Yes, I found, at e-family, some Koekemoer information in the First Fifty Years project, but nothing on his origins. Also, Koekemoer is not in the Familia index. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:39:04 PM EDT From: "Rob Jones" <rob@robjones.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Koekemoer/Kukemur Hi All, Have a look at the www.e-family.co.za site. That has some details for Jochem Koekemoer. Regards, Rob -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 28 October 2011 07:14 PM To: Andre Groenewald; south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Koekemoer/Kukemur There is no information on his origins in SA Genealogies, Malherbe or de Villiers / Pama, nor on the Stamouers web site. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:43:30 AM EDT From: Andre Groenewald <groenstes@yahoo.com> To: "south-africa@rootsweb.com" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Koekemoer/Kukemur Joachim of Jochem Koekemoer (*18.11.1690 gebore te Oldenburg, Duitsland) is die stamvader wat van Westphalia/Wesfalen, Wes-Duitsland na Suid-Afrika gekom het. Hy het op 18 jarige ouderdom as ‘n soldaat aangesluit by die destydse Oos Indiese Kompanjie (V.O.C) en is na die Kaap gestuur. Hy stap aan wal op 18 oktober 1709. Hy trou met Maria Putter (*3.4.1696) in die Kaap van Goede Hoop op 1 Augustus 1717. Sy was die dogter van Dietrich Pötter wat vanaf Duitsland in 1675 hom as jagter in die Kaap gevestig het en Zacharia Visser. Later sou hy sy naam na Diederik Putter verander. Sy nageslag: · (B1) Diederik (= 19.7.1716) trou met Jacomina van Wijk op 22 April 1748. Sy was dogter van Gerrit Arie van Wijk en Elizabeth Vivier. Groetnis Andre Rev Dr AJ Groenewald 8 Manse Court East Calder Livingston EH53 0HF Tel 01506 884585 Mobile 075 888 458 14 groenstes@yahoo.com Scottish Charity Reg. No.SC006973 ________________________________ From: Richard Ball <richardonrootsweb@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk> To: Sonia van Heerden <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Koekemoer/Kukemur Hello Sonia, SvH> Joechem KOEKEMOER/KUKEMUR, was born ca 1690 in either Germany or SvH> Netherlands, arrived in SA before 1716 and married Maria PUTTER SvH> (b8), born April 3, 1696, SvH> CP. He died pre Mar 19, 1773, CP SvH> and had 8 children. SvH> Can anyone tell me whether he was German or Dutch? So far as I know there is no evidence (certainly none that I could find) in the records in the Cape archives to suggest any place of birth or any date of birth. I would be interested in your source for the birth date of Maria Putter as you give it above. She was baptised 21 July 1696 but, again so far as I know, there is no source for a birth date. Also your source for JK's death? http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/kfp/I082.html Yours sincerely, Richard -- Richard Ball, Norfolk, England http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk richard.ball@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is no information on his origins in SA Genealogies, Malherbe or de Villiers / Pama, nor on the Stamouers web site. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:43:30 AM EDT From: Andre Groenewald <groenstes@yahoo.com> To: "south-africa@rootsweb.com" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Koekemoer/Kukemur Joachim of Jochem Koekemoer (*18.11.1690 gebore te Oldenburg, Duitsland) is die stamvader wat van Westphalia/Wesfalen, Wes-Duitsland na Suid-Afrika gekom het. Hy het op 18 jarige ouderdom as ‘n soldaat aangesluit by die destydse Oos Indiese Kompanjie (V.O.C) en is na die Kaap gestuur. Hy stap aan wal op 18 oktober 1709. Hy trou met Maria Putter (*3.4.1696) in die Kaap van Goede Hoop op 1 Augustus 1717. Sy was die dogter van Dietrich Pötter wat vanaf Duitsland in 1675 hom as jagter in die Kaap gevestig het en Zacharia Visser. Later sou hy sy naam na Diederik Putter verander. Sy nageslag: ·         (B1) Diederik (= 19.7.1716) trou met Jacomina van Wijk op 22 April 1748. Sy was dogter van Gerrit Arie van Wijk en Elizabeth Vivier. Groetnis Andre Rev Dr AJ Groenewald 8 Manse Court East Calder Livingston EH53 0HF Tel 01506 884585 Mobile 075 888 458 14 groenstes@yahoo.com Scottish Charity Reg. No.SC006973 ________________________________ From: Richard Ball <richardonrootsweb@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk> To: Sonia van Heerden <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Koekemoer/Kukemur Hello Sonia, SvH> Joechem KOEKEMOER/KUKEMUR, was born ca 1690 in either Germany or SvH> Netherlands, arrived in SA before 1716 and married Maria PUTTER SvH> (b8), born April 3, 1696, SvH> CP. He died pre Mar 19, 1773, CP SvH> and had 8 children. SvH> Can anyone tell me whether he was German or Dutch? So far as I know there is no evidence (certainly none that I could find) in the records in the Cape archives to suggest any place of birth or any date of birth. I would be interested in your source for the birth date of Maria Putter as you give it above. She was baptised 21 July 1696 but, again so far as I know, there is no source for a birth date. Also your source for JK's death? http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/kfp/I082.html Yours sincerely, Richard -- Richard Ball, Norfolk, England http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk richard.ball@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you again everyone who helped me cut my "unknown" column on my ethnicity chart down in size.Could you help me with another surname, please? Joechem KOEKEMOER/KUKEMUR, was born ca 1690 in either Germany or Netherlands, arrived in SA before 1716 and married Maria PUTTER (b8), born April 3, 1696, CP. He died pre Mar 19, 1773, CP and had 8 children. Can anyone tell me whether he was German or Dutch? Sonia

Joachim of Jochem Koekemoer (*18.11.1690 gebore te Oldenburg, Duitsland) is die stamvader wat van Westphalia/Wesfalen, Wes-Duitsland na Suid-Afrika gekom het. Hy het op 18 jarige ouderdom as ‘n soldaat aangesluit by die destydse Oos Indiese Kompanjie (V.O.C) en is na die Kaap gestuur. Hy stap aan wal op 18 oktober 1709. Hy trou met Maria Putter (*3.4.1696) in die Kaap van Goede Hoop op 1 Augustus 1717. Sy was die dogter van Dietrich Pötter wat vanaf Duitsland in 1675 hom as jagter in die Kaap gevestig het en Zacharia Visser. Later sou hy sy naam na Diederik Putter verander. Sy nageslag: ·         (B1) Diederik (= 19.7.1716) trou met Jacomina van Wijk op 22 April 1748. Sy was dogter van Gerrit Arie van Wijk en Elizabeth Vivier. Groetnis Andre Rev Dr AJ Groenewald 8 Manse Court East Calder Livingston EH53 0HF Tel 01506 884585 Mobile 075 888 458 14 groenstes@yahoo.com Scottish Charity Reg. No.SC006973 ________________________________ From: Richard Ball <richardonrootsweb@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk> To: Sonia van Heerden <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Koekemoer/Kukemur Hello Sonia, SvH> Joechem KOEKEMOER/KUKEMUR, was born ca 1690 in either Germany or SvH> Netherlands, arrived in SA before 1716 and married Maria PUTTER SvH> (b8), born April 3, 1696, SvH> CP. He died pre Mar 19, 1773, CP SvH> and had 8 children. SvH> Can anyone tell me whether he was German or Dutch? So far as I know there is no evidence (certainly none that I could find) in the records in the Cape archives to suggest any place of birth or any date of birth. I would be interested in your source for the birth date of Maria Putter as you give it above. She was baptised 21 July 1696 but, again so far as I know, there is no source for a birth date. Also your source for JK's death? http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/kfp/I082.html Yours sincerely, Richard -- Richard Ball, Norfolk, England http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk richard.ball@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all   Obituary of Rev. James FISH     James FISH, who was born at Manchester, England, in the year 1838. Early in life he was converted to God, and after service as a Sunday School teacher and Local Preacher he became a candidate for the ministry. He was accepted by the Yearly Conference of 1860, and appointed to Hinde Street, London, as assistant to the late Dr. PUNSHON. He came to South Africa in 1861, and began his ministry in this country in the Grahamstown Circuit. His health was never robust, and at frequent intervals he had to desist from preaching. After sixteen years'service he retired from our ministry, but at the South African Conference of 1884 he sought for readmission and was accepted. He laboured with much success in several of our principal English Citcuits, but was compelled by failing health to become a supernumerary in 1891. He spent the last eight years of his life in Stellenbosch, in reading and meditation, hoping against hope for the day on which he could resume his beloved work of preaching. He stood in the front rank of the preachers of our South Africa Connexion, and his sermons were characterised by great originality of thought and freshness of treatment. He was remarkably gifted in prayer, and many are the testimonies that are given concerning the blessings experienced under his ministratrations, not only in the pulpit, but in the homes of sorrow and sickness, where his sympathetic words and his effectual prayer brought light and comfort to not a few. The end of his earthly life was unspeakably sad. By the accidental overturning of a lamp he was severly burnt, and after many months of intense suffering he went to the home of his son in East London in December last. Under the advise of medical men he consented to the amputation of his right arm, but the mental shock was too great. His mind gave away, and in an ungarded hour he wondered from the hospital and was lost beyond trace. It is surmised that he fell into the river and that his body was carried out to sea. After a troubled life, in which he endured many heavy sorrows, he entered into rest in January 1901, in the 62nd year of his age. From: Minutes of Wesley Methodist Conference of 1901     Transcribed by  Darryl Allwright P O Box 166 Grahamstown South Africa 6140 Tel: 046-622-8134 Cell: 076-091-2764 Fax: 086-513-3779

Thanks Steve. So I guess that would be even more difficult to view. John -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steve Hayes Sent: 27 October 2011 03:20 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Divorce Papers On 27 Oct 2011 at 8:01, John Deare wrote: > Probably or should be :) stored at the Masters Office for about 30 years. > Thereafter they are supposed to go to the Provincial Archives. John Not the Master's office. The Master's office only dealt with estates - deceased, insolvent, lunatic etc. Cases heard before a Supreme Court judge would be kept with with the court records until they were sent to the archives. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4577 - Release Date: 10/26/11

On 27 Oct 2011 at 8:01, John Deare wrote: > Probably or should be :) stored at the Masters Office for about 30 years. > Thereafter they are supposed to go to the Provincial Archives. John Not the Master's office. The Master's office only dealt with estates - deceased, insolvent, lunatic etc. Cases heard before a Supreme Court judge would be kept with with the court records until they were sent to the archives. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

Ho Pat Most of the divorce cases these days, to guard privacy for children etc., are heard in camera, ie not published as they used to be in the papers. I would imagine that as 1995 is really recent the lawyer concerned would therefore keep the papers in client records? I had not heard before that these ever go to National Archives. learn something new each day Pat Frykberg -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pat Brown" <mistyhaven@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:54 AM To: "Genealogy - South Africa" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Divorce Papers > Hi Listers, > Hope this is not too peripheral. I need to get a copy of divorce papers > from a case that was heard in the Durban Supreme Court in about 1995. Are > these available and where would I go to look? They would not have been > transfered to the National Archive yet.

> Probably or should be :) stored at the Masters Office > for about 30 years. Thereafter they are supposed > to go to the Provincial Archives. John I was not aware that the <asters' office has anything to do with divorces. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:05:16 AM EDT From: "John Deare" <dearej@mweb.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Divorce Papers Probably or should be :) stored at the Masters Office for about 30 years. Thereafter they are supposed to go to the Provincial Archives. John -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Brown Sent: 26 October 2011 09:54 PM To: Genealogy - South Africa Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Divorce Papers Hi Listers, Hope this is not too peripheral. I need to get a copy of divorce papers from a case that was heard in the Durban Supreme Court in about 1995. Are these available and where would I go to look? They would not have been transfered to the National Archive yet. Thanks, Paddy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4575 - Release Date: 10/26/11 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Probably or should be :) stored at the Masters Office for about 30 years. Thereafter they are supposed to go to the Provincial Archives. John -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Brown Sent: 26 October 2011 09:54 PM To: Genealogy - South Africa Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Divorce Papers Hi Listers, Hope this is not too peripheral. I need to get a copy of divorce papers from a case that was heard in the Durban Supreme Court in about 1995. Are these available and where would I go to look? They would not have been transfered to the National Archive yet. Thanks, Paddy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4575 - Release Date: 10/26/11

On 27 Oct 2011 at 9:20, Pat Frykberg wrote: > Ho Pat > Most of the divorce cases these days, to guard privacy for children etc., are > heard in camera, ie not published as they used to be in the papers. I would > imagine that as 1995 is really recent the lawyer concerned would therefore > keep the papers in client records? I had not heard before that these ever go > to National Archives. learn something new each day Pat Frykberg They are preseumably kept in the court records until they are transferred to the archives, but where the records of the Durban Supreme Court are kept, I wouldn't know. The most recent ones that I have on my list to look up from the Durban Supreme Court are 1982, and those are in the Archives. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

Hi Listers, Hope this is not too peripheral. I need to get a copy of divorce papers from a case that was heard in the Durban Supreme Court in about 1995. Are these available and where would I go to look? They would not have been transfered to the National Archive yet. Thanks, Paddy

Thank you all for the information on the ethnicity of Valk. Sonia van Heerden Toronto, Canada

Hi I wonder if anyone is researching the WRIGHT/HULLEY family? I am looking for info on John Alfred Wright who married Ruth Rachel HULLEY and their son Ernest Charles Alfred WRIGHT was born in 1905. Any help would be lovely. I have some of the HULLEY info so am only looking for WRIGHT. Thanks Moyra Joyce Bedford

I have Van Der Valk in my Oliver tree - they live in the Cape. Don't know if its the same family but they said they have a full family tree. Regards Tammy -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:01 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 295 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] (Brian & Fay Lea) 2. Re: Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] (Ron Barnard) 3. re Forest Hill Cemetery, Port Elizabeth, South Africa (Carol Beneke) 4. Re: Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] (tombipeck@talktalk.net) 5. Re: Valk (Johan) 6. Re: Valk (Richard Ball) 7. Re: Valk (Keith Meintjes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:30:47 +0200 From: "Brian & Fay Lea" <cancun@icon.co.za> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] To: <shayes@dunelm.org.uk>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <42AC237EFEDF4446B82AB582633C55D1@userfed1b44216> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Even if I get smacked over the knuckles - THANK YOU ALL for a wonderful Monday morning giggle. Fay -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steve Hayes Sent: 24 October 2011 08:33 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] On 24 Oct 2011 at 15:54, Colin wrote: > Invariably the degrees our maths exponents get up to, impress. But is making > trig jokes the first sine of insanity? It was trig(ger)ed by the reference to "cosynes", which lookes lyke ye pseudoe olde Englyshe spellynge of "cosines". -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com http://hayesfam.posterous.com/ E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:46:19 +0200 From: "Ron Barnard" <rdb@netactive.co.za> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] To: "Bart Simon" <thewanderer@iburst.co.za>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E693FABB37AB43E58FF5874263CB840E@fred> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Good Day Have a look at www.lulu.com They offer a self publishing service for many types of books. One or any number of copies. Ron Barnard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Simon" <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> To: "RW RSA" <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 10:52 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] > Mye Goodye Cosynes [!!!] > > Maybe on or off-list, but would like some insight to my question etc. I > would like some ideas on who would be able to print on good paper and ink, > a > book designed for A4 paper portrait alignment etc., maybe in colour or > B/W, > limited editions, maybe 300-400 pages, or more etc. The book will be > compiled in Word 2000 (Still !!!). Who prints there types of books etc. ?. > Just asking .... > > - S.K.M. - [!!!] > ===================== > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 1522/3968 - Release Date: 10/22/11 > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:36:33 +0200 From: "Carol Beneke" <carme@iafrica.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] re Forest Hill Cemetery, Port Elizabeth, South Africa To: <buitenposten-request@rootsweb.com> Cc: Rootsweb - Kwazulu-Natal <KWAZULU-NATAL-SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com>, Rootsweb - Northern Cape <NORTHERN-CAPE-SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com>, ROOTSWEB - CAPE TOWN <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com>, Rootsweb SA-L <south-africa-L@rootsweb.com>, "ROOTSWEB - E.C." <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com>, "Rootsweb - O.F.S." <SOUTH-AFRICA-ORANGE-FREE-STATE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <C0B23F883F77423EA33F76611013A422@AspirePC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi List Just to let you know the C?s from Forest Hill Cemetery are now on the web. You can view at http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1829039 Regards Carol BENEKE nee STEWART ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:21:48 -0400 From: tombipeck@talktalk.net Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CE605EA276D009-B5C-5D67@FRR4-L26.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That's the one...short and snappy!! TP -----Original Message----- From: Ron Barnard <rdb@netactive.co.za> To: Bart Simon <thewanderer@iburst.co.za>; south-africa@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:46 Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] Good Day Have a look at www.lulu.com They offer a self publishing service for many types of books. ne or any number of copies. on Barnard ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Bart Simon" <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> o: "RW RSA" <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> ent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 10:52 PM ubject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] Mye Goodye Cosynes [!!!] Maybe on or off-list, but would like some insight to my question etc. I would like some ideas on who would be able to print on good paper and ink, a book designed for A4 paper portrait alignment etc., maybe in colour or B/W, limited editions, maybe 300-400 pages, or more etc. The book will be compiled in Word 2000 (Still !!!). Who prints there types of books etc. ?. Just asking .... - S.K.M. - [!!!] ===================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 1522/3968 - Release Date: 10/22/11 ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:34:50 +0200 From: "Johan" <morgenthal@amobia.co.za> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Valk To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <772EAC86081A47D0B8A16AFA906F7D34@morgenthal> Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" Sonia, Look at the following link: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=erikkriel&id=I1791 Regards, Johan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonia van Heerden" <soniavh11@hotmail.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:23 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Valk > > I am also interested in the ethnicity of Catharina VALK, born ca 1620, > married July 26, 1739, to Johann Horn in Cape Province and died Oct. 9, > 1759 at the Cape. Her first marriage was to Carl Dietrich BOETENDAG > (Buitendag). > > Her 2nd husband Johann HORN arrived in SA in 1735 and was a burger in > 1739. > > I presume she may have been of German ethnicity, but am not sure. Has > anyone any more information on her? > > Sonia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4570 - Release Date: 10/23/11 > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 34 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:38:39 +0100 From: Richard Ball <richardonrootsweb@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Valk To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <715260656.20111024153839@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Sonia, You wrote: I am also interested in the ethnicity of Catharina VALK, born ca 1620, married July 26, 1739, to Johann Horn in Cape Province and died Oct. 9, 1759 at the Cape. Her first marriage was to Carl Dietrich BOETENDAG (Buitendag). Her 2nd husband Johann HORN arrived in SA in 1735 and was a burger in 1739. I presume she may have been of German ethnicity, but am not sure. Has anyone any more information on her? I see you have been pointed to this web site: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=erikkriel&id=I1791 which states that she was born in Amsterdam. I checked the two marriage entries for her (since NGK marriage entries usually state the place of birth) and the result is this: Cape Town NGK, marriages Cape Archives, VC 621, page 11 1722 15 9br (November) Carel Diderik Buitendag, van Berlijn, Jongman en Catharina Valk van Cabo, Jonge dogter Cape Town NGK, marriages Cape Archives, VC 621, page 39 1739 Den 26 dito (Julij) Johan Horn, van Wolfenbuttel burger alhier jongman met Catharina Valk van Cabo de Goede Hoop, wed. wijlen den burger Carl Diderik Buitendag. Both entries state that she was born at the Cape. -- The TANAP Cape Inventories web site http://www.tanap.net/content/activities/documents/Orphan_Chamber-Cape_of_Good_Hope/index.htm has the following inventory which possibly refers to her: Reference no.: MOOC8/4.69 Testator(s): Cornelis Valk 8 November 1721 Inventaris der goederen naargelaten en met 'er dood ontruijmt door Cornelis Valk gewesene burger alhier, door d' ondergetekende gecommitt:e Weesmeesteren in presentie van Hend:k Eversdijk als naaste bloed vriend gedaan, namentlijk Erfgenaamen tot desen boedel Hend:k Eversdijk in huwelijk hebbende Engela Valk Catharina Valk - onmondig ---- Cheers, Richard -- Richard Ball, Norfolk, England http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk richard.ball@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:06:24 -0400 From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Valk To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <257PJXPFy0000S03.1319468784@web03.cms.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 SA Genealogies 14 (VALCK) says Cataharina was the second child of Cornelis Valck and Catharina Fredericks, both from Amsterdam. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:55:28 AM EDT From: Richard Ball <richardonrootsweb@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk> To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Valk Hello Sonia, You wrote: I am also interested in the ethnicity of Catharina VALK, born ca 1620, married July 26, 1739, to Johann Horn in Cape Province and died Oct. 9, 1759 at the Cape. Her first marriage was to Carl Dietrich BOETENDAG (Buitendag). Her 2nd husband Johann HORN arrived in SA in 1735 and was a burger in 1739. I presume she may have been of German ethnicity, but am not sure. Has anyone any more information on her? I see you have been pointed to this web site: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=erikkriel&id=I1791 which states that she was born in Amsterdam. I checked the two marriage entries for her (since NGK marriage entries usually state the place of birth) and the result is this: Cape Town NGK, marriages Cape Archives, VC 621, page 11 1722 15 9br (November) Carel Diderik Buitendag, van Berlijn, Jongman en Catharina Valk van Cabo, Jonge dogter Cape Town NGK, marriages Cape Archives, VC 621, page 39 1739 Den 26 dito (Julij) Johan Horn, van Wolfenbuttel burger alhier jongman met Catharina Valk van Cabo de Goede Hoop, wed. wijlen den burger Carl Diderik Buitendag. Both entries state that she was born at the Cape. -- The TANAP Cape Inventories web site http://www.tanap.net/content/activities/documents/Orphan_Chamber-Cape_of_Good_Hope/index.htm has the following inventory which possibly refers to her: Reference no.: MOOC8/4.69 Testator(s): Cornelis Valk 8 November 1721 Inventaris der goederen naargelaten en met 'er dood ontruijmt door Cornelis Valk gewesene burger alhier, door d' ondergetekende gecommitt:e Weesmeesteren in presentie van Hend:k Eversdijk als naaste bloed vriend gedaan, namentlijk Erfgenaamen tot desen boedel Hend:k Eversdijk in huwelijk hebbende Engela Valk Catharina Valk - onmondig ---- Cheers, Richard -- Richard Ball, Norfolk, England http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk richard.ball@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Invariably the degrees our maths exponents get up to, impress. But is making trig jokes the first sine of insanity? Colin -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: Monday, 24 October 2011 2:06 PM To: shayes@dunelm.org.uk; south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] That seems like a tangential remark. Keith

Hello Sonia, You wrote: I am also interested in the ethnicity of Catharina VALK, born ca 1620, married July 26, 1739, to Johann Horn in Cape Province and died Oct. 9, 1759 at the Cape. Her first marriage was to Carl Dietrich BOETENDAG (Buitendag). Her 2nd husband Johann HORN arrived in SA in 1735 and was a burger in 1739. I presume she may have been of German ethnicity, but am not sure. Has anyone any more information on her? I see you have been pointed to this web site: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=erikkriel&id=I1791 which states that she was born in Amsterdam. I checked the two marriage entries for her (since NGK marriage entries usually state the place of birth) and the result is this: Cape Town NGK, marriages Cape Archives, VC 621, page 11 1722 15 9br (November) Carel Diderik Buitendag, van Berlijn, Jongman en Catharina Valk van Cabo, Jonge dogter Cape Town NGK, marriages Cape Archives, VC 621, page 39 1739 Den 26 dito (Julij) Johan Horn, van Wolfenbuttel burger alhier jongman met Catharina Valk van Cabo de Goede Hoop, wed. wijlen den burger Carl Diderik Buitendag. Both entries state that she was born at the Cape. -- The TANAP Cape Inventories web site http://www.tanap.net/content/activities/documents/Orphan_Chamber-Cape_of_Good_Hope/index.htm has the following inventory which possibly refers to her: Reference no.: MOOC8/4.69 Testator(s): Cornelis Valk 8 November 1721 Inventaris der goederen naargelaten en met 'er dood ontruijmt door Cornelis Valk gewesene burger alhier, door d' ondergetekende gecommitt:e Weesmeesteren in presentie van Hend:k Eversdijk als naaste bloed vriend gedaan, namentlijk Erfgenaamen tot desen boedel Hend:k Eversdijk in huwelijk hebbende Engela Valk Catharina Valk - onmondig ---- Cheers, Richard -- Richard Ball, Norfolk, England http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk richard.ball@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk

Sonia, Look at the following link: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=erikkriel&id=I1791 Regards, Johan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonia van Heerden" <soniavh11@hotmail.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:23 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Valk > > I am also interested in the ethnicity of Catharina VALK, born ca 1620, > married July 26, 1739, to Johann Horn in Cape Province and died Oct. 9, > 1759 at the Cape. Her first marriage was to Carl Dietrich BOETENDAG > (Buitendag). > > Her 2nd husband Johann HORN arrived in SA in 1735 and was a burger in > 1739. > > I presume she may have been of German ethnicity, but am not sure. Has > anyone any more information on her? > > Sonia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4570 - Release Date: 10/23/11 > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 34 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Good Day Have a look at www.lulu.com They offer a self publishing service for many types of books. One or any number of copies. Ron Barnard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Simon" <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> To: "RW RSA" <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 10:52 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Printing of a Private Book Genealogy [!!!] > Mye Goodye Cosynes [!!!] > > Maybe on or off-list, but would like some insight to my question etc. I > would like some ideas on who would be able to print on good paper and ink, > a > book designed for A4 paper portrait alignment etc., maybe in colour or > B/W, > limited editions, maybe 300-400 pages, or more etc. The book will be > compiled in Word 2000 (Still !!!). Who prints there types of books etc. ?. > Just asking .... > > - S.K.M. - [!!!] > ===================== > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 1522/3968 - Release Date: 10/22/11 >

Hi List Just to let you know the C’s from Forest Hill Cemetery are now on the web. You can view at http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1829039 Regards Carol BENEKE nee STEWART ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families.