If you can get hold of an old voters roll it gives ID numbers. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steve Hayes Sent: 14 November 2011 06:10 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Old South African ID numbers On 14 Nov 2011 at 11:06, Desre Bean wrote: > I have a Old ID number for my grandmother.... how useful is it to have? Would > i be able to trace birth and marriage certificates with it? Not really. It might be able to show where she was living in the 1951 census, though, if you could find a key to the numbers and districts. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4616 - Release Date: 11/14/11
Some may not remember, but we used to have green cards before the book of life, and those can also be found. Gerda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karel Marais" <turando101@yahoo.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Old South African ID numbers Hi, 690802 5462 081 is an id number. The ID number code is: 690802 - date of birth 1969 August 02 5462 - above 5000 is male and below is female 0 - If 0 SA born if 1 born out of SA 8 - used to be the race denominator now just a check number 1 - check code or number Hope this helps, Cheers, Karel Marais Marais x Thurnau, Lloyd x Pienaar, Bennett x Cloete, Webber x Maskrey, Kapp x Slabbert, Bestbier x Du Toit ________________________________ From: Keith Meintjes <umfundi@usa.net> To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011, 15:14 Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Old South African ID numbers Do you mean the "book of life" number that was issued from about 1970? If so, the first few numbers are the birth date: yymmdd. Race used to be encoded in the number, but that was changed some years ago. I am not aware of any encoding in the previous ID number. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:07:20 AM EST From: Desre Bean <dezbean@gmail.com> To: SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Old South African ID numbers Dear listers I have a Old ID number for my grandmother.... how useful is it to have? Would i be able to trace birth and marriage certificates with it? Thanks Desre ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Maybe I am a bit late for this reply, but I have just received my father's information from Home Affairs and he never had the new number - in fact his number doesn't even convey that he was a citizen yet, and is still his 'alien' number although he had been a citizen for some years already. I was married with only the old numbers, and that certificate was also easy to obtain. Furthermore, if you have a date and a place you can get much earlier certificates from Home Affairs (I received my parents-in-law's marriage certificate from 1943, without any numbers at all) here by us (KZN) Home affairs seems very jacked up. If you live near Pretoria I can give you some addresses where documents are easy to obtain. Gerda Pieterse Richards Bay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desre Bean" <dezbean@gmail.com> To: <shayes@dunelm.org.uk>; <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Old South African ID numbers > The number I have is on her death certificate. > ID 348/784 299 > > Her brothers ID was 324 886644W. > I am not sure how the ID number use to work.. > > On 14 Nov 2011, at 16:09, Steve Hayes wrote: > >> On 14 Nov 2011 at 11:06, Desre Bean wrote: >> >>> I have a Old ID number for my grandmother.... how useful is it to have? >>> Would >>> i be able to trace birth and marriage certificates with it? >> >> Not really. >> >> It might be able to show where she was living in the 1951 census, though, >> if >> you could find a key to the numbers and districts. >> >> >> -- >> Steve Hayes >> E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk >> Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) >> Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com >> Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 >> Fax: 086-548-2525 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Gerda, Unfortunately I live in England so it would be a bit difficult for me to get to the Home affairs. I have been trying for so many years to get info on my Grandmother side of the family and I am running out of ideas. The marriage certificate that you received were there parents names on it. Or did you have to tell them the names before you ordered the certificate? By the way I am from Richards Bay, what a small world this is.. Regards Desre On 14 Nov 2011, at 18:01, Gerda gmail wrote: > Maybe I am a bit late for this reply, but I have just received my father's > information from Home Affairs and he never had the new number - in fact his > number doesn't even convey that he was a citizen yet, and is still his > 'alien' number although he had been a citizen for some years already. > > I was married with only the old numbers, and that certificate was also easy > to obtain. > > Furthermore, if you have a date and a place you can get much earlier > certificates from Home Affairs (I received my parents-in-law's marriage > certificate from 1943, without any numbers at all) > > here by us (KZN) Home affairs seems very jacked up. If you live near > Pretoria I can give you some addresses where documents are easy to obtain. > > Gerda Pieterse > Richards Bay > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Desre Bean" <dezbean@gmail.com> > To: <shayes@dunelm.org.uk>; <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Old South African ID numbers > > >> The number I have is on her death certificate. >> ID 348/784 299 >> >> Her brothers ID was 324 886644W. >> I am not sure how the ID number use to work.. >> >> On 14 Nov 2011, at 16:09, Steve Hayes wrote: >> >>> On 14 Nov 2011 at 11:06, Desre Bean wrote: >>> >>>> I have a Old ID number for my grandmother.... how useful is it to have? >>>> Would >>>> i be able to trace birth and marriage certificates with it? >>> >>> Not really. >>> >>> It might be able to show where she was living in the 1951 census, though, >>> if >>> you could find a key to the numbers and districts. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Steve Hayes >>> E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk >>> Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) >>> Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com >>> Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 >>> Fax: 086-548-2525 >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On 14 Nov 2011 at 11:06, Desre Bean wrote: > I have a Old ID number for my grandmother.... how useful is it to have? Would > i be able to trace birth and marriage certificates with it? Not really. It might be able to show where she was living in the 1951 census, though, if you could find a key to the numbers and districts. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525
The number I have is on her death certificate. ID 348/784 299 Her brothers ID was 324 886644W. I am not sure how the ID number use to work.. On 14 Nov 2011, at 16:09, Steve Hayes wrote: > On 14 Nov 2011 at 11:06, Desre Bean wrote: > >> I have a Old ID number for my grandmother.... how useful is it to have? Would >> i be able to trace birth and marriage certificates with it? > > Not really. > > It might be able to show where she was living in the 1951 census, though, if > you could find a key to the numbers and districts. > > > -- > Steve Hayes > E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk > Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) > Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com > Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 > Fax: 086-548-2525 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Gerda I would love to have the addresses you are offering in Pretoria I too have an old ID number for my grandmother - it has a similar format to the ones below Thank you so much Marcella FINDLAY Shames On Nov 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Desre Bean wrote: > Hi Gerda, > > Unfortunately I live in England so it would be a bit difficult for me to get to the Home affairs. > I have been trying for so many years to get info on my Grandmother side of the family and I am running out of ideas. > > The marriage certificate that you received were there parents names on it. Or did you have to tell them the names before you ordered the certificate? > > By the way I am from Richards Bay, what a small world this is.. > > Regards > Desre > > On 14 Nov 2011, at 18:01, Gerda gmail wrote: > >> Maybe I am a bit late for this reply, but I have just received my father's >> information from Home Affairs and he never had the new number - in fact his >> number doesn't even convey that he was a citizen yet, and is still his >> 'alien' number although he had been a citizen for some years already. >> >> I was married with only the old numbers, and that certificate was also easy >> to obtain. >> >> Furthermore, if you have a date and a place you can get much earlier >> certificates from Home Affairs (I received my parents-in-law's marriage >> certificate from 1943, without any numbers at all) >> >> here by us (KZN) Home affairs seems very jacked up. If you live near >> Pretoria I can give you some addresses where documents are easy to obtain. >> >> Gerda Pieterse >> Richards Bay >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Desre Bean" <dezbean@gmail.com> >> To: <shayes@dunelm.org.uk>; <south-africa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 6:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Old South African ID numbers >> >> >>> The number I have is on her death certificate. >>> ID 348/784 299 >>> >>> Her brothers ID was 324 886644W. >>> I am not sure how the ID number use to work.. >>> >>> On 14 Nov 2011, at 16:09, Steve Hayes wrote: >>> >>>> On 14 Nov 2011 at 11:06, Desre Bean wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have a Old ID number for my grandmother.... how useful is it to have? >>>>> Would >>>>> i be able to trace birth and marriage certificates with it? >>>> >>>> Not really. >>>> >>>> It might be able to show where she was living in the 1951 census, though, >>>> if >>>> you could find a key to the numbers and districts. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Steve Hayes >>>> E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk >>>> Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) >>>> Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com >>>> Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 >>>> Fax: 086-548-2525 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear listers I have a Old ID number for my grandmother.... how useful is it to have? Would i be able to trace birth and marriage certificates with it? Thanks Desre
Do you mean the "book of life" number that was issued from about 1970? If so, the first few numbers are the birth date: yymmdd. Race used to be encoded in the number, but that was changed some years ago. I am not aware of any encoding in the previous ID number. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:07:20 AM EST From: Desre Bean <dezbean@gmail.com> To: SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Old South African ID numbers Dear listers I have a Old ID number for my grandmother.... how useful is it to have? Would i be able to trace birth and marriage certificates with it? Thanks Desre ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi, 690802 5462 081 is an id number. The ID number code is: 690802 - date of birth 1969 August 02 5462 - above 5000 is male and below is female 0 - If 0 SA born if 1 born out of SA 8 - used to be the race denominator now just a check number 1 - check code or number Hope this helps, Cheers, Karel Marais Marais x Thurnau, Lloyd x Pienaar, Bennett x Cloete, Webber x Maskrey, Kapp x Slabbert, Bestbier x Du Toit ________________________________ From: Keith Meintjes <umfundi@usa.net> To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011, 15:14 Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Old South African ID numbers Do you mean the "book of life" number that was issued from about 1970? If so, the first few numbers are the birth date: yymmdd. Race used to be encoded in the number, but that was changed some years ago. I am not aware of any encoding in the previous ID number. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:07:20 AM EST From: Desre Bean <dezbean@gmail.com> To: SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Old South African ID numbers Dear listers I have a Old ID number for my grandmother.... how useful is it to have? Would i be able to trace birth and marriage certificates with it? Thanks Desre ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
One of the minor mysteries of Natal history in the 1850s has been the identity of a mysterious Alfred Francis Dawson, who is described in Shelagh OByrne Spencers British Settlers In Natal: "Wine merchant. Dawson and his wife Octavia (?c. 1832-24 May 1852, Durban) emigrated to Natal on the Dreadnought. There are many unanswered questions about this family. To begin with, it is uncertain as to what their surname was Dawson or Francis. In the burial register of St Pauls there is an entry for their son Frederick, dated Mar 1850. The child was buried under the name Dawson, but an asterisk has been put next to the surname and the annotation Francis not Dawson has been added, and signed by Revd W.H.C. Lloyd. The other entries in the St Pauls registers (Apr 1851, Jan 1852 and May 1852) all give the surname Francis. Despite this, Dawson went by the name Dawson in Durban society. The only inkling of anything different comes in a letter from Thomas Roberts, J.C. Byrnes confidential clerk, to the Government in Nov 1850, in which he refers to Mr Dawson alias Francis (Spencer 1989:93 ff)." I think we have now solved the mystery of his identity - see here: http://wp.me/pfvXY-cT -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525
Hi. Can some kind soul please tell me what the "Louvre" is (or was) in Plein Street? I apologise, but I don't know if that is Plein Street in Pretoria, or Cape Town or elsewhere. I have found some of my relative's correspondence with the Office of the Governor General, the Office of the Prime Minister, and the Earl of Athlone (High Commissioner), from the late 1920s. In her letters, she writes about a Mrs Metcalfe of the "Louvre" Pretoria. I have managed to find two references to the "Louvre" in the NAAIRS database, from the Cape Town Archives Repository, which don't appear to be referring to someone called "Louvre" or the Louvre in Paris, or louvre blinds for windows. There are loads of those, but these two seem to be refer to a place or a building or possibly a company in South Africa. I'd be very grateful for any light that could be shed on this. Thanks & best wishes, John Wynne Cheshire, UK DEPOT KAB SOURCE 3/CT TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 4/2/1/1/3 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 371/1904 PART 1 DESCRIPTION: RATS, THE LOUVRE, PLEIN STREET. STARTING 1904 ENDING 1904 DEPOT KAB SOURCE 3/CT TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 4/2/1/1/98 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 638/11 PART 1 DESCRIPTION: PLANS OF "THE LOUVRE", PLEIN STREET. STARTING 1911 ENDING 1911
On 12 Nov 2011, at 4:31 AM, Sonia van Heerden wrote: > I have another surname that is puzzling me. > > My records indicate that Heinrich WEYERS (or Weyer HENDRIKS) was > born ca 1680 in either Eppe, Germany or Netherlands, christened in > 1700. He arrived in SA 1702 on the Oostersteen, married May 1, 1718 > to (Elsje) Anna Elisabeth GERRITSDOCHTER, daughter of Caspar > GERRITS (GERRYTS) and Elsie (Elisabeth) (PYL) SPELDENBERG. He was a > soldier and burger 1714, had 3 daughters. > > Can anyone advise me whether he was in fact from the Netherlands or > Germany? > > Sonia > Toronto, Canada Epe is in Germany, but only maybe 10 kilometres SSE of Enschede in the Netherlands. The western border of German has been changed a number of times, even after World War I when a slab of territory was taken from Germany and added to Belgium in exchange for Belgium ceding a similar slice surrounding Dunkerk to France. (Its Flemish name was Duinekerke, "the Church on the Dunes", and its current name is Dunkerque, a curious hybrid spelling.) There are still a few Flemish-named villages remaining in France: for example, Marck, just west of Dunkirk; the village of Oost-Duinekerke is in Belgium. That change was made linguistic grounds, the population being more French than Flemish-speaking, but to this day perhaps 10% of Belgium's population is German-speaking. I don't know whether similar changes occurred with the Dutch border, bearing in mind that the Dutch were on the German side in that war, but Epe could possibly be of partly German character; nevertheless it is now in Germany. If you have a map, it's just a little way off the A31. It needs to be borne in mind that "Germany", as a political entity, only came into existence in 1871 after the Franco-Prussian War; it was whittled down from around 360 separate princely States before the French Revolution to its present number of around 13 or 14. The main phases were: some amalgamations after the French Revolutionary Wars, more consolidation after the Franco-Prussian War when Austria was squeezed out because of its control of huge non-German-speaking countries, and the further changes when Austria, also on the losing side, was stripped of most of its territory after World War I by the granting of autonomy to those countries as Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, etc (and those countries have been further dismembered by ethnic squabbles since Soviet control collapsed). As an aside, there are also people known as "Pennsylvania Dutch": these are actually descendants of German immigrants. Indeed, the word "Dutch" has a clear etymological link to Deutsch which means "German". So both terms have to be used carefully in the context of the times you are talking about. Andrew Rodger rodgera@audioio.com
A huge thank you to you all, I have just come home from my local cemetery, taking photographs as usual for orders, and called over to the BENNETT grave and saw Charles A. Bennett details again. I have forwarded the photograph of the headstone to family, I can imagine their surprise when seeing the name. they will be delighted.. I did email the Embassy in Wellington the other day. still waiting for a response, same day I subscribed to this list. but will write them a letter. More official that way. Now my cousin was visiting South Africa the other year, looking for an ancestors grave, but I said to him, bet there isn't a headstone, so will find out where he went, as our ancestors were Benedictine Monks from Ampleforth Monastery in Yorkshire, not all entered the Order, or my cousin and I would not be here today, the name is PENTONY. I visited Ampleforth on my return home in 2004.. lovely place.. Know Norfolk very well.seeing one of the subscribers from there.. am ex South Londoner.. So a huge thank you once again. I don't think Charles Bennett was in Boer War.. but time will tell. is the Steve Watt from British War Graves by chance, as I have sent them lots of military photographs from this region in NZ. Adele Pentony-Graham Clareville. NZ
Steve is a retired teacher and the author of "In Memoriam". He does have a connection with the British War Graves Commission. John Natal Inland Family History Society -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adele Sent: 12 November 2011 12:41 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] NZ calling A huge thank you to you all, I have just come home from my local cemetery, taking photographs as usual for orders, and called over to the BENNETT grave and saw Charles A. Bennett details again. I have forwarded the photograph of the headstone to family, I can imagine their surprise when seeing the name. they will be delighted.. I did email the Embassy in Wellington the other day. still waiting for a response, same day I subscribed to this list. but will write them a letter. More official that way. Now my cousin was visiting South Africa the other year, looking for an ancestors grave, but I said to him, bet there isn't a headstone, so will find out where he went, as our ancestors were Benedictine Monks from Ampleforth Monastery in Yorkshire, not all entered the Order, or my cousin and I would not be here today, the name is PENTONY. I visited Ampleforth on my return home in 2004.. lovely place.. Know Norfolk very well.seeing one of the subscribers from there.. am ex South Londoner.. So a huge thank you once again. I don't think Charles Bennett was in Boer War.. but time will tell. is the Steve Watt from British War Graves by chance, as I have sent them lots of military photographs from this region in NZ. Adele Pentony-Graham Clareville. NZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4610 - Release Date: 11/11/11
Sonia, In SAG 16 p. 256 we have: Heinrich Weyers arrived from Epe Netherlands 1702. The acknowledgement is to Hoge: Personalia of the Germans at the Cape. Possibly he was German, but sailed from the Netherlands? Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:39:00 PM EST From: Sonia van Heerden <soniavh11@hotmail.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Weyers I have another surname that is puzzling me. My records indicate that Heinrich WEYERS (or Weyer HENDRIKS) was born ca 1680 in either Eppe, Germany or Netherlands, christened in 1700. He arrived in SA 1702 on the Oostersteen, married May 1, 1718 to (Elsje) Anna Elisabeth GERRITSDOCHTER, daughter of Caspar GERRITS (GERRYTS) and Elsie (Elisabeth) (PYL) SPELDENBERG. He was a soldier and burger 1714, had 3 daughters. Can anyone advise me whether he was in fact from the Netherlands or Germany? Sonia Toronto, Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have another surname that is puzzling me. My records indicate that Heinrich WEYERS (or Weyer HENDRIKS) was born ca 1680 in either Eppe, Germany or Netherlands, christened in 1700. He arrived in SA 1702 on the Oostersteen, married May 1, 1718 to (Elsje) Anna Elisabeth GERRITSDOCHTER, daughter of Caspar GERRITS (GERRYTS) and Elsie (Elisabeth) (PYL) SPELDENBERG. He was a soldier and burger 1714, had 3 daughters. Can anyone advise me whether he was in fact from the Netherlands or Germany? Sonia Toronto, Canada
One of our local lads went to South Africa, sadly died in 6th January.1902. We assume he was not with the soldiers for Boer War, as cannot find him listed from New Zealand. He was 36 years old. Was he married. Has he a headstone> if so perhaps we could find out more about his death on it? He was from Carterton. New Zealand. >From the family plot at Clareville Cemetery, Carterton, its hard to decipher, with old lead lettering, he is mentioned on it, it looks like DUNBAN, would this be DURBAN? If so, is there any way I can get a death certificate on behalf of the family please, as like me, they have no idea what happened to him, why did he go to South Africa.and/or can we find his grave and perhaps he has a headstone? Thanks in anticipation. Adele Pentony-Graham Clareville Taphophile group (Taphophile is someone interested in headstones)
Hi Richard, I have asked Steve Watt to look him up on his military graves database. But obviously if he was not military we need to look elsewhere. John -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ball Sent: 10 November 2011 08:42 PM To: Adele Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Charles Alfred Bennett Hello Adele, A> One of our local lads went to South Africa, sadly died in 6th A> January.1902. We assume he was not with the soldiers for Boer War, A> as cannot find him listed from New Zealand. He was 36 years old. A> Has he a headstone if so perhaps we could find out more about his A> death on it? Yes, he has, and no, afraid you can't. Only a tiny picture but it states only Charles A Bennett, a native of New Zealand, died Jan 6th 190[2] http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1002750 A> If so, is there any way I can get a death certificate on behalf of the A> family please, as like me, they have no idea what happened to him You can apply for one through the South African Embassy in New Zealand, but I understand the process can be very slow indeed. Richard -- Richard Ball, Norfolk, England http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk richard.ball@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4608 - Release Date: 11/10/11
Hello Adele, A> One of our local lads went to South Africa, sadly died in 6th A> January.1902. We assume he was not with the soldiers for Boer War, A> as cannot find him listed from New Zealand. He was 36 years old. A> Has he a headstone if so perhaps we could find out more about his A> death on it? Yes, he has, and no, afraid you can't. Only a tiny picture but it states only Charles A Bennett, a native of New Zealand, died Jan 6th 190[2] http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1002750 A> If so, is there any way I can get a death certificate on behalf of the A> family please, as like me, they have no idea what happened to him You can apply for one through the South African Embassy in New Zealand, but I understand the process can be very slow indeed. Richard -- Richard Ball, Norfolk, England http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk richard.ball@ballfamilyrecords.co.uk