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    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Battle of Britain
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Sigrid I am not aware there ever was a Battle of Britain medal issued, there was a clasp though Do you have the medal and if so do you have a picture of it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 27/10/2013 21:14, Sigrid de Wit wrote: > Dear all, > > Does anyone know why my South African grandmother would have received a > medal for the Battle of Britain during the Second World War? As far as we > know she wasn't stationed in Britain but rather in Cairo and possibly > elsewhere in Africa. Can anyone shed light on this matter? > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > Sigrid.

    10/27/2013 03:27:18
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Battle of Britain
    2. Keith Meintjes
    3. What is the medal? Please tell us any inscriptions on the front or back. Is a name inscribed on the outer rim? Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 05:19:47 PM EDT From: "Sigrid de Wit" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Battle of Britain Dear all, Does anyone know why my South African grandmother would have received a medal for the Battle of Britain during the Second World War? As far as we know she wasn't stationed in Britain but rather in Cairo and possibly elsewhere in Africa. Can anyone shed light on this matter? Thanks! Regards, Sigrid. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/27/2013 11:24:49
    1. [SOUTH-AFRICA] (Fwd) Re: Queenstown Cemetery & Crebo family
    2. Steve Hayes
    3. Can anyone help with some information about people who died in Queenstown? ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Subject: Re: Queenstown Cemetery From: Pam Roach <[email protected]> Date sent: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 19:27:15 -0700 To: [email protected] Hi, Steve - Thanks for offering to help. Here are the two memorials that I have for Robert "Bob" Crebo and his wife Catherine (McCallum) Crebo in the Queenstown Cemetery: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi- bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSvcid=420239&GRid=118973931& http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=118974039 Both of the memorials have news articles that "may" have information that would be helpful to someone searching for their graves. I hope you can find someone in the area that can help me. Thanks so much:) Pam Roach ------- End of forwarded message ------- The Queenstown Cemetery may be found here on the Find-a-Grave site: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GRid=118974039&CRid=2499154& or here in shortened form: http://tinyurl.com/on9gur3 I have looked on NAAIRS and found these estate records: DEPOT KAB SOURCE MOOC VOLUME_NO 6/9/4004 REFERENCE 32255 DESCRIPTION CREBO, CATHERINE. NEE MCCALLUM. ESTATE PAPERS. STARTING 19310000 ENDING 19310000 DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG REFERENCE 6082/68 DESCRIPTION LANE, BRIAN JOHN. STARTING 19680000 ENDING 19680000 REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE CATHERINE LANE (BORN CREBO). (I can look this one up, if needed) -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Blog: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm E-mail: [email protected]

    10/26/2013 11:10:34
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 320
    2. Bart Simon
    3. MGC: http://www.ladysmithhistory.com/horsley-family/ In the tree above, one William Horsley m. Sarah Wardell (b:1847). So Isaac Wardell (b:c.1817) is in the region of being her father/uncle or thereabouts ?. What is the relationship between Sarah and Isaac Wardell ?. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ====================== She was a Miss Wardell, address Ladysmith. Did a general search on FamilySearch and it came up with a 3rd record, Isaac Wardell but a younger man - marrying in the Dutch Reformed Church, Boshoff - maybe a son from first marriage? His profession given was "Zaaiboer" so he possibly had a farm in the mielie belt? Hope this helps. [Isaac Wardell, widower, wheel wright, age 54yrs, m:1871-01-30, Mary Ann Maria Richards, spinster, age 33yrs, at York in county of PMB, signed in presence of William Horsley and Sarah? Horsley. Married in the house of William Horsley.]: Isaac Wardell: How does he fit into the Wardell tree ?. ===

    10/26/2013 06:46:01
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 320
    2. Liz Finnie
    3. Re: Wardell - Horsley - Richards [!!!]. I don't have any ideas where Isaac Wardell fits in but yesterday I was looking at the Horsley family tree online on the Ladysmith history website and saw a Sarah Horsley. Reading your query I then looked her up on the Natal Marriages FamilySearch website. She was a Miss Wardell, address Ladysmith. Did a general search on FamilySearch and it came up with a 3rd record, Isaac Wardell but a younger man - marrying in the Dutch Reformed Church, Boshoff - maybe a son from first marriage? His profession given was "Zaaiboer" so he possibly had a farm in the mielie belt? Hope this helps. On 25 October 2013 20:00, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Wardell - Horsley - Richards [!!!] (Bart Simon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 22:52:46 +0200 > From: "Bart Simon" <[email protected]> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Wardell - Horsley - Richards [!!!] > To: "RW RSA" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > MGC: > > [Isaac Wardell, widower, wheel wright, age 54yrs, m:1871-01-30, Mary Ann > Maria Richards, spinster, age 33yrs, at York in county of PMB, signed in > presence of William Horsley and Sarah? Horsley. Married in the house of > William Horsley.]: Isaac Wardell: How does he fit into the Wardell tree ?. > Is anyone interested in this area od research ?. > > - S.K.M. ? [!!!] > ================== > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 320 > ******************************************** >

    10/26/2013 09:39:05
    1. [SOUTH-AFRICA] Wardell - Horsley - Richards [!!!]
    2. Bart Simon
    3. MGC: [Isaac Wardell, widower, wheel wright, age 54yrs, m:1871-01-30, Mary Ann Maria Richards, spinster, age 33yrs, at York in county of PMB, signed in presence of William Horsley and Sarah? Horsley. Married in the house of William Horsley.]: Isaac Wardell: How does he fit into the Wardell tree ?. Is anyone interested in this area od research ?. - S.K.M. – [!!!] ==================

    10/24/2013 04:52:46
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ancestry24
    2. Shames Marcella
    3. Maybe they will have enough leverage to get all ZA records online - whoohoo Even pay-as-you-go credits work - I use that method for Scotland records - bit pricey but at least I can get them At least ancestry24's database is not lost - so even if one has to request ancestry.com lookups from the kind folk who have subscriptions - it's better than nothing Marcella On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Keith Meintjes <[email protected]> wrote: >> This is really good news > > It might be. > > We will see what Ancestry.com does. One concern I have is ancestry.com is > really expensive, which might be OK if you are interested in their UK or USA > records. If you are only interested in ZA records, what will the cost be? > > But, I think the proof will be if ancestry.com proceeds to add to the ZA > records, and not just do a one-time buy of ancestry24. > > We shall see. > > Keith > > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:17:35 PM EDT > From: Shames Marcella <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ancestry24 > > This is really good news > > Marcella > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/23/2013 12:49:47
    1. [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ancestry24
    2. Dennis Pretorius
    3. Hallo Jenn and all other listers In response to the announcement and press release by Ancestry.com that they have acquired the Ancestry24 database I wrote to them and their answer is clear - what was free on Ancestry24 will remain free on Ancestry.com I append the correspondence hereunder Kind regards From: Heather Erickson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 5:43 PM To: Dennis Pretorius Cc: Petro Coreejes-Brink; Adrian Leighton; Bryony Partridge Subject: RE: Ancestry24 transfer-media announcement [1 Attachment] Hi Dennis, Thanks for your email. I appreciate you forwarding along your inquiry so that we could respond promptly. You’ll be pleased to hear that anything currently free on Ancestry24 (those contributions that have been donated by volunteers for free) will remain free and will not be charged for on Ancestry. This includes the grave images that you referenced in your email. I hope this information helps you. Best regards, Heather HEATHER ERICKSON Sr. Dir, US PR & Corp Comm Ancestry.com P 801 705 7104 E [email protected] A 360 W 4800 N Provo, UT 84604 From: Dennis Pretorius [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:06 AM To: Bryony Partridge; Heather Erickson Cc: Petro Coreejes-Brink Subject: Ancestry24 transfer-media announcement [1 Attachment] Good Morning I append an e-mail that was addressed to Adrian Leighton but which was returned having been notified that he is on leave, Could either of you please respond to the e-mail Kind regards From: Dennis Pretorius [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 1:57 PM To: '[email protected]' Cc: Petro Coreejes-Brink ([email protected]) Subject: Ancestry24 transfer Good Morning Adrian I must firstly say that I am thankful that Ancestry24 has finally made a decision to do something about accessibility of their data which has for too long been inaccessible to South African Genealogists. I am also very happy that it has found its way to a reputable company which has the capacity to manage the data. My concern which I wish to express to you today is that data that was made available to donors and contributors to Ancestry24 for free access now find them in a situation that that data which was accumulated by free donations of time and effort will potentially be “sold” by Ancestry.com in future. I therefore would like to establish whether data that was previously accessible without charge on Ancestry24 will that data still be accessible without charge – and in particular my interest lies in the data of the grave images ? I look forward to your response Kind regards Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp South Africa Tel – 011-762-8911 Cel - 083-679-8541 Fax – 086-609-8541 Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp South Africa Tel – 011-762-8911 Cel - 083-679-8541 Fax – 086-609-8541 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graham and Jennifer Lloyd Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ancestry24 Just wonder if all the info that was contributed freely by volunteers, will be freely accessible!!!! Hmmmmmmmmmm Cheers Jenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Meintjes" <[email protected]> To: "SA List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:20 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ancestry24 > > ANCESTRY.COM PURCHASES FAMILY HISTORY RECORDS FROM MEDIA24 > > > Ancestry.com, the world’s largest online family history resource, has > acquired over four million South African records from Ancestry24, the > South > African family history website. > > Ancestry.com intends to make the records available to members in the > future, > adding to the company’s existing 12 billion records that already help > millions of people worldwide discover, preserve and share their family > history. > > Anyone looking to find out more information about the records should visit > http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry24, as Ancestry24.co.za is officially > closed > as at 22 Oct 2013. > About Ancestry.com > > Ancestry.com is the world's largest online family history resource with > approximately 2.7 million paying subscribers across all its websites. More > than 12 billion records have been added to the Ancestry.com sites and > users > have created more than 50 million family trees containing more than 5 > billion > profiles. In addition to its flagship site www.ancestry.com, the company > operates several Ancestry international websites along with a suite of > online > family history brands including Archives.com, Fold3.com and > Newspapers.com, > all designed to empower people to discover, preserve and share their > family > history. > About Ancestry24.co.za > > Ancestry24 is South Africa’s largest and most comprehensive genealogy > website. Consisting of hundreds of databases with millions of records, the > online archive and research service aims to preserve South Africa’s > history > for future generations. The site contains millions of records on > individuals > who have lived in South Africa since the late 1600s. Transcribed from > original > documents and reliable resources, records include births, baptisms, > marriages, > deaths, burials, passenger lists and voter lists. There is also a large > grave > image library. > > We regret that this decision may adversely affect many users, but we are > excited that South African users will still be served at Ancestry.com. We > can’t thank you enough for your support and input. > > Media Contact: | Adrian Leighton | +44 (0) 20 8846 3628 | > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/22/2013 12:46:36
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ancestry24
    2. Graham and Jennifer Lloyd
    3. Just wonder if all the info that was contributed freely by volunteers, will be freely accessible!!!! Hmmmmmmmmmm Cheers Jenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Meintjes" <[email protected]> To: "SA List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:20 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ancestry24 > > ANCESTRY.COM PURCHASES FAMILY HISTORY RECORDS FROM MEDIA24 > > > Ancestry.com, the world’s largest online family history resource, has > acquired over four million South African records from Ancestry24, the > South > African family history website. > > Ancestry.com intends to make the records available to members in the > future, > adding to the company’s existing 12 billion records that already help > millions of people worldwide discover, preserve and share their family > history. > > Anyone looking to find out more information about the records should visit > http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry24, as Ancestry24.co.za is officially > closed > as at 22 Oct 2013. > About Ancestry.com > > Ancestry.com is the world's largest online family history resource with > approximately 2.7 million paying subscribers across all its websites. More > than 12 billion records have been added to the Ancestry.com sites and > users > have created more than 50 million family trees containing more than 5 > billion > profiles. In addition to its flagship site www.ancestry.com, the company > operates several Ancestry international websites along with a suite of > online > family history brands including Archives.com, Fold3.com and > Newspapers.com, > all designed to empower people to discover, preserve and share their > family > history. > About Ancestry24.co.za > > Ancestry24 is South Africa’s largest and most comprehensive genealogy > website. Consisting of hundreds of databases with millions of records, the > online archive and research service aims to preserve South Africa’s > history > for future generations. The site contains millions of records on > individuals > who have lived in South Africa since the late 1600s. Transcribed from > original > documents and reliable resources, records include births, baptisms, > marriages, > deaths, burials, passenger lists and voter lists. There is also a large > grave > image library. > > We regret that this decision may adversely affect many users, but we are > excited that South African users will still be served at Ancestry.com. We > can’t thank you enough for your support and input. > > Media Contact: | Adrian Leighton | +44 (0) 20 8846 3628 | > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/22/2013 12:26:57
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ancestry24
    2. Keith Meintjes
    3. > This is really good news It might be. We will see what Ancestry.com does. One concern I have is ancestry.com is really expensive, which might be OK if you are interested in their UK or USA records. If you are only interested in ZA records, what will the cost be? But, I think the proof will be if ancestry.com proceeds to add to the ZA records, and not just do a one-time buy of ancestry24. We shall see. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:17:35 PM EDT From: Shames Marcella <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ancestry24 This is really good news Marcella

    10/22/2013 11:29:56
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ancestry24
    2. Shames Marcella
    3. This is really good news Marcella On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:26 PM, "Graham and Jennifer Lloyd" <[email protected]> wrote: > Just wonder if all the info that was contributed freely by volunteers, will > be freely accessible!!!! > Hmmmmmmmmmm > > Cheers > Jenn > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Meintjes" <[email protected]> > To: "SA List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:20 PM > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ancestry24 > > >> >> ANCESTRY.COM PURCHASES FAMILY HISTORY RECORDS FROM MEDIA24 >> >> >> Ancestry.com, the world’s largest online family history resource, has >> acquired over four million South African records from Ancestry24, the >> South >> African family history website. >> >> Ancestry.com intends to make the records available to members in the >> future, >> adding to the company’s existing 12 billion records that already help >> millions of people worldwide discover, preserve and share their family >> history. >> >> Anyone looking to find out more information about the records should visit >> http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry24, as Ancestry24.co.za is officially >> closed >> as at 22 Oct 2013. >> About Ancestry.com >> >> Ancestry.com is the world's largest online family history resource with >> approximately 2.7 million paying subscribers across all its websites. More >> than 12 billion records have been added to the Ancestry.com sites and >> users >> have created more than 50 million family trees containing more than 5 >> billion >> profiles. In addition to its flagship site www.ancestry.com, the company >> operates several Ancestry international websites along with a suite of >> online >> family history brands including Archives.com, Fold3.com and >> Newspapers.com, >> all designed to empower people to discover, preserve and share their >> family >> history. >> About Ancestry24.co.za >> >> Ancestry24 is South Africa’s largest and most comprehensive genealogy >> website. Consisting of hundreds of databases with millions of records, the >> online archive and research service aims to preserve South Africa’s >> history >> for future generations. The site contains millions of records on >> individuals >> who have lived in South Africa since the late 1600s. Transcribed from >> original >> documents and reliable resources, records include births, baptisms, >> marriages, >> deaths, burials, passenger lists and voter lists. There is also a large >> grave >> image library. >> >> We regret that this decision may adversely affect many users, but we are >> excited that South African users will still be served at Ancestry.com. We >> can’t thank you enough for your support and input. >> >> Media Contact: | Adrian Leighton | +44 (0) 20 8846 3628 | >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/22/2013 09:13:28
    1. [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ancestry24
    2. Keith Meintjes
    3. ANCESTRY.COM PURCHASES FAMILY HISTORY RECORDS FROM MEDIA24 Ancestry.com, the world’s largest online family history resource, has acquired over four million South African records from Ancestry24, the South African family history website. Ancestry.com intends to make the records available to members in the future, adding to the company’s existing 12 billion records that already help millions of people worldwide discover, preserve and share their family history. Anyone looking to find out more information about the records should visit http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry24, as Ancestry24.co.za is officially closed as at 22 Oct 2013. About Ancestry.com Ancestry.com is the world's largest online family history resource with approximately 2.7 million paying subscribers across all its websites. More than 12 billion records have been added to the Ancestry.com sites and users have created more than 50 million family trees containing more than 5 billion profiles. In addition to its flagship site www.ancestry.com, the company operates several Ancestry international websites along with a suite of online family history brands including Archives.com, Fold3.com and Newspapers.com, all designed to empower people to discover, preserve and share their family history. About Ancestry24.co.za Ancestry24 is South Africa’s largest and most comprehensive genealogy website. Consisting of hundreds of databases with millions of records, the online archive and research service aims to preserve South Africa’s history for future generations. The site contains millions of records on individuals who have lived in South Africa since the late 1600s. Transcribed from original documents and reliable resources, records include births, baptisms, marriages, deaths, burials, passenger lists and voter lists. There is also a large grave image library. We regret that this decision may adversely affect many users, but we are excited that South African users will still be served at Ancestry.com. We can’t thank you enough for your support and input. Media Contact: | Adrian Leighton | +44 (0) 20 8846 3628 | [email protected]

    10/22/2013 06:20:06
  1. 10/22/2013 04:22:16
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 316
    2. Quality Matters
    3. Many thanks for the help in researching Madeline Clare Kind Regards, Alan Sheath > On 18/10/2013, at 8:00 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. OFF TOPIC - CAPE TOWN 1890-TODAY (joy) > 2. Re: Colonial Clippers (Irfaan Harris) > 3. Re: OFF TOPIC - CAPE TOWN 1890-TODAY ( glynis) > 4. re TALJAARD (Carol Beneke) > 5. Information on Clare (Quality Matters) > 6. Re: Information on Clare (Heather MacAlister) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 09:27:53 +0200 > From: "joy" <[email protected]> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] OFF TOPIC - CAPE TOWN 1890-TODAY > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Morning all - > > With my comment having been totally ignored on the Cape Town list, I am > hopefully trying to see if I have more luck here. > > Apart from being a Genie, I am also a keen Ameteur Photographer, and belong > to the Cape Town Photographic Society (CTPS). > > CTPS - having been founded in 1890 - turns 125 on 30 October 2015 - just > over 2 years from now. > > I am thinking of gathering as much info relating to what Cape Town was like > in that era, what cars were available, what earth-shattering discoveries > were taking place, and so on, in order to produce a documentary slide show > covering the > key events in the intervening 125 years. > > So - 2 years is not that long - considering the research that needs to be > done - which is why I am writing to you all. > > Please will those who know where historical gems are hiding let me know, so > that I can sniff them out, PHOTOGRAPH them, and make the documentary. > > Many thanks in advance > Joy Wellbeloved CTPS Audio-Visual Section co-ordinator > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 01:09:32 -0700 (PDT) > From: Irfaan Harris <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Colonial Clippers > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > and you can also look at? http://www.eicships.info/ > > > Irfaan Ivan William Harris > ? > RSA +27 10 500 3742 ZA > RSA +27 31 100 2342 ZA > UK?? +44 13 4420 6112 > USA +1 408 300 9486 ?From: East India Company Ships <[email protected]> > To: Irfaan Harris <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:18 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: ship Prince Regent of Westminster Capt Thomas Harris and the book Villages of the Liesbeck. > > > Hi there > > The vessel is simply called Prince Regent, and it is my reference number 1130. The vessel was launched in 1811 by shipbuilders Wells, Wigram and Green, in Blackwall, London, for Principal Managing Owner Henry Bonham. > > Thomas Herbert Harris was the commander of the first four voyages of the ship. > > I'm sorry that I have not yet got around to putting the information on my website.? > > The logs of the vessel and other original information is at the British Library. > > kind regards > Andrea Cordani ? MA, MBCS > East India Company Ships > http://www.eicships.info/ > > > On 26 February 2013 08:21, Irfaan Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > > ? >> Hello >> >> I am looking for information? - which i could not find on your website: of a ship called Prince Regent of Westminster. >> >> Please would you comment. >> >> Quote >> >> Will of Thomas Herbert Harris, Captain of The Honorable the East India Company's Ship the Prince Regent of Westminster, Middlesex 29 November 1819 >> >> Unquote >> >> >> Thank you >> >> Irfaan Ivan William Harris > ? > RSA +27 10 500 3742 ZA > RSA +27 31 100 2342 ZA > UK?? +44 13 4420 6112 > USA +1 408 300 9486 > > > ________________________________ > From: Dennis Pretorius <[email protected]> > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:25 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Colonial Clippers > > > WOW !! > > > > I asked a question about the Gipsy Bride and had so many answers that I > still cannot believe it !!? > > > > I was actually sitting trying to connect to ABSA to transfer money to order > an e-book from ABEBOOKS when I looked at my e-mail and had so many replies > offering advice and links and a link to a free download of the book. > > > > I have since downloaded and found only a "passing" reference to GIPSY BRIDE > but all the links provided by all has given me a wealth of information about > the sailings and destinations of the ship > > > > I thank everyone who answered my question - I was overwhelmed by the > response on both lists. Many thanks > > > > I however still do not have a photograph or sketch of the ship - my search > continues. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Dennis Pretorius > > Krugersdorp South Africa > > Tel - 011-762-8911 > > Cel -? 083-679-8541 > > Fax - 086-609-8541 > > > > From: moonshell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:30 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Colonial Clippers > > > > Hi Dennis, > > I have just ordered a copy of this book.? It will be here in a few weeks so > if you have not yet received the information you need, I will be able to > help you in a little while. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:26:45 +0200 > From: " glynis" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] OFF TOPIC - CAPE TOWN 1890-TODAY > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAANRmCJZ/[email protected]k.co.za> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Morning Joy, > > Please contact me as I have some lovely post cards on Cape town which I > inherited from my gt grandfather. You may be interested. > > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of joy > Sent: 17 October 2013 09:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] OFF TOPIC - CAPE TOWN 1890-TODAY > > Morning all - > > With my comment having been totally ignored on the Cape Town list, I am > hopefully trying to see if I have more luck here. > > Apart from being a Genie, I am also a keen Ameteur Photographer, and belong > to the Cape Town Photographic Society (CTPS). > > CTPS - having been founded in 1890 - turns 125 on 30 October 2015 - just > over 2 years from now. > > I am thinking of gathering as much info relating to what Cape Town was like > in that era, what cars were available, what earth-shattering discoveries > were taking place, and so on, in order to produce a documentary slide show > covering the key events in the intervening 125 years. > > So - 2 years is not that long - considering the research that needs to be > done - which is why I am writing to you all. > > Please will those who know where historical gems are hiding let me know, so > that I can sniff them out, PHOTOGRAPH them, and make the documentary. > > Many thanks in advance > Joy Wellbeloved CTPS Audio-Visual Section co-ordinator > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:31:51 +0200 > From: "Carol Beneke" <[email protected]> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] re TALJAARD > To: "Rootsweb - E.C." <[email protected]>, > "Rootsweb - S.A." <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi List > > Is there anyone on the list that can help me please. I believe a book has been published on the TALJAARD?s. Does anyone know if such a book was published also where I might be able to purchase it. > > Kind regards > Carol BENEKE nee STEWART > Port Elizabeth, South Africa. > 083 482 1482 > [email protected] > ________________________ > Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE > and related families. (26 years) > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/ > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 11:33:13 +1300 > From: Quality Matters <[email protected]> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Information on Clare > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > First time request. I am looking for the birth record of Madeline Clare daughter of Douglas and Jean ( nee Finch) @ 1950-1953. If anyone can help or point me in right direction. I am researching from New Zealand so very remote > > Kind Regards, > Alan Sheath > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 08:28:02 +0200 > From: Heather MacAlister <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Information on Clare > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Alan > The only place is the Department of Home Affairs - as you live in New Zealand i suggest you contact the local South African Embassy on Consulate. > regards > Heather > > > Heather MacAlister > > Clanwilliam Museum and Family History Centre https://www.facebook.com/pages/Clanwilliam-Museum-and-Family-History-Centre/595718640455429 > > Cell: 082-8082251 > Email: [email protected] > Twitter: africanaunty > Skype: africanaunty > > za.linkedin.com/pub/heather-woodland-macalister/6/40b/338 > > > > >> On 18 Oct 2013, at 12:33 AM, Quality Matters <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> First time request. I am looking for the birth record of Madeline Clare daughter of Douglas and Jean ( nee Finch) @ 1950-1953. If anyone can help or point me in right direction. I am researching from New Zealand so very remote >> >> Kind Regards, >> Alan Sheath >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 316 > ********************************************

    10/18/2013 03:37:31
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 316
    2. janet Taylor
    3. There are a few 'cape town down memory lane' facebook pages filled with wonderful memories and photos. May be a good place for you to start Janet On 18 October 2013 08:00, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. OFF TOPIC - CAPE TOWN 1890-TODAY (joy) > 2. Re: Colonial Clippers (Irfaan Harris) > 3. Re: OFF TOPIC - CAPE TOWN 1890-TODAY ( glynis) > 4. re TALJAARD (Carol Beneke) > 5. Information on Clare (Quality Matters) > 6. Re: Information on Clare (Heather MacAlister) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 09:27:53 +0200 > From: "joy" <[email protected]> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] OFF TOPIC - CAPE TOWN 1890-TODAY > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Morning all - > > With my comment having been totally ignored on the Cape Town list, I am > hopefully trying to see if I have more luck here. > > Apart from being a Genie, I am also a keen Ameteur Photographer, and belong > to the Cape Town Photographic Society (CTPS). > > CTPS - having been founded in 1890 - turns 125 on 30 October 2015 - just > over 2 years from now. > > I am thinking of gathering as much info relating to what Cape Town was like > in that era, what cars were available, what earth-shattering discoveries > were taking place, and so on, in order to produce a documentary slide show > covering the > key events in the intervening 125 years. > > So - 2 years is not that long - considering the research that needs to be > done - which is why I am writing to you all. > > Please will those who know where historical gems are hiding let me know, so > that I can sniff them out, PHOTOGRAPH them, and make the documentary. > > Many thanks in advance > Joy Wellbeloved CTPS Audio-Visual Section co-ordinator > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 01:09:32 -0700 (PDT) > From: Irfaan Harris <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Colonial Clippers > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > and you can also look at? http://www.eicships.info/ > > > Irfaan Ivan William Harris > ? > RSA +27 10 500 3742 ZA > RSA +27 31 100 2342 ZA > UK?? +44 13 4420 6112 > USA +1 408 300 9486 ?From: East India Company Ships <[email protected]> > To: Irfaan Harris <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:18 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: ship Prince Regent of Westminster Capt Thomas Harris and > the book Villages of the Liesbeck. > > > Hi there > > The vessel is simply called Prince Regent, and it is my reference number > 1130. The vessel was launched in 1811 by shipbuilders Wells, Wigram and > Green, in Blackwall, London, for Principal Managing Owner Henry Bonham. > > Thomas Herbert Harris was the commander of the first four voyages of the > ship. > > I'm sorry that I have not yet got around to putting the information on my > website.? > > The logs of the vessel and other original information is at the British > Library. > > kind regards > Andrea Cordani ? MA, MBCS > East India Company Ships > http://www.eicships.info/ > > > On 26 February 2013 08:21, Irfaan Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > > ? > >Hello > > > >I am looking for information? - which i could not find on your website: > of a ship called Prince Regent of Westminster. > > > >Please would you comment. > > > >Quote > > > >Will of Thomas Herbert Harris, Captain of The Honorable the East India > Company's Ship the Prince Regent of Westminster, Middlesex 29 November 1819 > > > >Unquote > > > > > >Thank you > > > >Irfaan Ivan William Harris > ? > RSA +27 10 500 3742 ZA > RSA +27 31 100 2342 ZA > UK?? +44 13 4420 6112 > USA +1 408 300 9486 > > > ________________________________ > From: Dennis Pretorius <[email protected]> > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:25 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Colonial Clippers > > > WOW !! > > > > I asked a question about the Gipsy Bride and had so many answers that I > still cannot believe it !!? > > > > I was actually sitting trying to connect to ABSA to transfer money to order > an e-book from ABEBOOKS when I looked at my e-mail and had so many replies > offering advice and links and a link to a free download of the book. > > > > I have since downloaded and found only a "passing" reference to GIPSY BRIDE > but all the links provided by all has given me a wealth of information > about > the sailings and destinations of the ship > > > > I thank everyone who answered my question - I was overwhelmed by the > response on both lists. Many thanks > > > > I however still do not have a photograph or sketch of the ship - my search > continues. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Dennis Pretorius > > Krugersdorp South Africa > > Tel - 011-762-8911 > > Cel -? 083-679-8541 > > Fax - 086-609-8541 > > > > From: moonshell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:30 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Colonial Clippers > > > > Hi Dennis, > > I have just ordered a copy of this book.? It will be here in a few weeks so > if you have not yet received the information you need, I will be able to > help you in a little while. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:26:45 +0200 > From: " glynis" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] OFF TOPIC - CAPE TOWN 1890-TODAY > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > > <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAANRmCJZ/[email protected] > kwikmark.co.za> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Morning Joy, > > Please contact me as I have some lovely post cards on Cape town which I > inherited from my gt grandfather. You may be interested. > > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of joy > Sent: 17 October 2013 09:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] OFF TOPIC - CAPE TOWN 1890-TODAY > > Morning all - > > With my comment having been totally ignored on the Cape Town list, I am > hopefully trying to see if I have more luck here. > > Apart from being a Genie, I am also a keen Ameteur Photographer, and belong > to the Cape Town Photographic Society (CTPS). > > CTPS - having been founded in 1890 - turns 125 on 30 October 2015 - just > over 2 years from now. > > I am thinking of gathering as much info relating to what Cape Town was like > in that era, what cars were available, what earth-shattering discoveries > were taking place, and so on, in order to produce a documentary slide show > covering the key events in the intervening 125 years. > > So - 2 years is not that long - considering the research that needs to be > done - which is why I am writing to you all. > > Please will those who know where historical gems are hiding let me know, so > that I can sniff them out, PHOTOGRAPH them, and make the documentary. > > Many thanks in advance > Joy Wellbeloved CTPS Audio-Visual Section co-ordinator > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:31:51 +0200 > From: "Carol Beneke" <[email protected]> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] re TALJAARD > To: "Rootsweb - E.C." <[email protected]>, > "Rootsweb - S.A." <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi List > > Is there anyone on the list that can help me please. I believe a book has > been published on the TALJAARD?s. Does anyone know if such a book was > published also where I might be able to purchase it. > > Kind regards > Carol BENEKE nee STEWART > Port Elizabeth, South Africa. > 083 482 1482 > [email protected] > ________________________ > Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE > and related families. (26 years) > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/ > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 11:33:13 +1300 > From: Quality Matters <[email protected]> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Information on Clare > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > First time request. I am looking for the birth record of Madeline Clare > daughter of Douglas and Jean ( nee Finch) @ 1950-1953. If anyone can help > or point me in right direction. I am researching from New Zealand so very > remote > > Kind Regards, > Alan Sheath > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 08:28:02 +0200 > From: Heather MacAlister <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Information on Clare > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Alan > The only place is the Department of Home Affairs - as you live in New > Zealand i suggest you contact the local South African Embassy on Consulate. > regards > Heather > > > Heather MacAlister > > Clanwilliam Museum and Family History Centre > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Clanwilliam-Museum-and-Family-History-Centre/595718640455429 > > Cell: 082-8082251 > Email: [email protected] > Twitter: africanaunty > Skype: africanaunty > > za.linkedin.com/pub/heather-woodland-macalister/6/40b/338 > > > > > On 18 Oct 2013, at 12:33 AM, Quality Matters <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > First time request. I am looking for the birth record of Madeline Clare > daughter of Douglas and Jean ( nee Finch) @ 1950-1953. If anyone can help > or point me in right direction. I am researching from New Zealand so very > remote > > > > Kind Regards, > > Alan Sheath > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 316 > ******************************************** >

    10/18/2013 08:07:22
    1. [SOUTH-AFRICA] Information on Clare
    2. Quality Matters
    3. First time request. I am looking for the birth record of Madeline Clare daughter of Douglas and Jean ( nee Finch) @ 1950-1953. If anyone can help or point me in right direction. I am researching from New Zealand so very remote Kind Regards, Alan Sheath

    10/18/2013 05:33:13
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Information on Clare
    2. Heather MacAlister
    3. Hi Alan The only place is the Department of Home Affairs - as you live in New Zealand i suggest you contact the local South African Embassy on Consulate. regards Heather Heather MacAlister Clanwilliam Museum and Family History Centre https://www.facebook.com/pages/Clanwilliam-Museum-and-Family-History-Centre/595718640455429 Cell: 082-8082251 Email: [email protected] Twitter: africanaunty Skype: africanaunty za.linkedin.com/pub/heather-woodland-macalister/6/40b/338 On 18 Oct 2013, at 12:33 AM, Quality Matters <[email protected]> wrote: > First time request. I am looking for the birth record of Madeline Clare daughter of Douglas and Jean ( nee Finch) @ 1950-1953. If anyone can help or point me in right direction. I am researching from New Zealand so very remote > > Kind Regards, > Alan Sheath > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/18/2013 02:28:02
    1. [SOUTH-AFRICA] re TALJAARD
    2. Carol Beneke
    3. Hi List Is there anyone on the list that can help me please. I believe a book has been published on the TALJAARD’s. Does anyone know if such a book was published also where I might be able to purchase it. Kind regards Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 [email protected] ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. (26 years) https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/

    10/17/2013 02:31:51
    1. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] OFF TOPIC - CAPE TOWN 1890-TODAY
    2. glynis
    3. Morning Joy, Please contact me as I have some lovely post cards on Cape town which I inherited from my gt grandfather. You may be interested. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of joy Sent: 17 October 2013 09:28 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] OFF TOPIC - CAPE TOWN 1890-TODAY Morning all - With my comment having been totally ignored on the Cape Town list, I am hopefully trying to see if I have more luck here. Apart from being a Genie, I am also a keen Ameteur Photographer, and belong to the Cape Town Photographic Society (CTPS). CTPS - having been founded in 1890 - turns 125 on 30 October 2015 - just over 2 years from now. I am thinking of gathering as much info relating to what Cape Town was like in that era, what cars were available, what earth-shattering discoveries were taking place, and so on, in order to produce a documentary slide show covering the key events in the intervening 125 years. So - 2 years is not that long - considering the research that needs to be done - which is why I am writing to you all. Please will those who know where historical gems are hiding let me know, so that I can sniff them out, PHOTOGRAPH them, and make the documentary. Many thanks in advance Joy Wellbeloved CTPS Audio-Visual Section co-ordinator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/17/2013 05:26:45
    1. [SOUTH-AFRICA] OFF TOPIC - CAPE TOWN 1890-TODAY
    2. joy
    3. Morning all - With my comment having been totally ignored on the Cape Town list, I am hopefully trying to see if I have more luck here. Apart from being a Genie, I am also a keen Ameteur Photographer, and belong to the Cape Town Photographic Society (CTPS). CTPS - having been founded in 1890 - turns 125 on 30 October 2015 - just over 2 years from now. I am thinking of gathering as much info relating to what Cape Town was like in that era, what cars were available, what earth-shattering discoveries were taking place, and so on, in order to produce a documentary slide show covering the key events in the intervening 125 years. So - 2 years is not that long - considering the research that needs to be done - which is why I am writing to you all. Please will those who know where historical gems are hiding let me know, so that I can sniff them out, PHOTOGRAPH them, and make the documentary. Many thanks in advance Joy Wellbeloved CTPS Audio-Visual Section co-ordinator

    10/17/2013 03:27:53