Sorry, Not in any of my books. Maybe in the next volume of "British Settlers", if it is ever published. Best wishes, Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:22:11 AM EST From: "Michele Shaw" <sunshine.shaw@telkomsa.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups - NATAL Hi Keith, PLEASE PLEASE could you help me with: NATAL: Harrison in particular William Harrison, he was born 22 Nov 1857 in Sussex England. I'm not sure what date he came to SA but married here in June of 1891 to Martha Louisa Hart. I would so appreciate any information on him. Kind regards Michele Shaw ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fingers are duly rapped! I think I have exhausted the NAAIRS info. I was hoping for something more. Regards, Rob -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 18 December 2011 08:08 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups: SCRUTTON Hey, Rob: i before e, except in Keith and in Meintjes. ;-) Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:53:29 AM EST From: "Rob Jones" <rob@robjones.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups: SCRUTTON Thanks Kieth. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Keith, I would also appreciate a scanned copy on the SUTTONS - thanks, Glynis -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 18 December 2011 08:18 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" Scanned and sent! Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:06:51 AM EST From: "Graham and Jennifer Lloyd" <lacey@yebo.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" Hi Keith I am very interested in the Suttons and would appreciate the info. Many thanks for sharing. Cheers Jennifer Graham & Jennifer Lloyd [Genealogical & Historical Research] 2 Constantia Court River's End Road Plumstead 7800 Cape Town South Africa Tel: +0027 (0)21 7974875 Mobile: 0824037343 email: lacey@yebo.co.za www.southafricanfamily.com I'm not stuck, I'm Ancestrally challenged Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass It's about learning to dance in the rain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:26 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" > Hi, Nolene. > > "Overberg Origins" was published in 1988. It says it "aims to record the > stamvaders and descendants of those families in this old town who were not > included by C.C. de Villiers in his genealogical classic ..." > > Here is a list of the families included in "Overberg Origins": > > Barry > Burrows > Carncross > Devenish > Emett > Hodgson > Hopley > Kennedy > Moodie > Reid > Reitz > Robertson > Schreiner > Sutton > Tilney > Whyte > > It looks like we do not have any of your people. But, I must say, for > those > included, the genealogies are quite nice. > > Best wishes, > > Keith > > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:45:11 PM EST > From: "Nolene Lossau" <nolene@mweb.co.za> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com>, "'SA List'" <SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups - Swellendam > > Hi Keith > > > I would appreciate lookup in > Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund > H.Burrows. > > I have the following "English" families in my direct line who were based > in > SWELLENDAM > > DAVIES - Thomas & Sophia (CHILDS)from London - arrived circa 1826 - 1828 - > My direct line is Francis DAVIES, Thomas's son who married Catharina > LAMBERT. > > LAMBERT (Irish origin) - William & Johanna (CLARK) - I have never been > able > to find baptisms for any of their children - I think they may have been > Catholic? > > Related names (not my direct line) in Swellendam are: > > SMITH > GARDNER > KELLY > > Any bits of info on these name will be greatly appreciated. I have full > set > of SAG volumes and have extracted all I can from them........... > > Thanks > Nolene > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Meintjes [mailto:umfundi@usa.net] > Sent: 17 December 2011 08:23 AM > To: SA List > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups > > All, > > As I have done in many years past, I am pleased to offer genealogy advice > and > lookups over the holiday season. Here are some of my newest sources: > > Voortrekkerstamouers 1835-1845 by Jan C. Visagie. 2nd Edition. This is a > truly outstanding work. My admiration for Prof. Visagie has no bounds. > > British Settlers in Natal 1824- 1857 by Shelagh O'Byrne Spencer. 7 > volumes, > A > - Guy. > > Acutts in Africa by Yvonne Miller. I have a second copy of this book, in > very > good condition, for sale. > > Rudman Register and related families. Erasmus, Pote, Kirch > > van Lingen Stamregister > > Die Familie Bruwer, Fayers Marie Williams > > Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund H. > Burrows. > > The Murray Family Registry 1794 - 1977. Caroline Murray. > > Van Riga tot Drakenstein, die Verhaal van Eduart Christiaan Haumann en sy > Nasate, Riel Hauman > > Geslagsregister Coertse(n), Prof. Dr. PJ Coertze > > Heatlies in South Africa, Charles Hugo Heatlie > > Rabie - Rabe, Grebe, Rabe and Rabie > > Die Neethlings in Suid-Afrika, EM Neethling > > 1820 Settler James Mundell and his Descendants, Hilda Mary Corrin > > Die Familie Krige, JD Krige > > Kalm Maar Koppig, Die Familie BOJE en Aanverwante Families, JG (John) > Boje. > > > Let me know. Please be as specific as you can. > > Best wishes, > > Keith > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for your explanation Petrus, now it makes sense. Regards from a cold Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Petrus Fourie Sent: December-18-11 7:34 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] question regarding entries in LDS records Good Afternoon, It just mean that it was the "Veldkornet" 's name. This was a person which in a commando type of service had a certain area with a few farms which where under his supervision/command? and the family came from a farm in the area of which he was the "Veldkornet". This Veldcornet was also chosen by the people if I am correct. Regards Petrus On 12/18/11, A. Labuschagne <snowgoose-al@shaw.ca> wrote: > Is there anyone that can help me with the following question > > > > This is one of the entries in the 1844-1894 Baptisms records > > > > Kind & Veldcornet Gebore Gedoopt > Ouders Doopgetuige > > > > Anna Magdalena Sept 8 1851 March 7 1852 > Gerrit Jacobus Snyman the names of the 6 witnesses > > > Catharina Dorothea Botes > > P. Kruger > > > > I understand all the entries in the other columns but not the entry in > the first column. This P. Kruger was listed in the first column in > quite a few entries on the same page and also on other pages. > > > > A. Labuschagne > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Keith I am very interested in the Suttons and would appreciate the info. Many thanks for sharing. Cheers Jennifer Graham & Jennifer Lloyd [Genealogical & Historical Research] 2 Constantia Court River's End Road Plumstead 7800 Cape Town South Africa Tel: +0027 (0)21 7974875 Mobile: 0824037343 email: lacey@yebo.co.za www.southafricanfamily.com I'm not stuck, I'm Ancestrally challenged Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass It's about learning to dance in the rain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:26 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" > Hi, Nolene. > > "Overberg Origins" was published in 1988. It says it "aims to record the > stamvaders and descendants of those families in this old town who were not > included by C.C. de Villiers in his genealogical classic ..." > > Here is a list of the families included in "Overberg Origins": > > Barry > Burrows > Carncross > Devenish > Emett > Hodgson > Hopley > Kennedy > Moodie > Reid > Reitz > Robertson > Schreiner > Sutton > Tilney > Whyte > > It looks like we do not have any of your people. But, I must say, for > those > included, the genealogies are quite nice. > > Best wishes, > > Keith > > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:45:11 PM EST > From: "Nolene Lossau" <nolene@mweb.co.za> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com>, "'SA List'" <SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups - Swellendam > > Hi Keith > > > I would appreciate lookup in > Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund > H.Burrows. > > I have the following "English" families in my direct line who were based > in > SWELLENDAM > > DAVIES - Thomas & Sophia (CHILDS)from London - arrived circa 1826 - 1828 - > My direct line is Francis DAVIES, Thomas's son who married Catharina > LAMBERT. > > LAMBERT (Irish origin) - William & Johanna (CLARK) - I have never been > able > to find baptisms for any of their children - I think they may have been > Catholic? > > Related names (not my direct line) in Swellendam are: > > SMITH > GARDNER > KELLY > > Any bits of info on these name will be greatly appreciated. I have full > set > of SAG volumes and have extracted all I can from them........... > > Thanks > Nolene > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Meintjes [mailto:umfundi@usa.net] > Sent: 17 December 2011 08:23 AM > To: SA List > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups > > All, > > As I have done in many years past, I am pleased to offer genealogy advice > and > lookups over the holiday season. Here are some of my newest sources: > > Voortrekkerstamouers 1835-1845 by Jan C. Visagie. 2nd Edition. This is a > truly outstanding work. My admiration for Prof. Visagie has no bounds. > > British Settlers in Natal 1824- 1857 by Shelagh O'Byrne Spencer. 7 > volumes, > A > - Guy. > > Acutts in Africa by Yvonne Miller. I have a second copy of this book, in > very > good condition, for sale. > > Rudman Register and related families. Erasmus, Pote, Kirch > > van Lingen Stamregister > > Die Familie Bruwer, Fayers Marie Williams > > Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund H. > Burrows. > > The Murray Family Registry 1794 - 1977. Caroline Murray. > > Van Riga tot Drakenstein, die Verhaal van Eduart Christiaan Haumann en sy > Nasate, Riel Hauman > > Geslagsregister Coertse(n), Prof. Dr. PJ Coertze > > Heatlies in South Africa, Charles Hugo Heatlie > > Rabie - Rabe, Grebe, Rabe and Rabie > > Die Neethlings in Suid-Afrika, EM Neethling > > 1820 Settler James Mundell and his Descendants, Hilda Mary Corrin > > Die Familie Krige, JD Krige > > Kalm Maar Koppig, Die Familie BOJE en Aanverwante Families, JG (John) > Boje. > > > Let me know. Please be as specific as you can. > > Best wishes, > > Keith > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Kieth. -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 18 December 2011 05:16 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups: SCRUTTON ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 01:43:56 AM EST From: "Rob Jones" <rob@robjones.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups Dear Kieth. I would be very interested in the Scrutton Family of Swellendam. Joseph Scrutton and his son Frederick von Blucher Scrutton. I wonder if they are mentioned in The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Regards, Rob Rob, They are not mentioned in the Swellendam book. In SA Genealogies 11 p. 212 there is a short entry for Frederick Blucker Scrutton, his wife, and three daughters. If you look at the SA Archives (NAAIRS), there are a lot of documents. Best wishes, Keith ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there anyone that can help me with the following question This is one of the entries in the 1844-1894 Baptisms records Kind & Veldcornet Gebore Gedoopt Ouders Doopgetuige Anna Magdalena Sept 8 1851 March 7 1852 Gerrit Jacobus Snyman the names of the 6 witnesses Catharina Dorothea Botes P. Kruger I understand all the entries in the other columns but not the entry in the first column. This P. Kruger was listed in the first column in quite a few entries on the same page and also on other pages. A. Labuschagne

Hi Keith I would appreciate lookup in Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund H.Burrows. I have the following "English" families in my direct line who were based in SWELLENDAM DAVIES - Thomas & Sophia (CHILDS)from London - arrived circa 1826 - 1828 - My direct line is Francis DAVIES, Thomas's son who married Catharina LAMBERT. LAMBERT (Irish origin) - William & Johanna (CLARK) - I have never been able to find baptisms for any of their children - I think they may have been Catholic? Related names (not my direct line) in Swellendam are: SMITH GARDNER KELLY Any bits of info on these name will be greatly appreciated. I have full set of SAG volumes and have extracted all I can from them........... Thanks Nolene -----Original Message----- From: Keith Meintjes [mailto:umfundi@usa.net] Sent: 17 December 2011 08:23 AM To: SA List Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups All, As I have done in many years past, I am pleased to offer genealogy advice and lookups over the holiday season. Here are some of my newest sources: Voortrekkerstamouers 1835-1845 by Jan C. Visagie. 2nd Edition. This is a truly outstanding work. My admiration for Prof. Visagie has no bounds. British Settlers in Natal 1824- 1857 by Shelagh O'Byrne Spencer. 7 volumes, A - Guy. Acutts in Africa by Yvonne Miller. I have a second copy of this book, in very good condition, for sale. Rudman Register and related families. Erasmus, Pote, Kirch van Lingen Stamregister Die Familie Bruwer, Fayers Marie Williams Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund H. Burrows. The Murray Family Registry 1794 - 1977. Caroline Murray. Van Riga tot Drakenstein, die Verhaal van Eduart Christiaan Haumann en sy Nasate, Riel Hauman Geslagsregister Coertse(n), Prof. Dr. PJ Coertze Heatlies in South Africa, Charles Hugo Heatlie Rabie - Rabe, Grebe, Rabe and Rabie Die Neethlings in Suid-Afrika, EM Neethling 1820 Settler James Mundell and his Descendants, Hilda Mary Corrin Die Familie Krige, JD Krige Kalm Maar Koppig, Die Familie BOJE en Aanverwante Families, JG (John) Boje. Let me know. Please be as specific as you can. Best wishes, Keith

Scanned and sent! Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:06:51 AM EST From: "Graham and Jennifer Lloyd" <lacey@yebo.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" Hi Keith I am very interested in the Suttons and would appreciate the info. Many thanks for sharing. Cheers Jennifer Graham & Jennifer Lloyd [Genealogical & Historical Research] 2 Constantia Court River's End Road Plumstead 7800 Cape Town South Africa Tel: +0027 (0)21 7974875 Mobile: 0824037343 email: lacey@yebo.co.za www.southafricanfamily.com I'm not stuck, I'm Ancestrally challenged Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass It's about learning to dance in the rain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:26 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" > Hi, Nolene. > > "Overberg Origins" was published in 1988. It says it "aims to record the > stamvaders and descendants of those families in this old town who were not > included by C.C. de Villiers in his genealogical classic ..." > > Here is a list of the families included in "Overberg Origins": > > Barry > Burrows > Carncross > Devenish > Emett > Hodgson > Hopley > Kennedy > Moodie > Reid > Reitz > Robertson > Schreiner > Sutton > Tilney > Whyte > > It looks like we do not have any of your people. But, I must say, for > those > included, the genealogies are quite nice. > > Best wishes, > > Keith > > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:45:11 PM EST > From: "Nolene Lossau" <nolene@mweb.co.za> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com>, "'SA List'" <SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups - Swellendam > > Hi Keith > > > I would appreciate lookup in > Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund > H.Burrows. > > I have the following "English" families in my direct line who were based > in > SWELLENDAM > > DAVIES - Thomas & Sophia (CHILDS)from London - arrived circa 1826 - 1828 - > My direct line is Francis DAVIES, Thomas's son who married Catharina > LAMBERT. > > LAMBERT (Irish origin) - William & Johanna (CLARK) - I have never been > able > to find baptisms for any of their children - I think they may have been > Catholic? > > Related names (not my direct line) in Swellendam are: > > SMITH > GARDNER > KELLY > > Any bits of info on these name will be greatly appreciated. I have full > set > of SAG volumes and have extracted all I can from them........... > > Thanks > Nolene > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Meintjes [mailto:umfundi@usa.net] > Sent: 17 December 2011 08:23 AM > To: SA List > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups > > All, > > As I have done in many years past, I am pleased to offer genealogy advice > and > lookups over the holiday season. Here are some of my newest sources: > > Voortrekkerstamouers 1835-1845 by Jan C. Visagie. 2nd Edition. This is a > truly outstanding work. My admiration for Prof. Visagie has no bounds. > > British Settlers in Natal 1824- 1857 by Shelagh O'Byrne Spencer. 7 > volumes, > A > - Guy. > > Acutts in Africa by Yvonne Miller. I have a second copy of this book, in > very > good condition, for sale. > > Rudman Register and related families. Erasmus, Pote, Kirch > > van Lingen Stamregister > > Die Familie Bruwer, Fayers Marie Williams > > Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund H. > Burrows. > > The Murray Family Registry 1794 - 1977. Caroline Murray. > > Van Riga tot Drakenstein, die Verhaal van Eduart Christiaan Haumann en sy > Nasate, Riel Hauman > > Geslagsregister Coertse(n), Prof. Dr. PJ Coertze > > Heatlies in South Africa, Charles Hugo Heatlie > > Rabie - Rabe, Grebe, Rabe and Rabie > > Die Neethlings in Suid-Afrika, EM Neethling > > 1820 Settler James Mundell and his Descendants, Hilda Mary Corrin > > Die Familie Krige, JD Krige > > Kalm Maar Koppig, Die Familie BOJE en Aanverwante Families, JG (John) > Boje. > > > Let me know. Please be as specific as you can. > > Best wishes, > > Keith > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey, Rob: i before e, except in Keith and in Meintjes. ;-) Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:53:29 AM EST From: "Rob Jones" <rob@robjones.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups: SCRUTTON Thanks Kieth.

Found at Amazon.com: Geslagsregister van die familie Bruwer (Genealogie publikasie) (Afrikaans Edition) by Fayers Marie Williams Used: $436.28 I have two copies. Perhaps they should be part of my retirement fund? One copy is for sale. USD $40 postage included in the USA. USD $35 plus postage anywhere else. The book is in excellent condition. A few pages have light pencil underlining of some names. There is a small stamp on the first blank page: JG Boje, 398 MacKenzie Street, Brooklyn, Pretoria, 0181 Keith

Hi, Nolene. "Overberg Origins" was published in 1988. It says it "aims to record the stamvaders and descendants of those families in this old town who were not included by C.C. de Villiers in his genealogical classic ..." Here is a list of the families included in "Overberg Origins": Barry Burrows Carncross Devenish Emett Hodgson Hopley Kennedy Moodie Reid Reitz Robertson Schreiner Sutton Tilney Whyte It looks like we do not have any of your people. But, I must say, for those included, the genealogies are quite nice. Best wishes, Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:45:11 PM EST From: "Nolene Lossau" <nolene@mweb.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com>, "'SA List'" <SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups - Swellendam Hi Keith I would appreciate lookup in Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund H.Burrows. I have the following "English" families in my direct line who were based in SWELLENDAM DAVIES - Thomas & Sophia (CHILDS)from London - arrived circa 1826 - 1828 - My direct line is Francis DAVIES, Thomas's son who married Catharina LAMBERT. LAMBERT (Irish origin) - William & Johanna (CLARK) - I have never been able to find baptisms for any of their children - I think they may have been Catholic? Related names (not my direct line) in Swellendam are: SMITH GARDNER KELLY Any bits of info on these name will be greatly appreciated. I have full set of SAG volumes and have extracted all I can from them........... Thanks Nolene -----Original Message----- From: Keith Meintjes [mailto:umfundi@usa.net] Sent: 17 December 2011 08:23 AM To: SA List Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups All, As I have done in many years past, I am pleased to offer genealogy advice and lookups over the holiday season. Here are some of my newest sources: Voortrekkerstamouers 1835-1845 by Jan C. Visagie. 2nd Edition. This is a truly outstanding work. My admiration for Prof. Visagie has no bounds. British Settlers in Natal 1824- 1857 by Shelagh O'Byrne Spencer. 7 volumes, A - Guy. Acutts in Africa by Yvonne Miller. I have a second copy of this book, in very good condition, for sale. Rudman Register and related families. Erasmus, Pote, Kirch van Lingen Stamregister Die Familie Bruwer, Fayers Marie Williams Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund H. Burrows. The Murray Family Registry 1794 - 1977. Caroline Murray. Van Riga tot Drakenstein, die Verhaal van Eduart Christiaan Haumann en sy Nasate, Riel Hauman Geslagsregister Coertse(n), Prof. Dr. PJ Coertze Heatlies in South Africa, Charles Hugo Heatlie Rabie - Rabe, Grebe, Rabe and Rabie Die Neethlings in Suid-Afrika, EM Neethling 1820 Settler James Mundell and his Descendants, Hilda Mary Corrin Die Familie Krige, JD Krige Kalm Maar Koppig, Die Familie BOJE en Aanverwante Families, JG (John) Boje. Let me know. Please be as specific as you can. Best wishes, Keith ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Colleen, There are lots of matches for the names you asked about. You really should try to find a copy of the book to look at yourself. It should be on the shelf at Protea Boekhuis (Pretoria, Stellenbosch, ...). I paid R 395 earlier this year. While you're at it, B. Cilliers "Genealogiee van die Afrikaner Families in Natal" is also worth looking at. I think I got my copy at Protea. Hard to believe, it cost R160. Best wishes, Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:58:01 AM EST From: Colleen Thorne <colleen.thorne@gmail.com> To: SA List <SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups Dear Keith Thanks for offering lookups and hope you are able to find these names in the Voortrekkerstamouers. I am interested in the names Willem Adriaan LABUSCAGNE, Gerhardus van der MERWE, Sucilea Johanna VILJOEN, Johan David van ASWEGEN, M J and Pieter Jacobus NIEMAND, Fredrika Maria Wilhelmina CONRADIE, Anna Adriana Sophia ELOFF, Johan Christaan, LAMPRECHT, Maria Catharina Jacoba HEUNIS, Nicolaas Willem KLEYNHANS, Maria Geertruyda Stoffelina van LOGGERENBERG, Thank you for your effort and time Colleen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 01:43:56 AM EST From: "Rob Jones" <rob@robjones.co.za> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups Dear Kieth. I would be very interested in the Scrutton Family of Swellendam. Joseph Scrutton and his son Frederick von Blucher Scrutton. I wonder if they are mentioned in The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Regards, Rob Rob, They are not mentioned in the Swellendam book. In SA Genealogies 11 p. 212 there is a short entry for Frederick Blucker Scrutton, his wife, and three daughters. If you look at the SA Archives (NAAIRS), there are a lot of documents. Best wishes, Keith

Dear Keith Thanks for offering lookups and hope you are able to find these names in the Voortrekkerstamouers. I am interested in the names Willem Adriaan LABUSCAGNE, Gerhardus van der MERWE, Sucilea Johanna VILJOEN, Johan David van ASWEGEN, M J and Pieter Jacobus NIEMAND, Fredrika Maria Wilhelmina CONRADIE, Anna Adriana Sophia ELOFF, Johan Christaan, LAMPRECHT, Maria Catharina Jacoba HEUNIS, Nicolaas Willem KLEYNHANS, Maria Geertruyda Stoffelina van LOGGERENBERG, Thank you for your effort and time Colleen

Russell, Yes. Starting on p.10 he is b1 c1 d3 e2. There are four children and two grandchildren. Curiously, he is not listed in SA Genealogies 5 p. 737. I will send photos of the relevant pages. Best wishes. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 02:21:39 AM EST From: <rpcdoc@shaw.ca> To: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups Dear Keith Thanks for the kind offer. In the MUNDELL book, are the descendants of Stanley Ernest MUNDELL listed? Regards Russell

Hi Darryl, I used to run a web site for the Rudman clan. If you are researching the whole Rudman clan, and not just your own Rudman ancestors, please contact me. Email me at Greeff@Greeff.info or Skype me, or email your LANDLINE number to me and I will phone you. Regards, Francois _____________ Francois Greeff, 36 Aston Road, London, SW20 8BE, United Kingdom Phone: 0044 20 8123 4224. Mobile 0044 79 6372 2345. Skype: Greefffrancois. Greeff Family Web Site: www.Greeff.info -----Original Message----- From: Darryl Allwright (Yahoo) [mailto:darryl.allwright@yahoo.com] Sent: 17 December 2011 08:32 To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups Dear Keith   Thank you for offering Lookups   I am interested in the Rudman Family   My search is Charles Henry RUDMAN (I have no dates for DOB, family says Ladybrand, OFS and I presume he died +/- 1940 in Transvaal) he married Anne Mildred ALLWRIGHT and had 3 children. After her death he married a second time. Any info on him would be appreciated.   His sister Sarah Ann RUDMAN married Mildred's brother Aubrey James ALLWRIGHT   Thank you for your effort and time Darryl Allwright ________________________________ From: Keith Meintjes <umfundi@usa.net> To: SA List <SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 8:22 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups All, As I have done in many years past, I am pleased to offer genealogy advice and lookups over the holiday season.  Here are some of my newest sources: Voortrekkerstamouers 1835-1845 by Jan C. Visagie. 2nd Edition.  This is a truly outstanding work.  My admiration for Prof. Visagie has no bounds. British Settlers in Natal 1824- 1857 by Shelagh O'Byrne Spencer.  7 volumes, A - Guy. Acutts in Africa by Yvonne Miller.  I have a second copy of this book, in very good condition, for sale. Rudman Register and related families.  Erasmus, Pote, Kirch van Lingen Stamregister Die Familie Bruwer, Fayers Marie Williams Overberg Origins.  The English-Speaking Swellendam Families.  Edmund H. Burrows. The Murray Family Registry 1794 - 1977. Caroline Murray. Van Riga tot Drakenstein, die Verhaal van Eduart Christiaan Haumann en sy Nasate, Riel Hauman Geslagsregister Coertse(n), Prof. Dr. PJ Coertze Heatlies in South Africa, Charles Hugo Heatlie Rabie - Rabe, Grebe, Rabe and Rabie Die Neethlings in Suid-Afrika, EM Neethling  1820 Settler James Mundell and his Descendants, Hilda Mary Corrin Die Familie Krige, JD Krige Kalm Maar Koppig, Die Familie BOJE en Aanverwante Families, JG (John) Boje. Let me know.  Please be as specific as you can. Best wishes, Keith ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1890 / Virus Database: 2108/4684 - Release Date: 12/16/11

Darryl and Moyra: The RUDMAN family was researched by Janet Melville, and published in 1980. Janet was at the University of Port Elizabeth, but she may have retired. Anyway, Janet also contributed her RUDMAN research to SA Genealogies 10 (2004) where the information seems to be more complete. Charle Henry RUDMAN is on p. 246 of SA Genealogies 10. A son appears to have lived in Rhodesia / Zimbabwe, and there are two daughters. I will send photos of the relevant pages. Clarice Beatrix RUDMAN is on p. 249 of SAG 10. She married Mark WADE, divorced, and remarried Ronald WOOD. Her children are listed in the RUDMAN book. Again, I will send photos. Best wishes, Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 04:17:35 AM EST From: "Darryl Allwright \(Yahoo\)" <darryl.allwright@yahoo.com> To: "south-africa@rootsweb.com" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups Dear Keith   Thank you for offering Lookups   I am interested in the Rudman Family   My search is Charles Henry RUDMAN (I have no dates for DOB, family says Ladybrand, OFS and I presume he died +/- 1940 in Transvaal) he married Anne Mildred ALLWRIGHT and had 3 children. After her death he married a second time. Any info on him would be appreciated.   His sister Sarah Ann RUDMAN married Mildred's brother Aubrey James ALLWRIGHT   Thank you for your effort and time Darryl Allwright

Keith Am interested in FRIEND. Happy Holidays. Tony On Dec 17, 2011, at 4:54 AM, Colleen Thorne wrote: > Dear Keith > > Thanks for offering lookups and hope you are able to find these names in > the Voortrekkerstamouers. > > I am interested in the names Willem Adriaan LABUSCAGNE, Gerhardus van der > MERWE, Sucilea Johanna VILJOEN, Johan David van ASWEGEN, M J and Pieter > Jacobus NIEMAND, Fredrika Maria Wilhelmina CONRADIE, Anna Adriana Sophia > ELOFF, Johan Christaan, LAMPRECHT, Maria Catharina Jacoba HEUNIS, Nicolaas > Willem KLEYNHANS, Maria Geertruyda Stoffelina van LOGGERENBERG, > > Thank you for your effort and time > Colleen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Kieth. I would be very interested in the Scrutton Family of Swellendam. Joseph Scrutton and his son Frederick von Blucher Scrutton. I wonder if they are mentioned in The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Regards, Rob -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 17 December 2011 08:23 AM To: SA List Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups All, As I have done in many years past, I am pleased to offer genealogy advice and lookups over the holiday season. Here are some of my newest sources: Voortrekkerstamouers 1835-1845 by Jan C. Visagie. 2nd Edition. This is a truly outstanding work. My admiration for Prof. Visagie has no bounds. British Settlers in Natal 1824- 1857 by Shelagh O'Byrne Spencer. 7 volumes, A - Guy. Acutts in Africa by Yvonne Miller. I have a second copy of this book, in very good condition, for sale. Rudman Register and related families. Erasmus, Pote, Kirch van Lingen Stamregister Die Familie Bruwer, Fayers Marie Williams Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund H. Burrows. The Murray Family Registry 1794 - 1977. Caroline Murray. Van Riga tot Drakenstein, die Verhaal van Eduart Christiaan Haumann en sy Nasate, Riel Hauman Geslagsregister Coertse(n), Prof. Dr. PJ Coertze Heatlies in South Africa, Charles Hugo Heatlie Rabie - Rabe, Grebe, Rabe and Rabie Die Neethlings in Suid-Afrika, EM Neethling 1820 Settler James Mundell and his Descendants, Hilda Mary Corrin Die Familie Krige, JD Krige Kalm Maar Koppig, Die Familie BOJE en Aanverwante Families, JG (John) Boje. Let me know. Please be as specific as you can. Best wishes, Keith ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message