Merry Christmas to you all, Would like information from anyone researching the surname BREMNER, FLEETWOOD and TOBIAS. What I have got grandfather, grandmother and father: Father Donald E BREMNER and his mother Margaret H FLEETWOOD, Charles D BREMNER born 1910 Regards Andrea Franks

Hi Rod In case it is of any use, the Natal Marriage index has: Sidney Southey STIRK aged 23 marrying Alice Maud WILSON aged 22 in Durban on 31 Jan 1901 at the Presbyterian Church. No STIRK witnesses. (LDS film 1792035 #2019) Also Sidney John Southey STIRK aged 25 (born 23 Jan 1930 In Grahamstown) marrying Leonne Wynne VERMAAK aged 24 at All Saints Church, Bellair (LDS film 1938637 # 551). There is a STIRK witness but it is difficult to read the initials. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 26 December 2013 06:56 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Good Afternoon from a sweltering Cape Town, Can any of the STIRK researchers kindly assist. I have a Richard STIRK in my data base, no dates, and I have his parents as Sydney Southey STIRK born on 04.04.1877 died 01.02.1969 who married Ethel KEETON born in 1874 died 01.08.1926 I have now picked up in the LEVEY book a Richard Southey STIRK born on 10.04.1918 died 27.11.1983 who married Valerie Moira LEVEY. Could this be the same Richard? Any help would be appreciated. Regards to all, Rod g Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6951 - Release Date: 12/26/13

I will photograph it and send it to you. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 04:47:48 AM EST From: "Denise Igesund" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Thank you so much that is what I thought. Are you able to tell me where I can get a copy. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 27 December 2013 11:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Steinhobel is on two pages in SAG 12, 173-4. The total is about one column, half a page. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 04:31:31 AM EST From: "Denise Igesund" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Is there anyone that can help me with an entry in SA Genealogies for Steinhobel. I have one page but I feel like the page should extend onto the next. Denise -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 27 December 2013 10:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Rod, There is a listing in SA Genealogies 12, p. 269. Also, check out the 1820 Settlers site, 1820settlers.com: Name Richard Southey Stirk Born 10 Apr 1918 Gender Male Died 27 Nov 1983 Grahamstown, Eastern Cape Province, South Africa Find all individuals with events at this location Eastern Province Herald. 30 Nov 1983 STIRK. – Richard Southey (Dick), husband of Val and father of Shirley and Duane, Ronald and Marlene, Joy and Hutch, pops of Wendy, Timothy and Michelle, passed away at the West Wing, Settlers Hospital, Grahamstown, on November 27, 1983. A memorial service will be held in St Bartholomew’s Church, Market Street, Grahamstown, on Thursday, December 1, 1983, at 2 p.m. Cremation private. Person ID I6591 master Last Modified 6 Oct 2013 Father Sydney Southey Stirk Click to preview: Sydney Southey Stirk, b. 4 Apr 1877, Grahamstown, Eastern Cape Province, South Africa Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 1 Feb 1968 Mother Ethel Keeton Click to preview: Ethel Keeton, b. Abt 1874 Family ID F2586 Group Sheet Family Valerie Moira Levey Click to preview: Valerie Moira Levey Children 1. Shirley Stirk Click to preview: Shirley Stirk 2. Ronald Stirk Click to preview: Ronald Stirk 3. Joy Stirk Click to preview: Joy Stirk Last Modified 6 Oct 2013 Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:42:06 AM EST From: "Milly & Adrian Rowe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Hi Rod In case it is of any use, the Natal Marriage index has: Sidney Southey STIRK aged 23 marrying Alice Maud WILSON aged 22 in Durban on 31 Jan 1901 at the Presbyterian Church. No STIRK witnesses. (LDS film 1792035 #2019) Also Sidney John Southey STIRK aged 25 (born 23 Jan 1930 In Grahamstown) marrying Leonne Wynne VERMAAK aged 24 at All Saints Church, Bellair (LDS film 1938637 # 551). There is a STIRK witness but it is difficult to read the initials. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 26 December 2013 06:56 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Good Afternoon from a sweltering Cape Town, Can any of the STIRK researchers kindly assist. I have a Richard STIRK in my data base, no dates, and I have his parents as Sydney Southey STIRK born on 04.04.1877 died 01.02.1969 who married Ethel KEETON born in 1874 died 01.08.1926 I have now picked up in the LEVEY book a Richard Southey STIRK born on 10.04.1918 died 27.11.1983 who married Valerie Moira LEVEY. Could this be the same Richard? Any help would be appreciated. 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Steinhobel is on two pages in SAG 12, 173-4. The total is about one column, half a page. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 04:31:31 AM EST From: "Denise Igesund" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Is there anyone that can help me with an entry in SA Genealogies for Steinhobel. I have one page but I feel like the page should extend onto the next. Denise -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 27 December 2013 10:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Rod, There is a listing in SA Genealogies 12, p. 269. Also, check out the 1820 Settlers site, 1820settlers.com: Name Richard Southey Stirk Born 10 Apr 1918 Gender Male Died 27 Nov 1983 Grahamstown, Eastern Cape Province, South Africa Find all individuals with events at this location Eastern Province Herald. 30 Nov 1983 STIRK. – Richard Southey (Dick), husband of Val and father of Shirley and Duane, Ronald and Marlene, Joy and Hutch, pops of Wendy, Timothy and Michelle, passed away at the West Wing, Settlers Hospital, Grahamstown, on November 27, 1983. A memorial service will be held in St Bartholomew’s Church, Market Street, Grahamstown, on Thursday, December 1, 1983, at 2 p.m. Cremation private. Person ID I6591 master Last Modified 6 Oct 2013 Father Sydney Southey Stirk Click to preview: Sydney Southey Stirk, b. 4 Apr 1877, Grahamstown, Eastern Cape Province, South Africa Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 1 Feb 1968 Mother Ethel Keeton Click to preview: Ethel Keeton, b. Abt 1874 Family ID F2586 Group Sheet Family Valerie Moira Levey Click to preview: Valerie Moira Levey Children 1. Shirley Stirk Click to preview: Shirley Stirk 2. Ronald Stirk Click to preview: Ronald Stirk 3. Joy Stirk Click to preview: Joy Stirk Last Modified 6 Oct 2013 Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:42:06 AM EST From: "Milly & Adrian Rowe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Hi Rod In case it is of any use, the Natal Marriage index has: Sidney Southey STIRK aged 23 marrying Alice Maud WILSON aged 22 in Durban on 31 Jan 1901 at the Presbyterian Church. No STIRK witnesses. (LDS film 1792035 #2019) Also Sidney John Southey STIRK aged 25 (born 23 Jan 1930 In Grahamstown) marrying Leonne Wynne VERMAAK aged 24 at All Saints Church, Bellair (LDS film 1938637 # 551). There is a STIRK witness but it is difficult to read the initials. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 26 December 2013 06:56 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Good Afternoon from a sweltering Cape Town, Can any of the STIRK researchers kindly assist. I have a Richard STIRK in my data base, no dates, and I have his parents as Sydney Southey STIRK born on 04.04.1877 died 01.02.1969 who married Ethel KEETON born in 1874 died 01.08.1926 I have now picked up in the LEVEY book a Richard Southey STIRK born on 10.04.1918 died 27.11.1983 who married Valerie Moira LEVEY. Could this be the same Richard? Any help would be appreciated. Regards to all, Rod g Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6951 - Release Date: 12/26/13 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rod, There is a listing in SA Genealogies 12, p. 269. Also, check out the 1820 Settlers site, 1820settlers.com: Name Richard Southey Stirk Born 10 Apr 1918 Gender Male Died 27 Nov 1983 Grahamstown, Eastern Cape Province, South Africa Find all individuals with events at this location Eastern Province Herald. 30 Nov 1983 STIRK. – Richard Southey (Dick), husband of Val and father of Shirley and Duane, Ronald and Marlene, Joy and Hutch, pops of Wendy, Timothy and Michelle, passed away at the West Wing, Settlers Hospital, Grahamstown, on November 27, 1983. A memorial service will be held in St Bartholomew’s Church, Market Street, Grahamstown, on Thursday, December 1, 1983, at 2 p.m. Cremation private. Person ID I6591 master Last Modified 6 Oct 2013 Father Sydney Southey Stirk Click to preview: Sydney Southey Stirk, b. 4 Apr 1877, Grahamstown, Eastern Cape Province, South Africa Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 1 Feb 1968 Mother Ethel Keeton Click to preview: Ethel Keeton, b. Abt 1874 Family ID F2586 Group Sheet Family Valerie Moira Levey Click to preview: Valerie Moira Levey Children 1. Shirley Stirk Click to preview: Shirley Stirk 2. Ronald Stirk Click to preview: Ronald Stirk 3. Joy Stirk Click to preview: Joy Stirk Last Modified 6 Oct 2013 Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:42:06 AM EST From: "Milly & Adrian Rowe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Hi Rod In case it is of any use, the Natal Marriage index has: Sidney Southey STIRK aged 23 marrying Alice Maud WILSON aged 22 in Durban on 31 Jan 1901 at the Presbyterian Church. No STIRK witnesses. (LDS film 1792035 #2019) Also Sidney John Southey STIRK aged 25 (born 23 Jan 1930 In Grahamstown) marrying Leonne Wynne VERMAAK aged 24 at All Saints Church, Bellair (LDS film 1938637 # 551). There is a STIRK witness but it is difficult to read the initials. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 26 December 2013 06:56 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Good Afternoon from a sweltering Cape Town, Can any of the STIRK researchers kindly assist. I have a Richard STIRK in my data base, no dates, and I have his parents as Sydney Southey STIRK born on 04.04.1877 died 01.02.1969 who married Ethel KEETON born in 1874 died 01.08.1926 I have now picked up in the LEVEY book a Richard Southey STIRK born on 10.04.1918 died 27.11.1983 who married Valerie Moira LEVEY. Could this be the same Richard? Any help would be appreciated. Regards to all, Rod g Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6951 - Release Date: 12/26/13 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found some more info on STIRK family: Sidney Southy STIRK married 1st Alice Maud WILSON 1882-1905. Son born Athol STIRK 1902 - ? he married Vivienne POTE. SS STIRK married 2nd Maisie MCCULLUM 1890- ?? . son born Paul STIRK, he married Mavis GOETSCH SS STIRK married 3rd Ethel KEETON 1884-??. Children: Millicent Keeton STIRK, married Lennox B. POH; Peter Keeton STIRK, married Eileen MOODIE William Keetin STIRK, married Joan JACKSON; Richard Keeton STIRK 10/4/1918-27/11/1983, married Valerie LEVEY. Their children, Joy STIRK; Ronald STIRK and Shirley STIRK. Glynis -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 26 December 2013 06:56 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Good Afternoon from a sweltering Cape Town, Can any of the STIRK researchers kindly assist. I have a Richard STIRK in my data base, no dates, and I have his parents as Sydney Southey STIRK born on 04.04.1877 died 01.02.1969 who married Ethel KEETON born in 1874 died 01.08.1926 I have now picked up in the LEVEY book a Richard Southey STIRK born on 10.04.1918 died 27.11.1983 who married Valerie Moira LEVEY. Could this be the same Richard? Any help would be appreciated. Regards to all, Rod g Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rod, In 2006 I picked up some STIRK family line from Viv Kymdell. See below a bit of extract. I have a friend in the UK who has been tracing the STIRK family line and we are related through a PHILLIPS line from Cornwall. I have not heard from her in years and have just dropped her a line. Hope to hear from her. She said that a male family member came to SA and she wanted to trace his line. Regards, Glynis > c9 Sydney Southey *4.4.1877 +c 1968 x Alice Maud WILSON * c1879 > +16.4.1905 xx Cottie Ethel KEETON * c1888 + c1926 xxx Maisie MCCULLUM [1 son in first marr, 4 children second marr, 1 son third marr.] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 26 December 2013 06:56 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Stirk/Levey families Good Afternoon from a sweltering Cape Town, Can any of the STIRK researchers kindly assist. I have a Richard STIRK in my data base, no dates, and I have his parents as Sydney Southey STIRK born on 04.04.1877 died 01.02.1969 who married Ethel KEETON born in 1874 died 01.08.1926 I have now picked up in the LEVEY book a Richard Southey STIRK born on 10.04.1918 died 27.11.1983 who married Valerie Moira LEVEY. Could this be the same Richard? Any help would be appreciated. Regards to all, Rod g Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Afternoon from a sweltering Cape Town, Can any of the STIRK researchers kindly assist. I have a Richard STIRK in my data base, no dates, and I have his parents as Sydney Southey STIRK born on 04.04.1877 died 01.02.1969 who married Ethel KEETON born in 1874 died 01.08.1926 I have now picked up in the LEVEY book a Richard Southey STIRK born on 10.04.1918 died 27.11.1983 who married Valerie Moira LEVEY. Could this be the same Richard? Any help would be appreciated. Regards to all, Rod g Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN

ancestry.com has free access to their newer records until Sunday night. Just go to their (USA?) web site. Keith

Denis You are a STAR, thank you so much. Lucky -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Pretorius Sent: 25 December 2013 08:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Andrew David "Butch" James Hallo Lucky Have a look at www.sharksworld.co.za --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hallo Lucky Have a look at www.sharksworld.co.za Butch James Rugby Player Andrew David "Butch" James is a former South African rugby union player who represented South Africa 40 times and was a member of the team that won the 2007 Rugby World Cup. James's usual position was fly-half, though he also played inside centre. Wikipedia Born: January 8, 1979 (age 34), Johannesburg Height: 1.84 m Spouse: Julia Westbrook (m. 2011) Education: Maritzburg College Children: Jesse Michael James Parents: Michael James, Jenny James Kind regards Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp South Africa Tel - 011-762-8911 Cel - 083-679-8541 Fax - 086-609-8541 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Laquita Belinfante Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 1:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Andrew David "Butch" James Thanks Pat, Neil and Fay. It is always so exciting to find a new branch of the family tree. Any one have any idea who his parents were?? Lucky Andrew David "Butch" James y of the message

Thanks Pat, Neil and Fay. It is always so exciting to find a new branch of the family tree. Any one have any idea who his parents were?? Lucky Andrew David "Butch" James --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

And the same to you Con. All the best for 2014 as well. Take care, Glynis -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 24 December 2013 05:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Seasons Greetings I would like to take this opportunity to wish all list members and their families a very Merry Christmas and a Happy and successful 2014 in all your endeavors. Be safe and I look forward to your contributions to the list in the new year. Regards, Con Mercer Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Butch James comes to mind Wishing everyone a wonderful holiday season with family Regards Fay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Laquita Belinfante Sent: 24 December 2013 06:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Family Time My dear fellow Listers, They say that it is always a Christmas time that folks thoughts turn to family, we on the other hand think FAMILY all the time. LOL I am looking for a Springbok Rugby player with the SURNAME of JAMES. Wishing you all a very MERRY CHRISTMAS, Lucky --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Andrew David "Butch" James On 24 December 2013 18:11, Laquita Belinfante <[email protected]>wrote: > My dear fellow Listers, > > They say that it is always a Christmas time that folks thoughts turn to > family, we on the other hand think FAMILY all the time. LOL > > I am looking for a Springbok Rugby player with the SURNAME of JAMES. > > Wishing you all a very MERRY CHRISTMAS, > > Lucky > > > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My dear fellow Listers, They say that it is always a Christmas time that folks thoughts turn to family, we on the other hand think FAMILY all the time. LOL I am looking for a Springbok Rugby player with the SURNAME of JAMES. Wishing you all a very MERRY CHRISTMAS, Lucky --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

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Hi Listers, I am trying to tidy up some dates in my database, and appear to have this anomally. I have Joseph William Thackwray born 10 Sep 1837, place unknown, married on16 June 1859 in Cradock Weslyan Church, to Mary Elizabeth Hartley, born 19 Jul 1841, place unknown.  The anomally is that I have both of them dying on 30 July 1893, possibly in Kimberley.  Sources I have are from a 'Weakley gedcom' published by the late David Barlow, so I cannot go back on that. Questions. 1. are all these dates correct? 2. If they both died at the same date, what was the cause?  Mining disaster at Kimberley? Hoping someone can help, and wishing you all a Merry Christmas and productive New Year. Paul -- Paul Tanner-Tremaine Hampshire, England email : [email protected] website : www.1820Settlers.com

Hello again Nazeem, The familysearch site seems to have left out a number of batches, for all the years they've uploaded. Unfortunately the file you're interested in is amongst those left out. They might well include these batches in futures updates. Sorry I couldn't be of any more help. best wishes, Leanne On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Nazeem Raffaele Antonio Davids-Solari < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Leane, > > I am working with the Western Cape Death Notices. > > Hope you can help. > > Nazeem > > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 360 > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:00:47 -0700 > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 355 > > (Nazeem Raffaele Antonio Davids-Solari) > > 2. Cape Death Notice Index (Nazeem Raffaele Antonio Davids-Solari) > > 3. Re: Cape Death Notice Index (Leanne Starkey) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 04:05:43 +0000 > > From: Nazeem Raffaele Antonio Davids-Solari <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 355 > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 355 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:00:52 -0700 > > > > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Re: Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? (Keith Meintjes) > > > 2. Re: Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? (Neil Holmes) > > > 3. Salomon Cornelius Vermaak - Pieter Oosthuizen (Bart Simon) > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 03:22:25 -0500 > > > From: "Keith Meintjes" <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > > Veronica, > > > > > > Sometimes I do think I am pretty good! Check out this thread: > > > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE/2007-02/1171476196 > > > > > > and in particular the message: > > > > > > >> > > > For Ray and Richard, > > > These books are currently kept in the Denfield Africana Library, in the > > > Reference section of the Central Library in East London. They have > issues > > > for 1904 to 1948, but there are a few missing. > > > I know the 1906 book is there, as I have read it myself. > > > The telephone number is 043 722 4991 or you may email Claire > Coombe-Davis > > > at: > > > [email protected] > > > She is not able to do a lot of research, but I think she will answer a > few > > > questions. > > > Regards > > > Shirley in Durban > > > << > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > > Received: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 07:37:36 AM EST > > > From: "Ian and Veronica" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? > > > > > > "East London and Frontier Red Book" are directories listing the people > who > > > lived in the towns and villages of that area > > > (including the Transkei) often giving their occupations as well. > > > The modern equivalent would be the Braby's Directories. > > > Veronica > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dennis Pretorius > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:26 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PR Library? > > > > > > Hallo Veronica > > > > > > Forgive my ignorance - but please tell me what the RED BOOKS are ? > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > Dennis Pretorius > > > Krugersdorp South Africa > > > Tel - 011-762-8911 > > > Cel - 083-679-8541 > > > Fax - 086-609-8541 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian and > Veronica > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:34 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PR Library? > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > Can anyone tell me if the Port Elizabeth Library has a collection of > "Red > > > Books"? > > > If so, how complete is it? > > > Are they readily available and how easy is it to access them? > > > he message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 12:14:39 +0200 > > > From: "Neil Holmes" <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > > reply-type=original > > > > > > The East London museum also had a set of these books. I don't know if > they > > > were moved to the library or wether they are another set. > > > > > > Neil. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Keith Meintjes" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:22 AM > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? > > > > > > > > > > Veronica, > > > > > > > > Sometimes I do think I am pretty good! Check out this thread: > > > > > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE/2007-02/1171476196 > > > > > > > > and in particular the message: > > > > > > > >>> > > > > For Ray and Richard, > > > > These books are currently kept in the Denfield Africana Library, in > the > > > > Reference section of the Central Library in East London. They have > issues > > > > for 1904 to 1948, but there are a few missing. > > > > I know the 1906 book is there, as I have read it myself. > > > > The telephone number is 043 722 4991 or you may email Claire > Coombe-Davis > > > > at: > > > > [email protected] > > > > She is not able to do a lot of research, but I think she will answer > a few > > > > questions. > > > > Regards > > > > Shirley in Durban > > > > << > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > > > Received: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 07:37:36 AM EST > > > > From: "Ian and Veronica" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? > > > > > > > > "East London and Frontier Red Book" are directories listing the > people who > > > > lived in the towns and villages of that area > > > > (including the Transkei) often giving their occupations as well. > > > > The modern equivalent would be the Braby's Directories. > > > > Veronica > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dennis Pretorius > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:26 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PR Library? > > > > > > > > Hallo Veronica > > > > > > > > Forgive my ignorance - but please tell me what the RED BOOKS are ? > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > > > Dennis Pretorius > > > > Krugersdorp South Africa > > > > Tel - 011-762-8911 > > > > Cel - 083-679-8541 > > > > Fax - 086-609-8541 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian and > Veronica > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:34 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PR Library? > > > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me if the Port Elizabeth Library has a collection of > "Red > > > > Books"? > > > > If so, how complete is it? > > > > Are they readily available and how easy is it to access them? > > > > he message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 00:46:59 +0200 > > > From: "Bart Simon" <[email protected]> > > > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Salomon Cornelius Vermaak - Pieter Oosthuizen > > > To: "RW RSA" <[email protected]> > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > MGC: > > > > > > Salomon Cornelius Vermaak (A hunter and lived in Tuli) b:Abt. 1843 > probably South Africa, m:10-02-1896 at Dutch Reformed Church, Bulawayo, > Rhodesia to Magdalena Susanna Bezuidenhout. [Magdalena, aged 21, married > Salomon Cornelius Vermaak, a widower, aged 53.]. It seems he also m. Sophia > Aletta Oosthuizen probably the dg of a co-hunter also of Tuli named Pieter > Oosthuizen. Can anyone tell me more of this Pieter Oosthuizen ?. He hunted > with Selous, but I would like to know where he fits into the Oosthuizen > tree ?. > > > > > > B.S. [!!!] > > > ================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to > > > [email protected] > > > > > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > > > > End of SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 355 > > > ******************************************** > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 04:11:45 +0000 > > From: Nazeem Raffaele Antonio Davids-Solari <[email protected]> > > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Cape Death Notice Index > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I do not often write to the list, but I read and follow the news and > updates. I noticed that the Estate file no's 3796-3810 of 1952 are not > listed. I am looking for file 3807 of 1952. Does anyone know where they may > be "hidden"? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Nazeem Davids > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 08:00:34 +0100 > > From: Leanne Starkey <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Cape Death Notice Index > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > <CAK6Lm= > [email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Hi Nazeem, > > > > What province are you working with? > > > > Leanne > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Nazeem Raffaele Antonio Davids-Solari < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > I do not often write to the list, but I read and follow the news and > > > updates. I noticed that the Estate file no's 3796-3810 of 1952 are not > > > listed. I am looking for file 3807 of 1952. Does anyone know where > they may > > > be "hidden"? > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Nazeem Davids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to > > [email protected] > > > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 360 > > ******************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Leane, I am working with the Western Cape Death Notices. Hope you can help. Nazeem > From: [email protected] > Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 360 > To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:00:47 -0700 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 355 > (Nazeem Raffaele Antonio Davids-Solari) > 2. Cape Death Notice Index (Nazeem Raffaele Antonio Davids-Solari) > 3. Re: Cape Death Notice Index (Leanne Starkey) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 04:05:43 +0000 > From: Nazeem Raffaele Antonio Davids-Solari <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 355 > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 355 > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:00:52 -0700 > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? (Keith Meintjes) > > 2. Re: Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? (Neil Holmes) > > 3. Salomon Cornelius Vermaak - Pieter Oosthuizen (Bart Simon) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 03:22:25 -0500 > > From: "Keith Meintjes" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? > > To: <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Veronica, > > > > Sometimes I do think I am pretty good! Check out this thread: > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE/2007-02/1171476196 > > > > and in particular the message: > > > > >> > > For Ray and Richard, > > These books are currently kept in the Denfield Africana Library, in the > > Reference section of the Central Library in East London. They have issues > > for 1904 to 1948, but there are a few missing. > > I know the 1906 book is there, as I have read it myself. > > The telephone number is 043 722 4991 or you may email Claire Coombe-Davis > > at: > > [email protected] > > She is not able to do a lot of research, but I think she will answer a few > > questions. > > Regards > > Shirley in Durban > > << > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Keith > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > Received: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 07:37:36 AM EST > > From: "Ian and Veronica" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? > > > > "East London and Frontier Red Book" are directories listing the people who > > lived in the towns and villages of that area > > (including the Transkei) often giving their occupations as well. > > The modern equivalent would be the Braby's Directories. > > Veronica > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dennis Pretorius > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:26 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PR Library? > > > > Hallo Veronica > > > > Forgive my ignorance - but please tell me what the RED BOOKS are ? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Dennis Pretorius > > Krugersdorp South Africa > > Tel - 011-762-8911 > > Cel - 083-679-8541 > > Fax - 086-609-8541 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian and Veronica > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:34 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PR Library? > > > > Good Morning > > > > Can anyone tell me if the Port Elizabeth Library has a collection of "Red > > Books"? > > If so, how complete is it? > > Are they readily available and how easy is it to access them? > > he message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 12:14:39 +0200 > > From: "Neil Holmes" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? > > To: <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > The East London museum also had a set of these books. I don't know if they > > were moved to the library or wether they are another set. > > > > Neil. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Keith Meintjes" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:22 AM > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? > > > > > > > Veronica, > > > > > > Sometimes I do think I am pretty good! Check out this thread: > > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE/2007-02/1171476196 > > > > > > and in particular the message: > > > > > >>> > > > For Ray and Richard, > > > These books are currently kept in the Denfield Africana Library, in the > > > Reference section of the Central Library in East London. They have issues > > > for 1904 to 1948, but there are a few missing. > > > I know the 1906 book is there, as I have read it myself. > > > The telephone number is 043 722 4991 or you may email Claire Coombe-Davis > > > at: > > > [email protected] > > > She is not able to do a lot of research, but I think she will answer a few > > > questions. > > > Regards > > > Shirley in Durban > > > << > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > > Received: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 07:37:36 AM EST > > > From: "Ian and Veronica" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PE Library? > > > > > > "East London and Frontier Red Book" are directories listing the people who > > > lived in the towns and villages of that area > > > (including the Transkei) often giving their occupations as well. > > > The modern equivalent would be the Braby's Directories. > > > Veronica > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dennis Pretorius > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:26 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PR Library? > > > > > > Hallo Veronica > > > > > > Forgive my ignorance - but please tell me what the RED BOOKS are ? > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > Dennis Pretorius > > > Krugersdorp South Africa > > > Tel - 011-762-8911 > > > Cel - 083-679-8541 > > > Fax - 086-609-8541 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian and Veronica > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:34 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Directories - "Red Books" in PR Library? > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > Can anyone tell me if the Port Elizabeth Library has a collection of "Red > > > Books"? > > > If so, how complete is it? > > > Are they readily available and how easy is it to access them? > > > he message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 00:46:59 +0200 > > From: "Bart Simon" <[email protected]> > > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Salomon Cornelius Vermaak - Pieter Oosthuizen > > To: "RW RSA" <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > MGC: > > > > Salomon Cornelius Vermaak (A hunter and lived in Tuli) b:Abt. 1843 probably South Africa, m:10-02-1896 at Dutch Reformed Church, Bulawayo, Rhodesia to Magdalena Susanna Bezuidenhout. [Magdalena, aged 21, married Salomon Cornelius Vermaak, a widower, aged 53.]. It seems he also m. Sophia Aletta Oosthuizen probably the dg of a co-hunter also of Tuli named Pieter Oosthuizen. Can anyone tell me more of this Pieter Oosthuizen ?. He hunted with Selous, but I would like to know where he fits into the Oosthuizen tree ?. > > > > B.S. [!!!] > > ================= > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to > > [email protected] > > > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 355 > > ******************************************** > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 04:11:45 +0000 > From: Nazeem Raffaele Antonio Davids-Solari <[email protected]> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Cape Death Notice Index > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello everyone, > > I do not often write to the list, but I read and follow the news and updates. I noticed that the Estate file no's 3796-3810 of 1952 are not listed. I am looking for file 3807 of 1952. Does anyone know where they may be "hidden"? > > Thank you. > > Nazeem Davids > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 08:00:34 +0100 > From: Leanne Starkey <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Cape Death Notice Index > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Nazeem, > > What province are you working with? > > Leanne > > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Nazeem Raffaele Antonio Davids-Solari < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I do not often write to the list, but I read and follow the news and > > updates. I noticed that the Estate file no's 3796-3810 of 1952 are not > > listed. I am looking for file 3807 of 1952. Does anyone know where they may > > be "hidden"? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Nazeem Davids > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 360 > ********************************************