EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD Port Elizabeth, Friday, December 8, 1944 Births ARCHER – To Mr and Mrs E.C. ARCHER of Commadagga Station, a Daughter, on the 6th December, at the Provincial Hospital. GOODCHILD – To Petty Officer (S.A.N.F.) and Mrs G. GOODCHILD nee (Mary GRONAU), a Daughter, on December 7th, 1944, at Provincial Hospital. THEUNNISEN – To Mr and Mrs C.H. THEUNNISEN, a Son, at the Stonham Nursing Home. WEINRONK – To Dave and Enez (nee GORDON), at the Provincial Hospital, on the 6th December, a Daughter. Barmitzvah ABRAHAM – Phillip, eldest son of Mr and Mrs B. ABRAHAM, will read a portion of the Law and Maftir, at the Western Road Synagogue, on Saturday, 9th December. Engagements CUTHBERT – POTGIETER – The engagement is announced between Doreen Potgieter, the daughter of Mr and Mrs PRESTON of Port Elizabeth, and Pilot Officer Tommy CUTHBERT, the eldest son of Mr and Mrs CUTHBERT of Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, England. Deaths CAMPHER – Died at the Provincial Hospital on the 6th December, 1944, Sophia beloved wife of Abraham CAMPHER at the age of 27 years. The funeral will leave No 1 Attree Street to-day (Friday) at 2.30. p.m. for the North End Cemetery. KIN – Died at 112 Circular Drive, on the 6th December, 1944, Low KIN, at the age of 64 years. The funeral will leave Jones and Rice Chapel, 43 Russell Road, Sunday, at 2 o’clock for the North End Cemetery. LAWSON – Passes peacefully away at Port Elizabeth, after a short illness, Walter LAWSON, in his 58th year. Service in Jones and Rice Chapel, 43 Russell Road, this (Friday) afternoon at 3.45 o’clock thence the funeral will commence to the South End Cemetery. MILNE – Gordon Ross, in his 80th year, O.B.E., Chairman of Life Managing Director of the South African Timber Coy., Ltd., at Salisbury, Southern Rhodesia, on the 7th instant. Roll of Honour. FACER- Lieut. Aubrey William Sullivan, Dive Bomber Pilot, S.A.A.F., killed in action in Italy, on the 5th May, 1944, 20 year’s 11 months, dearly beloved youngest son of MR and Mrs Chas FACER, Uitenhage, and Brother of Sgt.-Major Chas FACER (Italy) and Capt. Walter FACER (Italy). SWART – John William (Jack), aged 21 years, second eldest son of Mr and Mrs James SWART, Jeffreys Bay, killed in Italy, 23 November, 1944, as a result of flying accident. Transcribed by. Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families.

Hi everyone Please note that I have changed my email address. Kindly update your records as my Mweb account will be cancelled shortly. Feel quite sad about this as I still get emails from folk who visit the Archives and answer queries from way back. But our retirement village is going wireless and we will apparently be given 10 Gigs every month including our telephone for a very low price. So it's a no brainer at this point. tck19genie.tessaking@gmail.com May I wish everyone a really blessed Christmas and an awesome 2012 with moments of laughter, lots of love and friends, good health and lasting peace on earth. Thanks Tessa Researching: Wood, Crozier, Dell, King, Ross, Stephenson & Kirk amongst others

To all, My apologies, must remember to wear my glasses! In any event, he lives in Dubai and will use eGGSA. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Where Do I start - !! Smith v Harris need info on mygreart great granfather and a court case Wrong. VAB Depot is in Bloemfontein. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 04:39:11 AM EST From: Colin Möhr <mohr@lantic.net> To: "Irfaan Harris" <irfaan.harris@yahoo.com>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Where Do I start - !! Smith v Harris need info on mygreart great granfather and a court case Dear Ivan, You need to visit the Archives in Pretoria and draw the file ( when they open again in January) OR if this is not possible you can order a digital copy of the file from eGGSA (their online shop) Regards, Colin Mohr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irfaan Harris" <irfaan.harris@yahoo.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:48 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Where Do I start - !! Smith v Harris need info on mygreart great granfather and a court case All the info i have is: DEPOT VAB SOURCE HG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 4/2/1/1/58 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 460/1912 PART 1 DESCRIPTION CIVIL RECORDS. TRIALS AND APPLICATIONS. JACOBUS HENDRIK SMITH VERSUS WILLIAM PETER HARRIS. STARTING 19120000 ENDING I think it may have something to do with a Dairy (Harris-Hartley Dairy) Any help is appreciated. Ivan Harris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You need to visit the Free State archives. They are very helpful and if you email them if they can't help you they can suggest a researcher or alternatively order it through eggsa. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Irfaan Harris <irfaan.harris@yahoo.com> Sender: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:48:01 To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: Irfaan Harris <irfaan.harris@yahoo.com>, south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Where Do I start - !! Smith v Harris need info on my greart great granfather and a court case All the info i have is:   DEPOT VAB SOURCE HG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 4/2/1/1/58 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 460/1912 PART 1 DESCRIPTION CIVIL RECORDS. TRIALS AND APPLICATIONS. JACOBUS HENDRIK SMITH VERSUS WILLIAM PETER HARRIS. STARTING 19120000 ENDING   I think it may have something to do with a Dairy (Harris-Hartley Dairy)   Any help is appreciated.   Ivan Harris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Ivan, You need to visit the Archives in Pretoria and draw the file ( when they open again in January) OR if this is not possible you can order a digital copy of the file from eGGSA (their online shop) Regards, Colin Mohr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irfaan Harris" <irfaan.harris@yahoo.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:48 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Where Do I start - !! Smith v Harris need info on mygreart great granfather and a court case All the info i have is: DEPOT VAB SOURCE HG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 4/2/1/1/58 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 460/1912 PART 1 DESCRIPTION CIVIL RECORDS. TRIALS AND APPLICATIONS. JACOBUS HENDRIK SMITH VERSUS WILLIAM PETER HARRIS. STARTING 19120000 ENDING I think it may have something to do with a Dairy (Harris-Hartley Dairy) Any help is appreciated. Ivan Harris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wrong. VAB Depot is in Bloemfontein. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 04:39:11 AM EST From: Colin Möhr <mohr@lantic.net> To: "Irfaan Harris" <irfaan.harris@yahoo.com>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Where Do I start - !! Smith v Harris need info on mygreart great granfather and a court case Dear Ivan, You need to visit the Archives in Pretoria and draw the file ( when they open again in January) OR if this is not possible you can order a digital copy of the file from eGGSA (their online shop) Regards, Colin Mohr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irfaan Harris" <irfaan.harris@yahoo.com> To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:48 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Where Do I start - !! Smith v Harris need info on mygreart great granfather and a court case All the info i have is: DEPOT VAB SOURCE HG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 4/2/1/1/58 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 460/1912 PART 1 DESCRIPTION CIVIL RECORDS. TRIALS AND APPLICATIONS. JACOBUS HENDRIK SMITH VERSUS WILLIAM PETER HARRIS. STARTING 19120000 ENDING I think it may have something to do with a Dairy (Harris-Hartley Dairy) Any help is appreciated. Ivan Harris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Paul, I have family who have SANDS as their surname. I have helped my cousin with her line. Please contact me as I would love to exchange info. Regards, Glynis -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul le Roux Sent: 21 December 2011 07:36 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" Dear Keith, Is there anything on SANDS? Thanks in anticipation. Paul LE ROUX Paarl LE ROUX x STEMMET MILNS x SANDS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi list Is there an OLIVIER or DU PLESSIS researcher that can perhaps help me find out more about this family (this is all I have on them). Willem Jacobus Olivier no dates that married Johanna Isabella Cornelia DU PLESSIS abt 1893 place unknown. 6 Children - a. Johannes Tieleman *1894 b. Willem Jacobus *1898 c. Sarel Petrus De Wet *1901 d. Elizabeth Susara Christina (Betsy) *1904 e. Johanna Wilhelmina Cornelia *1906 f. Margaretha Maria Cornelia *1909 my grandmother Any help greatly appreciated. Have a Blessed Christmas and a wonderful New Year Best Wishes Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families.

Dear Keith, Is there anything on SANDS? Thanks in anticipation. Paul LE ROUX Paarl LE ROUX x STEMMET MILNS x SANDS

Good Morning, Could anyone researching the KEARNEY family please let me know if they have the parents of Ester Rebecca KEARNEY. I would like to tie her to others in the tree. Regards, Rod g

Hi All   Obituary of Henry TINDALL   Henry TINDALL was borb at Grengley-on-the-Hill in Nottinghamshire on the 30th of March 1831. He arrived in Capetown with his parents in the early part of 1836, and three years later accompanied them to Great Namaqualand where his father had been engaged to assist the Rev. E. COOK in the Wesleyan Mission at Nisbett's Bath. In 1841 he was placed under the tuiuion of the Rev. Holt OKES, D.D., at Wynberg. After a brief stay he joined his parents then in Damaraland, returning to Capetown to attend classes at the South African College in 1848. It was then, when about 17 years of age, under the ministry of Rev. Thomas W. HODGSON, that he definitely decided for Christ and commenced his career of Christian activity and usefulness. He began to preach, and having offered himself for the work of God, he was unanimously recommended as a candidate for the ministry at the Cape of Good Hope District Meeting in 1852, and accepted at the ensuing Conference. As he was fimiliar with the country and the people, and possessed special linguistic qualifications, he was at once appointed to assist his father, the Rev. Joseph TINDALL, then labouring in Great Namaqualand. There he spent three arduous years amid difficulties, dangers and privations that furnished material for many an interesting and instructive public platform speech in later years. With the exception of four years in the Capetown English Circuit, the whole of his active ministry was given to Mission work in the Cape of Good Hope District, for which his thorough knowledge of the Dutch language gave him a special fitness; and by his varied and untiring efforts for the social as well as for the spiritual well being of the people, he left the stamp of a zealous, sagacious and successful missionary on every Circuit in which he was appointed to labour His special knowledge and qualifications enabled him to take an active and leading part in the official work of the District, and in the movement which led up to the formation of the South African Conference. He was one of the first Assistant Secretaries, and in that capacity he continued to act, until his election to the Presidential Chair in 1888, the duties of which he discharged with great with great courtesy and dignity. His Christian character was of a robust manly type, and his mental powers were keen and active. In the administration of affairs he was exceedingly judicious, and his pulpit ministrations were characterised by careful preparation, sound reasoning, and clear practicalexposition. Owing to ill-health he was compelled to retire from the active work of the ministry in 1898, but continued to render valuable assistance,in various ways until within a short time of his decease. Physical weakness gradually overcame him, but his mental faculties maintained all their accustomed alertness, and his interest in the work of the Redeemer's Kingdom remained unabated to the end. After several mont attractive personality that ensured him a hs of of painful weariness and suffering, borne with great fortitude and Christian resignation, he passed to his reward on the 16th July, 1909, in the 78th year of his age, and the 57th of his ministry. Mr. TINDALL was pre-eminently "abrother beloved", genial, sympathetic, catholic-minded, well-informed, an excellent conversationalist, and endowed with a rare sense of humour and a strikingly attractive personality that ensured him a welcome among all classes, and won for him an esteem and affection far beyond the limits of his own denomination. His intimate acquintance with many of the pioneer missionaries of our Church, more particularly in the Cape of Good Hope District, furnished him with a rich fund of historical incident and episode in connection with the inception and development of our work, and his departure severs another, and almost last link with those who laid the foundations of the Wesleyan Methodist Church in this Country. From: Wesleyan Methodist Conference Minutes of 1910   Transcribed by  Darryl Allwright darryl.allwright@yahoo.com

All the info i have is:   DEPOT VAB SOURCE HG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 4/2/1/1/58 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 460/1912 PART 1 DESCRIPTION CIVIL RECORDS. TRIALS AND APPLICATIONS. JACOBUS HENDRIK SMITH VERSUS WILLIAM PETER HARRIS. STARTING 19120000 ENDING   I think it may have something to do with a Dairy (Harris-Hartley Dairy)   Any help is appreciated.   Ivan Harris

  Forwarding this as would be of interest to a  lot of list members   From: Heather MacAlister - Ancestry 24 <heather@ancestry24.co.za> To: "'south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com'" <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:58 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Anglican church records on-line Hi Everyone Just found the first batch of church records on line CPSA Diocese of Natal, Cathedral Church of the Holy Nativity; Parish registers 1849-1976. http://www.historicalpapers.wits.ac.za/index.php?inventory/U/collections&c=AB1649/R/  Only problem is they are not searchable and no zoom option so you need to save almost every image. more can be found here http://www.historicalpapers.wits.ac.za/index.php?digital/U/ cheers Heather Heather MacAlister Channel Manager E  heather@ancestry24.co.za T  +27 (021) 468 8957

Someone said: Try the Buitenposten list to find Janet. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:47:05 AM EST From: Sheena Bass <sheenabass@sundowneroaks.com> To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 374 Thanks for the update on the 2 Charles Henry Rudman's, I will update my records accordingly as well. Janet did some wonderful work but I seem to have lost contact with her of late. If anyone knows where one can make contact with her that would be great.

Hi I would be grateful if someone can please send me a copy of this article. My daughter's partner is the grandson of the brother, Cornelius, of the late State President, Jacobus Johannes Fouche Die voorouers van die voormalige staatspresident Jacobus Johannes Fouché. Familia vol. 12, no. 3, 1975, p.59-60 Many thanks Jennifer Graham & Jennifer Lloyd [Genealogical & Historical Research] 2 Constantia Court River's End Road Plumstead 7800 Cape Town South Africa Tel: +0027 (0)21 7974875 Mobile: 0824037343 email: lacey@yebo.co.za www.southafricanfamily.com I'm not stuck, I'm Ancestrally challenged Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass It's about learning to dance in the rain

Hi I would like to know who the parents of late State President of South Africa, 'Jim' Fouche, were. Grateful thanks Jennifer Graham & Jennifer Lloyd [Genealogical & Historical Research] 2 Constantia Court River's End Road Plumstead 7800 Cape Town South Africa Tel: +0027 (0)21 7974875 Mobile: 0824037343 email: lacey@yebo.co.za www.southafricanfamily.com I'm not stuck, I'm Ancestrally challenged Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass It's about learning to dance in the rain

Hi Keith Thanks for the offer. I'm taking a big chance, if you should perhaps come across any BENEKE, BENECKE or VON BENECKE, could you please forward it to me. Have a Blessed Christmas and a wonderful New Year. Thanking you in advance. Regards Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families.

Hi Keith I would appreciate anything on Emett. Many, many thanks, Debbie Nelson -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 18 December 2011 08:18 To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" Scanned and sent! Keith

Thanks for the update on the 2 Charles Henry Rudman's, I will update my records accordingly as well. Janet did some wonderful work but I seem to have lost contact with her of late. If anyone knows where one can make contact with her that would be great. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:00 AM, <south-africa-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Charles Henry RUDMAN (Lynn MacLeod) > 2. Re: Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" (Ian van Zyl) > 3. SA FAMILIE GESKIEDENIS OP DIE INTERNET (nantes kruger) > 4. Re: SA FAMILIE GESKIEDENIS OP DIE INTERNET (Keith Meintjes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:28:32 +1300 > From: "Lynn MacLeod" <MacLeod.Family@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Charles Henry RUDMAN > To: "Darryl Allwright \(Yahoo\)" <darryl.allwright@yahoo.com>, > <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4278769A5E554817A27A9B9A48096C89@lynnebf7d7be8c> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > HI Daryl > >From Rudman info..ex Janet Melville > Samuel RUDMAN x Ann SPRINGHAM > B5 Samuel Abt. 1834 d 30/8/1902 x King Williams Town 1/12/1862 Sarah Ann > MATTHEWS b 208/2/1840 Ireland d 9/1/1914 > Cl Samuel John b 18/4/1864 x Ester Rebecca KEARNEY > C2 William Arthur b 18/2/1866 > C3 Charles Henry (no date) x Anne Mildred ALLWRIGHT at Tabanchu > C4 Florence Theresa b 1873 d 1943 not married > C5 Ella Frances b 17/7/1875 d 27/7/1963 x Alfred William HARRIS > C6 Sarah Ann x Charles ALLWRIGHT (no dates) > So I would guess he falls between 1866 and 1873. > > Benjamin Jonathan RUDMAN x Julia Ann SLATER > B10 Jonathan Caleb b 29/4/1846 x 21/7/1870 Louisa Jane POTE b 17/1/1852 > C1 Mary Ann Matilda x Hugh LIVINGSTONE > C2 Clara Harriet x Harry BATES > C3 Charlotte Jane x George ROGERS > C4 Oliver Charles x Ellen Magdalena STUMKE > C5 Jonathan Caleb x Mabel Johanna EALES > C6 Charles Henry b 24/12/1883 Uitenhage d 5/3/1939 Crown Hills (55yrs3mths) > x Anna Helana WATSON b 1887 Palmietfontein d 1967 Durban > C7 Ivy May x John Scott HOARE > C8 Irene Kate x Timothy WATSON > C9 Walter Pote d infancy > Take care > Lynn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darryl Allwright (Yahoo)" <darryl.allwright@yahoo.com> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:50 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Charles Henry RUDMAN > > > Hi Keith and Sneena > > I have changed the heading of this post > > Charles Henry b abt 1862 d +/- 1940 s/o Samuel RUDMAN and Sarah MATTHEWS > married Annie Mildred ALLWRIGHT) d/o James Jay Eva ALLWRIGHT and Margaret > Ann EDWARDS) 28 March 1907 Thaba Nchu, Orange Free State. Annie Mildred > died > 25 March 1920 'Spitskop', Ladybrand. Had 3 children 1 son died in Rhodesia > and two daughters. He then married Anna Johanna EEDES nee KUYS in Vryburg, > b > 1866, Caledon, Cape Provonce d 27 March 1950, Pretoria (Her first Husband > was Charles Henry EEDES) > > There is definitely two Charles Henry RUDMANs > > I just need to clarify the dates of my Charles Henry. His Death I have from > Anna Johanna RUDMAN's DN TAB MHG 1927/1950 (however it does not give an > exact date) > > Darryl Allwright > > > ________________________________ > From: Keith Meintjes <umfundi@usa.net> > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:56 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 367 > > Sheena, > > What you say does not agree with the RUDMAN register or with SA Genealogies > 10 > p. 262-3. > > b10 Johnathan Caleb RUDMAN x Louisa Jane POTE. > .... > c2 Clara Harriet > .... > c7 Charles Henry x Anna Helena WATSON. > > "Sara" may be "Clara". > > Keith > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:23:58 PM EST > From: Sheena Bass <sheenabass@sundowneroaks.com> > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 367 > > I have Charles Henry Rudman married to Anna Helena Watson. This Charles > Henry does not have a sister called Sarah - of couse my research may be > wrong..... this Charles was born in 1883 and died in 1939. He was the son > of Jonathon Caleb Rudman and Juliana Slater. > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:42:24 -0500 > From: Ian van Zyl <ian111@sympatico.ca> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP70DBC66EA39AB6151F249DE6A70@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > hi iAN > > have you seen this ? > L > V > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:26 AM > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lookups - Swellendam "Overberg Origins" > > > > Hi, Nolene. > > > > "Overberg Origins" was published in 1988. It says it "aims to record the > > stamvaders and descendants of those families in this old town who were > not > > included by C.C. de Villiers in his genealogical classic ..." > > > > Here is a list of the families included in "Overberg Origins": > > > > Barry > > Burrows > > Carncross > > Devenish > > Emett > > Hodgson > > Hopley > > Kennedy > > Moodie > > Reid > > Reitz > > Robertson > > Schreiner > > Sutton > > Tilney > > Whyte > > > > It looks like we do not have any of your people. But, I must say, for > > those > > included, the genealogies are quite nice. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Keith > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > Received: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:45:11 PM EST > > From: "Nolene Lossau" <nolene@mweb.co.za> > > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com>, "'SA List'" < > SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups - Swellendam > > > > Hi Keith > > > > > > I would appreciate lookup in > > Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund > > H.Burrows. > > > > I have the following "English" families in my direct line who were based > > in > > SWELLENDAM > > > > DAVIES - Thomas & Sophia (CHILDS)from London - arrived circa 1826 - 1828 > - > > My direct line is Francis DAVIES, Thomas's son who married Catharina > > LAMBERT. > > > > LAMBERT (Irish origin) - William & Johanna (CLARK) - I have never been > > able > > to find baptisms for any of their children - I think they may have been > > Catholic? > > > > Related names (not my direct line) in Swellendam are: > > > > SMITH > > GARDNER > > KELLY > > > > Any bits of info on these name will be greatly appreciated. I have full > > set > > of SAG volumes and have extracted all I can from them........... > > > > Thanks > > Nolene > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Keith Meintjes [mailto:umfundi@usa.net] > > Sent: 17 December 2011 08:23 AM > > To: SA List > > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Keith's Holiday Lookups > > > > All, > > > > As I have done in many years past, I am pleased to offer genealogy advice > > and > > lookups over the holiday season. Here are some of my newest sources: > > > > Voortrekkerstamouers 1835-1845 by Jan C. Visagie. 2nd Edition. This is a > > truly outstanding work. My admiration for Prof. Visagie has no bounds. > > > > British Settlers in Natal 1824- 1857 by Shelagh O'Byrne Spencer. 7 > > volumes, > > A > > - Guy. > > > > Acutts in Africa by Yvonne Miller. I have a second copy of this book, in > > very > > good condition, for sale. > > > > Rudman Register and related families. Erasmus, Pote, Kirch > > > > van Lingen Stamregister > > > > Die Familie Bruwer, Fayers Marie Williams > > > > Overberg Origins. The English-Speaking Swellendam Families. Edmund H. > > Burrows. > > > > The Murray Family Registry 1794 - 1977. Caroline Murray. > > > > Van Riga tot Drakenstein, die Verhaal van Eduart Christiaan Haumann en sy > > Nasate, Riel Hauman > > > > Geslagsregister Coertse(n), Prof. Dr. PJ Coertze > > > > Heatlies in South Africa, Charles Hugo Heatlie > > > > Rabie - Rabe, Grebe, Rabe and Rabie > > > > Die Neethlings in Suid-Afrika, EM Neethling > > > > 1820 Settler James Mundell and his Descendants, Hilda Mary Corrin > > > > Die Familie Krige, JD Krige > > > > Kalm Maar Koppig, Die Familie BOJE en Aanverwante Families, JG (John) > > Boje. > > > > > > Let me know. Please be as specific as you can. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:43:16 +0200 > From: nantes kruger <nantes.kruger@gmail.com> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SA FAMILIE GESKIEDENIS OP DIE INTERNET > To: SAGenealogie@yahoogroups.com > Cc: buitenposten@rootsweb.com, south-africa@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAB5en2LQmVm3JXXuKQhM0vNzA3dAfnyA_f3y0TB53-po1N-V9Q@mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Lyslede > > Eerste keer dat ek http://www.southafrica.info/services/genealogy.htmraakloop, > gee als saam in 'n neutedop. Gaan definitief een van my kortpaaie > (shortcuts) op die rekenaarblad (desktop) word. > > Baie oulik !!! > > -- > Nantes Kruger > Moreleta Park > PRETORIA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 16:51:52 -0500 > From: "Keith Meintjes" <umfundi@usa.net> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SA FAMILIE GESKIEDENIS OP DIE INTERNET > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com>, <SAGenealogie@yahoogroups.com> > Cc: buitenposten@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <191PLsVY10960S01.1324331512@web01.cms.usa.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Nantes, > > Unfortunately, that site is very out of date. > > Keith > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 02:45:21 PM EST > From: nantes kruger <nantes.kruger@gmail.com> > To: SAGenealogie@yahoogroups.comCc: buitenposten@rootsweb.com, > south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SA FAMILIE GESKIEDENIS OP DIE INTERNET > > Hi Lyslede > > Eerste keer dat ek http://www.southafrica.info/services/genealogy.htm > raakloop, > gee als saam in 'n neutedop. Gaan definitief een van my kortpaaie > (shortcuts) op die rekenaarblad (desktop) word. > > Baie oulik !!! > > -- > Nantes Kruger > Moreleta Park > PRETORIA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 374 > ******************************************** > -- Sheena

Hi Lyslede Eerste keer dat ek http://www.southafrica.info/services/genealogy.htm raakloop, gee als saam in 'n neutedop. Gaan definitief een van my kortpaaie (shortcuts) op die rekenaarblad (desktop) word. Baie oulik !!! -- Nantes Kruger Moreleta Park PRETORIA