SA Genealogies 14 (VALCK) says Cataharina was the second child of Cornelis Valck and Catharina Fredericks, both from Amsterdam. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:55:28 AM EDT From: Richard Ball <richardonrootsweb@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk> To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Valk Hello Sonia, You wrote: I am also interested in the ethnicity of Catharina VALK, born ca 1620, married July 26, 1739, to Johann Horn in Cape Province and died Oct. 9, 1759 at the Cape. Her first marriage was to Carl Dietrich BOETENDAG (Buitendag). Her 2nd husband Johann HORN arrived in SA in 1735 and was a burger in 1739. I presume she may have been of German ethnicity, but am not sure. Has anyone any more information on her? I see you have been pointed to this web site: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=erikkriel&id=I1791 which states that she was born in Amsterdam. I checked the two marriage entries for her (since NGK marriage entries usually state the place of birth) and the result is this: Cape Town NGK, marriages Cape Archives, VC 621, page 11 1722 15 9br (November) Carel Diderik Buitendag, van Berlijn, Jongman en Catharina Valk van Cabo, Jonge dogter Cape Town NGK, marriages Cape Archives, VC 621, page 39 1739 Den 26 dito (Julij) Johan Horn, van Wolfenbuttel burger alhier jongman met Catharina Valk van Cabo de Goede Hoop, wed. wijlen den burger Carl Diderik Buitendag. Both entries state that she was born at the Cape. -- The TANAP Cape Inventories web site http://www.tanap.net/content/activities/documents/Orphan_Chamber-Cape_of_Good_Hope/index.htm has the following inventory which possibly refers to her: Reference no.: MOOC8/4.69 Testator(s): Cornelis Valk 8 November 1721 Inventaris der goederen naargelaten en met 'er dood ontruijmt door Cornelis Valk gewesene burger alhier, door d' ondergetekende gecommitt:e Weesmeesteren in presentie van Hend:k Eversdijk als naaste bloed vriend gedaan, namentlijk Erfgenaamen tot desen boedel Hend:k Eversdijk in huwelijk hebbende Engela Valk Catharina Valk - onmondig ---- Cheers, Richard -- Richard Ball, Norfolk, England http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk richard.ball@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Even if I get smacked over the knuckles - THANK YOU ALL for a wonderful Monday morning giggle. Fay -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steve Hayes Sent: 24 October 2011 08:33 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] On 24 Oct 2011 at 15:54, Colin wrote: > Invariably the degrees our maths exponents get up to, impress. But is making > trig jokes the first sine of insanity? It was trig(ger)ed by the reference to "cosynes", which lookes lyke ye pseudoe olde Englyshe spellynge of "cosines". -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com http://hayesfam.posterous.com/ E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 24 Oct 2011 at 15:54, Colin wrote: > Invariably the degrees our maths exponents get up to, impress. But is making > trig jokes the first sine of insanity? It was trig(ger)ed by the reference to "cosynes", which lookes lyke ye pseudoe olde Englyshe spellynge of "cosines". -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com http://hayesfam.posterous.com/ E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk

That's the one...short and snappy!! TP -----Original Message----- From: Ron Barnard <rdb@netactive.co.za> To: Bart Simon <thewanderer@iburst.co.za>; south-africa@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:46 Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] Good Day Have a look at www.lulu.com They offer a self publishing service for many types of books. ne or any number of copies. on Barnard ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Bart Simon" <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> o: "RW RSA" <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> ent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 10:52 PM ubject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] Mye Goodye Cosynes [!!!] Maybe on or off-list, but would like some insight to my question etc. I would like some ideas on who would be able to print on good paper and ink, a book designed for A4 paper portrait alignment etc., maybe in colour or B/W, limited editions, maybe 300-400 pages, or more etc. The book will be compiled in Word 2000 (Still !!!). Who prints there types of books etc. ?. Just asking .... - S.K.M. - [!!!] ===================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 1522/3968 - Release Date: 10/22/11 ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

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Surely this must be some sort of sine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "joy" <joy.wellbeloved@telkomsa.net> To: <shayes@dunelm.org.uk>; <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] >I think we are going off at a tangent here !

I think we are going off at a tangent here ! ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Hayes To: Bart Simon ; south-africa@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:32 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] On 23 Oct 2011 at 22:52, Bart Simon wrote: > Mye Goodye Cosynes [!!!] I tend to read that as "Goodbye cosines", and wonder if the reply should be "Hello Cosecants"

On 23 Oct 2011 at 22:52, Bart Simon wrote: > Mye Goodye Cosynes [!!!] I tend to read that as "Goodbye cosines", and wonder if the reply should be "Hello Cosecants" -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

That seems like a tangential remark. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:34:26 PM EDT From: "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> To: Bart Simon <thewanderer@iburst.co.za>, south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] On 23 Oct 2011 at 22:52, Bart Simon wrote: > Mye Goodye Cosynes [!!!] I tend to read that as "Goodbye cosines", and wonder if the reply should be "Hello Cosecants" -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mye Goodye Cosynes [!!!] Maybe on or off-list, but would like some insight to my question etc. I would like some ideas on who would be able to print on good paper and ink, a book designed for A4 paper portrait alignment etc., maybe in colour or B/W, limited editions, maybe 300-400 pages, or more etc. The book will be compiled in Word 2000 (Still !!!). Who prints there types of books etc. ?. Just asking .... - S.K.M. - [!!!] =====================

Hello Mee Cosynes [!!!] Copies to: National Library. GSSA. Lincolnshire Archive. Society of Geneologists London. A County Archive in Lincolnshire. Anywhere else, like LDS etc. ?. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ==============

Hi All, Can anyone tell me if you see more information than just the name of the person if you subscribe to Ancestry24? Thanks Desre

Even though my grandmother was a Meintjes and haven't found out where she fits in yet I would still love to review your article Thanks Rosemary Payne (nee Calitz) -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:01 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 286 Today's Topics: 1. Reviewers, please? (Keith Meintjes) 2. Re: Reviewers, please? (Steve Hayes) 3. Re: Reviewers, please? (Keith Meintjes) 4. Re: Reviewers, please? (Pat Frykberg) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:43:38 -0400 From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Reviewers, please? To: "SA List" <SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <330PJqBQM3968S02.1318815818@web02.cms.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 All, I have written a short paper (4 pages) intended for submission to Familia. It is to do with Meintjes genealogy around 1800. I will greatly appreciate a couple of volunteers to review it for me before I send it in. I am looking for comments on style and presentation, and I am not asking that anyone check the facts. Send me your e-mail, and I will forward two files: A 3-page word document and a 1-page .png illustration. The files are small. Thank you, Keith ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:04:53 +0200 From: "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Reviewers, please? To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4E9BA965.31456.E38B38@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 16 Oct 2011 at 21:43, Keith Meintjes wrote: > I have written a short paper (4 pages) intended for submission to Familia. > It > is to do with Meintjes genealogy around 1800. > > I will greatly appreciate a couple of volunteers to review it for me > before I > send it in. I am looking for comments on style and presentation, and I am > not > asking that anyone check the facts. > > Send me your e-mail, and I will forward two files: A 3-page word document > and > a 1-page .png illustration. The files are small. I'd be willing to take a look. Which version of Word? -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:18:57 -0400 From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Reviewers, please? To: <shayes@dunelm.org.uk>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <652PJqcR64528S03.1318817937@web03.cms.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Which version of Word? 2010. I can backversion it if necessary. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 10:05:51 PM EDT From: "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Reviewers, please? On 16 Oct 2011 at 21:43, Keith Meintjes wrote: > I have written a short paper (4 pages) intended for submission to Familia. It > is to do with Meintjes genealogy around 1800. > > I will greatly appreciate a couple of volunteers to review it for me > before I > send it in. I am looking for comments on style and presentation, and I am not > asking that anyone check the facts. > > Send me your e-mail, and I will forward two files: A 3-page word document and > a 1-page .png illustration. The files are small. I'd be willing to take a look. Which version of Word? -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:14:04 +1300 From: Pat Frykberg <patfryk@clear.net.nz> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Reviewers, please? To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2488E8AF9DCE4501B31F88875FB4DD08@PatricaPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I would love to-do it Keith Pat(ricia) Frykberg -------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 2:43 PM To: "SA List" <SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Reviewers, please? > All, > > I have written a short paper (4 pages) intended for submission to Familia. > It > is to do with Meintjes genealogy around 1800. > > I will greatly appreciate a couple of volunteers to review it for me > before I > send it in. I am looking for comments on style and presentation, and I am > not > asking that anyone check the facts. > > Send me your e-mail, and I will forward two files: A 3-page word document > and > a 1-page .png illustration. 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I am also interested in the ethnicity of Catharina VALK, born ca 1620, married July 26, 1739, to Johann Horn in Cape Province and died Oct. 9, 1759 at the Cape. Her first marriage was to Carl Dietrich BOETENDAG (Buitendag). Her 2nd husband Johann HORN arrived in SA in 1735 and was a burger in 1739. I presume she may have been of German ethnicity, but am not sure. Has anyone any more information on her? Sonia

I want to again look at the ethnic background of my husband's van Heerden family, and have come up with some persons whose ethnicity is unknown. I know there was some controversy about the De Beer family. In my records I show that they could be from Land of Waas in Germany or the Island of Riigen, Denmark. Does anyone have any more information on the origin of the De Beer Family. Sonia

Leaving a book for the years to come is simple. Send (as you must do) 2 copies to the National Library, Send others to the Society of Genealogists in LOndon, GSSA, and any other sort of repository you know of. Books endure, our electronic stuff changes so rapidly and becomes obsolete within 20 years that it is undependable I think. Great to get it done though. And one to Lincolnshire? My grandfather came from there too. And I have sent his story to their County Archives. Patricia Frykberg -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart Simon" <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:49 AM To: "RW RSA" <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] I Have To Ask The Question: 'How does one preservetheir Genealogy ?'. [!!!] > Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! > > I have finally decided to write out in book form PDF or possible paper > printed version too, my own family history to some degree. I am back to > about 1550 in north Lincolnshire on my own surname. What is the best way > to > preserve my PDF digital book or possible limited edition paper book by > distribution ?. How can I leave a book behind to be kept long after I am > gone ?. How is everyone else going to preserve their years of work, and > how > much of it might get lost for whatever reason ?. > > Yours Sincerely, > Sir Ken Markham, K.C.B. (95) > ========================== > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 1522/3967 - Release Date: 10/22/11 >

I have saved my histories on the computer and also printed them out in booklets with a copy for each of my children and interested cosynes - if they lose them that's their problem!! Cheers Jean in New Zealand -------------------------------------------------- From: "Hetta Scholtz" <hettascholtz@lantic.net> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:48 AM To: "Bart Simon" <thewanderer@iburst.co.za>; <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] I Have To Ask The Question: 'How does onepreservetheir Genealogy ?'. [!!!] > https://www.familysearch.org/techtips/2011/09/preserving-your-family-history-records-digitally > Interesting > Hetta Scholtz > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bart Simon > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:49 PM > To: RW RSA > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] I Have To Ask The Question: 'How does one > preservetheir Genealogy ?'. [!!!] > > Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! > > I have finally decided to write out in book form PDF or possible paper > printed version too, my own family history to some degree. I am back to > about 1550 in north Lincolnshire on my own surname. What is the best way > to > preserve my PDF digital book or possible limited edition paper book by > distribution ?. How can I leave a book behind to be kept long after I am > gone ?. How is everyone else going to preserve their years of work, and > how > much of it might get lost for whatever reason ?. > > Yours Sincerely, > Sir Ken Markham, K.C.B. (95) > ========================== > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4567 - Release Date: 10/22/11 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

https://www.familysearch.org/techtips/2011/09/preserving-your-family-history-records-digitally Interesting Hetta Scholtz -----Original Message----- From: Bart Simon Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:49 PM To: RW RSA Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] I Have To Ask The Question: 'How does one preservetheir Genealogy ?'. [!!!] Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! I have finally decided to write out in book form PDF or possible paper printed version too, my own family history to some degree. I am back to about 1550 in north Lincolnshire on my own surname. What is the best way to preserve my PDF digital book or possible limited edition paper book by distribution ?. How can I leave a book behind to be kept long after I am gone ?. How is everyone else going to preserve their years of work, and how much of it might get lost for whatever reason ?. Yours Sincerely, Sir Ken Markham, K.C.B. (95) ========================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4567 - Release Date: 10/22/11

Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! I have finally decided to write out in book form PDF or possible paper printed version too, my own family history to some degree. I am back to about 1550 in north Lincolnshire on my own surname. What is the best way to preserve my PDF digital book or possible limited edition paper book by distribution ?. How can I leave a book behind to be kept long after I am gone ?. How is everyone else going to preserve their years of work, and how much of it might get lost for whatever reason ?. Yours Sincerely, Sir Ken Markham, K.C.B. (95) ==========================

Hello, <<< Can anyone tell me more on Clarissa Meek who m:28-09-1853 William James Dunbar Moodie. I suspect she might be related to other Meeks that went to Greytown RSA. I wonder if she is related to Elizabeth Meek of Enfield, England who m:26-11-1858 to James Frederick Markham ?. >>> I have just answered my own question, something I have wondered about for a long time: John Joseph Meek + Clarissa Cutbush had about 6 adopted children it seems. Two of these children were Clarissa Meek b:26-01-1836 + Elizabeth Meek b:26-01-1836. Not only are Clarissa + Elizabeth Meek sisters, they are twins !!!. In my records I already Elizabeth Meek's b. date as b:26-01-1836. Elizabeth Meek m. James Frederick Markham, my line, their one son Frederick Edmund Markham m. Elsie Elizabeth Moodie. This also should mean that this Clarissa Meek b:26-01-1836 must be the same person who has eluded many (???) it seems so far, who m:28-09-1853 to William James Dunbar Moodie, Esq. J.P. (b:13-11-1827 at Port Francis, Cape Colony, South Africa). In fact James Frederick Markham had a dg named Clarissa Mary Markham. This is a most interesting link to be found for me. It would explain why James F. Markham and 3 of his sons went to Rhodesia having closeness to the Moodie family, his wife's sister married a Moodie !!!. I think is the first time this link has been established.... - S.K.M. - [!!!] =======================