03-04. ABSA Trust Bpk. [2000-03-04 = date of death?] > Posbus 1032 > Sanlamhof > 7532. > Morton > Edward > > > I managed to find Nerina, Durbanville on Ananzi Maps, and there is a 20 St > Blaize Way. It looks like his address and that of the executors of his estate (the ABSA Bank) -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

Hi All, I've found the following records on Ancestry24 and am 99.99% certain the person noted in the record is in my family tree (the date of birth is on another record for this man). Not being familiar with South African records, can someone explain to me what each of the lines means, and if there is more info available, how I can access it - bearing in mind that I'm in France? The notations in square brackets are mine. 3049/2000 [2000 = year of death?] Morton Edward 03 May '22 (DOB) [date of birth] 20 St. Blaize [20 St Blaize Way?] Nerina Durbanville 7550 (Bellville).-ABSA Trust Beperk (Registrasie Nommer 01/04665/06) Posbus 1032 Sanlamhof 7532. 1ste Vloer Sanbel Gebou Ou Paarlweg Nr. 2 (Bellville Morton Edward There was also another record which was almost the same: 3049/2000 Morton Edward 22-05-03 03 May '22 (DOB) 20 St Blaize Nerina Durbanville 7550 2000-03-04. ABSA Trust Bpk. [2000-03-04 = date of death?] Posbus 1032 Sanlamhof 7532. Morton Edward I managed to find Nerina, Durbanville on Ananzi Maps, and there is a 20 St Blaize Way. In itself, it's interesting because he was known to be living and working in Johannesburg in the late 1950s / early 1960s, but it's not known when he moved. Thanks for any advice you can offer... Phil Curtis

"Aliwal North is named in tribute to Sir Harry Smith.[1] Sir Harry Smith, then Governor of the Cape Colony, formally founded the small town of Aliwal North in the Cape Province of South Africa in 1850. He named the town "Aliwal" in memory of his victory over the Sikhs at the Battle of Aliwal during the First Sikh War in India in 1846, and "North" in opposition to Aliwal South (now Mossel Bay)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliwal_North Regards, Francois _____________ Francois Greeff, 36 Aston Road, London, SW20 8BE, United Kingdom Phone: 0044 20 8123 4224. Mobile 0044 79 6372 2345. Skype: Greefffrancois. Greeff Family Web Site: www.Greeff.info -----Original Message----- From: Russell [mailto:rpcdoc@shaw.ca] Sent: 01 July 2011 01:28 To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] LDS site - ALIWAL 1868 - 1879 Baptisms Could some knowledgeable Lister tell me if there was an Aliwal North AND an Aliwal South?

Raper: Aliwal South was an alternate name for Mossel Bay around 1850. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:03:54 AM EDT From: "Francois Greeff" <goodgreeff@hiddencode.co.uk> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] ALIWAL SOUTH = Mossel bay "Aliwal North is named in tribute to Sir Harry Smith.[1] Sir Harry Smith, then Governor of the Cape Colony, formally founded the small town of Aliwal North in the Cape Province of South Africa in 1850. He named the town "Aliwal" in memory of his victory over the Sikhs at the Battle of Aliwal during the First Sikh War in India in 1846, and "North" in opposition to Aliwal South (now Mossel Bay)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliwal_North Regards, Francois _____________ Francois Greeff, 36 Aston Road, London, SW20 8BE, United Kingdom Phone: 0044 20 8123 4224. Mobile 0044 79 6372 2345. Skype: Greefffrancois. Greeff Family Web Site: www.Greeff.info -----Original Message----- From: Russell [mailto:rpcdoc@shaw.ca] Sent: 01 July 2011 01:28 To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] LDS site - ALIWAL 1868 - 1879 Baptisms Could some knowledgeable Lister tell me if there was an Aliwal North AND an Aliwal South? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message