Thank you Keith! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Meintjes Sent: 28 January 2014 11:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] John KNIPE/FINDLAY/SWALES/O"NEAL/THOMPSON > Does anybody live in PTA and go to the Archives? If that does not work out, you can order photos of the documents at www.eggsa.org Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 04:41:19 AM EST From: "Bev" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] John KNIPE/FINDLAY/SWALES/O"NEAL/THOMPSON We are on a roll now. John KNIPE married Eleanor O'NEAL in abt 1902 John KNIPE died 1907 They had 3 daughters one of whom died an infant. Cynthia KNIPE Olive KNIPE married James Govenlock FINDLAY 1929. James died in 1940. [I can get this from our local FHS] Olive KNIPE FINDLAY re married a widower Bazil Dennis SWALES whose first wife was Vera MOLD. Bazil died in 1960 TAB Eleanor O'NEAL KNIPE THOMPSON died 1960 but only predeceased spouse is John KNIPE- TAB Does anybody live in PTA and go to the Archives? The last doc becomes critical because it will give me an idea of which PR to start looking in for marriages bap etc. I live in DBN and can go to either the PMB archives or the DBN archives for you. Thank you Bev ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We are on a roll now. John KNIPE married Eleanor O'NEAL in abt 1902 John KNIPE died 1907 They had 3 daughters one of whom died an infant. Cynthia KNIPE Olive KNIPE married James Govenlock FINDLAY 1929. James died in 1940. [I can get this from our local FHS] Olive KNIPE FINDLAY re married a widower Bazil Dennis SWALES whose first wife was Vera MOLD. Bazil died in 1960 TAB Eleanor O'NEAL KNIPE THOMPSON died 1960 but only predeceased spouse is John KNIPE- TAB Does anybody live in PTA and go to the Archives? The last doc becomes critical because it will give me an idea of which PR to start looking in for marriages bap etc. I live in DBN and can go to either the PMB archives or the DBN archives for you. Thank you Bev

Bart- very many thanks! I have the 1892 passenger record and will look at the 1900 one- if it is "our John KNIPE" . John's parents are William and Eleanor but the parents never came out to SA. Of their 9 children, one died as an infant, the youngest daughter Eleanor Maud, stayed in Cumberland, Jane Forrester's daughter from her first marriage came to SA in 1920, Robina's son came as did her daughter- but the daughter returned to Cumberland- and the rest came to SA and stayed. I have all the documentation- and all of these have been well researched. John was the problem-as there are no estate papers for him, but I will try and get hold of the death cert of Eleanor O'NEAL/KNIPE/THOMPSON. That will clarify a great deal. The burial records told us nothing more than the gravestone. I found a passenger record for James Findlay and his wife Olive- listed as a civil servant Tanganynika- so that is enough for me! I am chuffed that we are on track now with his story, and can finish off the KNIPES of Cumberland. The COAD/TRENGOVE story will be done when I sort out the twins descendants! Regards Bev -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bart Simon Sent: 27 January 2014 10:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] KNIPE-John === With regards: [Olive KNIPE b abt 1905 who married a James FINDLAY in 1929. [Marriage cert dated 7 Dec 1929 of an Olive KNIPE [24] b SA who married James ?orenlock FINDLAY [27] b Scotland and one of the witnesses was an E KNIPE].]: [E KNIPE]: Who are the parents of your John Knipe back in England ?. Maybe this E. Knipe is the grandmother [Eleanor Knipe] ?. Are the parents of your John + Olive Knipe one [William + Eleanor Knipe], and did [William + Eleanor Knipe] come out to RSA ?. Otherwise [E. Knipe] is the mother, the only Knipe parent alive to witness her children's marriage. E=Eleanor ?.... === There is also: JOHN KNIPE ROSLIN CASTLE b:1872 Age: 20 Dest: CAPE Depart: 1892 MR. J KNIPE NORHAM CASTLE b:1872 Age: 28 Dest: CAPE Depart: 1900 === http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm30ddf0?20140127221347F8A2 2F63&DN=00000001 KNIPE, ELEANOR MARIA. ESTATE PAPERS. 1943. === http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm30ddf0?20140127221347F8A2 2F63&DN=00000002 THOMPSON, ELEANOR. BORN O'NEAL. FORMERLY KNIPE. 1960. REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE JOHN KNIPE. === .B.S. ====== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Does anybody live in PTA and go to the Archives? If that does not work out, you can order photos of the documents at www.eggsa.org Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 04:41:19 AM EST From: "Bev" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] John KNIPE/FINDLAY/SWALES/O"NEAL/THOMPSON We are on a roll now. John KNIPE married Eleanor O'NEAL in abt 1902 John KNIPE died 1907 They had 3 daughters one of whom died an infant. Cynthia KNIPE Olive KNIPE married James Govenlock FINDLAY 1929. James died in 1940. [I can get this from our local FHS] Olive KNIPE FINDLAY re married a widower Bazil Dennis SWALES whose first wife was Vera MOLD. Bazil died in 1960 TAB Eleanor O'NEAL KNIPE THOMPSON died 1960 but only predeceased spouse is John KNIPE- TAB Does anybody live in PTA and go to the Archives? The last doc becomes critical because it will give me an idea of which PR to start looking in for marriages bap etc. I live in DBN and can go to either the PMB archives or the DBN archives for you. Thank you Bev ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The URLs I gave out do not work, but you can go to NAAIRS for these. BS.

=== http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm30ddf0?20140127221347F8A22F63&DN=00000002 THOMPSON, ELEANOR. BORN O'NEAL. FORMERLY KNIPE. 1960. REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE JOHN KNIPE. === http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm30ddf0?201401272228153C33D963&DN=00000009 THOMPSON, WILLIAM. (SSP THOMPSON, ELEANOR HANNAH). 1920-1921. === I think it might be this Eleanor Hannah O'Neal m1: John Knipe, m2: William Thompson ???. Hannah is the name of the child that died from her m1 !!!. === .B.S. ======

=== With regards: [Olive KNIPE b abt 1905 who married a James FINDLAY in 1929. [Marriage cert dated 7 Dec 1929 of an Olive KNIPE [24] b SA who married James ?orenlock FINDLAY [27] b Scotland and one of the witnesses was an E KNIPE].]: [E KNIPE]: Who are the parents of your John Knipe back in England ?. Maybe this E. Knipe is the grandmother [Eleanor Knipe] ?. Are the parents of your John + Olive Knipe one [William + Eleanor Knipe], and did [William + Eleanor Knipe] come out to RSA ?. Otherwise [E. Knipe] is the mother, the only Knipe parent alive to witness her children's marriage. E=Eleanor ?.... === There is also: JOHN KNIPE ROSLIN CASTLE b:1872 Age: 20 Dest: CAPE Depart: 1892 MR. J KNIPE NORHAM CASTLE b:1872 Age: 28 Dest: CAPE Depart: 1900 === http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm30ddf0?20140127221347F8A22F63&DN=00000001 KNIPE, ELEANOR MARIA. ESTATE PAPERS. 1943. === http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm30ddf0?20140127221347F8A22F63&DN=00000002 THOMPSON, ELEANOR. BORN O'NEAL. FORMERLY KNIPE. 1960. REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE JOHN KNIPE. === .B.S. ======

Hi Adrian, These KNIPE's only started coming to SA in 1892 and they [as in brothers and sisters and their spouses] all went to the mines so TVL is where they will be found. Fortunately, I have all the others info, and he is the last. Many thanks anyway- Bev -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Milly & Adrian Rowe Sent: 27 January 2014 12:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] KNIPE-John Hi Bev We have a John KNIPE marrying Sarah BENNETT on 13 Dec 1891 in PMB on the Natal Marriage Index. Could this be your Jack? Perhaps this marriage is in the wrong Province? Adrian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bev Sent: 27 January 2014 10:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] KNIPE-John This is what I know. John KNIPE b 1872 Frizington, Cumberland died 10 Nov 1907 Langlaagte buried Braamfontein Cemetary. This date comes from his gravestone, and from the family gravestone in St Pauls Frizington. There was no estate on NASA. Where would I start looking for a death notice. He came to South Africa in 1892 and was a carpenter. Ellen has provided me with a marriage cert dated 7 Dec 1929 of an Olive KNIPE [24] b SA who married James ?orenlock FINDLAY [27] b Scotland and one of the witnesses was an E KNIPE. And from my mother; John [Jack] KNIPE married Nellie [maybe Eleanor??]in South Africa and had 2 daughters. [They actually had 3] Catherine [Sissy] KNIPE who married a MYNHARDT and in 1991 was still living in Kensington Jhb. They had two children. Olive KNIPE b abt 1905 who married a James FINDLAY in 1929. Hannah KNIPE was born in 1908 and died age 7 ½ mths on 4 Nov 1908. Up to now I have relied on “family docs” so any ideas where to start looking for the marriage, bap etc of this family? Thank you- Bev ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7035 - Release Date: 01/26/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7034 - Release Date: 01/26/14 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bev We have a John KNIPE marrying Sarah BENNETT on 13 Dec 1891 in PMB on the Natal Marriage Index. Could this be your Jack? Perhaps this marriage is in the wrong Province? Adrian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bev Sent: 27 January 2014 10:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] KNIPE-John This is what I know. John KNIPE b 1872 Frizington, Cumberland died 10 Nov 1907 Langlaagte buried Braamfontein Cemetary. This date comes from his gravestone, and from the family gravestone in St Pauls Frizington. There was no estate on NASA. Where would I start looking for a death notice. He came to South Africa in 1892 and was a carpenter. Ellen has provided me with a marriage cert dated 7 Dec 1929 of an Olive KNIPE [24] b SA who married James ?orenlock FINDLAY [27] b Scotland and one of the witnesses was an E KNIPE. And from my mother; John [Jack] KNIPE married Nellie [maybe Eleanor??]in South Africa and had 2 daughters. [They actually had 3] Catherine [Sissy] KNIPE who married a MYNHARDT and in 1991 was still living in Kensington Jhb. They had two children. Olive KNIPE b abt 1905 who married a James FINDLAY in 1929. Hannah KNIPE was born in 1908 and died age 7 ½ mths on 4 Nov 1908. Up to now I have relied on “family docs” so any ideas where to start looking for the marriage, bap etc of this family? Thank you- Bev ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7035 - Release Date: 01/26/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7034 - Release Date: 01/26/14

This is what I know. John KNIPE b 1872 Frizington, Cumberland died 10 Nov 1907 Langlaagte buried Braamfontein Cemetary. This date comes from his gravestone, and from the family gravestone in St Pauls Frizington. There was no estate on NASA. Where would I start looking for a death notice. He came to South Africa in 1892 and was a carpenter. Ellen has provided me with a marriage cert dated 7 Dec 1929 of an Olive KNIPE [24] b SA who married James ?orenlock FINDLAY [27] b Scotland and one of the witnesses was an E KNIPE. And from my mother; John [Jack] KNIPE married Nellie [maybe Eleanor??]in South Africa and had 2 daughters. [They actually had 3] Catherine [Sissy] KNIPE who married a MYNHARDT and in 1991 was still living in Kensington Jhb. They had two children. Olive KNIPE b abt 1905 who married a James FINDLAY in 1929. Hannah KNIPE was born in 1908 and died age 7 ½ mths on 4 Nov 1908. Up to now I have relied on “family docs” so any ideas where to start looking for the marriage, bap etc of this family? Thank you- Bev

Many thanks, Ellen - It must be her! There were 2 daughters according to my mom- but when we found John KNIPE'S grave in Braamfontein, there was a little Hannah who was born after her father's death and died age 7mths. This marriage cert would give a birth year of 1905 for Olive, and Hannah was born in 1907. The eldest girl who my mom called Cissy but whose name mom gave as Catherine??? was probably born in 1903. I think she married a MYNHARDT and in 1991 was still living in Kensington JHB. She had two children. Love this list!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ellen Stanton Sent: 26 January 2014 06:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] WALTON;SEWELL;WILKE Hi Bev, Is this the one you're looking for? http://tinyurl.com/l5c47p2 Regards, Ellen Stanton And as a bonus- I knew Olive Sewell and thought that she might have been an Olive KNIPE. Does anyone know an Olive KNIPE daughter of a John KNIPE who died in 1907? Bev Kirby ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 25 Jan 2014, at 4:59 PM, Tombi Peck wrote (snip): > Perhaps the confusion about whether it was in Pretoria or > Johannesburg came about as it's situated in Johannesburg but in the > early days of Johannesburg it fell under the Diocese of Pretoria?! > Best wishes, > Tombi Peck > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message Correct -- Johannesburg was a small settlement at that time, mainly centred round the gold-mines, and Pretoria, although of course nowhere near as big as it is today, was the seat of Government of the ZAR. Johannesburg grew very quickly but not is such a helter-skelter manner as Kimberley, because Kimberley was open-cast mining in one "blue clay" pipe, whereas Johannesburg involved far more capital investment and much more onerous underground mining into rock. But any Lister on the Cornish Rootsweb List will be aware of the saying that if you looked into a hole anywhere in the world there would be sure to be a Cornishman at the bottom of it; as the iron mining in Cornwall declined because of falling yields, the miners went to California for the 1849 Rush, and in turn to New South Wales a few years later, and to Chile, Peru, Tasmania, New Zealand and many other places, and you'll find recognizably Cornish names in all these countries. O course many of their descendants stayed on in other occupations: I well remember a butcher in Alice, in the Eastern Cape, called "Tremeer". (He called his shop the "Reemert Butchery"!) Andrew Rodger [email protected]

N n Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Steve Hayes" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 06:17:32 To: Bart Simon<[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lilian Sampson WILLIAMS (married name: GARRITY), Thomas GARRITY On 24 Jan 2014 at 23:43, Bart Simon wrote: > Further: > > http://www.blueplaques.co.za/content/st-marys-less-jeppestown > > http://www.heritageportal.co.za/forum/st-marys-less-jeppestown-0 > > With regards other info: As you have it [Parish: St. Mary’s Jeppestown > Pretoria]: As far as I know, there is no 'Jeppestown' in or near Pretoria. > There is the [St. Mary's the Less, Jeppestown] church, on the URLs given, it > also shows you exactly where to find it. The church looks closed up most of > the time. Jeppestown is at the west end of Jules Street. St. Mary's the Less > in Jeppestown, is the oldest church and the second oldest building in Joburg. > Address: 39-41 Park Street, Jeppestown. So you not want to be looking > immediately in Pretoria any more, it is all happing around Jules Street. I have a book about it, called "Jeppe Jubilee", and once knew a priest who had been the parish priest there (he's dead now). The area around the church has become more commercial/industrial, so not many people living around the church these days -- all moved out to the suburbs. By before 1925 or so the church would have been in the Diocese of Pretoria, the Diocese of Johannesburg was formed about 1924/25, and has been further sub-divided since. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: [email protected] Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Heather: === This is YOUR William Garrity's Birth/Bap record !!!: Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 Birth, Marriage & Death Name: William Garrity Mother: Elizabeth Garrity Father: Thomas Garrity Birth: date Baptism: Lancashire === This is his father's marriage record which shows Thomas Garrity's father to be Michael Garrity !!!: Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 Marriage & Divorce Name: Thomas Garrity Spouse: Elizabeth Anderton Father: Michael Garrity Birth: year Marriage: Lancashire, England === This is almost undoubtedly the correct record for your William Garrity. You will have to obtain this record as for the second one, which CLEARLY gives Michael Garrity as the father of your Thomas Garrity !!!. This truly means you are one generation back now too.... You are in the RIGHT area here back in Manchester/Lancashire etc. You need to spend some time here too. This will hopefully place you and confirm that you truly back in the right place in England !!!. I suggest you rename your [William Arthur Garrity] to just [William Garrity] until any further second names are actually known to you. His birth record is there, and clearly a contingent of Garrity hereabouts. You have asked me a few times about where [William Garrity d:Abt 1916?] might be buried, I can only answer so much. It is suspected he is buried in the same grave as his wife who d:30-07-1950. I would think this is NOT the case, because if so, William Garrity would have been buried first 34 years earlier where the newly found grave of Lilian Sampson Garrity now rests. The headstone is only for Lilian, and on the right page of the book type headstone, it only says: "MOM". It's not MOM & DAD !!!. His place of rest is currently unknown.... However all round Lilian's grave are unmarked graves or so .... You need time to contact all your cousins. I feel you have quite a lot to go on with. I would just like to mention the photo on frame/page 14 (with the dog in it), that's a classic photo. I like the way you have done your tree, but one still needs a family tree database type program etc. === I have Always had a Sense of Spirituality being in High Places, Like being on the Top of a High Hill for Instance, But when being Too High up, I have a Sense of being Afraid of Heights. By B.S. ==================================================

Hello: I have quite a nice photo I took in the Primrose Cemetery recently. Probably the largest grave, which has at least 6 remains, with maybe 2 more it seems. It has a truly decent marble (?) statue above the headstone, I assume a female angel, wearing boot/shoes, holding 3 roses in right hand. There is much detail on this statue, and the complete hollow between the left arm and body etc. If EGGSA or interested persons would like to see this photo, I can pass it on, let me know. If you do pass this way, take a quiet moment to stand in front of this statue and look into her face. Just Asking: Are these types of statues made out of solid stone, and are they hand crafted/made, or how are they made and from what ?. For the Agnes Stevenson Nagington portion: Born 30-11-18(9)9, Died 12-6-19(9)4 [It seems on closer inspection!]. .B.S. ========================

Hi Bev, Is this the one you're looking for? http://tinyurl.com/l5c47p2 Regards, Ellen Stanton And as a bonus- I knew Olive Sewell and thought that she might have been an Olive KNIPE. Does anyone know an Olive KNIPE daughter of a John KNIPE who died in 1907? Bev Kirby

Thank you Steve, very interesting to know! Linda On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote: > On 25 Jan 2014 at 7:58, Laquita Belinfante wrote: > > > Just a question about the priest of St. Mary's the Less you knew. Could > he > > have been Father Tom Comber? > > It was indeed. Did you know him too? > > For those interested, there were 5 Anglican parishes in the old eastern > suburbs of Johannesburg. > > St Michael & St George in Bez Valley -- down in the valley and the lowest > of > the low > > St Andrew's Kensignton - halfway up the hill, and moderate to low > > St Patrick's, Malvern - over the hill, and moderately high > > St John's, Belgravia - highest geographically and generally high church > > St Mary-the-Less, Jeppe - not quite as high geographically, but the highest > of the high ecclesiastically. > > They were all within about 3 miles of each other, so people living in the > old > eastern suburbs might go to any of them depending as much on ecclesiastical > taste as geographical proximity. And the trams to all of them passed pretty > close to St Mary's Jeppe. > > So if you're looking for an elusive baptism or marriage and don't find it > in > one parish, you might find it in one of the others. > > About 50 years ago the Rector of Bez Valley was the Revd Jim Sexby. The > other > clergy in the area called him "Mr By" because they thought it safer to > leave > sex out of it. Those on the other side of the hill were Mr nothing, they > were > all Father something or other. > > > > > > -- > Keep well, > Steve Hayes > Blog: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com > Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm > E-mail: [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Heather: I took liberty today to go to the address at [Sandilands Rd, Malvern East]. I saw cars inside so I decided to ask permission to take a photo of the house. An elderly woman came out and I started to let her know why I was there. The conversation took a slight turn. It turns out they bought the house from John Black who built the house. What is interesting is that the current occupants knew John Black before they bought the house from him !!!. What I found even more interesting is that it came out the "SAMPSON family still lives just over the road" !!! !!! !!!. There is little doubt from my side that Lilian Sampson Williams is related to this SAMPSON family. Also mention of a Mr. Sampson (?) a preacher in Benoni/Boksburg, also a number others going to the St. James Church not too far away, another woman she said she would be phoning, and another very old woman maybe in her 80'2 of whom you would want to contact soon I would think, can't recall the name, etc. I think she would be able to help you a fair bit here. I will introduce you hereafter off-list via email, I have her email address. I left and took a single photo of the house from outside etc. I also took a photo of the St. Mary's the Less Church in Park Street in Jeppestown. If anyone else would like this particular photo too, let me know. .B.S. =========================

I am just speechless!! This is so exciting - John Black is my great uncle whom I met as a young girl once he was living in Margaret, he married Lilian Sampson WILLIAMS eldest daughter. It has been said that he also built the house next to the one he lived in too. Thank you so much for putting me in touch with her. I am eagerly awaiting my trip with so many new people to visit with and so much information to gather. Thank you so much for the photo of the grave, my mother is just overwhelmed - she now knows where her grandmother's final resting place is. Heather Sent from my Cream Puff On Jan 25, 2014, at 10:20 AM, "Bart Simon" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Heather: > > I took liberty today to go to the address at [Sandilands Rd, Malvern East]. > I saw cars inside so I decided to ask permission to take a photo of the > house. An elderly woman came out and I started to let her know why I was > there. The conversation took a slight turn. It turns out they bought the > house from John Black who built the house. What is interesting is that the > current occupants knew John Black before they bought the house from him !!!. > What I found even more interesting is that it came out the "SAMPSON family > still lives just over the road" !!! !!! !!!. There is little doubt from my > side that Lilian Sampson Williams is related to this SAMPSON family. Also > mention of a Mr. Sampson (?) a preacher in Benoni/Boksburg, also a number > others going to the St. James Church not too far away, another woman she > said she would be phoning, and another very old woman maybe in her 80'2 of > whom you would want to contact soon I would think, can't recall the name, > etc. I think she would be able to help you a fair bit here. I will introduce > you hereafter off-list via email, I have her email address. I left and took > a single photo of the house from outside etc. I also took a photo of the St. > Mary's the Less Church in Park Street in Jeppestown. If anyone else would > like this particular photo too, let me know. > > .B.S. > ========================= > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bart, I am sure eGGSA will be happy to receive and index any photos you have. Instructions on how to submit them are on the site. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:07:53 PM EST From: "Bart Simon" <[email protected]> To: "RW RSA" <[email protected]> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] NAGINGTON: Primrose Cemetery [!!!] Hello: I have quite a nice photo I took in the Primrose Cemetery recently. Probably the largest grave, which has at least 6 remains, with maybe 2 more it seems. It has a truly decent marble (?) statue above the headstone, I assume a female angel, wearing boot/shoes, holding 3 roses in right hand. There is much detail on this statue, and the complete hollow between the left arm and body etc. If EGGSA or interested persons would like to see this photo, I can pass it on, let me know. If you do pass this way, take a quiet moment to stand in front of this statue and look into her face. Just Asking: Are these types of statues made out of solid stone, and are they hand crafted/made, or how are they made and from what ?. For the Agnes Stevenson Nagington portion: Born 30-11-18(9)9, Died 12-6-19(9)4 [It seems on closer inspection!]. .B.S. ======================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message