Hi Bev, I don't know much about the COADs, but I can tell you more about Florence Ellen COAD, who married Victor John FARRELL on 11-02-1930, if you are interested. This is thanks to the research of Kobus Farrell. They had a son who is/was a neurosurgeon in Johannesburg Regards Linda Farrell On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Heather MacAlister < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Bev > Charles Edwin has his deceased estate papers in the Cape Town Archives > DEPOT KAB > SOURCE MOK > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 1/1/281 > SYSTEM 02 > REFERENCE R6/942 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION COAD, EDWIN ALBERT. DECEASED ESTATE PAPERS. > STARTING 19160000 > ENDING 19160000 > > These papers will contain details of when and where he was born and who his > parents were. It will also give his marital details and children¹s names > and > if there is a will it may give their addresses too. > You need to either contact the archives personally or make the uses of a > private researcher or get a friend or family member to go in and make notes > of the whats in the documents. > There are many documents for the surname of COAD ­ you need to trawl > through > them all > > http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300ds?2014012215205090B47 > 163 > Western Cape Provincial Archives and Records Service > > The Head > Postal address: Private Bag X9025, CAPE TOWN 8000 > Street address: 72 Roeland Street, CAPE TOWN > Tel: (021) 466 8100. Fax: (021) 465 2960 > E-mail: > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> (Reading Room > Enquiries) > > Best wishes > > Heather > > Heather MacAlister > Professional Genealogical Researcher > Email <mailto:[email protected]> > > P. O. Box 455 > Clanwilliam > 8135 > > LinkedIn > Twitter <https://twitter.com/africanaunty> > > > > From: Bev <[email protected]> > Reply-To: <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday 22 January 2014 at 3:12 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] The COAD Twins. > > I am desperate to find out more about my grandmother Mabel COAD's twin > brothers. The family left California in 1895 and arrived in England. My > g/grandfather then came straight to SA, and the family followed much later > in 1898. For whatever reasons, I know very little about them, except what I > have got from NASA and graves!!! I am assuming that most of their children > are no longer alive, but just in case have given surnames only. > > > > Charles Edwin Coad b 15 Apr 1887 Grass Valley California- died 1 Feb 1965 > buried Primrose, Germiston. This family seemed to be based in Germiston. > > Wife Leah FERGUSON [b 10 Oct 1886 Johannesburg] > > Children > > Elizabeth Ellen COAD [b 19 July 1907] married Alfred William EAGER- have > all > the details Primrose grave > > Leah COAD [b 2 Feb 1909] married Andrew Boden BOOTH- have all their details > but they had a son and a daughter - the daughter married ABRAHAMSE > > Hannah Elvira COAD [b 26 Jun 1914] married Frederick Evert Potgieter VAN > TONDER- they had two sons and a daughter and the daughter married > BUCKLAND.Primrose grave > > Dorothy COAD [b??] married ABRAHAMS > > Edna COAD [b??] married Leslie Cochran GLOVER and they had a daughter born > 1943 whose married name is KAYSER and a son born 1947. Glover died in 1964 > and Edna remarried , but divorced in 1973 and she died in 1975. > > Charles Edwin Coad- Luckily I have found out about him and his family. > Primrose grave > > > > Frances John COAD b 15 Apr 1887 Grass Valley California- died 13 May 1926 > This family seemed to be based around Craighall Park but some moved down to > Durban in the later years. Buried Brixton > > Wife Florence Minnie CROWSEN b 5 Nov 1892 died 20 Apr 1971. Her father was > Natter Henry Daniel Theodora CROWSEN and mother's name was Henrietta. > > Children > > Florence Ellen COAD married FARREL > > Lilian Alice Mabel COAD married Andries Daniel VAN WYK > > Frances Walter John COAD b 1916 died 5 Sep 1959 married Gwendoline Elaine > LAIDLEY. They had a son [b abt 1938] and a daughter born 1946 > > Eunice Mary COAD married COOKE > > Edith May COAD married GREEN > > Irene Doris COAD b 8 May 1923 died 20 Jan 1975. Married John Kavanagh > MACFARLANE b 1917 East London- died 1962 Sandton. > > They had daughter born 9 Apr 1947. Irene remarried to Ralph Cecil HEEGER > but > they were divorced in 1971. > > The last child, also a daughter was born in 1925 shortly before her father > died, and she has helped me with the above. > > This is a classic example of "girled out"! > > Any help would be most welcome- as it seems such a shame that they will > never know what I know about an extraordinary family. Many thanks Bev > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

=== http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=920067 === In 1893 the NORHAM CASTLE departed from Southampton for South Africa. Some passengers were: === NORS E GARRITY AGE 31 [Female !!! Possibly Nora???] THOMAS GARRITY AGE 9 WILLIAM GARRITY AGE 7 CLARA GARRITY AGE 5 LOUIS GARRITY AGE 3 === T GARRITY AGE 32 [DUNBAR CASTLE from LONDON 1893] === William Garrity had an older brother Thomas !!!. ===

>From the white pages: A B Coad Brackenhurst 310a Vause Rd Musgrave , ethekwini , Kwazulu-natal 0312017859 C Coad Ons Tuiste 155 Suid St Pietersburg , Polokwane , Limpopo 0152954192 E G Coad 44 Koosnelst Aqua Park , Tzaneen , Limpopo 0153076990 Kim Coad 3 Maculata St Arborpark , Tzaneen , Limpopo 0153071484 S Coad 18 Kundalila Rd Waterfall , Kwazulu-natal 0317662797 Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 01:50:02 AM EST From: Heather MacAlister <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] The COAD Twins. Hi Bev Thanks for that ­ check out Facebook as I have found many missing relatives there - or the white and yellow pages of South Africa http://phonebook.yellowpages.co.za Regards Heather From: Bev <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Thursday 23 January 2014 at 8:38 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] The COAD Twins. Hi Heather, This Edwin Albert does not belong to "our Coads" but I did get the docs and passed them onto the WW Coad Project as I did with all the others from the NASA. What I am hoping the listing does is opens up the two families. The two family members who I have managed to contact, did help but just with names. There must be some grandchildren of the twins that are still alive as they are around my age!!!!!!! Thank you anyway! Bev -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Heather MacAlister Sent: 22 January 2014 03:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] The COAD Twins. Hi Bev Charles Edwin has his deceased estate papers in the Cape Town Archives DEPOT KAB SOURCE MOK TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 1/1/281 SYSTEM 02 REFERENCE R6/942 PART 1 DESCRIPTION COAD, EDWIN ALBERT. DECEASED ESTATE PAPERS. STARTING 19160000 ENDING 19160000 These papers will contain details of when and where he was born and who his parents were. It will also give his marital details and children¹s names and if there is a will it may give their addresses too. You need to either contact the archives personally or make the uses of a private researcher or get a friend or family member to go in and make notes of the whats in the documents. There are many documents for the surname of COAD ­ you need to trawl through them all http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300ds?2014012215205090B47 163 Western Cape Provincial Archives and Records Service The Head Postal address: Private Bag X9025, CAPE TOWN 8000 Street address: 72 Roeland Street, CAPE TOWN Tel: (021) 466 8100. Fax: (021) 465 2960 E-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> (Reading Room Enquiries) Best wishes Heather Heather MacAlister Professional Genealogical Researcher Email <mailto:[email protected]> P. O. Box 455 Clanwilliam 8135 LinkedIn Twitter <https://twitter.com/africanaunty> From: Bev <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday 22 January 2014 at 3:12 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] The COAD Twins. I am desperate to find out more about my grandmother Mabel COAD's twin brothers. The family left California in 1895 and arrived in England. My g/grandfather then came straight to SA, and the family followed much later in 1898. For whatever reasons, I know very little about them, except what I have got from NASA and graves!!! I am assuming that most of their children are no longer alive, but just in case have given surnames only. Charles Edwin Coad b 15 Apr 1887 Grass Valley California- died 1 Feb 1965 buried Primrose, Germiston. This family seemed to be based in Germiston. Wife Leah FERGUSON [b 10 Oct 1886 Johannesburg] Children Elizabeth Ellen COAD [b 19 July 1907] married Alfred William EAGER- have all the details Primrose grave Leah COAD [b 2 Feb 1909] married Andrew Boden BOOTH- have all their details but they had a son and a daughter - the daughter married ABRAHAMSE Hannah Elvira COAD [b 26 Jun 1914] married Frederick Evert Potgieter VAN TONDER- they had two sons and a daughter and the daughter married BUCKLAND.Primrose grave Dorothy COAD [b??] married ABRAHAMS Edna COAD [b??] married Leslie Cochran GLOVER and they had a daughter born 1943 whose married name is KAYSER and a son born 1947. Glover died in 1964 and Edna remarried , but divorced in 1973 and she died in 1975. Charles Edwin Coad- Luckily I have found out about him and his family. Primrose grave Frances John COAD b 15 Apr 1887 Grass Valley California- died 13 May 1926 This family seemed to be based around Craighall Park but some moved down to Durban in the later years. Buried Brixton Wife Florence Minnie CROWSEN b 5 Nov 1892 died 20 Apr 1971. Her father was Natter Henry Daniel Theodora CROWSEN and mother's name was Henrietta. Children Florence Ellen COAD married FARREL Lilian Alice Mabel COAD married Andries Daniel VAN WYK Frances Walter John COAD b 1916 died 5 Sep 1959 married Gwendoline Elaine LAIDLEY. They had a son [b abt 1938] and a daughter born 1946 Eunice Mary COAD married COOKE Edith May COAD married GREEN Irene Doris COAD b 8 May 1923 died 20 Jan 1975. Married John Kavanagh MACFARLANE b 1917 East London- died 1962 Sandton. They had daughter born 9 Apr 1947. Irene remarried to Ralph Cecil HEEGER but they were divorced in 1971. The last child, also a daughter was born in 1925 shortly before her father died, and she has helped me with the above. This is a classic example of "girled out"! Any help would be most welcome- as it seems such a shame that they will never know what I know about an extraordinary family. 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[She became a widow at a young age and her parents were living with her that is why I an curious if there is a way to see who was living at a given address.]: The house at No. 3 4th Street is a semi-detached, which could have been more suitable, you would live on the one side, and the parents on the other ?. If you go to Google Maps and paste this into the field box and press enter: -26.204876,28.095265 go into "Street View", it is the house with the green towel over the front wall.

Hello Heather: I could probably tell you exactly where the grave is if you can give me the FULL death date. [1914: No. 3, Fourth Street, Malvern Johannesburg]: There is no [FOURTH STREET] in Malvern. There is a [4th Street]. I took a photo of this house for you and will send it off list. This area has changed a lot. The people there did not speak much English, but they did say it was No. 3. I think you will find the photo interesting. This should be the house in question.... [Lilian Sampson WILLIAMS (married name: GARRITY), Thomas GARRITY]: In the title of your post, who is Thomas Garrity ?. I suspect you suspect he is the father of William Arthur Garrity ?. === Go here and type in 'garrity': http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300gi?20140122212908CA9C0E63%26DB%3DRSAE === CHARLES WILLIAM THOMAS GARRITY d:1967, SURVIVING SPOUSE ELAINE GARRITY. === DEPOT TAB SOURCE RAD TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 114 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 2835 PART 1 DESCRIPTION CLAIM FOR COMPENSATION (WITWATERSRAND AREA) THOMAS GARRITY. STARTING 1903 ENDING 1903 === DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 1718/41 PART 1 DESCRIPTION GARRITY, FANNY JANE. STARTING 1941 ENDING 1941 REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE (1) JOHN THOMAS (2) THOMAS GARRITY. === DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 65289 PART 1 DESCRIPTION GARRITY, THOMAS. STARTING 1928 ENDING 1928 REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE FANNY JANE GARRITY. === DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 5397/50 PART 1 DESCRIPTION GARRITY, LILIA SAMPSON. STARTING 1950 ENDING 1950 REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE WILLIAM GARRITY. *** I note you have him as WILLIAM ARTHUR GARRITY ???. Is that correct ???. === DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 15789 PART 1 DESCRIPTION GARRITY, WILLIAM ARTHUR. STARTING 1910 ENDING 1910 REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE ELIZABETH LILY GARRITY (BORN NEILON). [1928: SURVIVING SPOUSE ANDREW STEWART ROSS PREDECEASED SPOUSE WILLIAM GARRITY] *** I take it this GARRITY-NEILON-ROSS is the incorrect family !!!. ???. === - S.K.M. - [!!!] ================================ William Arthur GARRITY is believed to have died in 1916. ================================

Hi Steve, What an awesome website, thank you - I definitely have this one now saved in my favorites! Take care, Heather Sent from my Cream Puff On Jan 21, 2014, at 7:11 PM, "Steve Hayes" <[email protected]> wrote: > On 21 Jan 2014 at 13:11, Heather Dickson wrote: > >> I am looking for any info on Lilian Sampson WILLIAMS, she was born in Redruth >> Cornwall, England in June 1891. Her parents - names unknown, only their >> nicknames Father & Ninny - moved to South Africa when she was a young girl. >> She married William Arthur GARRIY, born 1886 in Chorlton, Lancashire, England >> - he worked in the gold mines and they lived in Malvern East, Johannesburg. >> >> Lilian Sampson GARRITY (nee WILLIAMS) died in 1950 and is buried in Primrose >> Cemetery. I am coming to South Africa and will be in Johannesburg for just a >> couple of days and was hoping someone is able to let me know where the >> location of the actual grave could be. It is believed her son Charles William >> Thomas GARRITY Sep 2915 - 1967 is buried in the same grave as his mother. >> >> The address Lilian and William GARRITY was living at in 1914 was: 3 Fourth >> Street, Malvern Johannesburg, is there any way of finding out who was living >> at the address during that time frame? William Arthur GARRITY is believed to >> have died in 1916 but no other information can be found for him. > > There is this, in the archives uin Pretoria: > > DEPOT TAB > SOURCE MHG > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 0 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 15789 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION GARRITY, WILLIAM ARTHUR. > STARTING 19100000 > ENDING 19100000 > REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE ELIZABETH LILY GARRITY (BORN NEILON). > > DEPOT TAB > SOURCE MHG > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 0 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 5397/50 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION GARRITY, LILIA SAMPSON. > STARTING 19500000 > ENDING 19500000 > REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE WILLIAM GARRITY. > > See: > > http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl > > > -- > Keep well, > Steve Hayes > Blog: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com > Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm > E-mail: [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Andrew, Yes, we are spoilt - I have to say the census have been so helpful and it is always interesting in having an address! It really is sad to think of all the census being destroyed. Take care, Heather Sent from my Cream Puff On Jan 21, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Andrew Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, Heather, > > Researchers in the UK and USA are spoiled by having access to old > census returns (every 10 years from 1841 in the UK, and thenceforth > once 100 years have passed since the census in question, similar > rules in the USA, though different dates) but South Africa has never > allowed this -- in fact, once the census returns had been checked and > analysed for statistical content, they were destroyed soon > afterwards. (I believe one package of returns in King Williams Town > escaped this fate and was found many years later, but that is the > only one. In the UK the opposite is true: a few packages of returns > were lost at sea en route from Fife to Edinburgh in 1841.) > > The same goes for Australia, but the situation will be better for > future generations, with notable exceptions. The census of a few > years ago contained an optional vote for census details to be > retained, which enough people ticked for them to proceed at the next > census (5 years later) to make them available PROVIDED the subject > had consented. It was at this point that they switched to an on-line > census-taking procedure: a package of census forms was delivered to > each house, and these gave the option of entering them on-line, and, > moreover, you could save your reply if you were not sure about the > answers, and log on later (with a password given at your first log- > in) and finish the job. If this was done, the census-taker would > simply not call again to pick up the completed papers, which you > could then retain as a record of what you had said; if not, the > caller would sit down with you and help you complete them. The on- > line version included permission to disclose after a certain period, > I think 100 years. Given that many questions have to be answered, or > not, according to what you had said in previous questions, this saved > an immense amount of time, because the on-line system would take you > direct to the next question that did need answering -- and if you had > made a mistake you could always go back and change any previous > answers, and the inter-active system could cope with this also. > > This is an excellent system. Of course all the genies said yes, and > I for one have been trying to get the Australian Taxation Office to > adopt a similar system for tax returns, since their on-line returns > require a special app -- which only works on certain versions of > Windows and is thus useless for anyone using older versions, Vista, > or any other OS, especially Macintosh, Android, open source OS, etc. > They cite privacy as the reason for their refusal, despite the > password aspect of it, and so do Social Services applying the assets > and income tests for pensions. It's not clear to me why these are > more private than intimate details of who slept where in the census! > > On 22 Jan 2014, at 12:24 PM, Heather Dickson wrote (snip): > >> that is why I an curious if there is a way to see who was living >> at a given address. > > Andrew Rodger > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bart, Unfortunately I do not have the full death date. Thank you so much for the photos, very interesting. Also what a great website, now if William GARRITY is not listed does that mean he died without a will? I know he died young and I would think unexpectedly, in fact he died about three months before his child was born. Thank you for spotting my error in the title! Thomas GARRITY is actually William GARRITY'S father (married to Elizabeth ANDERTON - both buried somewhere in Pretoria). William also had an older brother Thomas GARRITY who was married to Fanny Jane (they are actually witnesses on my grandmother's birth certificate). Their is also a sister Clara GARRITY and another brother Louis GARRITY. Unfortunately, I do not have any information on the siblings. According to bmd.org.uk there is a William GARRITY born March 1885, then a death of William GARRITY, age 1 for March 1885, then in December 1885 another William Arthur GARRITY both born in Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire England! I do not have an actual birth date for William so if the estate file has him listed as William GARRITY, then that must be correct. That is very interesting that there is a William Arthur GARRITY, but his wife's name I am not familiar with. Charles William Thomas GARRITY is one of Lilian Sampson WILLIAMS and William GARRITY's children and he married Elaine BLAIR? Thank you, take care, Heather Sent from my Cream Puff On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:13 PM, "Bart Simon" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Heather: > > I could probably tell you exactly where the grave is if you can give me the > FULL death date. > > [1914: No. 3, Fourth Street, Malvern Johannesburg]: There is no [FOURTH > STREET] in Malvern. There is a [4th Street]. I took a photo of this house > for you and will send it off list. This area has changed a lot. The people > there did not speak much English, but they did say it was No. 3. I think you > will find the photo interesting. This should be the house in question.... > > [Lilian Sampson WILLIAMS (married name: GARRITY), Thomas GARRITY]: In the > title of your post, who is Thomas Garrity ?. I suspect you suspect he is the > father of William Arthur Garrity ?. > === > Go here and type in 'garrity': > http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300gi?20140122212908CA9C0E63%26DB%3DRSAE > === > CHARLES WILLIAM THOMAS GARRITY d:1967, SURVIVING SPOUSE ELAINE GARRITY. > === > DEPOT TAB > SOURCE RAD > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 114 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 2835 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION CLAIM FOR COMPENSATION (WITWATERSRAND AREA) THOMAS GARRITY. > STARTING 1903 > ENDING 1903 > === > DEPOT TAB > SOURCE MHG > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 0 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 1718/41 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION GARRITY, FANNY JANE. > STARTING 1941 > ENDING 1941 > REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE (1) JOHN THOMAS (2) THOMAS GARRITY. > === > DEPOT TAB > SOURCE MHG > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 0 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 65289 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION GARRITY, THOMAS. > STARTING 1928 > ENDING 1928 > REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE FANNY JANE GARRITY. > === > DEPOT TAB > SOURCE MHG > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 0 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 5397/50 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION GARRITY, LILIA SAMPSON. > STARTING 1950 > ENDING 1950 > REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE WILLIAM GARRITY. > > *** I note you have him as WILLIAM ARTHUR GARRITY ???. Is that correct ???. > === > DEPOT TAB > SOURCE MHG > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 0 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 15789 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION GARRITY, WILLIAM ARTHUR. > STARTING 1910 > ENDING 1910 > REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE ELIZABETH LILY GARRITY (BORN NEILON). > > [1928: SURVIVING SPOUSE ANDREW STEWART ROSS PREDECEASED SPOUSE WILLIAM > GARRITY] > > *** I take it this GARRITY-NEILON-ROSS is the incorrect family !!!. ???. > === > > - S.K.M. - [!!!] > ================================ > William Arthur GARRITY is believed to have died in 1916. > ================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Heather, Researchers in the UK and USA are spoiled by having access to old census returns (every 10 years from 1841 in the UK, and thenceforth once 100 years have passed since the census in question, similar rules in the USA, though different dates) but South Africa has never allowed this -- in fact, once the census returns had been checked and analysed for statistical content, they were destroyed soon afterwards. (I believe one package of returns in King Williams Town escaped this fate and was found many years later, but that is the only one. In the UK the opposite is true: a few packages of returns were lost at sea en route from Fife to Edinburgh in 1841.) The same goes for Australia, but the situation will be better for future generations, with notable exceptions. The census of a few years ago contained an optional vote for census details to be retained, which enough people ticked for them to proceed at the next census (5 years later) to make them available PROVIDED the subject had consented. It was at this point that they switched to an on-line census-taking procedure: a package of census forms was delivered to each house, and these gave the option of entering them on-line, and, moreover, you could save your reply if you were not sure about the answers, and log on later (with a password given at your first log- in) and finish the job. If this was done, the census-taker would simply not call again to pick up the completed papers, which you could then retain as a record of what you had said; if not, the caller would sit down with you and help you complete them. The on- line version included permission to disclose after a certain period, I think 100 years. Given that many questions have to be answered, or not, according to what you had said in previous questions, this saved an immense amount of time, because the on-line system would take you direct to the next question that did need answering -- and if you had made a mistake you could always go back and change any previous answers, and the inter-active system could cope with this also. This is an excellent system. Of course all the genies said yes, and I for one have been trying to get the Australian Taxation Office to adopt a similar system for tax returns, since their on-line returns require a special app -- which only works on certain versions of Windows and is thus useless for anyone using older versions, Vista, or any other OS, especially Macintosh, Android, open source OS, etc. They cite privacy as the reason for their refusal, despite the password aspect of it, and so do Social Services applying the assets and income tests for pensions. It's not clear to me why these are more private than intimate details of who slept where in the census! On 22 Jan 2014, at 12:24 PM, Heather Dickson wrote (snip): > that is why I an curious if there is a way to see who was living > at a given address. Andrew Rodger [email protected]

Hi Bev Charles Edwin has his deceased estate papers in the Cape Town Archives DEPOT KAB SOURCE MOK TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 1/1/281 SYSTEM 02 REFERENCE R6/942 PART 1 DESCRIPTION COAD, EDWIN ALBERT. DECEASED ESTATE PAPERS. STARTING 19160000 ENDING 19160000 These papers will contain details of when and where he was born and who his parents were. It will also give his marital details and children¹s names and if there is a will it may give their addresses too. You need to either contact the archives personally or make the uses of a private researcher or get a friend or family member to go in and make notes of the whats in the documents. There are many documents for the surname of COAD ­ you need to trawl through them all http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300ds?2014012215205090B47 163 Western Cape Provincial Archives and Records Service The Head Postal address: Private Bag X9025, CAPE TOWN 8000 Street address: 72 Roeland Street, CAPE TOWN Tel: (021) 466 8100. Fax: (021) 465 2960 E-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> (Reading Room Enquiries) Best wishes Heather Heather MacAlister Professional Genealogical Researcher Email <mailto:[email protected]> P. O. Box 455 Clanwilliam 8135 LinkedIn Twitter <https://twitter.com/africanaunty> From: Bev <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday 22 January 2014 at 3:12 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] The COAD Twins. I am desperate to find out more about my grandmother Mabel COAD's twin brothers. The family left California in 1895 and arrived in England. My g/grandfather then came straight to SA, and the family followed much later in 1898. For whatever reasons, I know very little about them, except what I have got from NASA and graves!!! I am assuming that most of their children are no longer alive, but just in case have given surnames only. Charles Edwin Coad b 15 Apr 1887 Grass Valley California- died 1 Feb 1965 buried Primrose, Germiston. This family seemed to be based in Germiston. Wife Leah FERGUSON [b 10 Oct 1886 Johannesburg] Children Elizabeth Ellen COAD [b 19 July 1907] married Alfred William EAGER- have all the details Primrose grave Leah COAD [b 2 Feb 1909] married Andrew Boden BOOTH- have all their details but they had a son and a daughter - the daughter married ABRAHAMSE Hannah Elvira COAD [b 26 Jun 1914] married Frederick Evert Potgieter VAN TONDER- they had two sons and a daughter and the daughter married BUCKLAND.Primrose grave Dorothy COAD [b??] married ABRAHAMS Edna COAD [b??] married Leslie Cochran GLOVER and they had a daughter born 1943 whose married name is KAYSER and a son born 1947. Glover died in 1964 and Edna remarried , but divorced in 1973 and she died in 1975. Charles Edwin Coad- Luckily I have found out about him and his family. Primrose grave Frances John COAD b 15 Apr 1887 Grass Valley California- died 13 May 1926 This family seemed to be based around Craighall Park but some moved down to Durban in the later years. Buried Brixton Wife Florence Minnie CROWSEN b 5 Nov 1892 died 20 Apr 1971. Her father was Natter Henry Daniel Theodora CROWSEN and mother's name was Henrietta. Children Florence Ellen COAD married FARREL Lilian Alice Mabel COAD married Andries Daniel VAN WYK Frances Walter John COAD b 1916 died 5 Sep 1959 married Gwendoline Elaine LAIDLEY. They had a son [b abt 1938] and a daughter born 1946 Eunice Mary COAD married COOKE Edith May COAD married GREEN Irene Doris COAD b 8 May 1923 died 20 Jan 1975. Married John Kavanagh MACFARLANE b 1917 East London- died 1962 Sandton. They had daughter born 9 Apr 1947. Irene remarried to Ralph Cecil HEEGER but they were divorced in 1971. The last child, also a daughter was born in 1925 shortly before her father died, and she has helped me with the above. This is a classic example of "girled out"! Any help would be most welcome- as it seems such a shame that they will never know what I know about an extraordinary family. Many thanks Bev ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am desperate to find out more about my grandmother Mabel COAD's twin brothers. The family left California in 1895 and arrived in England. My g/grandfather then came straight to SA, and the family followed much later in 1898. For whatever reasons, I know very little about them, except what I have got from NASA and graves!!! I am assuming that most of their children are no longer alive, but just in case have given surnames only. Charles Edwin Coad b 15 Apr 1887 Grass Valley California- died 1 Feb 1965 buried Primrose, Germiston. This family seemed to be based in Germiston. Wife Leah FERGUSON [b 10 Oct 1886 Johannesburg] Children Elizabeth Ellen COAD [b 19 July 1907] married Alfred William EAGER- have all the details Primrose grave Leah COAD [b 2 Feb 1909] married Andrew Boden BOOTH- have all their details but they had a son and a daughter - the daughter married ABRAHAMSE Hannah Elvira COAD [b 26 Jun 1914] married Frederick Evert Potgieter VAN TONDER- they had two sons and a daughter and the daughter married BUCKLAND.Primrose grave Dorothy COAD [b??] married ABRAHAMS Edna COAD [b??] married Leslie Cochran GLOVER and they had a daughter born 1943 whose married name is KAYSER and a son born 1947. Glover died in 1964 and Edna remarried , but divorced in 1973 and she died in 1975. Charles Edwin Coad- Luckily I have found out about him and his family. Primrose grave Frances John COAD b 15 Apr 1887 Grass Valley California- died 13 May 1926 This family seemed to be based around Craighall Park but some moved down to Durban in the later years. Buried Brixton Wife Florence Minnie CROWSEN b 5 Nov 1892 died 20 Apr 1971. Her father was Natter Henry Daniel Theodora CROWSEN and mother's name was Henrietta. Children Florence Ellen COAD married FARREL Lilian Alice Mabel COAD married Andries Daniel VAN WYK Frances Walter John COAD b 1916 died 5 Sep 1959 married Gwendoline Elaine LAIDLEY. They had a son [b abt 1938] and a daughter born 1946 Eunice Mary COAD married COOKE Edith May COAD married GREEN Irene Doris COAD b 8 May 1923 died 20 Jan 1975. Married John Kavanagh MACFARLANE b 1917 East London- died 1962 Sandton. They had daughter born 9 Apr 1947. Irene remarried to Ralph Cecil HEEGER but they were divorced in 1971. The last child, also a daughter was born in 1925 shortly before her father died, and she has helped me with the above. This is a classic example of "girled out"! Any help would be most welcome- as it seems such a shame that they will never know what I know about an extraordinary family. Many thanks Bev

Hi Heather Her Death Notice is in the Pretoria archives - shown as Lilia Sampson. This should give her parents' names if you are lucky.. DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 5397/50 PART 1 DESCRIPTION GARRITY, LILIA SAMPSON. STARTING 19500000 ENDING 19500000 REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE WILLIAM GARRITY. There is also this file which might be connected - same name?? DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 15789 PART 1 DESCRIPTION GARRITY, WILLIAM ARTHUR. STARTING 19100000 ENDING 19100000 REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE ELIZABETH LILY GARRITY (BORN NEILON). DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 66873 PART 1 DESCRIPTION ROSS, ELIZABETH. (BORN NEILON). STARTING 19280000 ENDING 19280000 REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE ANDREW STEWART ROSS PREDECEASED SPOUSE WILLIAM GARRITY. DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 8404/67 PART 1 DESCRIPTION GARRITY, CHARLES WILLIAM THOMAS. STARTING 19670000 ENDING 19670000 REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE ELAINE GARRITY You can use the services of http://www.eggsa.org to get photographs/copies of these documents. Take care Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Heather Dickson Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:11 AM To: [email protected] ; Heather Dickson Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lilian Sampson WILLIAMS (married name: GARRITY),Thomas GARRITY Hi there, I am looking for any info on Lilian Sampson WILLIAMS, she was born in Redruth Cornwall, England in June 1891. Her parents - names unknown, only their nicknames Father & Ninny - moved to South Africa when she was a young girl. She married William Arthur GARRIY, born 1886 in Chorlton, Lancashire, England - he worked in the gold mines and they lived in Malvern East, Johannesburg. Lilian Sampson GARRITY (nee WILLIAMS) died in 1950 and is buried in Primrose Cemetery. I am coming to South Africa and will be in Johannesburg for just a couple of days and was hoping someone is able to let me know where the location of the actual grave could be. It is believed her son Charles William Thomas GARRITY Sep 2915 - 1967 is buried in the same grave as his mother. The address Lilian and William GARRITY was living at in 1914 was: 3 Fourth Street, Malvern Johannesburg, is there any way of finding out who was living at the address during that time frame? William Arthur GARRITY is believed to have died in 1916 but no other information can be found for him.

On 21 Jan 2014 at 13:11, Heather Dickson wrote: > I am looking for any info on Lilian Sampson WILLIAMS, she was born in Redruth > Cornwall, England in June 1891. Her parents - names unknown, only their > nicknames Father & Ninny - moved to South Africa when she was a young girl. > She married William Arthur GARRIY, born 1886 in Chorlton, Lancashire, England > - he worked in the gold mines and they lived in Malvern East, Johannesburg. > > Lilian Sampson GARRITY (nee WILLIAMS) died in 1950 and is buried in Primrose > Cemetery. I am coming to South Africa and will be in Johannesburg for just a > couple of days and was hoping someone is able to let me know where the > location of the actual grave could be. It is believed her son Charles William > Thomas GARRITY Sep 2915 - 1967 is buried in the same grave as his mother. > > The address Lilian and William GARRITY was living at in 1914 was: 3 Fourth > Street, Malvern Johannesburg, is there any way of finding out who was living > at the address during that time frame? William Arthur GARRITY is believed to > have died in 1916 but no other information can be found for him. There is this, in the archives uin Pretoria: DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 15789 PART 1 DESCRIPTION GARRITY, WILLIAM ARTHUR. STARTING 19100000 ENDING 19100000 REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE ELIZABETH LILY GARRITY (BORN NEILON). DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 5397/50 PART 1 DESCRIPTION GARRITY, LILIA SAMPSON. STARTING 19500000 ENDING 19500000 REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE WILLIAM GARRITY. See: http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Blog: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm E-mail: [email protected]

Thanks so much Lynn!! The first and last record is what I am looking for. I would be ecstatic if I was able to find who her parents were as well as her siblings. Interesting that they have her first name as Lilia, I wonder if that is how her name is recorded at the cemetery. She became a widow at a young age and her parents were living with her that is why I an curious if there is a way to see who was living at a given address. Take care, Heather Sent from my Cream Puff On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:27 PM, "Lynn MacLeod" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Heather > Her Death Notice is in the Pretoria archives - shown as Lilia Sampson. This > should give her parents' names if you are lucky.. > DEPOT TAB > SOURCE MHG > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 0 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 5397/50 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION GARRITY, LILIA SAMPSON. > STARTING 19500000 > ENDING 19500000 > REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE WILLIAM GARRITY. > > There is also this file which might be connected - same name?? > DEPOT TAB > SOURCE MHG > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 0 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 15789 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION GARRITY, WILLIAM ARTHUR. > STARTING 19100000 > ENDING 19100000 > REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE ELIZABETH LILY GARRITY (BORN NEILON). > > DEPOT TAB > SOURCE MHG > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 0 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 66873 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION ROSS, ELIZABETH. (BORN NEILON). > STARTING 19280000 > ENDING 19280000 > REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE ANDREW STEWART ROSS PREDECEASED SPOUSE WILLIAM > GARRITY. > > DEPOT TAB > SOURCE MHG > TYPE LEER > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 8404/67 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION GARRITY, CHARLES WILLIAM THOMAS. > STARTING 19670000 > ENDING 19670000 > REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE ELAINE GARRITY > > You can use the services of http://www.eggsa.org to get > photographs/copies of these documents. > Take care > Lynn > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Heather Dickson > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:11 AM > To: [email protected] ; Heather Dickson > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lilian Sampson WILLIAMS (married name: > GARRITY),Thomas GARRITY > > Hi there, > > I am looking for any info on Lilian Sampson WILLIAMS, she was born in > Redruth Cornwall, England in June 1891. Her parents - names unknown, only > their nicknames Father & Ninny - moved to South Africa when she was a young > girl. She married William Arthur GARRIY, born 1886 in Chorlton, Lancashire, > England - he worked in the gold mines and they lived in Malvern East, > Johannesburg. > > Lilian Sampson GARRITY (nee WILLIAMS) died in 1950 and is buried in Primrose > Cemetery. I am coming to South Africa and will be in Johannesburg for just a > couple of days and was hoping someone is able to let me know where the > location of the actual grave could be. It is believed her son Charles > William Thomas GARRITY Sep 2915 - 1967 is buried in the same grave as his > mother. > > The address Lilian and William GARRITY was living at in 1914 was: 3 Fourth > Street, Malvern Johannesburg, is there any way of finding out who was living > at the address during that time frame? William Arthur GARRITY is believed to > have died in 1916 but no other information can be found for him. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there, I am looking for any info on Lilian Sampson WILLIAMS, she was born in Redruth Cornwall, England in June 1891. Her parents - names unknown, only their nicknames Father & Ninny - moved to South Africa when she was a young girl. She married William Arthur GARRIY, born 1886 in Chorlton, Lancashire, England - he worked in the gold mines and they lived in Malvern East, Johannesburg. Lilian Sampson GARRITY (nee WILLIAMS) died in 1950 and is buried in Primrose Cemetery. I am coming to South Africa and will be in Johannesburg for just a couple of days and was hoping someone is able to let me know where the location of the actual grave could be. It is believed her son Charles William Thomas GARRITY Sep 2915 - 1967 is buried in the same grave as his mother. The address Lilian and William GARRITY was living at in 1914 was: 3 Fourth Street, Malvern Johannesburg, is there any way of finding out who was living at the address during that time frame? William Arthur GARRITY is believed to have died in 1916 but no other information can be found for him. Thank you, Heather Sent from my Cream Puff

Good Morning The ship the family sailed on was the: GLOUCESTER CASTLE Date of departure: 23 October 1920 Port of departure: London Passenger destination port: Cape, South Africa Passenger destination: Cape, South Africa Passengers: Name: Mr G PERKINS; Date of Birth: 1870 (calculated from age) Occupation: Blacksmith Name: Mrs PERKINS; Date of Birth: 1968 (calculated from age) Name: Miss G.M. PERKINS; Date of Birth: 1904 (calculated from age) Name: Mast W.G. PERKINS; Date of Birth: 1907 (calculated from age) Name: Mast E.A. PERKINS; Date of Birth: 1911 (calculated from age) Edward A Perkins was born in the Dec qtr 1911 Alton, Hampshire 2c 335 Mother's Maiden Surname Oxenham Trust this is what you are looking for Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 1:48 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] PERKINS/OXENHAM > My name is Richard I live on the west coast of Canada. > > > I am trying to trace my maternal great grandparents - George PERKINS and > Martha OXENHAM in South Africa from post 1920,s Sussex, England. > > George and Martha travelled to Johannasburg SA aprox 1920, and > stayed in SA for the rest of their life. My parents and grand parents > moved to SA 1947, I was born there in Johannesburg, left when I was two. > > George was a blacksmith/farrier in Sussex, I have no Idea what he > did in SA, or Martha for that matter. In the family it is rumered that > he took other family with him, I do know that he left his married > daughter Louisa, and youngest son John in England. > > I have no idea were to start in South Africa so any and all help most > appreciated. > > Richard of Abbotsford. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear All, To me it just amazing how several people got into the search and within a few days the file, ship name, passengers etc. were available. This type of co-operation and involvement and being together of the genealogists amazes me. We all are a bunch of smart people !! Well done to all. Eddie OTTE RUSTENBURG 014 533 1318 en 072 900 4461 en 081 042 0299 OTTE, MOLL, LOMBARD, VAN NIEKERK -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: 20 January 2014 05:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] PERKINS/OXENHAM Good Morning The ship the family sailed on was the: GLOUCESTER CASTLE Date of departure: 23 October 1920 Port of departure: London Passenger destination port: Cape, South Africa Passenger destination: Cape, South Africa Passengers: Name: Mr G PERKINS; Date of Birth: 1870 (calculated from age) Occupation: Blacksmith Name: Mrs PERKINS; Date of Birth: 1968 (calculated from age) Name: Miss G.M. PERKINS; Date of Birth: 1904 (calculated from age) Name: Mast W.G. PERKINS; Date of Birth: 1907 (calculated from age) Name: Mast E.A. PERKINS; Date of Birth: 1911 (calculated from age) Edward A Perkins was born in the Dec qtr 1911 Alton, Hampshire 2c 335 Mother's Maiden Surname Oxenham Trust this is what you are looking for Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 1:48 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] PERKINS/OXENHAM > My name is Richard I live on the west coast of Canada. > > > I am trying to trace my maternal great grandparents - George PERKINS and > Martha OXENHAM in South Africa from post 1920,s Sussex, England. > > George and Martha travelled to Johannasburg SA aprox 1920, and > stayed in SA for the rest of their life. My parents and grand parents > moved to SA 1947, I was born there in Johannesburg, left when I was two. > > George was a blacksmith/farrier in Sussex, I have no Idea what he > did in SA, or Martha for that matter. In the family it is rumered that > he took other family with him, I do know that he left his married > daughter Louisa, and youngest son John in England. > > I have no idea were to start in South Africa so any and all help most > appreciated. > > Richard of Abbotsford. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Patty No it will be fine ­ sorry did not read 1901 properly ­ there should be no problem as long as you fill in the forms and are prepared to wait. Best wishes Heather From: Patty Myers <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Monday 20 January 2014 at 9:36 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] James Frost Hi Heather Thanks for your reply. I don't have any ID unfortunately so that basically puts the cap on that one. Regards Patty -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Heather MacAlister Sent: 20 January 2014 09:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] James Frost Hi Patty The only place is the Department of Home Affairs which you need to go in physically to apply. If you have a modern ID number then it will go much faster. Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Professional Genealogical Researcher Email <mailto:[email protected]> P. O. Box 455 Clanwilliam 8135 LinkedIn Twitter <https://twitter.com/africanaunty> From: Patty Myers <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Sunday 19 January 2014 at 10:14 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] James Frost Hi there Please could someone tell me how I can get a copy of a Death Certificate for a death that occurred in Standerton, Tvl in 1901. I have found a record for James Frost who died there on the 26/11/1901 in the Standerton Concentration Camp. The only ones available online at Family Search are for the Cape Province. Thank you Patty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Heather Thanks for your reply. I don't have any ID unfortunately so that basically puts the cap on that one. Regards Patty -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Heather MacAlister Sent: 20 January 2014 09:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] James Frost Hi Patty The only place is the Department of Home Affairs which you need to go in physically to apply. If you have a modern ID number then it will go much faster. Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Professional Genealogical Researcher Email <mailto:[email protected]> P. O. Box 455 Clanwilliam 8135 LinkedIn Twitter <https://twitter.com/africanaunty> From: Patty Myers <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Sunday 19 January 2014 at 10:14 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] James Frost Hi there Please could someone tell me how I can get a copy of a Death Certificate for a death that occurred in Standerton, Tvl in 1901. I have found a record for James Frost who died there on the 26/11/1901 in the Standerton Concentration Camp. The only ones available online at Family Search are for the Cape Province. Thank you Patty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Patty The only place is the Department of Home Affairs which you need to go in physically to apply. If you have a modern ID number then it will go much faster. Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Professional Genealogical Researcher Email <mailto:[email protected]> P. O. Box 455 Clanwilliam 8135 LinkedIn Twitter <https://twitter.com/africanaunty> From: Patty Myers <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Sunday 19 January 2014 at 10:14 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] James Frost Hi there Please could someone tell me how I can get a copy of a Death Certificate for a death that occurred in Standerton, Tvl in 1901. I have found a record for James Frost who died there on the 26/11/1901 in the Standerton Concentration Camp. The only ones available online at Family Search are for the Cape Province. Thank you Patty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message