hello List, I am looking for the parents of the above Alfred Llewellyn MAGUIRE born 30th December 1902, place of birth believed to be Uitenhage. Any assistance would be appreciated. Ray Hudson -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6556 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi List Just to let everyone know that St George’s Park Cemetery can now be viewed at http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1657660 Regards Carol BENEKE nee STEWART ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families.

Hi, I would be interested to hear from anyone who recognises the above name. She was married to my cousin Peter Henderson BEATH BORN 4.9.1930 in Rustenburg...he died on the operating table at Rustenburg Hospital in about 1990. I'm trying to find out the names of Dalena's parents and if she had any siblings. Dalena I am told died from Alzheimers. Best wishes, Tombi Peck

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1478678 Another set of records released!

If anyone is doing the RUSSOUW Family, please let me know. Regards Donna Today's Topics: 1. Re: Rossouw register (Steve Hayes) 2. Re: AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE (Emjay-Vista) 3. Re: Remarks on KAB file (Darrell) 4. Re: de Beer family (Andre Groenewald) 5. Re: Rossouw register (Brian &Fay Lea) 6. Re: Rossouw register (Hetta Scholtz) 7. Ancestry.com travel records (Keith Meintjes) ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi List Haven't posted in a while but this Rossouw business caught my attention. I am still searching for the family of my Great Grandmother, Johanna Catharina ROSSOUW I think she was born 25 June 1901 in Vryburg and died 25 October 1967 in Oberholzer, I believe her fathers name was Jacobus ROSSOUW but I'm not sure. She was married to a man with the Surname PRETORIUS but I have no information on him. She had two daughters (one of them obviously my grandmother) and their names were May Delores PRETORIUS and Joyce PRETORIUS. Then I am also still searching for my DE BEER family; my great grandmother was Gertina Sophia DE BEER and she was married to Louis Petrus FOURIE (born about 1908 and died about 1991) they had two sons Adam Johannes FOURIE and Joseph FOURIE. I've got some info on the FOURIEs but sadly nothing on my great gran. If anyone comes across them on your lists please let me know. Many thanks Tammy Wellbeloved From: south-africa-request@rootsweb.com Sent:2011-08-30 10:35:58 To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 240 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Rossouw register (Steve Hayes) 2. Re: AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE (Emjay-Vista) 3. Re: Remarks on KAB file (Darrell) 4. Re: de Beer family (Andre Groenewald) 5. Re: Rossouw register (Brian &Fay Lea) 6. Re: Rossouw register (Hetta Scholtz) 7. Ancestry.com travel records (Keith Meintjes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:13:23 +0200 From: "Steve Hayes" Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Rossouw register To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Aug 2011 at 9:07, Brian &Fay Lea wrote: > No Connection - but I have Jacobus Petrus Johannes &his wife Cornelia > Frederika Cilliers and their ancestors and descendants in my Rossouw family > tree. Did any of your ROSSOUW family George Jean August Enslin (1875-1940)? -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:32:02 +0100 From: "Emjay-Vista" Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE To: , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Hullo Magda I have just had the greatest laugh so far today while I was trying to decipher your email below. No offence intended! The first thought was to ask you "Gooie Griet Magda, what has your BlackBerry been smoking??" This got me started and I have just had a good hearty laugh. Thank you for that and I do know you corrected it in a follow up email, but sometimes strange things like this make the day better. Have a good one yourself. Warmest regards Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE Gee more Daniel Bale dank ie dat EU you handled ban avail. EU her online begin on my families nd te vows en EU is sewer you handled gain my Bale help. Griet Magda Begeman Sent from my BlackBerry? ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:52:35 +0200 From: "Darrell" Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Remarks on KAB file To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original It would appear that the documents were for some reason transferred to a new folder (cover). Possibly the estate was re-opened. I found the following: DEPOT KAB SOURCE MOOC TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 6/9/10822 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 91455 PART 1 DESCRIPTION MEINTJIES, ERNEST FREDERICK. ESTATE PAPERS. STARTING 19440000 ENDING 19440000 Regards Darrell Ackermann Brackenfell ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 237 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Remark on KAB file? (Keith Meintjes) > 2. Re: Remark on KAB file? (John Wynne) > 3. Re: Remark on KAB file? (Keith Meintjes) > 4. AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE (Daniel Jacobs) > 5. Re: Remark on KAB file? (Steve Hayes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:46:34 -0400 > From: "Keith Meintjes" > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Remark on KAB file? > To: "SA List" > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Can anyone guess what this remark means? > > DEPOT KAB > SOURCE MOOC > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 6/9/3380 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 19609 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION MEINTJES, ERNEST FREDERICK. ESTATE PAPERS. > STARTING 00000000 > ENDING 00000000 > REMARKS RE-OPENED TO COVER 91455. > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 05:01:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Andre Groenewald Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] de Beer family To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Is there anyone who can tell me more about this family: c7d8e1Diederick Marthinus Arnoldus de Beer (* 24 .6 1827 = 11 November 1827) x Clasena Helena Jacoba Geyer (*28.06.1829 =27.12.1829 ? 27.06.1859) in 1845. Samuel Zacharias de Beer (*27.10.1846 = 27.12.1846 ?24.08.1907) x? 3 April 1871? at Hopetown? Petronella Jacoba Bronkhorst (*20.11.1851 = 12.4.1852 ?19.1.1897). Their son Samuel Zacharias de Beer (*27.09.1874 ? 2.06.1949) x? c1901 with Elsie Jacoba Jacomina Carolina Benson (*27.08.1880 = Mei 1880 te Kimberley ? 22.12.1940)[d of Willem Joseph * 23.12.1847 = Richmond 30.1.1848 x Hopetown 24.9.1877 with Comelia Johanna VENTER * 1861? I want more info with regard to siblings and wider family connections? Regards, Andre Rev Dr AJ Groenewald East Calder Livingston --- On Mon, 8/29/11, Emjay-Vista wrote: From: Emjay-Vista Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE To: mbegeman@absamail.co.za, south-africa@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 7:32 AM Hullo Magda I have just had the greatest laugh so far today while I was trying to decipher your email below. No offence intended! The first thought was to ask you "Gooie Griet Magda, what has your BlackBerry been smoking??" This got me started and I have just had a good hearty laugh. Thank you for that and I do know you corrected it in a follow up email, but sometimes strange things like this make the day better. Have a good one yourself. Warmest regards Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE Gee more Daniel Bale dank ie dat EU you handled ban avail. EU her online begin on my families nd te vows en EU is sewer you handled gain my Bale help. Griet Magda Begeman Sent from my BlackBerry? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:23:00 +0200 From: "Brian &Fay Lea" Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Rossouw register To: , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" No but the following: Descendants of Joseph Enslin 1 Joseph Enslin b: 17 February 1956 .. +Neeltjie Maria Rossouw b: 06 February 1955 Descendants of Matthys Johannes Rossouw 1 Matthys Johannes Rossouw b: 03 March 1882 d: 18 February 1964 in Potgietersrus Swartwater .. +Willem Jacobus (mansnaam) Britz b: 10 October 1892 d: 06 October 1968 in Potgietersrus Swartwater . 2 Matthys Johannes Rossouw . 2 Catharina Rossouw ..... +Carl ENSLIN . 2 Hester Engela Marchareta Rossouw b: 22 June 1914 d: 23 February 1987 ..... +Louis van Wyk . -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:52:44 +0200 From: "Hetta Scholtz" Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Rossouw register To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original And I have a photo of a photo of M J Rossouw and his wife Willie. And his ancestors. He is my grandfather's brother. If anybody needs more info? Hetta Scholtz, Rooihuiskraal -----Original Message----- From: Brian &Fay Lea Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:23 PM To: shayes@dunelm.org.uk ; south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Rossouw register No but the following: Descendants of Joseph Enslin 1 Joseph Enslin b: 17 February 1956 .. +Neeltjie Maria Rossouw b: 06 February 1955 Descendants of Matthys Johannes Rossouw 1 Matthys Johannes Rossouw b: 03 March 1882 d: 18 February 1964 in Potgietersrus Swartwater .. +Willem Jacobus (mansnaam) Britz b: 10 October 1892 d: 06 October 1968 in Potgietersrus Swartwater . 2 Matthys Johannes Rossouw . 2 Catharina Rossouw ..... +Carl ENSLIN . 2 Hester Engela Marchareta Rossouw b: 22 June 1914 d: 23 February 1987 ..... +Louis van Wyk . -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3864 - Release Date: 08/28/11 ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:58:57 -0400 From: "Keith Meintjes" Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ancestry.com travel records To: "SA List" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ancestry.com has free access to their travel and immigration records for the next week http://www.ancestry.com/s48771/t23428/ancestry.com/immigration_travel Keith ------------------------------ To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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Darrell, Thank you very much. My Ernest Frederick died in 1928. He was the father of the artist, author, and historian, Johannes Meintjes. Maybe this is someone different, maybe it is the same person. For Johannes, see: http://www.johannes-meintjes.co.za/ A true genius. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:53:22 AM EDT From: "Darrell" <dackmann@iafrica.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Remarks on KAB file It would appear that the documents were for some reason transferred to a new folder (cover). Possibly the estate was re-opened. I found the following: DEPOT KAB SOURCE MOOC TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 6/9/10822 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 91455 PART 1 DESCRIPTION MEINTJIES, ERNEST FREDERICK. ESTATE PAPERS. STARTING 19440000 ENDING 19440000 Regards Darrell Ackermann Brackenfell ----- Original Message ----- From: <south-africa-request@rootsweb.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 237 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Remark on KAB file? (Keith Meintjes) > 2. Re: Remark on KAB file? (John Wynne) > 3. Re: Remark on KAB file? (Keith Meintjes) > 4. AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE (Daniel Jacobs) > 5. Re: Remark on KAB file? (Steve Hayes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:46:34 -0400 > From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Remark on KAB file? > To: "SA List" <SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <887PHbPtI7616S02.1314546394@web02.cms.usa.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Can anyone guess what this remark means? > > DEPOT KAB > SOURCE MOOC > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 6/9/3380 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 19609 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION MEINTJES, ERNEST FREDERICK. ESTATE PAPERS. > STARTING 00000000 > ENDING 00000000 > REMARKS RE-OPENED TO COVER 91455. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Bart, An ectopic pregnancy is in the fallopian tube and not as normal in the womb. I had one and the foetus was too tiny to be considered a child. Mary Shearar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Simon" <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> To: "RW RSA" <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 12:26 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] I have to ask the Question [!!!] > Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! > > If a woman dies at child birth with the child from a 'Ruptured ectopic', > say > in 1940 in Rhodesia, in a main hospital there, and I clearly do not know > if > the child was actually born or removed from the mother, what happens to > the > child or foetus ?. I have only the grave of the mother, so I suppose the > mother and child are buried together, the child still inside the mother ?. > Do you think that would be the case ?. > > Yours Sincerely, > Sir Ken Markham, K.C.B. (95) > ===================================== > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.901 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3866 - Release Date: 08/29/11 11:34:00

Ancestry.com has free access to their travel and immigration records for the next week http://www.ancestry.com/s48771/t23428/ancestry.com/immigration_travel Keith

And I have a photo of a photo of M J Rossouw and his wife Willie. And his ancestors. He is my grandfather's brother. If anybody needs more info? Hetta Scholtz, Rooihuiskraal -----Original Message----- From: Brian & Fay Lea Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:23 PM To: shayes@dunelm.org.uk ; south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Rossouw register No but the following: Descendants of Joseph Enslin 1 Joseph Enslin b: 17 February 1956 .. +Neeltjie Maria Rossouw b: 06 February 1955 Descendants of Matthys Johannes Rossouw 1 Matthys Johannes Rossouw b: 03 March 1882 d: 18 February 1964 in Potgietersrus Swartwater .. +Willem Jacobus (mansnaam) Britz b: 10 October 1892 d: 06 October 1968 in Potgietersrus Swartwater . 2 Matthys Johannes Rossouw . 2 Catharina Rossouw ..... +Carl ENSLIN . 2 Hester Engela Marchareta Rossouw b: 22 June 1914 d: 23 February 1987 ..... +Louis van Wyk . -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3864 - Release Date: 08/28/11

No but the following: Descendants of Joseph Enslin 1 Joseph Enslin b: 17 February 1956 .. +Neeltjie Maria Rossouw b: 06 February 1955 Descendants of Matthys Johannes Rossouw 1 Matthys Johannes Rossouw b: 03 March 1882 d: 18 February 1964 in Potgietersrus Swartwater .. +Willem Jacobus (mansnaam) Britz b: 10 October 1892 d: 06 October 1968 in Potgietersrus Swartwater . 2 Matthys Johannes Rossouw . 2 Catharina Rossouw ..... +Carl ENSLIN . 2 Hester Engela Marchareta Rossouw b: 22 June 1914 d: 23 February 1987 ..... +Louis van Wyk . -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It would appear that the documents were for some reason transferred to a new folder (cover). Possibly the estate was re-opened. I found the following: DEPOT KAB SOURCE MOOC TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 6/9/10822 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 91455 PART 1 DESCRIPTION MEINTJIES, ERNEST FREDERICK. ESTATE PAPERS. STARTING 19440000 ENDING 19440000 Regards Darrell Ackermann Brackenfell ----- Original Message ----- From: <south-africa-request@rootsweb.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 237 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Remark on KAB file? (Keith Meintjes) > 2. Re: Remark on KAB file? (John Wynne) > 3. Re: Remark on KAB file? (Keith Meintjes) > 4. AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE (Daniel Jacobs) > 5. Re: Remark on KAB file? (Steve Hayes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:46:34 -0400 > From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Remark on KAB file? > To: "SA List" <SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <887PHbPtI7616S02.1314546394@web02.cms.usa.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Can anyone guess what this remark means? > > DEPOT KAB > SOURCE MOOC > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 6/9/3380 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 19609 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION MEINTJES, ERNEST FREDERICK. ESTATE PAPERS. > STARTING 00000000 > ENDING 00000000 > REMARKS RE-OPENED TO COVER 91455. >

Hullo Magda I have just had the greatest laugh so far today while I was trying to decipher your email below. No offence intended! The first thought was to ask you "Gooie Griet Magda, what has your BlackBerry been smoking??" This got me started and I have just had a good hearty laugh. Thank you for that and I do know you corrected it in a follow up email, but sometimes strange things like this make the day better. Have a good one yourself. Warmest regards Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: <mbegeman@absamail.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE Gee more Daniel Bale dank ie dat EU you handled ban avail. EU her online begin on my families nd te vows en EU is sewer you handled gain my Bale help. Griet Magda Begeman Sent from my BlackBerry®

On 29 Aug 2011 at 9:07, Brian & Fay Lea wrote: > No Connection - but I have Jacobus Petrus Johannes & his wife Cornelia > Frederika Cilliers and their ancestors and descendants in my Rossouw family > tree. Did any of your ROSSOUW family George Jean August Enslin (1875-1940)? -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

No Connection - but I have Jacobus Petrus Johannes & his wife Cornelia Frederika Cilliers and their ancestors and descendants in my Rossouw family tree. Cheers Fay -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Hendric Sent: 29 August 2011 07:39 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Rossouw register Hi all Does anybody maybe have a connection or link to this Rossouw family below? Mijn VaDer Jacobes Petrüs Johannis Rossouw is ge boren de 3 october 1853 overlede de 12 Janiari 19 7. Mijn Moedr CorneJa Fredrie Ka Rossouw Geboren Cilliers geboren de 2..ste April 1857.(? - gat in papier) Sisters en broeders 1. Johanna Aletta Cla Z ..a (dalk is dit Clazina) Rs (staan vir Rossouw) is geboren de 29 Jüly 1878 overlede de 1 februari 1880.(- 2 jr oud ) 2.. Beatrix Magrieta Rs is geboren de 23 ste November 1879 geboren op Waterval dist BoüVort Wes. (getroud met LJC Cloete - oorlede: 30 Sept 1945) 3.. CorneJa FredrieKa Rs is geboren de 22 April 1882 geboren te Patrÿs fontÿn dist Carnarfon. 4.. HendrieKa Jacoba Johanna Rs is geboren de 22ste November 1883 geboren te Scorpioens drif dist Carnarvon. 5.. Pieter Josia Rs is geboren de 2de Maart 1886 beboren te Opzoek dist Ladÿsmith. 6.. Elie za beth Johanna Rs is geboren de 14 de September 1888 Overlede de 28ste September 1888. ( 2 weke oud ) 7.. Hendrik Johannis Rs is geboren de 29ste Jüni 1890 geboren opzoek Ladÿsmith. 8.. Jacobes Petrus Johannis Rs is geboren de 12 (? onduidelik)November 1892 overlede de .. December 1893. (1 jaar oud) 9.. Gabr.. Johannis Rs is geboren de 11 Febrieari 1896 geboren te Opzoek dist Ladÿsmith. Mijn vader J P J Rossoüw is geboren te Worcester Overleden te Hüisrevier dist Calitzdorp. Mijn moeder CF Rossoüw geboren Ciliiers is geboren te Büffelsfalÿ dist Ladÿsmith. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Remark on KAB file? > On 28 Aug 2011 at 11:46, Keith Meintjes wrote: > >> Can anyone guess what this remark means? >> >> DEPOT KAB >> SOURCE MOOC >> TYPE LEER >> VOLUME_NO 6/9/3380 >> SYSTEM 01 >> REFERENCE 19609 >> PART 1 >> DESCRIPTION MEINTJES, ERNEST FREDERICK. ESTATE PAPERS. >> STARTING 00000000 >> ENDING 00000000 >> REMARKS RE-OPENED TO COVER 91455. > > You'd need to look at 91455 to be sure. > > > > -- > Steve Hayes > E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk > Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) > Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com > Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 > Fax: 086-548-2525 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Daniel. Thank you for allowing me to download your book. I am new to finding my family and I will find it helpful. Kind Regards Magda Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Jacobs <danielmalanjacobs@gmail.com> Sender: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:35:27 To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Cc: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE Dear Friends If you understand Afrikaans you may be interested in downloading the 2010 version of my Genealogical Research Manual for beginners for free at http://www.gendata.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13&Itemid=28 The contents are: *HOOFSTUK 1* *Inleiding -13* *HOOFSTUK 2* *Waarom doen ons navorsing? – 17* *HOOFSTUK 3* *Waar begin ons? – 22* *HOOFSTUK 4* *Familiewapens – 24* *HOOFSTUK 5* *Insameling en ordening van inligting en bronneverwysings - 26* A Rekordhouding mbt bronne geraadpleeg en bronneverwysings - 26 B Hulpmiddels vir die insameling en ordening van genealogiese inligting - 31 a Inleiding -31 b Ordening van dokumente -31 c Rekenaar - 32 i Inleiding - 32 ii As ek nie 'n rekenaar het nie, moet ek een koop? - 33 ii Rekenaarprogramme - 34 iii Die internet? - 34 iv E-pos - 34 v Verkryging van toegang tot die internet en gebruik van e-pos - 35 1 Modems en Internet Explorer - 35 2 Diensverskaffers - 35 3 E-pos - 35 4 Webtuistes - 35 vi Opspoor van webtuistes wat vir genealogiese navorsing van belang is - 36 1 Web-adresse - 36 2 Soekenjins - 37 3 Webtuistes met baie skakels na ander webtuistes - 37 i Cyndi's List - 38 ii GGSA 38 iii Ancestry24 - 38 iv Gendata - 38 v South African Genealogy - 38 vi World Wide Web Virtual Library - 38 vii Museum webtuistes -39 d Telefoon, pen en papier - 39 e Standaard vorms - 39 f Bandopnemers - 40 g Digitale Kameras - 40 h Internet Cafe - 41 C Noukeurige transkripsie van dokumente en lees van ou handskrifte – 41 *HOOFSTUK 6* *Bronne en hulle bergplekke - 44* A Inleiding - 44 B Bewaarplekke vir genealogiese bronne - 44 a Kaapstad en omgewing - 46 i Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 46 ii Meesterskantoor - 47 iii Akteskantoor en Landmeter-Generaal - 47 Akteskantoor - 47 Landmeter-Generaal - 48 iv NGK Argief Stellenbosch - 48 v Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Kaapstad - 48 vi Instituut vir Historiese Navorsing UWK - 49 vii LDS Sentrums - 49 Inleiding - 49 Loevenstein-sentrum - 49 Meadowridge-sentrum - 50 viii Genealogiese Instituut van Suid-Afrika (GISA) - 50 ix Hugenote Gedenkmuseum, Franschhoek - 50 x Drakenstein Heemkring, Paarl - 51 xi Stellenbosse Heemkring - 51 b Pretoria en omgewing - 51 i Nasionale Argief Pretoria - 51 ii Meesterskantoor - 53 iii Akteskantoor en Landmeter-Generaal - 53 iv NGK Argief - 54 v Nasionale Biblioteek, Suid-Afrika, Pretoria - 54 vi LDS Sentrums - 54 Olympus-Landbouhoewes - 54 vii Hervormde kerk - 55 viii Navorsingsentrum by Voortrekkermonument - 55 c Johannesburg en omgewing - 56 i Akteskantoor - 56 ii LDS Sentrums - 57 a Benoni - 57 b Springs - 57 c Vereeniging - 57 d Parktown - 57 e Roodepoort - 57 D Transvaalse Platteland - 58 a Rustenburg - 58 b Witbank - 58 e Bloemfontein en omgewing - 58 i Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 58 i Meesterskantoor - 59 iii Akteskantoor en Landmeter-Generaal - 59 Akteskantoor - 59 Landmeter-Generaal - 59 iv NGK Argief - 59 v Biblioteek van die Universiteit van die Vrystaat - 60 vi Stadsbiblioteek van Bloemfontein - 61 vii LDS Sentrums - 61 viii Oorlogsmuseum van die Boererepublieke - 61 F Pietermaritzburg en omgewing - 62 i Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 62 ii Durban Argivale Depot - 62 iii Meesterskantoor - 63 Pietermaritzburg - 63 Durban - 63 iiii Akteskantoor en Landmeter-Generaal - 63 Akteskantoor - 64 Landmeter-Generaal - 64 v NGK Argief - 64 vi Natal Society Library - 65 vii LDS Sentrum, Pietermaritzburg - 66 f Durban en omgewing - 66 i Killie Campbell Africana Library - 66 ii LDS Sentrums - 66 a Durban - 66 b Hillcrest - 66 g Oos-Kaap - 67 i Meesterkantoor, Grahamstad - 67 ii Akteskantoor, King William's Town - 67 iii Akteskantoor, Umtata - 67 iv LDS Sentrums - 68 a Port Elizabeth - 68 b Oos-London - 68 v Cory Biblioteek - 68 vi Albany Museum - 69 vii Amathole Museum, King Williams Town - 69 h Noord-Kaap - 70 i Meesterskantoor - 70 ii Akteskantoor, Kimberley - 70 iii Akteskantoor, Vryburg - 70 iv Africana Biblioteek - 71 i Potchefstroom en omgewing - 71 Argief van die Gereformeerde Kerk - 71 j Namibië - 72 i Nasionale Argief, Namibië - 72 ii Biblioteke - 72 iii Meesterskantoor - 72 iv Akteskantoor - 72 vi NGK Argief - 73 k Zimbabwe - 73 Nasionale Argief, Zimbabwe 73 l Die internet - 73 m Mense met mondelinge oorlewering, familie-dokumente ens - 74 C In watter volgorde moet bronne geraadpleeg word? – 74 *HOOFSTUK 7* *BRONNE: Familie en navorsers met dieselfde belangstellingsvelde - 75* A Inleiding - 75 B Vindmiddels - 75 a Briewe skryf en rondbel - 75 b Skrywers van geslagsregisters - 76 c Die internet - 76 i Poslyste - 76 1 SA Genealogie en Buitenposten - 76 2 Engelse Rootsweb-lyste - 77 3 Genealogycom se Suid-Afrika-lys - 77 4 Rootsweb se lys vir Zimbabwe - 77 ii Message Boards - 78 iii Lyste van navorsers - 78 iv Telefoonboeke - 78 v Facebook - 78 C Mense as bronne van inligting - 78 a Inleiding - 78 b Voer van onderhoude - 79 D Genealogiese Verenigings - 80 E Privaatnavorsers - 81 a Pretoria - 81 b Bloemfontein - 81 c Kaapstad - 81 e Grahamstad - 81 f Kimberley - 82 g Zimbabwe – 82 *Hoofstuk 8* *Bronne: Gepubliseerde bronne - 83* A Inleiding - 83 B Geslagsregisters - 83 a Inleiding - 83 b Vindmiddels - 83 i Algemene Vindmiddels - 83 ii Vindmiddels by spesifieke bewaarplekke - 84 1 GISA - 84 Bronne in GISA se biblioteek - 84 GISA se GEDCOM -argiewe - 84 2 Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 84 3 Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Kaapstad - 84 4 Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 85 5 Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Pretoria - 85 6 Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 85 7 Natal Society Library - 85 8 Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 85 9 Ander Suid-Afrikaanse biblioteke - 86 10 Publikasies wat privaat uitgegee is - 86 11 Omvattende ongepubliseerde geslagsregisters - 86 12 Webtuistes van verskillende families - 86 c Bronne met inligting oor meer as een familie - 87 i Inleiding - 87 ii Boeke - 87 iii Tydskrifte - 88 iv Digitale Publikasies - 89 a e-SAGI - 89 b Familia Omnibus - 89 v Die Internet - 89 C Algemeen historiese werke - 90 a Vindmiddels - 90 b Bespreking van 'n aantal algemeen historiese publikasies - 90 c Boeke met biografiese inligting - 91 D Atlasse - 92 E Bronnepublikasies - 92 a Vindmiddels - 92 b Bespreking van 'n aantal bronnepublikasies - 92 F Koerante - 94 a Inleiding - 94 b Vindmiddels - 95 c Bewaarplekke - 95 i Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Kaapstad - 95 ii Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Pretoria - 96 iii Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 96 iv Albany Museum - 96 v Die internet - 96 G Adresboeke en soortgelyke publikasies - 97 a Inleiding - 97 b Algemene Adresboeke - 97 i Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 97 ii Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Kaapstad - 97 iii Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 98 iv Stadsbiblioteek van Bloemfontein - 98 v Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 98 vi Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Pretoria - 99 vii Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 99 c Kerkjaarboeke - 100 H Foto’s en ander beeldmateriaal - 100 I E-boeke - 102 a Inleiding - 102 b Gratis e-boeke - 102 c E-boeke te koop -103 *Hoofstuk 9* *Bronne: Vindmiddels op ongepubliseerde staatsbronne - 104* A Inleiding - 104 B Vindmiddels - 104 a Inleiding - 104 b Bespreking van vindmiddels - 104 i Lyste van argivalia - 104 ii Inventarisse - 105 1 Inleiding - 105 2 Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 105 3 Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 106 4 Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 106 5 Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 106 iii Indekskaartjies - 106 1 Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 106 2 Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 106 3 Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 106 iv NAAIRS - Staatsargiefdiens se Rekenaardatabasis - 107 1 Inleiding - 107 2 Soektogte op NAAIRS mbv die internet - 107 a Verskillende databasisse - 107 b Beskrywing van inligting op NAAIRS-verwysing - 108 c Hoe doen 'n mens 'n soektog? - 108 d Afbakening van periode waarin bron geskep is - 109 e Voorbeeld van 'n soektog - 109 f Nog 'n paar voorstelle - 109 v Indekse van boedels in Meesterskantoor, Kaapstad - 110 vi Family History Library Catalog - 110 *HOOFSTUK 10* *Bronne: Bronne wat sterfte-inligting bevat en vindmiddels daarop 111* A Inleiding - 111 B Boedeldokumente - 111 a Inleiding - 111 b Tipes boedeldokumente - 111 i Sterfkennis - 111 ii Testament - 114 iii Likwidasie- en Distribusie-rekening - 114 iv Inventarisse en Waardasies - 115 v Vendusierol - 115 vi Insolvente boedels - 115 vii Sterfteregisters - 115 viii Diverse - 116 c Bewaarplekke van boedeldokumente en vindmiddels daarop - 116 i Inleiding - 116 ii Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 116 1 Wes-Kaap - 117 a Sterfkennis en reeks gekonsolideerde boedeldokumente - 117 i Inleiding - 117 ii Naairs en NAAIRS Indekse - 117 iii Handgeskrewe indekse - 118 iv CDNI-indekse - 118 b Sterfteregisters 1758-1833 - 118 c Testamente 119 i Testamente van Raad van Justisie 1686-1793 - 119 ii Meester van die Hooggeregshof se Testamente - 119 1 Inleiding - 119 2 1689-1875 - 119 3 1876-1912 - 119 4 1913-1916 - 120 5 1917 -1958 - 120 d Likwidasie- en Distribusierekeninge - 120 e Inventarisse en Waardasies - 121 f Vendusierolle -121 g Insolvente boedels - 121 h Duplikate van Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief se boedeldokumente - 121 LDS-duplikate - 121 Duplikate by GISA - 121 2 Noord-Kaap - 122 3 Oos-Kaap - 122 iii Meesterskantoor, Kaapstad - 122 iv Meesterskantoor, Kimberley - 122 v Meesterskantoor, Grahamstad - 122 vi GISA op Stellenbosch - 123 vii Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 123 1 Boedels van afgestorwenes - 123 a Inleiding - 123 b NAAIRS en NAAIRS-indekse - 123 2 Insolvente boedels - 125 3 Duplikate van Nasionale Argief, Pretoria se boedeldokumente - 125 Mikroflms by Gautengse Provinsiale Argief - 125 LDS-duplikate - 125 4 Meesterkantoor indekse in Nasionale Argief, Pretoria -125 viii Meesterskantoor, Pretoria - 126 ix Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 127 1 Boedels van afgestorwenes - 127 2 Insolvente boedels - 128 3 Duplikate: Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief se boedeldokumente - 128 LDS-duplikate - 128 Duplikate by GISA - 128 x Meesterskantoor, Bloemfontein - 128 xi Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 128 1 Boedels van afgestorwenes - 128 2 Insolvente boedels - 129 3 Duplikate van Provinsiale Argief, PMB se boedeldokumente - 129 LDS-duplikate - 129 Duplikate by GISA 129 xii Meesterskantoor, Pietermaritzburg - 129 xiii LDS-sentrums - 129 xiv Namibië - 130 xv Zimbabwe - 130 C Dokumente van die Registrateur van Geboortes, Huwelike en Sterfgevalle - 131 a Inleiding - 131 b Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 132 c Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 132 d Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 132 e Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 133 D Begraafplaas Rekords - 133 a Inleiding - 133 b Wes en Suid-Kaap - 134 Stellenbosch - 134 Paarl - 134 c Oos-Kaap - 135 Oos-Kaap tak van GGSA - 135 Port Elizabeth Stadsbiblioteek - 135 Amathola Museum in King William's Town - 135 Albany Museum, Grahamstad - 136 d Vrystaat - 136 e Natal - 136 f Transvaal - 136 E Inligting oor gesneuwelde soldate – 137 *HOOFSTUK 11* *Bronne: Diverse onderwerpe - 138* A Inleiding - 138 Grondbesit - 138 B Kaapprovinsie - 140 a Immigrasie Rekords en Passasierslyste - 140 i Inleiding - 140 ii Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 140 iii Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Kaapstad - 140 iv Internetbronne - 140 b Bevolking Statistiek en Inligting - 141 c Bronne vir navorsing oor grondbesit - 142 i Inleiding - 142 ii Eiendomsreg (Freeholds) 1657 - 1717 en later - 142 iii Leningplase 1703 - 1813 - 143 iv Ewigdurende Erfpagplase 1813+ - 144 C Transvaal - 145 a Immigrasie Rekords - 145 b Bevolking Statistiek en Inligting - 145 c Bronne vir navorsing oor grondbesit - 145 D Vrystaat - 146 a Immigrasie Rekords - 146 b Bevolking Statistiek en Inligting - 146 c Bronne vir navorsing oor grondbesit - 146 E Natal - 147 a Immigrasie Rekords en Passasierslyste - 147 b Bevolking Statistiek en Inligting - 147 c Bronne vir navorsing oor grondbesit - 147 F Diverse Bewaarplekke - 148 G LDS Kerk se afskrifte – 148 *HOOFSTUK 12* *Bronne: Ongepubliseerde kerkrekords en staatsdokumente wat daarby aansluit - 149* A Inleiding - 149 B Navorsingswaarde van verskillende dokumente - 149 a Doopseel - 149 b Huweliksertifikaat - 151 c Lidmaatsertifikaat - 151 C Verskillende Kerke - 151 a Lutherse Kerk - 151 b NG Kerk - 151 i Inleiding - 151 ii Kaapse NGK - 152 1 Inleiding - 152 2 Verskillende oorspronklike bronne - 152 a Doopseels - 152 i Ringsafskrifte en indeks daarop - 152 ii Indekse op gemeente registers - 153 iii Die waarde van doopseels as navorsingsbron - 153 b Huweliksregisters - 154 c Lidmaatregisters - 155 3 Afskrifte -156 4 Internetbronne - 156 iii Transvaalse NGK - 156 iv Vrystaatse NGK - 157 v Natalse NGK - 157 vi Namibiese NGK - 158 c Gereformeerde Kerk - 158 d Nederduits Hervormde Kerk - 158 e Afrikaners in Angola en Argentinië - 159 D Nie-kerklike Huweliksdokumente - 159 a Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 159 i Huwelikshofnotules van landdroskantore - 160 ii Indeks-kaartjies op “Marriage Licences” - 160 b Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 160 c Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 161 d Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 161 e Registrateur van Geboortes, Huwelike en Sterfgevalle- 161 *HOOFSTUK 13* *Militêre en Buitelandse Navorsing - 162* A Militêre Navorsing - 162 a Inleiding - 162 b Eerste en Tweede Anglo-Boereoorlog - 162 c Eerste en Tweede Werêld Oorlog - 162 B Buitelandse navorsing - 163 a Inleiding - 163 b Nederland - 165 c Verenigde Koninkryk en Ierland - 165 d Duitsland - 167 e Frankryk – 167 *HOOFSTUK 14* *Gevallestudie - 168* A Belangrikheid van voldoende bewyse om afleidings te ondersteun - 168 B Gevallestudie – 171 *HOOFSTUK 15* *Navorsing mbt diverse Suid-Afrikaanse bevolkingsgroepe - 177* A Inleiding - 177 B Navorsing oor Slawe - 177 C Navorsing oor Kleurling-families - 177 D Navorsing oor Engelse families - 178 a Inleiding - 178 b Engelse Kerke - 178 Inleiding - 178 Church of England in South Africa - 179 Church of the Province of South Africa - 179 Katolieke Kerk - 180 Kind regards Daniel Jacobs www.gendata.co.za Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Griet Magda Begeman Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Jacobs <danielmalanjacobs@gmail.com> Sender: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:35:27 To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Cc: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE Dear Friends If you understand Afrikaans you may be interested in downloading the 2010 version of my Genealogical Research Manual for beginners for free at http://www.gendata.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13&Itemid=28 The contents are: *HOOFSTUK 1* *Inleiding -13* *HOOFSTUK 2* *Waarom doen ons navorsing? – 17* *HOOFSTUK 3* *Waar begin ons? – 22* *HOOFSTUK 4* *Familiewapens – 24* *HOOFSTUK 5* *Insameling en ordening van inligting en bronneverwysings - 26* A Rekordhouding mbt bronne geraadpleeg en bronneverwysings - 26 B Hulpmiddels vir die insameling en ordening van genealogiese inligting - 31 a Inleiding -31 b Ordening van dokumente -31 c Rekenaar - 32 i Inleiding - 32 ii As ek nie 'n rekenaar het nie, moet ek een koop? - 33 ii Rekenaarprogramme - 34 iii Die internet? - 34 iv E-pos - 34 v Verkryging van toegang tot die internet en gebruik van e-pos - 35 1 Modems en Internet Explorer - 35 2 Diensverskaffers - 35 3 E-pos - 35 4 Webtuistes - 35 vi Opspoor van webtuistes wat vir genealogiese navorsing van belang is - 36 1 Web-adresse - 36 2 Soekenjins - 37 3 Webtuistes met baie skakels na ander webtuistes - 37 i Cyndi's List - 38 ii GGSA 38 iii Ancestry24 - 38 iv Gendata - 38 v South African Genealogy - 38 vi World Wide Web Virtual Library - 38 vii Museum webtuistes -39 d Telefoon, pen en papier - 39 e Standaard vorms - 39 f Bandopnemers - 40 g Digitale Kameras - 40 h Internet Cafe - 41 C Noukeurige transkripsie van dokumente en lees van ou handskrifte – 41 *HOOFSTUK 6* *Bronne en hulle bergplekke - 44* A Inleiding - 44 B Bewaarplekke vir genealogiese bronne - 44 a Kaapstad en omgewing - 46 i Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 46 ii Meesterskantoor - 47 iii Akteskantoor en Landmeter-Generaal - 47 Akteskantoor - 47 Landmeter-Generaal - 48 iv NGK Argief Stellenbosch - 48 v Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Kaapstad - 48 vi Instituut vir Historiese Navorsing UWK - 49 vii LDS Sentrums - 49 Inleiding - 49 Loevenstein-sentrum - 49 Meadowridge-sentrum - 50 viii Genealogiese Instituut van Suid-Afrika (GISA) - 50 ix Hugenote Gedenkmuseum, Franschhoek - 50 x Drakenstein Heemkring, Paarl - 51 xi Stellenbosse Heemkring - 51 b Pretoria en omgewing - 51 i Nasionale Argief Pretoria - 51 ii Meesterskantoor - 53 iii Akteskantoor en Landmeter-Generaal - 53 iv NGK Argief - 54 v Nasionale Biblioteek, Suid-Afrika, Pretoria - 54 vi LDS Sentrums - 54 Olympus-Landbouhoewes - 54 vii Hervormde kerk - 55 viii Navorsingsentrum by Voortrekkermonument - 55 c Johannesburg en omgewing - 56 i Akteskantoor - 56 ii LDS Sentrums - 57 a Benoni - 57 b Springs - 57 c Vereeniging - 57 d Parktown - 57 e Roodepoort - 57 D Transvaalse Platteland - 58 a Rustenburg - 58 b Witbank - 58 e Bloemfontein en omgewing - 58 i Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 58 i Meesterskantoor - 59 iii Akteskantoor en Landmeter-Generaal - 59 Akteskantoor - 59 Landmeter-Generaal - 59 iv NGK Argief - 59 v Biblioteek van die Universiteit van die Vrystaat - 60 vi Stadsbiblioteek van Bloemfontein - 61 vii LDS Sentrums - 61 viii Oorlogsmuseum van die Boererepublieke - 61 F Pietermaritzburg en omgewing - 62 i Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 62 ii Durban Argivale Depot - 62 iii Meesterskantoor - 63 Pietermaritzburg - 63 Durban - 63 iiii Akteskantoor en Landmeter-Generaal - 63 Akteskantoor - 64 Landmeter-Generaal - 64 v NGK Argief - 64 vi Natal Society Library - 65 vii LDS Sentrum, Pietermaritzburg - 66 f Durban en omgewing - 66 i Killie Campbell Africana Library - 66 ii LDS Sentrums - 66 a Durban - 66 b Hillcrest - 66 g Oos-Kaap - 67 i Meesterkantoor, Grahamstad - 67 ii Akteskantoor, King William's Town - 67 iii Akteskantoor, Umtata - 67 iv LDS Sentrums - 68 a Port Elizabeth - 68 b Oos-London - 68 v Cory Biblioteek - 68 vi Albany Museum - 69 vii Amathole Museum, King Williams Town - 69 h Noord-Kaap - 70 i Meesterskantoor - 70 ii Akteskantoor, Kimberley - 70 iii Akteskantoor, Vryburg - 70 iv Africana Biblioteek - 71 i Potchefstroom en omgewing - 71 Argief van die Gereformeerde Kerk - 71 j Namibië - 72 i Nasionale Argief, Namibië - 72 ii Biblioteke - 72 iii Meesterskantoor - 72 iv Akteskantoor - 72 vi NGK Argief - 73 k Zimbabwe - 73 Nasionale Argief, Zimbabwe 73 l Die internet - 73 m Mense met mondelinge oorlewering, familie-dokumente ens - 74 C In watter volgorde moet bronne geraadpleeg word? – 74 *HOOFSTUK 7* *BRONNE: Familie en navorsers met dieselfde belangstellingsvelde - 75* A Inleiding - 75 B Vindmiddels - 75 a Briewe skryf en rondbel - 75 b Skrywers van geslagsregisters - 76 c Die internet - 76 i Poslyste - 76 1 SA Genealogie en Buitenposten - 76 2 Engelse Rootsweb-lyste - 77 3 Genealogycom se Suid-Afrika-lys - 77 4 Rootsweb se lys vir Zimbabwe - 77 ii Message Boards - 78 iii Lyste van navorsers - 78 iv Telefoonboeke - 78 v Facebook - 78 C Mense as bronne van inligting - 78 a Inleiding - 78 b Voer van onderhoude - 79 D Genealogiese Verenigings - 80 E Privaatnavorsers - 81 a Pretoria - 81 b Bloemfontein - 81 c Kaapstad - 81 e Grahamstad - 81 f Kimberley - 82 g Zimbabwe – 82 *Hoofstuk 8* *Bronne: Gepubliseerde bronne - 83* A Inleiding - 83 B Geslagsregisters - 83 a Inleiding - 83 b Vindmiddels - 83 i Algemene Vindmiddels - 83 ii Vindmiddels by spesifieke bewaarplekke - 84 1 GISA - 84 Bronne in GISA se biblioteek - 84 GISA se GEDCOM -argiewe - 84 2 Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 84 3 Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Kaapstad - 84 4 Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 85 5 Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Pretoria - 85 6 Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 85 7 Natal Society Library - 85 8 Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 85 9 Ander Suid-Afrikaanse biblioteke - 86 10 Publikasies wat privaat uitgegee is - 86 11 Omvattende ongepubliseerde geslagsregisters - 86 12 Webtuistes van verskillende families - 86 c Bronne met inligting oor meer as een familie - 87 i Inleiding - 87 ii Boeke - 87 iii Tydskrifte - 88 iv Digitale Publikasies - 89 a e-SAGI - 89 b Familia Omnibus - 89 v Die Internet - 89 C Algemeen historiese werke - 90 a Vindmiddels - 90 b Bespreking van 'n aantal algemeen historiese publikasies - 90 c Boeke met biografiese inligting - 91 D Atlasse - 92 E Bronnepublikasies - 92 a Vindmiddels - 92 b Bespreking van 'n aantal bronnepublikasies - 92 F Koerante - 94 a Inleiding - 94 b Vindmiddels - 95 c Bewaarplekke - 95 i Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Kaapstad - 95 ii Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Pretoria - 96 iii Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 96 iv Albany Museum - 96 v Die internet - 96 G Adresboeke en soortgelyke publikasies - 97 a Inleiding - 97 b Algemene Adresboeke - 97 i Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 97 ii Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Kaapstad - 97 iii Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 98 iv Stadsbiblioteek van Bloemfontein - 98 v Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 98 vi Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Pretoria - 99 vii Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 99 c Kerkjaarboeke - 100 H Foto’s en ander beeldmateriaal - 100 I E-boeke - 102 a Inleiding - 102 b Gratis e-boeke - 102 c E-boeke te koop -103 *Hoofstuk 9* *Bronne: Vindmiddels op ongepubliseerde staatsbronne - 104* A Inleiding - 104 B Vindmiddels - 104 a Inleiding - 104 b Bespreking van vindmiddels - 104 i Lyste van argivalia - 104 ii Inventarisse - 105 1 Inleiding - 105 2 Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 105 3 Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 106 4 Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 106 5 Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 106 iii Indekskaartjies - 106 1 Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 106 2 Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 106 3 Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 106 iv NAAIRS - Staatsargiefdiens se Rekenaardatabasis - 107 1 Inleiding - 107 2 Soektogte op NAAIRS mbv die internet - 107 a Verskillende databasisse - 107 b Beskrywing van inligting op NAAIRS-verwysing - 108 c Hoe doen 'n mens 'n soektog? - 108 d Afbakening van periode waarin bron geskep is - 109 e Voorbeeld van 'n soektog - 109 f Nog 'n paar voorstelle - 109 v Indekse van boedels in Meesterskantoor, Kaapstad - 110 vi Family History Library Catalog - 110 *HOOFSTUK 10* *Bronne: Bronne wat sterfte-inligting bevat en vindmiddels daarop 111* A Inleiding - 111 B Boedeldokumente - 111 a Inleiding - 111 b Tipes boedeldokumente - 111 i Sterfkennis - 111 ii Testament - 114 iii Likwidasie- en Distribusie-rekening - 114 iv Inventarisse en Waardasies - 115 v Vendusierol - 115 vi Insolvente boedels - 115 vii Sterfteregisters - 115 viii Diverse - 116 c Bewaarplekke van boedeldokumente en vindmiddels daarop - 116 i Inleiding - 116 ii Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 116 1 Wes-Kaap - 117 a Sterfkennis en reeks gekonsolideerde boedeldokumente - 117 i Inleiding - 117 ii Naairs en NAAIRS Indekse - 117 iii Handgeskrewe indekse - 118 iv CDNI-indekse - 118 b Sterfteregisters 1758-1833 - 118 c Testamente 119 i Testamente van Raad van Justisie 1686-1793 - 119 ii Meester van die Hooggeregshof se Testamente - 119 1 Inleiding - 119 2 1689-1875 - 119 3 1876-1912 - 119 4 1913-1916 - 120 5 1917 -1958 - 120 d Likwidasie- en Distribusierekeninge - 120 e Inventarisse en Waardasies - 121 f Vendusierolle -121 g Insolvente boedels - 121 h Duplikate van Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief se boedeldokumente - 121 LDS-duplikate - 121 Duplikate by GISA - 121 2 Noord-Kaap - 122 3 Oos-Kaap - 122 iii Meesterskantoor, Kaapstad - 122 iv Meesterskantoor, Kimberley - 122 v Meesterskantoor, Grahamstad - 122 vi GISA op Stellenbosch - 123 vii Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 123 1 Boedels van afgestorwenes - 123 a Inleiding - 123 b NAAIRS en NAAIRS-indekse - 123 2 Insolvente boedels - 125 3 Duplikate van Nasionale Argief, Pretoria se boedeldokumente - 125 Mikroflms by Gautengse Provinsiale Argief - 125 LDS-duplikate - 125 4 Meesterkantoor indekse in Nasionale Argief, Pretoria -125 viii Meesterskantoor, Pretoria - 126 ix Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 127 1 Boedels van afgestorwenes - 127 2 Insolvente boedels - 128 3 Duplikate: Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief se boedeldokumente - 128 LDS-duplikate - 128 Duplikate by GISA - 128 x Meesterskantoor, Bloemfontein - 128 xi Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 128 1 Boedels van afgestorwenes - 128 2 Insolvente boedels - 129 3 Duplikate van Provinsiale Argief, PMB se boedeldokumente - 129 LDS-duplikate - 129 Duplikate by GISA 129 xii Meesterskantoor, Pietermaritzburg - 129 xiii LDS-sentrums - 129 xiv Namibië - 130 xv Zimbabwe - 130 C Dokumente van die Registrateur van Geboortes, Huwelike en Sterfgevalle - 131 a Inleiding - 131 b Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 132 c Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 132 d Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 132 e Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 133 D Begraafplaas Rekords - 133 a Inleiding - 133 b Wes en Suid-Kaap - 134 Stellenbosch - 134 Paarl - 134 c Oos-Kaap - 135 Oos-Kaap tak van GGSA - 135 Port Elizabeth Stadsbiblioteek - 135 Amathola Museum in King William's Town - 135 Albany Museum, Grahamstad - 136 d Vrystaat - 136 e Natal - 136 f Transvaal - 136 E Inligting oor gesneuwelde soldate – 137 *HOOFSTUK 11* *Bronne: Diverse onderwerpe - 138* A Inleiding - 138 Grondbesit - 138 B Kaapprovinsie - 140 a Immigrasie Rekords en Passasierslyste - 140 i Inleiding - 140 ii Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 140 iii Nasionale Biblioteek van Suid-Afrika, Kaapstad - 140 iv Internetbronne - 140 b Bevolking Statistiek en Inligting - 141 c Bronne vir navorsing oor grondbesit - 142 i Inleiding - 142 ii Eiendomsreg (Freeholds) 1657 - 1717 en later - 142 iii Leningplase 1703 - 1813 - 143 iv Ewigdurende Erfpagplase 1813+ - 144 C Transvaal - 145 a Immigrasie Rekords - 145 b Bevolking Statistiek en Inligting - 145 c Bronne vir navorsing oor grondbesit - 145 D Vrystaat - 146 a Immigrasie Rekords - 146 b Bevolking Statistiek en Inligting - 146 c Bronne vir navorsing oor grondbesit - 146 E Natal - 147 a Immigrasie Rekords en Passasierslyste - 147 b Bevolking Statistiek en Inligting - 147 c Bronne vir navorsing oor grondbesit - 147 F Diverse Bewaarplekke - 148 G LDS Kerk se afskrifte – 148 *HOOFSTUK 12* *Bronne: Ongepubliseerde kerkrekords en staatsdokumente wat daarby aansluit - 149* A Inleiding - 149 B Navorsingswaarde van verskillende dokumente - 149 a Doopseel - 149 b Huweliksertifikaat - 151 c Lidmaatsertifikaat - 151 C Verskillende Kerke - 151 a Lutherse Kerk - 151 b NG Kerk - 151 i Inleiding - 151 ii Kaapse NGK - 152 1 Inleiding - 152 2 Verskillende oorspronklike bronne - 152 a Doopseels - 152 i Ringsafskrifte en indeks daarop - 152 ii Indekse op gemeente registers - 153 iii Die waarde van doopseels as navorsingsbron - 153 b Huweliksregisters - 154 c Lidmaatregisters - 155 3 Afskrifte -156 4 Internetbronne - 156 iii Transvaalse NGK - 156 iv Vrystaatse NGK - 157 v Natalse NGK - 157 vi Namibiese NGK - 158 c Gereformeerde Kerk - 158 d Nederduits Hervormde Kerk - 158 e Afrikaners in Angola en Argentinië - 159 D Nie-kerklike Huweliksdokumente - 159 a Wes-Kaapse Provinsiale Argief - 159 i Huwelikshofnotules van landdroskantore - 160 ii Indeks-kaartjies op “Marriage Licences” - 160 b Nasionale Argief, Pretoria - 160 c Vrystaatse Provinsiale Argief - 161 d Kwazulu-Natalse Provinsiale Argief - 161 e Registrateur van Geboortes, Huwelike en Sterfgevalle- 161 *HOOFSTUK 13* *Militêre en Buitelandse Navorsing - 162* A Militêre Navorsing - 162 a Inleiding - 162 b Eerste en Tweede Anglo-Boereoorlog - 162 c Eerste en Tweede Werêld Oorlog - 162 B Buitelandse navorsing - 163 a Inleiding - 163 b Nederland - 165 c Verenigde Koninkryk en Ierland - 165 d Duitsland - 167 e Frankryk – 167 *HOOFSTUK 14* *Gevallestudie - 168* A Belangrikheid van voldoende bewyse om afleidings te ondersteun - 168 B Gevallestudie – 171 *HOOFSTUK 15* *Navorsing mbt diverse Suid-Afrikaanse bevolkingsgroepe - 177* A Inleiding - 177 B Navorsing oor Slawe - 177 C Navorsing oor Kleurling-families - 177 D Navorsing oor Engelse families - 178 a Inleiding - 178 b Engelse Kerke - 178 Inleiding - 178 Church of England in South Africa - 179 Church of the Province of South Africa - 179 Katolieke Kerk - 180 Kind regards Daniel Jacobs www.gendata.co.za Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all Does anybody maybe have a connection or link to this Rossouw family below? Mijn VaDer Jacobes Petrüs Johannis Rossouw is ge boren de 3 october 1853 overlede de 12 Janiari 19 7. Mijn Moedr CorneJa Fredrie Ka Rossouw Geboren Cilliers geboren de 2..ste April 1857.(? - gat in papier) Sisters en broeders 1. Johanna Aletta Cla Z ..a (dalk is dit Clazina) Rs (staan vir Rossouw) is geboren de 29 Jüly 1878 overlede de 1 februari 1880.(- 2 jr oud ) 2.. Beatrix Magrieta Rs is geboren de 23 ste November 1879 geboren op Waterval dist BoüVort Wes. (getroud met LJC Cloete - oorlede: 30 Sept 1945) 3.. CorneJa FredrieKa Rs is geboren de 22 April 1882 geboren te Patrÿs fontÿn dist Carnarfon. 4.. HendrieKa Jacoba Johanna Rs is geboren de 22ste November 1883 geboren te Scorpioens drif dist Carnarvon. 5.. Pieter Josia Rs is geboren de 2de Maart 1886 beboren te Opzoek dist Ladÿsmith. 6.. Elie za beth Johanna Rs is geboren de 14 de September 1888 Overlede de 28ste September 1888. ( 2 weke oud ) 7.. Hendrik Johannis Rs is geboren de 29ste Jüni 1890 geboren opzoek Ladÿsmith. 8.. Jacobes Petrus Johannis Rs is geboren de 12 (? onduidelik)November 1892 overlede de .. December 1893. (1 jaar oud) 9.. Gabr.. Johannis Rs is geboren de 11 Febrieari 1896 geboren te Opzoek dist Ladÿsmith. Mijn vader J P J Rossoüw is geboren te Worcester Overleden te Hüisrevier dist Calitzdorp. Mijn moeder CF Rossoüw geboren Ciliiers is geboren te Büffelsfalÿ dist Ladÿsmith. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Remark on KAB file? > On 28 Aug 2011 at 11:46, Keith Meintjes wrote: > >> Can anyone guess what this remark means? >> >> DEPOT KAB >> SOURCE MOOC >> TYPE LEER >> VOLUME_NO 6/9/3380 >> SYSTEM 01 >> REFERENCE 19609 >> PART 1 >> DESCRIPTION MEINTJES, ERNEST FREDERICK. ESTATE PAPERS. >> STARTING 00000000 >> ENDING 00000000 >> REMARKS RE-OPENED TO COVER 91455. > > You'd need to look at 91455 to be sure. > > > > -- > Steve Hayes > E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk > Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) > Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com > Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 > Fax: 086-548-2525 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Is there anyone who can tell me more about this family: c7d8e1Diederick Marthinus Arnoldus de Beer (* 24 .6 1827 = 11 November 1827) x Clasena Helena Jacoba Geyer (*28.06.1829 =27.12.1829 † 27.06.1859) in 1845. Samuel Zacharias de Beer (*27.10.1846 = 27.12.1846 †24.08.1907) x  3 April 1871  at Hopetown  Petronella Jacoba Bronkhorst (*20.11.1851 = 12.4.1852 †19.1.1897). Their son Samuel Zacharias de Beer (*27.09.1874 † 2.06.1949) x  c1901 with Elsie Jacoba Jacomina Carolina Benson (*27.08.1880 = Mei 1880 te Kimberley † 22.12.1940)[d of Willem Joseph * 23.12.1847 = Richmond 30.1.1848 x Hopetown 24.9.1877 with Comelia Johanna VENTER * 1861? I want more info with regard to siblings and wider family connections? Regards, Andre Rev Dr AJ Groenewald East Calder Livingston --- On Mon, 8/29/11, Emjay-Vista <michaeljwattrus@btinternet.com> wrote: From: Emjay-Vista <michaeljwattrus@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE To: mbegeman@absamail.co.za, south-africa@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 7:32 AM Hullo Magda I have just had the greatest laugh so far today while I was trying to decipher your email below. No offence intended! The first thought was to ask you "Gooie Griet Magda, what has your BlackBerry been smoking??" This got me started and I have just had a good hearty laugh. Thank you for that and I do know you corrected it in a follow up email, but sometimes strange things like this make the day better. Have a good one yourself. Warmest regards Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: <mbegeman@absamail.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] AFRIKAANS GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH MANUAL FOR FREE Gee more Daniel Bale dank ie dat EU you handled ban avail. EU her online begin on my families nd te vows en EU is sewer you handled gain my Bale help. Griet Magda Begeman Sent from my BlackBerry® ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 28 Aug 2011 at 11:46, Keith Meintjes wrote: > Can anyone guess what this remark means? > > DEPOT KAB > SOURCE MOOC > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 6/9/3380 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 19609 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION MEINTJES, ERNEST FREDERICK. ESTATE PAPERS. > STARTING 00000000 > ENDING 00000000 > REMARKS RE-OPENED TO COVER 91455. You'd need to look at 91455 to be sure. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525