armed personal carrier ??? Take care Lynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Long" <dave.long@telkomsa.net> To: <BOER-WAR@rootsweb.com>; <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:01 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > Does anyone know what the abbreviation 'ACP' stands for in a military > context? > > It pops up on the BCCD website (British Concentration Camps of the South > African War 1900-1902): > http://www.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/ > Examples where used: > . Reason departure : transferred ACP Town > > . Reason departure: returned home, ACP Fordsburg. > > . Reason departure: gone to live per ACP. Destination: > Johannesburg. > > . Reason departure: to town, per ACP. > > Also of interest is that the some wives of the POW's are listed in the > searchable database under the names of their husbands (e.g. Mrs Joe > Bloggs). >

Active Citizen Participation ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: <south-africa-request@rootsweb.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:00 AM Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 217 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Meaning of 'ACP' ? (Dave Long) > 2. Re: PMB Jordaan (John Deare) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 23:01:49 +0200 > From: "Dave Long" <dave.long@telkomsa.net> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > To: <BOER-WAR@rootsweb.com>, <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGa0PNBW5BVBhPNTKiUmlUzCgAAAEAAAAKR85SDz5INIoCBUJjmAF1IBAAAAAA==@telkomsa.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good day > > > > Does anyone know what the abbreviation 'ACP' stands for in a military > context? > > > > It pops up on the BCCD website (British Concentration Camps of the South > African War 1900-1902): > > > > http://www.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/ > > > > Examples where used: > > > > . Reason departure : transferred ACP Town > > . Reason departure: returned home, ACP Fordsburg. > > . Reason departure: gone to live per ACP. Destination: > Johannesburg. > > . Reason departure: to town, per ACP. > > > > Also of interest is that the some wives of the POW's are listed in the > searchable database under the names of their husbands (e.g. Mrs Joe > Bloggs). > > > > > > Regards > > Dave Long, Cape Town > > > > Researching: LONG, MURPHY, GRANT, BRAITHWAITE, HUNTER > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 07:46:18 +0200 > From: "John Deare" <dearej@mweb.co.za> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] PMB Jordaan > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <201108080546.p785kJGQ016017@mail.rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Reply 2...afterthought...are you researching SHAW. We have 2 members who > have done work on this name. > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michele Shaw > Sent: 06 August 2011 01:27 PM > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] PMB Jordaan > > Hi Johnca, > > Could you do a look up in the PMB archives? > Please contact me off list at sunshine.shaw@telkomsa.net > > Michele Shaw > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan Southern > Sent: 05 August 2011 10:57 PM > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] PMB Jordaan > > Thanks Johnca > I have had a good lead given to me and I might take you up on that offer. > Regards > Allan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Deare" <dearej@mweb.co.za> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] PMB Jordaan > > >> Regret I can only access old (30+ years) files. More recent ones are in >> the >> Masters Office. >> John >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dr MJS Jordaan >> Sent: 05 August 2011 05:44 PM >> To: south-africa@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] PMB Jordaan >> >> Dear Johnca >> >> Could you assist with death notices of Jordaan s since 2005? >> Regards >> Marthinus >> >> >> To Michele & Alan. If there are any estate files in Pietermaritzburg >> Archives I go in there quite frequently and can do a look-up. >> Johnca >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan Southern >> Sent: 05 August 2011 01:39 PM >> To: south-africa@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Curston >> >> Hello Michele >> >> I wonder if you do me a huge favor. I am looking for any Curston in SA >> since 1902. I have been looking for well over 8 years but from Capetown >> this is not too easy. The only place I havent looked are the Masters >> Office >> records. I do know that they arrived in Durban in 1902 and were resident >> in >> Durban in 1958 still. (Lionel Curston). Is there any way to check if they >> are on your database? >> >> Many thanks >> Alan Southern >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michele Cocker" <michele.cocker@mweb.co.za> >> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Pretorius x Jacoby >> >> >>> Hello Colin >>> >>> Not triggering anything my side but I did a quick scan of my South >>> African >>> Masters Office files database (excluding JHB) and I have found some hits >>> on >>> the 2 parents names. You are welcome to the info if you want it. I can >>> extract the data into a spreadsheet and send it to you. >>> >>> Let me know >>> Michele Cocker >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colin Pretorius >>> Sent: 05 August 2011 12:15 PM >>> To: south-africa@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Pretorius x Jacoby >>> >>> Evening all >>> >>> >>> >>> I have received the following query: >>> >>> >>> >>> "I am one of 5 children born to Agnes Florence Jacoby who married >>> Johannes >>> Diederick Pretorius. Agnes ( born 18.8.1947), Deserae, Yvonne, Douglas >>> and >>> John. We grew up in an orphanage. Hope you can help. 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Can we please have the abbreviation in its original context. Regards, Francois _____________ Francois Greeff, 36 Aston Road, London, SW20 8BE, United Kingdom Phone: 0044 20 8123 4224. Mobile 0044 79 6372 2345. Skype: Greefffrancois. Greeff Family Web Site: www.Greeff.info

These entries are mostly linked to transfers of wives and children of POW's > and I get the impression that 'ACP' refers to a form of 'army command post' > in the suburbs of Johannesburg (e.g. Fordsburg ACP, Braamfontein ACP). This > post or office seems to have approved transfers to other camps mentioned > elsewhere in the entry (under the Destination). > Dave, As you pointed out , It seems the acronym has been chiefly used in the Johannesburg camp registers (Irene is one exception) and I believe it might well refer to the "Anti commando" units operational in the area. There is a reference to ACP (Div C). Prisoners might well have been escourted by the patrol and the unit might well have been responsible for keeping an eye on them afterwards. So I'd guess "anit commando patrol" or "anti commando police" Leanne

Hi Dave Putting 2 and 2 together from all that has been said I come up with an answer that is not equal to 4 but my logic says * We can all agree that we are talking about BW Camps * You said it is linked to the transfer of POW's family * Allan has said that military police are called Provost So how about ARMED CAMP PROVOST or ACCOMPANING CAMP PROVOST Also what about joining the BOER-WAR mailing list and putting this question to them. Regards Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Long" <dave.long@telkomsa.net> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > Thanks to all who have responded so far. > > I have checked my sources and confirm that the abbreviation 'ACP' was used > on entries relating mainly to the Johannesburg Camp Register. > > These entries are mostly linked to transfers of wives and children of > POW's > and I get the impression that 'ACP' refers to a form of 'army command > post' > in the suburbs of Johannesburg (e.g. Fordsburg ACP, Braamfontein ACP). > This > post or office seems to have approved transfers to other camps mentioned > elsewhere in the entry (under the Destination). > > Using the Acronym Finder website (http://www.acronymfinder.com) and > selecting Military & Govt, there are 68 possibilities for 'ACP' of which > the > following are the more likely candidates: > > Area Command Post > Administrative Command Post > Army Civilian Personnel (or similar mentioned by many of the listers) > Assistant Commissioner of Police > Access Control Point > Assault Command Post > Alternate Command Post > > My tendency is towards the first two mentioned above but the jury is still > out. Johannesburg was the only urban camp in the country and even had > people > staying in the Turfontein Race Course's grandstand and on mining compounds > (see http://www.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/Histories/Johannesburg/ ). > > Another acronym 'APM' was commonly used to refer to the Assistant Provost > Marshall. This person appears to have been at the larger camps and issued > many orders relating to transfers. > > Dave > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > > From: "Colin M?hr" <mohr@lantic.net> > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:05 PM > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > >> How about As Civilian Person? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter John Jones" <peter_jones@telkomsa.net> >> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:40 AM >> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >> >> >>> If you google "ACP military term" you get some 45 possibilities; None of >>> them seem to refer to concentration camps so your guess is as good as >>> mine. >>> >>> Pete >>> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to all who have responded so far. I have checked my sources and confirm that the abbreviation 'ACP' was used on entries relating mainly to the Johannesburg Camp Register. These entries are mostly linked to transfers of wives and children of POW's and I get the impression that 'ACP' refers to a form of 'army command post' in the suburbs of Johannesburg (e.g. Fordsburg ACP, Braamfontein ACP). This post or office seems to have approved transfers to other camps mentioned elsewhere in the entry (under the Destination). Using the Acronym Finder website (http://www.acronymfinder.com) and selecting Military & Govt, there are 68 possibilities for 'ACP' of which the following are the more likely candidates: Area Command Post Administrative Command Post Army Civilian Personnel (or similar mentioned by many of the listers) Assistant Commissioner of Police Access Control Point Assault Command Post Alternate Command Post My tendency is towards the first two mentioned above but the jury is still out. Johannesburg was the only urban camp in the country and even had people staying in the Turfontein Race Course's grandstand and on mining compounds (see http://www.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/Histories/Johannesburg/ ). Another acronym 'APM' was commonly used to refer to the Assistant Provost Marshall. This person appears to have been at the larger camps and issued many orders relating to transfers. Dave ------------------------------ Message: 4 From: "Colin M?hr" <mohr@lantic.net> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:05 PM To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > How about As Civilian Person? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter John Jones" <peter_jones@telkomsa.net> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:40 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > > >> If you google "ACP military term" you get some 45 possibilities; None of >> them seem to refer to concentration camps so your guess is as good as >> mine. >> >> Pete >>

I spoke to Colonel Graham Du Toit and he said that the war 1900 - 19002 it would possibly be either: Army Camp Personal or Administrative Camp Personal The Acting Point Control scenario would be used in WW2. Regards, Glynis -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan Southern Sent: 09 August 2011 10:46 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? I vaguely remember that the Provost was the military police in those days....They would have given authorization for people, citizens and military, to move around in the district or between districts. Almost a martial law senario. In more modern times I found the acronym Access Control Point. Not sure ....just an idea. Regards Allan Southern ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Möhr" <mohr@lantic.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? or Amnesty Civilian Person or As Civilian Prisoner? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Möhr" <mohr@lantic.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > How about As Civilian Person? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter John Jones" <peter_jones@telkomsa.net> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:40 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > > >> If you google "ACP military term" you get some 45 possibilities; None of >> them seem to refer to concentration camps so your guess is as good as >> mine. >> >> Pete >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michele Cocker" <michele.cocker@mweb.co.za> >> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >> >> >>> My husband is a Military history boff. >>> >>> He doesn't know (sounds funny in retrospect doesn't it?) but he has >>> posted >>> a >>> question on several of his war forums. >>> >>> So if no-one else on the mailing list can help - you do have a bunch of >>> war >>> boff's on it for you. >>> >>> Regards >>> Michele >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Long >>> Sent: 07 August 2011 23:02 PM >>> To: BOER-WAR@rootsweb.com; SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >>> >>> Good day >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know what the abbreviation 'ACP' stands for in a military >>> context? >>> >>> >>> >>> It pops up on the BCCD website (British Concentration Camps of the >>> South >>> African War 1900-1902): >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Examples where used: >>> >>> >>> >>> . Reason departure : transferred ACP Town >>> >>> . Reason departure: returned home, ACP Fordsburg. >>> >>> . Reason departure: gone to live per ACP. Destination: >>> Johannesburg. >>> >>> . Reason departure: to town, per ACP. >>> >>> >>> >>> Also of interest is that the some wives of the POW's are listed in the >>> searchable database under the names of their husbands (e.g. Mrs Joe >>> Bloggs). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Dave Long, Cape Town >>> >>> >>> >>> Researching: LONG, MURPHY, GRANT, BRAITHWAITE, HUNTER >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

IS it not some kind of parole? regards Karel Marais Sent from my Nokia, they are typing mistakes! -----Original Message----- From: Colin Möhr Sent: 09/08/2011 09:06:48 Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? or Amnesty Civilian Person or As Civilian Prisoner? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Möhr" <mohr@lantic.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > How about As Civilian Person? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter John Jones" <peter_jones@telkomsa.net> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:40 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > > >> If you google "ACP military term" you get some 45 possibilities; None of >> them seem to refer to concentration camps so your guess is as good as >> mine. >> >> Pete >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michele Cocker" <michele.cocker@mweb.co.za> >> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >> >> >>> My husband is a Military history boff. >>> >>> He doesn't know (sounds funny in retrospect doesn't it?) but he has >>> posted >>> a >>> question on several of his war forums. >>> >>> So if no-one else on the mailing list can help - you do have a bunch of >>> war >>> boff's on it for you. >>> >>> Regards >>> Michele >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Long >>> Sent: 07 August 2011 23:02 PM >>> To: BOER-WAR@rootsweb.com; SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >>> >>> Good day >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know what the abbreviation 'ACP' stands for in a military >>> context? >>> >>> >>> >>> It pops up on the BCCD website (British Concentration Camps of the >>> South >>> African War 1900-1902): >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Examples where used: >>> >>> >>> >>> . Reason departure : transferred ACP Town >>> >>> . Reason departure: returned home, ACP Fordsburg. >>> >>> . Reason departure: gone to live per ACP. Destination: >>> Johannesburg. >>> >>> . Reason departure: to town, per ACP. >>> >>> >>> >>> Also of interest is that the some wives of the POW's are listed in the >>> searchable database under the names of their husbands (e.g. Mrs Joe >>> Bloggs). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Dave Long, Cape Town >>> >>> >>> >>> Researching: LONG, MURPHY, GRANT, BRAITHWAITE, HUNTER >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi folks. This abbreviation pertains to the British "Refugee Camps" of the AB War. It must therefore be in context of that time. Ässistant Camp P-something"? Kingston Patrick S Cuthbert 4 Stockenstrom St, George 6529 RSA Box 2005, George 6530 RSA Tel: 0448743655 Cell: 0827239608 Alt Cell: 0725468987 Fax: 0865144306 Email: shoes@telkomsa.net www.palsembroiderypatterns.yolasite.com Syva RapidTest d.a.u. -Siemens urine testing of drugs of abuse -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn MacLeod Sent: 09 August 2011 09:40 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? armed personal carrier ??? Take care Lynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Long" <dave.long@telkomsa.net> To: <BOER-WAR@rootsweb.com>; <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:01 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > Does anyone know what the abbreviation 'ACP' stands for in a military > context? > > It pops up on the BCCD website (British Concentration Camps of the South > African War 1900-1902): > http://www.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/ > Examples where used: > . Reason departure : transferred ACP Town > > . Reason departure: returned home, ACP Fordsburg. > > . Reason departure: gone to live per ACP. Destination: > Johannesburg. > > . Reason departure: to town, per ACP. > > Also of interest is that the some wives of the POW's are listed in the > searchable database under the names of their husbands (e.g. Mrs Joe > Bloggs). > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6361 (20110808) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

See if anyone has access to old 'Brabys' type directories. Sometimes found in Archives. John -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Leeanne Blunden Sent: 09 August 2011 10:03 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Nursing Homes, Johannesburg Hello, Does anyone know where I might find information / photographs about Nursing Homes in Johannesburg which may have existed c. 1944? On his death notice my great grandfather is listed as having died in CARLINGTON NURSING HOME, JHB. However a search for that place on Google brings up no results, there is only a possible link to a Carrington Nursing Home, so I'm trying to verify whether Carlington actually existed, or whether there was a spelling error on the death notice. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Leeanne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3822 - Release Date: 08/08/11

I vaguely remember that the Provost was the military police in those days....They would have given authorization for people, citizens and military, to move around in the district or between districts. Almost a martial law senario. In more modern times I found the acronym Access Control Point. Not sure ....just an idea. Regards Allan Southern ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Möhr" <mohr@lantic.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? or Amnesty Civilian Person or As Civilian Prisoner? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Möhr" <mohr@lantic.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > How about As Civilian Person? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter John Jones" <peter_jones@telkomsa.net> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:40 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > > >> If you google "ACP military term" you get some 45 possibilities; None of >> them seem to refer to concentration camps so your guess is as good as >> mine. >> >> Pete >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michele Cocker" <michele.cocker@mweb.co.za> >> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >> >> >>> My husband is a Military history boff. >>> >>> He doesn't know (sounds funny in retrospect doesn't it?) but he has >>> posted >>> a >>> question on several of his war forums. >>> >>> So if no-one else on the mailing list can help - you do have a bunch of >>> war >>> boff's on it for you. >>> >>> Regards >>> Michele >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Long >>> Sent: 07 August 2011 23:02 PM >>> To: BOER-WAR@rootsweb.com; SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >>> >>> Good day >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know what the abbreviation 'ACP' stands for in a military >>> context? >>> >>> >>> >>> It pops up on the BCCD website (British Concentration Camps of the >>> South >>> African War 1900-1902): >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Examples where used: >>> >>> >>> >>> . Reason departure : transferred ACP Town >>> >>> . Reason departure: returned home, ACP Fordsburg. >>> >>> . Reason departure: gone to live per ACP. Destination: >>> Johannesburg. >>> >>> . Reason departure: to town, per ACP. >>> >>> >>> >>> Also of interest is that the some wives of the POW's are listed in the >>> searchable database under the names of their husbands (e.g. Mrs Joe >>> Bloggs). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Dave Long, Cape Town >>> >>> >>> >>> Researching: LONG, MURPHY, GRANT, BRAITHWAITE, HUNTER >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Does anyone know where I might find information / photographs about Nursing Homes in Johannesburg which may have existed c. 1944? On his death notice my great grandfather is listed as having died in CARLINGTON NURSING HOME, JHB. However a search for that place on Google brings up no results, there is only a possible link to a Carrington Nursing Home, so I'm trying to verify whether Carlington actually existed, or whether there was a spelling error on the death notice. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Leeanne

Tara Hospital in Johannesburg was used as a military hospital during WW2. They have info about the history. Parts of the original building are still in use. Regards Magda Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> Sender: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 05:19:16 To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Nursing Homes, Johannesburg I would start by looking for phone books and business directories. Maybe Ancestry24 has some? Otherwise, try the public library or the Africana Museum. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 04:33:06 AM EDT From: "Leeanne Blunden" <lblunden@telkomsa.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Nursing Homes, Johannesburg Hello, Does anyone know where I might find information / photographs about Nursing Homes in Johannesburg which may have existed c. 1944? On his death notice my great grandfather is listed as having died in CARLINGTON NURSING HOME, JHB. However a search for that place on Google brings up no results, there is only a possible link to a Carrington Nursing Home, so I'm trying to verify whether Carlington actually existed, or whether there was a spelling error on the death notice. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Leeanne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

or Amnesty Civilian Person or As Civilian Prisoner? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Möhr" <mohr@lantic.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > How about As Civilian Person? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter John Jones" <peter_jones@telkomsa.net> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:40 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > > >> If you google "ACP military term" you get some 45 possibilities; None of >> them seem to refer to concentration camps so your guess is as good as >> mine. >> >> Pete >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michele Cocker" <michele.cocker@mweb.co.za> >> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >> >> >>> My husband is a Military history boff. >>> >>> He doesn't know (sounds funny in retrospect doesn't it?) but he has >>> posted >>> a >>> question on several of his war forums. >>> >>> So if no-one else on the mailing list can help - you do have a bunch of >>> war >>> boff's on it for you. >>> >>> Regards >>> Michele >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Long >>> Sent: 07 August 2011 23:02 PM >>> To: BOER-WAR@rootsweb.com; SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >>> >>> Good day >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know what the abbreviation 'ACP' stands for in a military >>> context? >>> >>> >>> >>> It pops up on the BCCD website (British Concentration Camps of the >>> South >>> African War 1900-1902): >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Examples where used: >>> >>> >>> >>> . Reason departure : transferred ACP Town >>> >>> . Reason departure: returned home, ACP Fordsburg. >>> >>> . Reason departure: gone to live per ACP. Destination: >>> Johannesburg. >>> >>> . Reason departure: to town, per ACP. >>> >>> >>> >>> Also of interest is that the some wives of the POW's are listed in the >>> searchable database under the names of their husbands (e.g. Mrs Joe >>> Bloggs). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Dave Long, Cape Town >>> >>> >>> >>> Researching: LONG, MURPHY, GRANT, BRAITHWAITE, HUNTER >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with Francois. Active Citizen Force. the kind of territorial forces that many countries have. It was always the South African term. Patricia Frykberg -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Möhr" <mohr@lantic.net> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:05 PM To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > How about As Civilian Person? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter John Jones" <peter_jones@telkomsa.net> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:40 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > > >> If you google "ACP military term" you get some 45 possibilities; None of >> them seem to refer to concentration camps so your guess is as good as >> mine. >> >> Pete >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michele Cocker" <michele.cocker@mweb.co.za> >> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >> >> >>> My husband is a Military history boff. >>> >>> He doesn't know (sounds funny in retrospect doesn't it?) but he has >>> posted >>> a >>> question on several of his war forums. >>> >>> So if no-one else on the mailing list can help - you do have a bunch of >>> war >>> boff's on it for you. >>> >>> Regards >>> Michele >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Long >>> Sent: 07 August 2011 23:02 PM >>> To: BOER-WAR@rootsweb.com; SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >>> >>> Good day >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know what the abbreviation 'ACP' stands for in a military >>> context? >>> >>> >>> >>> It pops up on the BCCD website (British Concentration Camps of the >>> South >>> African War 1900-1902): >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Examples where used: >>> >>> >>> >>> . Reason departure : transferred ACP Town >>> >>> . Reason departure: returned home, ACP Fordsburg. >>> >>> . Reason departure: gone to live per ACP. Destination: >>> Johannesburg. >>> >>> . Reason departure: to town, per ACP. >>> >>> >>> >>> Also of interest is that the some wives of the POW's are listed in the >>> searchable database under the names of their husbands (e.g. Mrs Joe >>> Bloggs). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Dave Long, Cape Town >>> >>> >>> >>> Researching: LONG, MURPHY, GRANT, BRAITHWAITE, HUNTER >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1391 / Virus Database: 1520/3820 - Release Date: 08/07/11 >

I would start by looking for phone books and business directories. Maybe Ancestry24 has some? Otherwise, try the public library or the Africana Museum. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 04:33:06 AM EDT From: "Leeanne Blunden" <lblunden@telkomsa.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Nursing Homes, Johannesburg Hello, Does anyone know where I might find information / photographs about Nursing Homes in Johannesburg which may have existed c. 1944? On his death notice my great grandfather is listed as having died in CARLINGTON NURSING HOME, JHB. However a search for that place on Google brings up no results, there is only a possible link to a Carrington Nursing Home, so I'm trying to verify whether Carlington actually existed, or whether there was a spelling error on the death notice. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Leeanne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think the dates mentioned were before the Active Citizens Force was established. John -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Frykberg Sent: 08 August 2011 07:59 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? I agree with Francois. Active Citizen Force. the kind of territorial forces that many countries have. It was always the South African term. Patricia Frykberg -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Möhr" <mohr@lantic.net> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:05 PM To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > How about As Civilian Person? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter John Jones" <peter_jones@telkomsa.net> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:40 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > > >> If you google "ACP military term" you get some 45 possibilities; None of >> them seem to refer to concentration camps so your guess is as good as >> mine. >> >> Pete >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michele Cocker" <michele.cocker@mweb.co.za> >> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >> >> >>> My husband is a Military history boff. >>> >>> He doesn't know (sounds funny in retrospect doesn't it?) but he has >>> posted >>> a >>> question on several of his war forums. >>> >>> So if no-one else on the mailing list can help - you do have a bunch of >>> war >>> boff's on it for you. >>> >>> Regards >>> Michele >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Long >>> Sent: 07 August 2011 23:02 PM >>> To: BOER-WAR@rootsweb.com; SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >>> >>> Good day >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know what the abbreviation 'ACP' stands for in a military >>> context? >>> >>> >>> >>> It pops up on the BCCD website (British Concentration Camps of the >>> South >>> African War 1900-1902): >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Examples where used: >>> >>> >>> >>> . Reason departure : transferred ACP Town >>> >>> . Reason departure: returned home, ACP Fordsburg. >>> >>> . Reason departure: gone to live per ACP. Destination: >>> Johannesburg. >>> >>> . Reason departure: to town, per ACP. >>> >>> >>> >>> Also of interest is that the some wives of the POW's are listed in the >>> searchable database under the names of their husbands (e.g. Mrs Joe >>> Bloggs). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Dave Long, Cape Town >>> >>> >>> >>> Researching: LONG, MURPHY, GRANT, BRAITHWAITE, HUNTER >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1391 / Virus Database: 1520/3820 - Release Date: 08/07/11 > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1391 / Virus Database: 1520/3821 - Release Date: 08/08/11

Hi John No I am not researching the Shaw line, but my mother-in-law might be. -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Deare Sent: 08 August 2011 07:46 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] PMB Jordaan Reply 2...afterthought...are you researching SHAW. We have 2 members who have done work on this name. John -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michele Shaw Sent: 06 August 2011 01:27 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] PMB Jordaan Hi Johnca, Could you do a look up in the PMB archives? Please contact me off list at sunshine.shaw@telkomsa.net Michele Shaw -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan Southern Sent: 05 August 2011 10:57 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] PMB Jordaan Thanks Johnca I have had a good lead given to me and I might take you up on that offer. Regards Allan ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Deare" <dearej@mweb.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] PMB Jordaan > Regret I can only access old (30+ years) files. More recent ones are in > the > Masters Office. > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dr MJS Jordaan > Sent: 05 August 2011 05:44 PM > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] PMB Jordaan > > Dear Johnca > > Could you assist with death notices of Jordaan s since 2005? > Regards > Marthinus > > > To Michele & Alan. If there are any estate files in Pietermaritzburg > Archives I go in there quite frequently and can do a look-up. > Johnca > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan Southern > Sent: 05 August 2011 01:39 PM > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Curston > > Hello Michele > > I wonder if you do me a huge favor. I am looking for any Curston in SA > since 1902. I have been looking for well over 8 years but from Capetown > this is not too easy. The only place I havent looked are the Masters > Office > records. I do know that they arrived in Durban in 1902 and were resident > in > Durban in 1958 still. (Lionel Curston). Is there any way to check if they > are on your database? > > Many thanks > Alan Southern > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michele Cocker" <michele.cocker@mweb.co.za> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:26 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Pretorius x Jacoby > > >> Hello Colin >> >> Not triggering anything my side but I did a quick scan of my South >> African >> Masters Office files database (excluding JHB) and I have found some hits >> on >> the 2 parents names. You are welcome to the info if you want it. I can >> extract the data into a spreadsheet and send it to you. >> >> Let me know >> Michele Cocker >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colin Pretorius >> Sent: 05 August 2011 12:15 PM >> To: south-africa@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Pretorius x Jacoby >> >> Evening all >> >> >> >> I have received the following query: >> >> >> >> "I am one of 5 children born to Agnes Florence Jacoby who married >> Johannes >> Diederick Pretorius. Agnes ( born 18.8.1947), Deserae, Yvonne, Douglas >> and >> John. We grew up in an orphanage. Hope you can help. I believe they have >> both passed away." >> >> >> >> Not much to go on, but I'm hoping the above may trigger something >> somewhere.. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Colin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1391 / Virus Database: 1518/3811 - Release Date: 08/04/11 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1391 / Virus Database: 1518/3811 - Release Date: 08/04/11 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. 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How about As Civilian Person? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter John Jones" <peter_jones@telkomsa.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > If you google "ACP military term" you get some 45 possibilities; None of > them seem to refer to concentration camps so your guess is as good as > mine. > > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michele Cocker" <michele.cocker@mweb.co.za> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:25 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > > >> My husband is a Military history boff. >> >> He doesn't know (sounds funny in retrospect doesn't it?) but he has >> posted >> a >> question on several of his war forums. >> >> So if no-one else on the mailing list can help - you do have a bunch of >> war >> boff's on it for you. >> >> Regards >> Michele >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Long >> Sent: 07 August 2011 23:02 PM >> To: BOER-WAR@rootsweb.com; SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? >> >> Good day >> >> >> >> Does anyone know what the abbreviation 'ACP' stands for in a military >> context? >> >> >> >> It pops up on the BCCD website (British Concentration Camps of the South >> African War 1900-1902): >> >> >> >> http://www.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/ >> >> >> >> Examples where used: >> >> >> >> . Reason departure : transferred ACP Town >> >> . Reason departure: returned home, ACP Fordsburg. >> >> . Reason departure: gone to live per ACP. Destination: >> Johannesburg. >> >> . Reason departure: to town, per ACP. >> >> >> >> Also of interest is that the some wives of the POW's are listed in the >> searchable database under the names of their husbands (e.g. Mrs Joe >> Bloggs). >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Dave Long, Cape Town >> >> >> >> Researching: LONG, MURPHY, GRANT, BRAITHWAITE, HUNTER >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you google "ACP military term" you get some 45 possibilities; None of them seem to refer to concentration camps so your guess is as good as mine. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michele Cocker" <michele.cocker@mweb.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > My husband is a Military history boff. > > He doesn't know (sounds funny in retrospect doesn't it?) but he has posted > a > question on several of his war forums. > > So if no-one else on the mailing list can help - you do have a bunch of > war > boff's on it for you. > > Regards > Michele > > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Long > Sent: 07 August 2011 23:02 PM > To: BOER-WAR@rootsweb.com; SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Meaning of 'ACP' ? > > Good day > > > > Does anyone know what the abbreviation 'ACP' stands for in a military > context? > > > > It pops up on the BCCD website (British Concentration Camps of the South > African War 1900-1902): > > > > http://www.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/ > > > > Examples where used: > > > > . Reason departure : transferred ACP Town > > . Reason departure: returned home, ACP Fordsburg. > > . Reason departure: gone to live per ACP. Destination: > Johannesburg. > > . Reason departure: to town, per ACP. > > > > Also of interest is that the some wives of the POW's are listed in the > searchable database under the names of their husbands (e.g. Mrs Joe > Bloggs). > > > > > > Regards > > Dave Long, Cape Town > > > > Researching: LONG, MURPHY, GRANT, BRAITHWAITE, HUNTER > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message