Andrew, Steve: Why don't you look at the message as posted on Rootsweb? These character encoding issues are very difficult to resolve. I have not had any issues viewing Carol's messages, but I see them in the ones you have quoted. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:01:28 PM EST From: Andrew Rodger <rodgera@audioio.com> To: shayes@dunelm.org.uk, south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD 08.12.1944 On 27 Dec 2011, at 6:53 PM, Steve Hayes wrote: > On 24 Dec 2011 at 13:08, Carol Beneke wrote: > >> EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD >> >> Port Elizabeth, Friday, December 8, 1944 >> >> Births >> >> ARCHER – To Mr and Mrs E.C. ARCHER of Commadagga Station, a >> Daughter, on the >> 6th December, at the Provincial Hospital. >> >> GOODCHILD – To Petty Officer (S.A.N.F.) and Mrs G. GOODCHILD nee >> (Mary >> GRONAU), a Daughter, on December 7th, 1944, at Provincial Hospital. > > These look useful, but I'm wondering what character set you are > using, and > what is represented by the "–" (a with a kappie, Euro, Quotation > mark). This did not happen on my copy. I take it the quotation-mark is an opening Smart Quote -- it's hard to see in the e-mail. On my Mac that would be typed as Option i, a, Option-Shift 2, Option- Shift [. (The first stroke does nothing on the screen, until you type the second, when the circumflex appears with the a.) What it would take in the Wintel world I don't know, but I have noted that all sorts of things happen in cross-platform e-mails (and even in their Word attachments). Very often I also get strange insertions that nobody could have typed, e.g. the word "not could appear in the e-mail as: no ! (that is: n, o, new line [new line is done with shift-return], space, !). Maybe this is the same sort of phenomenon. But my example could also just be noise on the line -- which used to happen with dial-up and still does with telephone-line ADSL. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers Can anyone tell me is J. C. Middlebrook PHOTO Durban and opposite the club Kimberley are still in existance. Or possibly been taken over, or their photo archive preserved Happy New Year everyone Dick Harding (Gloucestershire)

Dear Denise Thank you for your mail. I know very little of my maternal families religous beleifs. My mother used to herd me off to Sunday school every Sunday morning & the church as I got older, but this was very High Church of England. I thought the South African society around 1900 would have made baptism almost mandatory. My maternal grandmother was born in what is now Tamil Nadhu, and was then a part of the Madras Presidency. I beleive her family ( name Carlier) were part of the local Civil Service, so "non standard" religion would not have been smiled on. However, my maternal grandfather while in England was an itinerant fishmonger and green grocer. (Pony and trap around the South East Kent villages) and so had, I doubt, very little to do with his daughters religious education. I am most grateful for your interest, and if I can return the favour, please ask. I wish you a Happy New Year. Regards Dick Harding (Gloucestershire UK) On 28 December 2011 17:02, <denise.genealogyresearch@gmail.com> wrote: > Could they have been baptised as methodists. Names are familiar especially > the Lillias. I have been transcribing and arbitrating for LDS Natal > Methodist Baptisms including those years. I will go through and see if I > can find the records on my computer for you. > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: dick harding <dick27da@gmail.com> > Sender: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 09:34:37 > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Relatives born in Natal > > Dear Mr. Deare > Jones was the surname at birth, and neither aunt > married in S.Africa, > as by 1900, the family was back in the UK. At the moment, we can find no > evidence that their parents were married. Hence the search for any scrap of > family > information we can find. Thank you for your help. > > Dick Harding > > On 26 December 2011 14:56, John Deare <dearej@mweb.co.za> wrote: > > > I have had a quick look at NAAIRS (National archives Index) under NAB for > > Natal and there is no obvious file there. May be a reference in another > > province. Have a look at the site (just Google NAAIRS search) and see if > > anything looks obvious. You give the Aunts surnames as Jones. Do you know > > if > > they married? > > John D > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dick harding > > Sent: 26 December 2011 02:26 PM > > To: ">" RW RSA > > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Relatives born in Natal > > > > Hi List readers > > I hope this isn't to much of an imposition, but I am > > looking for a favour. > > Two of my aunts, now deceased as is the bulk of my family, were born in > > the DURBAN area. Details are Lilias Maud Jones born 1893 and Florence > > Jones born 1895, parents Henry John and Henrietta Maria Jones. Could you > > (or any one else that you care to forward this to) sorry, (or any one > else > > to > > whom you care to forward this) either tell me what there is to find about > > them, > > or even better, explain how I can find the information for myself. If I > can > > return > > the favour in any way, please ask. > > > > Gratefully, in anticipation, > > > > Dick Harding, Gloucestershire UK > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4703 - Release Date: 12/25/11 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD Port Elizabeth, Monday, October 16, 1944 BIRTHS. CONRADIE. – To Mr and Mrs F.D. CONRADIE (Marguretha HOUGH), of Uitenhage, a bonny Son, on the 13th October, at the Port Elizabeth Nursing Home. DOLLENBERG. – To Audrey (nee GATES) and Edwin, a bonny Son at Johannesburg, 22nd September. ENGELBRECHT. – To Henry and Dolly, 14th October, a bonny Son. HEATH. – To Mr and Mrs C.V. HEATH (nee Venetia ROBERTS), a bonny Daughter, on the 15th inst., at Provincial Hospital. JACOBS. – To Walter and Ruth (nee REDLINGHHUIS), a bonny Son, on 13th October. MacGREGOR. – To Mr and Mrs R.J. MacGREGOR ( nee Jean McKENZIE), a Daughter on 14th October. THERON. – To Mr and Mrs L.P. THERON, (Fireman) (nee Lena DE JAGER), a bonny daughter on the 13th inst. ENGAGEMENTS. SAWTELLE – KOLBY-BOOYSEN. – The engagement has been announced between Levina (Finnie), only daughter of Mr and Mrs D. KOLBE-BOOYSEN, of Port Elizabeth, to Raymond Patrick only son of Mrs D. SAWTELLE, of Cambridge, England SILVER WEDDING Mr and Mrs F. HEINE, of 8 Archer Street, Sydenham, married by the Rev. D. HAY at West Bank, East London, on October the 16th, 1919. DEATHS. ABLETT. - Passed away suddenly at 98 Park Drive, on the 14th October, 1944, Robert John ABLETT, at the age of 75 years. Service in St John’s Methodist Church, Havelock Street, this (Monday) afternoon at 3 o’clock, thence the funeral will proceed to South End Cemetery. BERRY. – Passed peacefully away at 1 Cambridge Road, on the 13th October, 1944, Elizabeth BERRY, widow of the late Stephen J. BERRY, of Queenstown, and beloved mother of Alma, Freda and Percy. Funeral at Queenstown. CAMPHOR. – Passed away at 8 Lawler Street, on the 14th October, 1944, Hermanus Todd CAMPHOR, at the age of 20 years, 10 months. Service at the above address this (Monday) afternoon, at 4 o’clock, thence the funeral will proceed to the North End Cemetery. CURTIS – Passed peacefully away at the Provincial Hospital, on the 15th October, 1944, Elizabeth May, beloved only child of Mr and Mrs Vincent CURTIS. Service in St John’s Church, Walmer, to-day, (Monday) at 12 o’clock. DE KLERK. – Passed peacefully away at 63 Upper Hill Street, on the 15th October, 1944, Thomas, beloved husband of Naressa DE KLERK, at the age of 37 years. Service at the above address this (Monday) afternoon at 1.45 o’clock, thence the funeral will proceed to the North End Cemetery. HEYNES. – Passed away at 44 Couldridge Road on the 14th October, 1944, Cecil HEYNES, at the age of 22 years. Funeral from the above address this (Monday) morning at 10.30 o’clock, to the South End Cemetery. KAFAAR. – Gamat passed peacefully away on the 14th October, 1944, at Kalk Bay, Cape Town. Beloved brother of Kulsom BARDIEN and uncle to Fatimaa, Yousof, Dija, Aysa, Marriam and Allivie. STEVENS. – Passed away suddenly at Johannesburg on the 12th October, 1944, William John Cotton, beloved husband of the late Margaret Lily STEVENS (nee GLEAVES) and father of Daphne and Nancy. To be interred at Bathurst. STOLE. – Passed away at 6 Malan Street, on the 15th October, 1944, Evelina STOLE, at the age of 27 years. Funeral from the above address this (Monday) afternoon at two o’clock for the Korsten Cemetery. WHYTE. – Frank MacLeod (Mackie) aged 29, passed away at 3 Ennis Road, Johannesburg, on the 11th inst. Beloved son of Mr and Mrs F.R. WHYTE, brother of Morag, beloved grandson of Bishop WALKER. ROLL OF HONOUR. News has been received by Mr and Mrs Johnston TODD, Ficksburg, that their son, Lieut. Kenneth Melvin TODD, aged 27 years, has been killed in action some-where in the Middle East, on the 6th October. Kenneth was an old “Grey” boy, and before joining up was on the office staff of “General Motors”. At the outbreak of the war he joined the Prince Alfred Guard, but was transferred to the S.A. Air Force in 1940. After completing his training he was for a considerable time an Instructor in the Union. MISSING. KERSHAW. – Pte. Lenelle Warrington Blanchford, serving with the 6th Arm. Div., in Italy, reported missing on the 4th October, 1944, only son of Mr Wilfred KERSHAW of Inchkeith Hotel, Havelock Street, brother of Petal and June, and nephew of Mrs F.B. NORTON, Middleton, Carisle Bridge. SHELLARD. – Mr Fred SHELLARD has been advised by the War Office, that his son David, who was with the 1st Airborne Division at Arnham, is reported missing. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families.

Dick, Are you referring to a studio in Kimberley or in Durban? Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 04:03:54 PM EST From: dick harding <dick27da@gmail.com> To: RW RSA <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Photo Studio Dear Listers Can anyone tell me is J. C. Middlebrook PHOTO Durban and opposite the club Kimberley are still in existance. Or possibly been taken over, or their photo archive preserved Happy New Year everyone Dick Harding (Gloucestershire) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could they have been baptised as methodists. Names are familiar especially the Lillias. I have been transcribing and arbitrating for LDS Natal Methodist Baptisms including those years. I will go through and see if I can find the records on my computer for you. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: dick harding <dick27da@gmail.com> Sender: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 09:34:37 To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Relatives born in Natal Dear Mr. Deare Jones was the surname at birth, and neither aunt married in S.Africa, as by 1900, the family was back in the UK. At the moment, we can find no evidence that their parents were married. Hence the search for any scrap of family information we can find. Thank you for your help. Dick Harding On 26 December 2011 14:56, John Deare <dearej@mweb.co.za> wrote: > I have had a quick look at NAAIRS (National archives Index) under NAB for > Natal and there is no obvious file there. May be a reference in another > province. Have a look at the site (just Google NAAIRS search) and see if > anything looks obvious. You give the Aunts surnames as Jones. Do you know > if > they married? > John D > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dick harding > Sent: 26 December 2011 02:26 PM > To: ">" RW RSA > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Relatives born in Natal > > Hi List readers > I hope this isn't to much of an imposition, but I am > looking for a favour. > Two of my aunts, now deceased as is the bulk of my family, were born in > the DURBAN area. Details are Lilias Maud Jones born 1893 and Florence > Jones born 1895, parents Henry John and Henrietta Maria Jones. Could you > (or any one else that you care to forward this to) sorry, (or any one else > to > whom you care to forward this) either tell me what there is to find about > them, > or even better, explain how I can find the information for myself. If I can > return > the favour in any way, please ask. > > Gratefully, in anticipation, > > Dick Harding, Gloucestershire UK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4703 - Release Date: 12/25/11 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some years ago I found my grandparents' marriage and the baptisms of their daughters in the Durban Anglican registers. These were 1922 - 1914. At that time the registers were kept at the Killie Campbell Library in Durban. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:31:15 PM EST From: dick harding <dick27da@gmail.com> To: denise.genealogyresearch@gmail.com, south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Relatives born in Natal Dear Denise Thank you for your mail. I know very little of my maternal families religous beleifs. My mother used to herd me off to Sunday school every Sunday morning & the church as I got older, but this was very High Church of England. I thought the South African society around 1900 would have made baptism almost mandatory. My maternal grandmother was born in what is now Tamil Nadhu, and was then a part of the Madras Presidency. I beleive her family ( name Carlier) were part of the local Civil Service, so "non standard" religion would not have been smiled on. However, my maternal grandfather while in England was an itinerant fishmonger and green grocer. (Pony and trap around the South East Kent villages) and so had, I doubt, very little to do with his daughters religious education. I am most grateful for your interest, and if I can return the favour, please ask. I wish you a Happy New Year. Regards Dick Harding (Gloucestershire UK) On 28 December 2011 17:02, <denise.genealogyresearch@gmail.com> wrote: > Could they have been baptised as methodists. Names are familiar especially > the Lillias. I have been transcribing and arbitrating for LDS Natal > Methodist Baptisms including those years. I will go through and see if I > can find the records on my computer for you. > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: dick harding <dick27da@gmail.com> > Sender: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 09:34:37 > To: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Relatives born in Natal > > Dear Mr. Deare > Jones was the surname at birth, and neither aunt > married in S.Africa, > as by 1900, the family was back in the UK. At the moment, we can find no > evidence that their parents were married. Hence the search for any scrap of > family > information we can find. Thank you for your help. > > Dick Harding > > On 26 December 2011 14:56, John Deare <dearej@mweb.co.za> wrote: > > > I have had a quick look at NAAIRS (National archives Index) under NAB for > > Natal and there is no obvious file there. May be a reference in another > > province. Have a look at the site (just Google NAAIRS search) and see if > > anything looks obvious. You give the Aunts surnames as Jones. Do you know > > if > > they married? > > John D > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dick harding > > Sent: 26 December 2011 02:26 PM > > To: ">" RW RSA > > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Relatives born in Natal > > > > Hi List readers > > I hope this isn't to much of an imposition, but I am > > looking for a favour. > > Two of my aunts, now deceased as is the bulk of my family, were born in > > the DURBAN area. Details are Lilias Maud Jones born 1893 and Florence > > Jones born 1895, parents Henry John and Henrietta Maria Jones. Could you > > (or any one else that you care to forward this to) sorry, (or any one > else > > to > > whom you care to forward this) either tell me what there is to find about > > them, > > or even better, explain how I can find the information for myself. If I > can > > return > > the favour in any way, please ask. > > > > Gratefully, in anticipation, > > > > Dick Harding, Gloucestershire UK > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4703 - Release Date: 12/25/11 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD Port Elizabeth, Tuesday, October 17, 1944 BIRTHS. BEDRICK. – To Ted and Mary, on 16th, a bonny Daughter. BELLAIRS. – At Stoneham on Saturday, 14th October, to Mr and Mrs R. BELLAIRS a Daughter. BLOOMFIELD. – To Mr and Mrs F.B.G. BLOOMFIELD, on the 14TH instant, a bonny Daughter, at the Salvation Army Mothers Home. FRYE. – To Owen and Kay (nee ELLA), a bonny son on the 16th inst. at Stoneham Maternity Home. MARKMAN. – To Mr and Mrs Israel MARKMAN (nee Lily HERRING), Humansdorp, a bonny Daughter on the 15th inst., at the Provincial Hospital. MORRIS. – To Arthur and Phyllis (nee GREWAR), a bonny Son. VAN DER MERWE. – To Mr and Mrs J.J. VAN DER MERWE (Jimmy and Tinnie), a Son on the 14th October, at 99, 5th Avenue, Newton Park, TO BE MARRIED. AIREY – JOHNSON. – Owing to unforeseen circumstances the marriage between Lieut. Frederick George AIREY, (S.A.A.F.), and S/Sgt Phyllis Hamilton JOHNSON, (W.A.A.S.), has been postponed ELLISON – MEYER. – The marriage of Esther, twin daughter of Mr and Mrs J. ELLISON, of Johannesburg, to Harry, son of Mr and Mrs Henry MEYER of Port Elizabeth, will take place on Sunday, 29th October, at the Wolmarans Street Synagogue. GOLDEN WEDDING. GARD – MASON. – At St Mary’s Parish Church, Stoke Newington, London on October17th, 1894, Lillian MASON, to Arnold L.C. GARD. DEATHS. WAKEFORD. – Passed peacefully away on the 16th October, 1944, Catherina Sussana WAKEFORD, in her 44th year. Service in the Salvation Hall, Relton Street, Sidwell, to-morrow (Wednesday) morning at 10.30 o’clock, thence the funeral will proceed to the North End Cemetery. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families.

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD Port Elizabeth, Wednesday, October 18, 1944. BIRTHS CONRADIE. – To Mr and Mrs F.D. CONRADIE (Marguretha HOUGH), of Uitenhage, a bonny Son, on the 13th October, at the Elizabeth Nursing Home. FRYE. – To Owen and Kay (nee ELLA), a bonny Son on the 16th Inst., at Stoneham Maternity Home. PIDERIT. – To Bob and Clarice, a bonny Daughter. SIMKIN. – To Lieut. And Mrs R. SIMKIN (nee Beth LE ROUX) on the 17th October, at Provincial Hospital, a bonny Son. ENGAGEMENTS HOWARTH – CUNNINGHAM. – Waldred, daughter of Mrs F. BARKER and the late Walter HOWARTH, to Leslie, son of Mr and Mrs G. CUNNUNGHAM, Uitenhage. TO BE MARRIED. PAYNE – CARTER. – The marriage will take place between Gladys Lillian, only daughter of Mr and Mrs C.E. CARTER of Port Elizabeth, to John Edward, only son of Mr and Mrs G.E. PAYNE of Christchurch, England, at St Barnabas Church, Rhodes Street, Sydenham, at 3 p.m. on the 21st October. Congratulations: 14 Rhodes Street. SIMMONS – BEAN. – The marriage will take place between Maude Leone, daughter of Mr and Mrs L.O. BEAN of “Orlando” Farm, Sandflats, to Frank Ronald SIMMONS (R.A.F.), son of Mr and Mrs H.W. SIMMONS of Ipswich, Suffolk, England, at the Holy Trinity Church, Havelock Street, at 3 p.m. on Saturday 21st October, 1944. Reception: Macsherry Hall. Congratulations: 14 Fort Street. SILVER WEDDING. WARD – KIRBY. – At St. Sepulchre’s Church, Northampton, October 18th, 1919, Nellie KIRBY to John WARD. DEATHS. FITCHET. – Passed Peacefully away at her residence, Graham Street, Bedford on the 12th October, 1944, Mary- Anne FITCHET, widow of the late William FITCHET, in her 94th year. ODDY. – On the 18th October, 1944, Mrs A.W. ODDY at Burley, Leech, Yorkshire, England. Sister of Mrs J.A. FISHER, of Port Elizabeth SHOVELL. – Passed peacefully away at No 10 Lea Street, on the 16th October, 1944, Maria SHOVELL, at the age of 66 years. The funeral will leave the above address to-day (Wednesday) at two o’clock, for the South End Cemetery. WAKEFORD. – Died on the 16th October, 1944, Catherina Susana WAKEFORD, at the age of 44 years. (Late of 65 Kempston Road). Service in the Salvation Army Hall, Relton Street, Sidwell, this (Wednesday) morning at 10.30 o’clock, thence the funeral will proceed to the North End Cemetery. WORTHY. – Passed away Peacefully at the Provincial Hospital on the 16th October, 1944, James Robert, beloved husband of Ina WORTHY and father of Jean, at the age of 65 years. Service in Jones and Rice Chapel, 43 Russell Road, to-day (Wednesday) at 2.30 o’clock, thence the funeral will proceed to the South End Cemetery. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families.

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD Port Elizabeth, Saturday, October 21, 1944 BIRTHS BOUCHER – To Mr and Mrs W.H. BOUCHER, a bonny Daughter on 20th October, at Provincial Hospital. DENTRY – To Queenie and Cliff, a Son, on 18th. MANDY – To Mr and Mrs M.P. MANDY, a bonny Son, on the 19th inst. MORRISON – To Jock and Rayna (nee MORRICK), a bonny Son, at the Provincial Hospital, on the 19th inst. PENTZ – To Peter and Ruth (nee PRETORIUS), a Daughter, 15th October, Moedersbond, Pretoria. SCHWEITZER – To Helen and Otto, a Son, at Stoneham Maternity Home. BARMITZVAH MORRIS – Cecil, son of Mr and Mrs M. MORRIS, 14 Erith Street, Port Elizabeth, will read portion of the Law at the Western Road, Synagogue to-day (Saturday), 21st October. Brocha at above address after service. ENGAGEMENTS BOADLE – LE ROUX. The engagement is announced between Martha, 5th daughter of Mr and the late Mrs P.A. LE ROUX, of Port Elizabeth, and Jimmy, youngest son of Mr and Mrs J.W. BOADLE of Piet Retief. TO BE MARRIED COLEMAN – MORRIS. – The marriage will take place between Doreen, eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs W.F. Morris of Sydenham, to Herbert, son of Mr and the late Mrs G. COLEMAN of Slurry, at St Patrick’s Church, Somers Road, Sydenham at 2.30 p.m. to-day (21st Oct.). Residence: No 1 Northampton Street, Sydenham> PERL – MARSDEN. – The marriage of Miriam, daughter of Mrs and the late Mr S. PERL, East London, to Donald, son of Mr and Mrs MARSDEN, of Roodekop, will take place at East London, on 27th October. SIMMONS – BEAN. – The Marriage will take place between Maude Leone, daughter of Mr and Mrs I.O. BEAN of “Orlando” Farm, Sandflats, to Frank Ronald SIMMONS, (H.A.F.), son of Mr and Mrs H.W. SIMMONS, of Ipswich, Suffolk, England, at Holy Trinity Church, Havelock Street, at 3 p.m. to-day (Saturday) 21 October, 1944. MARRIED GALPIN – DOLD. – Married at Gardens Presbyterian Church, Cape Town, on the 19th October, Louise, youngest daughter of Mr Ross Ashton DOLD and the late Mrs DOLD, of Cape Town, to John Carter GALPIN, only son of Mr and Mrs C.C. GALPIN, of Port Elizabeth. WEIR – MASON. – Married in Scotland 23rd August, 1944, John Douglas McLeod WEIR (Jock), youngest son of Mrs and the Late Mr Donald McLeod WEIR to Elizabeth MASON of Glasgow. DEATHS JOHNSON. – Op 29 September, 1944, is ons geliefde tante, Isabel Elizabeth JOHNSON (gebore MULLER), oorlede in die Krugersdorpse Hospitaal, vroer van Elandsrivier en Rocklands Distrik, Uitenhage, in die geseende ouderdom van 92 yaar. Sy is in Pretoria be haar eggenote begraawe. – Naamens die Muller familie. MORRIS. – Passed away peacefully at her residence on 19th instant, Rachel, beloved mother of Monty, Beryl, Selma, Rose and Vera, at the age of 65. Prayers at 67 Russell Road, to-morrow (Sunday) 22nd. There-after 23 Carlisle Street. SAMPSON. – Died at 33 Seringa Road, Fairview, on the 19th October, 1944, Elise SAMPSON, at the age of 67 years.The funeral will leave the above address this (Saturday) afternoon at 3.30 o’clock for the South End Cemetery. SHONE. – Verrall passed peacefully away at Bedford, 19th October, 1944. Sadly missed by Mom, John, Olive, Bobs, Paul and Pauline. TASKER. – Passed away at Kampala, Uganda, on Monday the 16th inst., Eve, beloved elder daughter of Mr and Mrs James TASKER, Residency Hotel, Pretoria. ROLL OF HONOUR. PRINSLOO. – Cpl. J PRINSLOO, age 19, youngest son of Mr and Mrs W.S. PRINSLOO of Port Elizabeth, who has been killed in a motor ambulance on September 21, while serving with the 6th S.A. Division in Italy. COCKCROFT. – Killed in action in Italy on the 19th inst., L/Cpl. Dallas COCKCROFT, eldest son of Mr and Mrs W.H. COCKCROFT, of Kingston, Alice, C.P. WOUNDED Joseph HARRISON (Joe), son of Mr and Mrs F.J. HARRISON of Port Elizabeth, has been wounded in action on the 13th October while serving with the 6th Division in Italy. MISSING HENRY. – News has been received by Dr. Ross HENRY, that his son, Lieut. Alan Ross HENRY, S.A.A.F. has been missing since October 12th as a result of a flying battle. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families.

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD Port Elizabeth, Monday, October 23, 1944. BIRTHS BOUCHER – To Mr and Mrs W.H. BOUCHER, a bonny Daughter on the 20th October, at provincial Hospital COSTAS – To Spero and Dora (nee FOURIE), a bonny Son, at the Elizabeth Nursing Home, on 20th. DE LANGE – To Barn and Joe, a bonny Daughter on the 19th October. FORD – To May (nee KELLY) and Richard, in Italy, a Son, on the 21st, at Provincial Hospital. NAUDE – To Mr and Mrs W. NAUDE, a bonny daughter on the 20th inst. OFSOWITZ – To Mr and Mrs Mike OFSOWITZ, at St Catherine’s Nursing Home, Queenstown, a bonny Son, on the 23rd October, 1944. STRYDOM – To L/Cpl. And Mrs R.J. STRYDOM (Flo MAGILL). A bonny Son at the Stoneham Maternity Home, on the 21st. ENGAGEMENTS GESWINT – GROVES . – The engagement is announced between Mavis, youngest daughter of Mrs GROVES and the late Mr GROVES, Port Elizabeth, and Abraham, fourth son of Mr and Mrs GESWINT, Kruisfontein. MARRIED VAN HEERDEN – PRICE. – On 21st October, 1944, by special licence, at Grahamstown, Cornelia VAN HEERDEN and Arthur William PRICE. Both of Port Elizabeth. SILVER WEDDING WEDDELL – PRAED. On the 23rd October, 1919, by Rev. C.H. CLAPP, Queen Street Baptist Church, Port Elizabeth, Perclyal Harold WEDDELL to Vera Harriette PRAED. Address: “Blair Cottage”, Cookhouse. BERL – RICHARDSON. - Married at Port Elizabeth by Rev. A. LEVY, on October 22nd, 1919. Rose RICHARDSON to Jack BERL. GOLDEN WEDDING COWAN – BIDDULPH. – Married at St Peter’s Church, Cradock, by the Rev. Canon SMITH, M.A., on 22nd October, 1894, Charles Alfred Dyason COWEN of Bulawayo, Rhodesia, to Ivy BIDDULPH, fourth daughter of E.J. BIDDULPH, Esq., Cradock. Present address: P.O. Bushmans River Mouth, via Alexandria, C.P. DEATHS BALL – Passed away at the Provincial Hospital, on the 21st October, 1944, Arthur Hedley Vicars BALL, in his 88th year. Interred St John’s Church Cemetery, Saturday, 21st inst. BOOYSEN – Passed peacefully away at 12 Chapel Street, on the 22nd October, 1944, Anna Sophia, dearly beloved wife of Louis BOOYSEN and beloved mother of Anna VAN TONDER, Lena SPENCER, William BOOYSEN and Betty DALTON, at the age of 73 years and 10 months. Service in the Dutch Reformed Church, Campbell Street, this (Monday) afternoon at 2.45 o’clock, thence the funeral will proceed to the North End Cemetery. DU PLESSIS – Passed away peacefully at Cape Town , Constance Edmundia DU PLESSIS (born MELVILLE) widow of the late J.P. DU PLESSIS, formerly of Humansdorp. Deeply regretted by her children, Garfield, Madge, Bill and Clive. VAN RENSBURG – Passed peacefully away at 33 Hutchinson Street on the 21st October, 1944, Elizabeth Petronella beloved wife of Jacobus VAN RENSBURG, at the age of 48 years, Service in Jones & Rice Chapel, 43 Russell Road, this (Monday) afternoon at 3.45 o’clock, thence the funeral will proceed to the North End Cemetery. MISSING NEL – Lieut. Charles NEL, S.AA.F., son of Mr and Mrs NEL, Oudtshoorn. Brother of Mrs V.D. MEDEN and Mrs CALLAGHAN. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families.

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD Port Elizabeth, Monday, November 13, 1944. Births. BAUMEISTER – On the 19th November to Mr and Mrs Fred BAUMEISTER, a son. BOOYSEN – To Mr and Mrs B. BOOYSEN (nee Anna KOEKEMOER) a bonny daughter on the 19th November. BOSHOFF – To Mr and Mrs J.R. BOSHOFF a daughter at the Provincial Hospital on 11th November. LANCASTER – To Mr and Mrs W.G. LANCASTER (nee Flo HANCOCK) at the Provincial Hospital on November 12th, a Son. MORGAN – To Cpl. And Mrs C.R. MORGAN (nee ASPELING) a bonny Son. Engagements. FORBES – BADGER – The engagement is announced of Margaret, only daughter of Mr and Mrs G. FORBES, Johannesburg, and Keith, only son of Mr and the late Mrs BADGER, Cradock. SMITH – KILLIAN – The engagement was announced on 11th instant between Joey KILLIAN of Zwartkops and Charles SMITH of the S.A.A.F., Italy. VAN VUUREN – SAMUELS – The engagement is announced between Doreen, only daughter of Mr and Mrs A.F. VAN VUUREN, to George, second eldest son of Mr and the late Mrs W.G. SAMUELS, both of Port Elizabeth Silver Wedding. SLATER – HOULIE – Married on the 12th November 1919, at Victoria Street Congregational Church by the late Rev. J.C. WEIS, Charles Jack SLATER to Catharine Sophia (Katie) HOULIE. Present address: 11 Wright Street, Sidwell, Port Elizabeth Deaths. CONRY – Passed peacefully away at Queen Mary Hospital, Uitenhage, on the 12th November, 1944, Clarence, beloved husband of Alida (DEACON) and father of Dereck. McIntyre – Passed away suddenly at Sterkstroom on the 11th November, 1944, James, beloved husband of Freda and father of Les, Harold and Fred. SMAILES – At the Provincial Hospital on Saturday, the 11th inst., Mona beloved sister of Hilda DE MEILLON and Richard SMAILES (in Italy) of Johannesburg. Sadly missed by John, Hyla and children. Roll of Honour. THORN – In proud and affectionate remembrance of our youngest son and brother, Sapper Eric THORN of the S.A. Engineers who paid the supreme sacrifice at El Alamein on the 13th November, 1942. Fondly remembered by Mom, Dad, Doug, Hilton and Sylvia. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families.

On 24 Dec 2011 at 13:08, Carol Beneke wrote: > EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD > > Port Elizabeth, Friday, December 8, 1944 > > Births > > ARCHER – To Mr and Mrs E.C. ARCHER of Commadagga Station, a Daughter, on the > 6th December, at the Provincial Hospital. > > GOODCHILD – To Petty Officer (S.A.N.F.) and Mrs G. GOODCHILD nee (Mary > GRONAU), a Daughter, on December 7th, 1944, at Provincial Hospital. These look useful, but I'm wondering what character set you are using, and what is represented by the "–" (a with a kappie, Euro, Quotation mark) -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

On 26 Dec 2011 at 12:25, dick harding wrote: > Hi List readers > I hope this isn't to much of an imposition, but I am > looking for a favour. > Two of my aunts, now deceased as is the bulk of my family, were born in > the DURBAN area. Details are Lilias Maud Jones born 1893 and Florence > Jones born 1895, parents Henry John and Henrietta Maria Jones. Could you > (or any one else that you care to forward this to) sorry, (or any one else to > whom you care to forward this) either tell me what there is to find about > them, or even better, explain how I can find the information for myself. If I > can return the favour in any way, please ask. If you are a newcomer to South African genealogy, you may have a lot of questions. Here are some answers to some of the most frequently asked questions: WHERE'S THE BEST PLACE TO BEGIN? If you're asking this on the Internet, presumably you have access to a web browser, and one of the best places to begin with South African genealogy is right here: http://home.global.co.za/~mercon/ WHERE CAN I FIND SOUTH AFRICAN CENSUS RECORDS? The short answer is: You can't. South African census returns are routinely destroyed after statistical information has been abstracted, so South African genealogists don't use them. WHAT DO SOUTH AFRICAN GENEALOGISTS USE THEN? One of the best places to begin is the records of deceased estates. These usually have a Death Notice, which should (but sometimes doesn't) give you the names of the parents, spouse and children of the deceased, or if the deceased was unmarried, the names of brothers and sisters. They have the wills, if any (except in the Cape, where wills and estate accounts have been filed separately from death notices in the older estates), and the estate accounts. The older ones are in the archives and have computer indexes, and you can search the indexes on the web here: http://www.national.archives.gov.za/naairs_content.htm but be sure to read the introduction and explanatory text before searching. WHERE CAN I FIND SOUTH AFRICAN SHIPPING LISTS? First, they are not a good place to start looking. They are incomplete, and all over the place. If you want to know if some relative went to South Africa and died here, look in the deceased estates, not the shipping lists. In most cases, shipping lists are a last resort, or a means of providing "filler" information to round out the family history. Secondly, if you do want to try shipping lists, you need to know where your ancestor came from, and roughly when. If the answer is Germany 1859, the shipping lists have been published (Werner Schmidt-Pretoria, _Deutsche Auswanderung nach Sued-Afrika im 19 Jahrhundert_). Some other shipping lists have also been published, but they are fragmentary. If you are looking for ancestors who emigrated to Southern Africa in the period 1890-1925, one possible source is _South Africa_ magazine. This was published in London. The Johannesburg Public Library and the National Library in Tshwane have incomplete runs. You could try other libraries too. They published lists of passengers embarking at British ports for South Africa, and embarking at South African ports for the UK (and sometimes other places). _South Africa_ magazine is a useful source, if you can find it, as it also has birth, marriage and death announcements, and other personal news, usually of the richer members of society. Some of these have been transcribed by Ellen Stanton, and can be seen here: http://www.genealogyworld.net/ellen/shipping/index.html Some other passenger lists and other useful stuff are available at: http://www.genealogyworld.net/ WHERE CAN I FIND WILLS OR PROBATE RECORDS? With the deceased estates. See: http://www.national.archives.gov.za/naairs_content.htm I did a search on the archives: what do the funny things like DEPOT and VOLUME mean? See the warning above: Be sure to read the introduction and explanatory text before searching. If you didn't, go here now: http://www.national.archives.gov.za/fields.htm HOW DO I GET A BIRTH CERTIFICATE? With some difficulty. First, to apply for one, you need to know the information you probably want to get from the certificate. That's Catch 22. Catches 1-21 are almost as bad. Birth cer- tificates are expensive. They take a long time to get. The indexes are not open to the public so you can't ask someone else to look them up. For more information, and applications forms, see: http://www.home-affairs.gov.za/ The good news is that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS, Mormons) has microfilmed some of the registers, so that if you want the information in the register, as opposed to an official certificate, you can try there. If you want to know what the LDS has, go to their web site: http:// www.familysearch.com or http://www.familysearch.org , Click on LIBRARY, click on FAMILY LIBRARY HISTORY CATALOGUE, click on PLACE NAME enter South Africa Click on Civil Registration Click on HERE right at the bottom so you have a printable copy. HOW DO I GET A MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE? Marriage certificates are of little use to genealogists in South Africa. They do not give the names and occupations of parents. They are as difficult to get as birth certificates. For more information on getting marriage certificates see: http://www.home-affairs.gov.za/ Your best chance of seeing a marriage certificate, however, is if the couple got divorced, and you find a copy in the divorce records. SOME divorce records are in the archives, and you can find them here: http://www.national.archives.gov.za/naairs_content.htm The archival references to divorces will sometimes speak of "illiquid cases" or "opposed applications", and sometimes there will be both. Make sure you order the right ones. They can be quite useful. Sometimes you can really get the dirt on your ancestors from these things - private detectives' reports on how many times they committed adultery, where and with whom, for example. Also, names and ages of minor children and who got the custody. If you still want a marriage certificate (or birth certificate), you need to apply to the Department of Home Affairs, Private Bag X114, Pretoria, 0001. Before they can issue a certificate, they usually want to know the kind of information you probably hope to get from the certificate. Marriages were registered nationally from 1923 to 1976, and after 1994. Between 1976 and 1994 some "homeland" marriages may have been registered separately. Before 1923 registrations were in the different provinces, and before 1910 in the different colonies. Before 1902 it was in the different republics and colonies. You still apply to the same place, but bear in mind that older registers are kept in the archives, and for a certificate to be written they have to be transferred from the archives to the Department of Home Affairs and then returned. This can take a long time. Also check the information above under "Birth Certificates" on how to find out if any of the marriage registers have been filemed by the LDS Church. Before about 1895 in many places marriages were only recorded in church registers. The situation is a lot more complex than described above, and the complexities are things you can ask about on the list, but the general description should give you some idea of the kind of questions that might be worth asking. WHERE CAN I FIND CHURCH RECORDS? With difficulty. There are well over 8000 separate religious denominations in South Africa, and many people change denominations 3 or more times during their lives. People move to a new town, and join a new denomination or religion, or become agnostics or atheists. The records of these denominations are all over the place too. Some of the older and larger denominations have centralised their records, but most have not. They are kept in local churches and can be damaged or destroyed by damp, acid paper or ink, insects, mice, fire or flood, or simply being tossed out in an over-zealous clean-up. Some of the smaller denominations keep very poor records. Forged marriage cer- tificates are common, especially in rural areas. If you know what denomination your ancestors were, and where they were living, when children were born or they were married, you can ask some specific questions on the SA Genealogy list like "Where are the Wesleyan Methodist Registers for Colesberg in the period 1860- 1880?" But general requests for look ups in church registers without mentioning a particular denomination, time and place are unlikely to get a useful response. WHERE CAN I FIND MILITARY RECORDS? Department of Defence DOCUMENTATION CENTRE Private Bag X289 Pretoria 0001 South Africa Tel 012-322-6350 ext 227 Fax 012-323-5613 The more info you can give the faster they can find details. They have a card index for military personnel who served in WWI and WWII. These give the service number, which can be used to find fuller service records. WHERE CAN I LOOK UP THE PHONE NUMBERS OF LIVING RELATIVES? Turn your web browser to: http://phonebook.yellowpages.co.za/ it's the on-line phone book. WHAT IF MY FAMILY WERE IN OTHER PARTS OF AFRICA? Try asking on the African Genealogy mailing list -- see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/ WHAT SHOULD I DO NEXT? Go to: http://home.global.co.za/~mercon/sagen.htm and follow the links! -- This FAQ file is maintained by: Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm E-mail: hayesstw@gmail.com Last Updated: 21 March 2009 Suggestions for additions or improvements are welcome. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

I've just been looking at a cemetery recording app for smartphones, and wondered if anyone in South Africa had tried it. If you haven't heard of it, I've blogged about it, with links, here: http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com/2011/12/billion-graves.html -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com http://hayesfam.posterous.com/ E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk

Dear Mr. Deare Jones was the surname at birth, and neither aunt married in S.Africa, as by 1900, the family was back in the UK. At the moment, we can find no evidence that their parents were married. Hence the search for any scrap of family information we can find. Thank you for your help. Dick Harding On 26 December 2011 14:56, John Deare <dearej@mweb.co.za> wrote: > I have had a quick look at NAAIRS (National archives Index) under NAB for > Natal and there is no obvious file there. May be a reference in another > province. Have a look at the site (just Google NAAIRS search) and see if > anything looks obvious. You give the Aunts surnames as Jones. Do you know > if > they married? > John D > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dick harding > Sent: 26 December 2011 02:26 PM > To: ">" RW RSA > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Relatives born in Natal > > Hi List readers > I hope this isn't to much of an imposition, but I am > looking for a favour. > Two of my aunts, now deceased as is the bulk of my family, were born in > the DURBAN area. Details are Lilias Maud Jones born 1893 and Florence > Jones born 1895, parents Henry John and Henrietta Maria Jones. Could you > (or any one else that you care to forward this to) sorry, (or any one else > to > whom you care to forward this) either tell me what there is to find about > them, > or even better, explain how I can find the information for myself. If I can > return > the favour in any way, please ask. > > Gratefully, in anticipation, > > Dick Harding, Gloucestershire UK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4703 - Release Date: 12/25/11 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD Port Elizabeth, Tuesday, November 14, 1944 Births. BESTER – On the 11th November, to Jack and Olive (nee STREET), a son “Duggie,” at Elizabeth Nursing Home. BONTHUYS – To Bokkie and Joey , a bonny daughter on the 11th November, at the Mothers Home. FEATHERSTONE – To Lt. And Mrs E.H. FEATHERSTONE (nee Gwyneth HAYWARD) a bonny son, on the 11th November, 1944, at the Queen Mary Hospital, Uitenhage. FOURIE – To James and Margaret (nee WAIT), a daughter on the 12th at the Mothers Hospital. KLOPPER – To Martin and Edith (nee MILLS) a son. MULDER – To Mr and Mrs C. MULDER (nee Johanna WAGENER) a bonny son on the 13th November at the Provincial Hospital. Engagements. MACDONALD – LOUW – The engagement is announced between Ruth Priscilla, youngest daughter of Mr and Mrs J.D. LOUW, to Eric Wallace of Mr and Mrs W.F. MACDONALD, both of Port Elizabeth VAN HEERDEN – FRASER – The engagement is announced between Miss Ella VAN HEERDEN, 4th daughter of Mr and Mrs H VAN HEERDEN of New Bethesda, and Hugh FRASER, only son of Mrs and the late Mr A.R. FRASER, of Port Elizabeth. To be married. ETTMANN – MACKENZIE – The marriage of Ralph, only son of Mr A. And the late Mrs ETTMANN of Laingsburg, and Margaret, only daughter of Captain and Mrs T.C. MACKENZIE of Golden Valley, will take place in the Presbyterian Church, Mowbray, on the 29th November, 1944. Deaths. CONRY – Passed peacefully away at Queen Mary Hospital, Uitenhage, on the 12th November, 1944, Clarence, beloved husband of Alida (DEACON) and father of Dereck. The funeral will proceed from St Katharine’s Church, Uitenhage, this (Tuesday) afternoon at 4.15. HALL – Passed peacefully away at the Provincial Hospital on 13th November, 1944, Cpl. A.E. HALL (Ted) beloved father of Ted and Vic. ROOKE – Passed away at Nursing Home, Pretoria, on the 11th November, Charles Wilmore, age 55, dearly beloved husband of Robina (nee HENDERSON), only son of the late Mr and Mrs ROOKE of Uitenhage. Roll of Honour. THORN – In proud memory of Eric (S.A.E.C.) Killed in action in North Africa, on the 13th November, 1942, Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families.

Hi Lists N and O headstones for Forest Hill Cemetery now available at http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=433858 Have a wonderful New Year. And lets hope all those walls come tumbling down. Best Wishes Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families.

Ok...if you don't use Google: www.national.archives.gov.za/naairs_content.htm Click on search at bottom of list Select a data base EG NAB for Pietermaritzburg Archives - which covers Natal JohnD -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Wynne Sent: 26 December 2011 05:14 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] NAAIRS The NAAIRS web site says the database is updated once a year, but two of the e-mail addresses given on the site (naairs@dac.gov.za and archives@dac.gov.za) bounce back as undeliverable. Does anyone know when the database was last updated ith new data, and when the next update might be? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4704 - Release Date: 12/26/11

- Hi John I always use the email address enquiries@dac.gov.za (Alicia) to communicate with the Pretoria archives (especially to request them to draw some files for me before my visit). Suppose it will depends to whom you want to sent what type of an enquiry? Regards Nantes On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 5:13 PM, John Wynne <jw_email2004-clwyd@yahoo.co.uk>wrote: > The NAAIRS web site says the database is updated once a year, but two of > the e-mail addresses given on the site (naairs@dac.gov.za and > archives@dac.gov.za) bounce back as undeliverable. > Does anyone know when the database was last updated ith new data, and when > the next update might be? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Nantes Kruger Moreleta Park PRETORIA