Geni is NOT connected with Genes Reunited in anyway. -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eira Makepeace via Sent: February-28-15 9:26 To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Genes reunited I joined this site some years ago and managed to get a family tree online. It was free at the time but you could pay a small sum to join Geni pro. Then I saw that my data was being pinched from Geni and even translated into Afrikaans with SA Pama generation numbering and placed on the company website which I understand bought out Geni, called My Heritage. This site does charge a monthly fee but there is no ownership of the data. If you accept this and don't mind the rather clunky way of inputting your data and the difficulty of contacting Geni to amend or remove data, and don't mind if your data is filched by people you do do not know, go ahead. Eira Sent from my iPad ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Grant Like any resource there is some benefit in using it although in IMHO very little but its hard to say how useful it might be as everyone's research is different and you may profit greatly, whereas others may not When I was a subscriber, most messages to users sent went unanswered and the majority of those that did generally knew far less than I did, in some cases their data was wildly inaccurate But again that may be completely different in your case Treat *anything* you find from other researchers with a pinch (if not a sackful) of salt, a found many of the GR users had questionable research skills I found the user family tree system on GR very clunky but that was some time ago and they may well have improved that The records they have are via findmypast as they are owned by the same people I would suggest its probably worth trying for one period to see what you find but do make sure the auto renew is not set as they did have a habit of hiding that Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 28/02/2015 01:33, G B via wrote: > Hi Listers, > > Any views on the "Genes Reunited" site... Is it worthwhile subscribing? > > Thanks, Grant

What would your main purpose for joining be: putting your tree online, trying to connect with other people or looking up records? I've been a subscriber to GR for quite a while and have found it moderately useful and have had people contacting me regarding the part of my tree which is online. One of the downsides is that about 20% of the messages I send don't get a reply, but I guess people don't renew their sub or move email addresses, so hey ho... I haven't used GR for looking up records so can't comment on how good that part of the site is. I would say it was good for dipping into every now and again to see if a name you are interested in is 'out there somewhere'. Anyway, I haven't yet reached the point where I don't think I'm not getting value for money. Regards, Phil On 28 February 2015 at 02:33, G B via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > Any views on the "Genes Reunited" site... Is it worthwhile subscribing? > > Thanks, Grant > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Grant. I have been with Genes for years,through it have found many family member albeit distant but family nonetheless. I also have my tree on it. I think it is worth subscribing . All the best Cate On 28 February 2015 at 01:33, G B via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > Any views on the "Genes Reunited" site... Is it worthwhile subscribing? > > Thanks, Grant > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Feb 27, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Bart Simon via wrote: > Zimbabwe Death Notices (1904-1976): > https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1838530 > The records have just come available online. > > FANTASTIC...THank you thank you thank you. A little gold mine of gold miners:-) I found some of my Kidwell, Hulbert and Edwards... wonderful. My paternal grandfather Walter Oliver HULBERT was one of 11 children, and I just found one of the "missing" siblings, John Henry HULBERT. Great! (Two to go). It turns out he died in the Spanish flu epidemic and his son died a few yrs later age 27 of malaria. Not surprising folks lost track of that line. I am also working on finding all my paternal grandmother EDWARDS's siblings, as she was one of 13. I hope that some of these Rhodesian Edwards records may be useful there. The death notices have awfully little info besides cause of death - no spouse or family requested on the cert, just number of children. Sometimes a relative reports the death and is named. Slim pickings but every little bit can help sometimes. So lovely to have these transcribed and available on line for us. .........Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.Furryboots.info (Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy) "Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Hi Listers, Any views on the "Genes Reunited" site... Is it worthwhile subscribing? Thanks, Grant

Zimbabwe Death Notices (1904-1976): https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1838530 The records have just come available online.

brilliant -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of south-africa-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 26 February 2015 10:01 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 73 Today's Topics: 1. Books of Lawrence G. Green and Indexing (Steve Hayes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 06:11:55 +0200 From: "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Books of Lawrence G. Green and Indexing To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <54EEB92B.31489.E0778F@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I've written a review of "To the River's End" by Lawrence G. Green on my blog here: https://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/to-the-rivers-end/ which also deals with some of the genealogical uses of his books, and links to some other articles with cautions. I also posted links to this article on Facebook, which led to a discussion of indexing Green's books, which several people seem to have attempted, with varying results. Perhaps this is a discussion that needs to be moved to the ZA Indexers list, but I thought I'd begin here, and in the African genealogy list, as many of Green's books cover a wider area than South Africa. The first index I saw was of 23 of Green's books, and appeared to be based largely on the indexes printed in the books themselves. It nid not give page numbers, just the index entry and the book title. I found several problems with this index: 1. The personal names were not listed by surname first. 2. Not all of Green's books were included 3. The printed indexes in the books are themselves only partial I've seen another index that seems to deal with some of these problems, but it has a different one, in that it seems to be only an index of personal names. I've been experimenting with an index of a book that was not included in the first list -- "Full many a glorious morning", and would like to suggest this format that could be used as a template for a more complete and useful index. I think page numbers can be included, since, since though many of Green's books have been reprinted, they have not generally been reset, and so the page numbers are generally consistent in various editions. Is anyone interested in such a project? -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------ To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA list administrator, send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA mailing list, send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SOUTH-AFRICA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 73 ********************************************

I've written a review of "To the River's End" by Lawrence G. Green on my blog here: https://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/to-the-rivers-end/ which also deals with some of the genealogical uses of his books, and links to some other articles with cautions. I also posted links to this article on Facebook, which led to a discussion of indexing Green's books, which several people seem to have attempted, with varying results. Perhaps this is a discussion that needs to be moved to the ZA Indexers list, but I thought I'd begin here, and in the African genealogy list, as many of Green's books cover a wider area than South Africa. The first index I saw was of 23 of Green's books, and appeared to be based largely on the indexes printed in the books themselves. It nid not give page numbers, just the index entry and the book title. I found several problems with this index: 1. The personal names were not listed by surname first. 2. Not all of Green's books were included 3. The printed indexes in the books are themselves only partial I've seen another index that seems to deal with some of these problems, but it has a different one, in that it seems to be only an index of personal names. I've been experimenting with an index of a book that was not included in the first list -- "Full many a glorious morning", and would like to suggest this format that could be used as a template for a more complete and useful index. I think page numbers can be included, since, since though many of Green's books have been reprinted, they have not generally been reset, and so the page numbers are generally consistent in various editions. Is anyone interested in such a project? -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

There are 7 new or updated files on the eggsa settler site at http://www.eggsa.org/1820-settlers/ The Settler Returns are now complete to the end of D (Daniell not included in the file as he went out later) In addition I have been looking at some of BRADSHAW's Party based on original images of parish registers and have added/updated extra information files for Isaac WIGGLE, Thomas BRENT and the brothers Joseph, Henry and Philip KING. In the Newspaper Section the first six months of 1882 have been added to the Cape Times transcriptions by Clive Jones http://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/index.php/cape-times Sue

Information of that kind doesn't seem to exist on the internet. Like so many of the fine old Cape Town shops, Cartwright's is long gone; the building was acquired by developers, and has been refurbished as a block of apartments for people visiting Cape Town or indeed staying in town for easier access to work, but like all such developments it is ruinously up-market and the plebs just have to put up with the not always satisfactory public transport system. Cape Town is of course not alone in that: when I first arrived in Melbourne in 1961, the close inner suburbs had over the previous 50 years or so degenerated into slums, but since then the trend has reversed, they have become gentrified, and are back to the close-packed residential use they had in the 19th century, only even further up-market -- again, because of the vagaries of the public transport system and traffic-jammed roads. It is made worse by the tendency of small country towns to die and the folk who used to live there flocking to the major cities, and primarily to the Melbourne Metropolitan area, now several times larger than it was before World War I. It's a world-wide problem, particularly severe in Australia, much less so in New Zealand and the UK (or at least in Middle England) and the principal European countries, these last not suffering from the interposition of large more or less arid areas between population centres. Andrew Rodger rodgera@audioio.com On 23/02/2015, at 7:53 PM, joy via wrote: > > Good Morning all ! > > I am trying to put some life into this personality for the 125th anniversary > of the Cape Town Photographic Society, as he was twice our President in the > early 1900's. > > He appears to be the founder of JD Cartwright's, and responsible for > building the 7 story edifice that became known lovingly to Capetonians as > Cartwright's Corner. > > I am looking for interesting personal snippets about him - something to do > with photography will be an added bonus ! > > Many thanks > > Joy Wellbeloved > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Joy Cartwright, John Dean (*Nantwich, Cheshire, Eng., 9.4.1845 - †Cape Town, 16.10.1930), merchant and politician, was the son of Sampson Edward Cartwright, a baker, and his,wife, Ellen Dean. After attending school at Nantwich and King Edward's School in Birmingham, C. left England with his father in 1856 for Natal, where the latter took up sugar planting. In 1859 C. joined the Cape Town firm of provision merchants, Jacob Watermeyer and Co., and receiving an inheritance from his mother in 1866 invested in that business, taking it over completely in 1873. Under his direction and enterprise the firm grew and prospered, changed its name to J. D. Cartwright and Co., and shifted from Strand Street to bigger premises in Adderley Street in 1888. Ten years later, on the corner of Adderley and Darling Streets, he erected the six-storeyed Mansion House which became the firm's headquarters, and for generations thereafter 'Cartwright's Corner' was to become Cape Town's centre of social gravity. Early in the 1920s the fashion house next door, Fletcher's, amalgamated with Cartwrights, and Fletcher and Cartwright's grocery, chinaware and Manchester departments became nationally renowned. C. was elected to the Cape House of Assembly in 1898, retaining his seat in the 1904 elections as one of the five Cape Town representatives. Though not a very frequent speaker in debates he was a watchful guardian of Cape Town's interests. During the Second Anglo-Boer War (1899-1902) he raised a company of a hundred men, 'The Mansion House Company', which he commanded. >From 1907 until the time of Union he was a member of the Legislative Council of the Cape parliament, and afterwards represented the Rondebosch division in the Cape Provincial Council, of which body he was chairman for five years. He was one of the founders of the Y.M.C.A. movement in the Cape and of the East End Public School in De Villiers Street, Cape Town. He acted as a government nominee on the Cape School Board and served on the board of trustees of the Somerset Hospital. He also had other business interests, including a firm which dealt in curry-powder, and was a director and chairman of the Atlas Insurance Company. He was a prominent tennis player, becoming vice-president of the Western Province Lawn Tennis Association. C. was married three times: he first married Dorothy Maud Woolhouse and after her Annie Watermeyer. His third wife, Lottie Mason, survived him. He had seven children, three sons joining the firm as partners. A photograph of C. appears in S.A.W.W. (infra). Source - dictionary of SA Biography There is also a book called The Corner House by AP Cartwright 1965 The house of the De Wit family boasts one f the finest rococo-wavy parapets ever built, on the corner of Adderley street now Cartwrights builiding – source African Note and News March 1975 vol 21 no 5 Search the National Archives section on photos - there should be lots as there are many mentioned in the DSAB Regards Heather From: Andrew Rodger via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: Andrew Rodger <rodgera@audioio.com>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 6:07 AM To: joy <joy.wellbeloved@telkomsa.net>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] John Dean Cartwright - died 1930 Information of that kind doesn't seem to exist on the internet. Like so many of the fine old Cape Town shops, Cartwright's is long gone; the building was acquired by developers, and has been refurbished as a block of apartments for people visiting Cape Town or indeed staying in town for easier access to work, but like all such developments it is ruinously up-market and the plebs just have to put up with the not always satisfactory public transport system. Cape Town is of course not alone in that: when I first arrived in Melbourne in 1961, the close inner suburbs had over the previous 50 years or so degenerated into slums, but since then the trend has reversed, they have become gentrified, and are back to the close-packed residential use they had in the 19th century, only even further up-market -- again, because of the vagaries of the public transport system and traffic-jammed roads. It is made worse by the tendency of small country towns to die and the folk who used to live there flocking to the major cities, and primarily to the Melbo! urne Metropolitan area, now several times larger than it was before World War I. It's a world-wide problem, particularly severe in Australia, much less so in New Zealand and the UK (or at least in Middle England) and the principal European countries, these last not suffering from the interposition of large more or less arid areas between population centres. Andrew Rodger rodgera@audioio.com On 23/02/2015, at 7:53 PM, joy via wrote: > > Good Morning all ! > > I am trying to put some life into this personality for the 125th anniversary > of the Cape Town Photographic Society, as he was twice our President in the > early 1900's. > > He appears to be the founder of JD Cartwright's, and responsible for > building the 7 story edifice that became known lovingly to Capetonians as > Cartwright's Corner. > > I am looking for interesting personal snippets about him - something to do > with photography will be an added bonus ! > > Many thanks > > Joy Wellbeloved > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Morning all ! I am trying to put some life into this personality for the 125th anniversary of the Cape Town Photographic Society, as he was twice our President in the early 1900's. He appears to be the founder of JD Cartwright's, and responsible for building the 7 story edifice that became known lovingly to Capetonians as Cartwright's Corner. I am looking for interesting personal snippets about him - something to do with photography will be an added bonus ! Many thanks Joy Wellbeloved --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hi Bart This Elizabeth Ann Roye you mention born c. 1869 must have been her daughter as the marriage took place in 1876 so this one would've been too young to be a witness. Now the Elizabeth Ann Anderson is this maybe the one that arrived in 1859 with the Aided Immigration to the Cape and then married a Roye? -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of andrea franks via Sent: 20 February 2015 08:57 PM To: Bart Simon; south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Elizabeth Ann Roye Dear Bart, Is there a site where I can find the list of Soldiers killed at the Battle of Hlobane, 28 March 1879 (out side Vryheid)?, I am looking for my gggran, Emma Catherine, formally PHILLIPSON, (nee FERREIRA) second husband STEWART, all I know is that he was killed at the battle of Hlobane, I don't even know his first name. After Mr. Stewart's death, Emma married a Mr Evett SAUNDERS, and lived happily ever after. Sorry I had to hijack this thread, as my posts don't seem to be going through. Regards Andrea Franks On 2/20/15, Bart Simon via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello: Mrs. E A Roye b:c.1869 age 30 left 1898 from Southampton to > Port Elizabeth on the Braemar Castle. > = > South Africa, Voter Indexes, 1719-1996 Schools, Directories & Church > Histories > Name: Elizabeth Ann Anderson [Elizabeth Ann Roy] = ??? Marriage > Attached To: John Hughes (1865-1953) ???. > = > Bart. > -----Original Message----- > I would imagine that Roye would be her married name. She is a witness > to my > > 2xgreat grandparents marriage in 1876 at the Wesleyan Methodist Church > in Port Elizabeth. The other witness was a William Barker. 1890: > "Memorials received" Elizabeth Ann Roye. > --------------------------------- > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Any RATHBONE researchers out there who may be able to help? I am looking for info on Percival Edward RATHBONE (b 1907) m Ivy Jane FAYERS (b 1909) in Port Shepstone in 1936. At the time of their marriage he was living in Estcourt and she was living in Plains (lower south coast of Natal). He died in 1970 and she died in the 1990s. I cannot seem to find any link between Percy and the other Natal Rathbones. Many thanks, Grant

Keith, I have accidentally put you in the blocked list. Not sure how to get out again. Can you send me an email to check? Two messages and I highlighted the wrong one!!!! Pat -------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith Meintjes via" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 8:22 AM To: "andrea franks" <mrs.a.franks@gmail.com>; <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Elizabeth Ann Roye > Andrea, > > Your posts are going through. This is the fourth time you have asked the > question! The issue seems to be that Rootsweb no longer sends a > notification > back to the author. > > I suggest you Google: > > Hlobane memorial > > There is no memorial, and possibly no list of those killed. But, there > are > some very knowledgeable people who are familiar with the event and the > place. > > Keith > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: 02:02 PM EST, 02/20/2015 > From: andrea franks via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > To: Bart Simon <thewanderer@iburst.co.za>, south-africa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Elizabeth Ann Roye > > Dear Bart, > > Is there a site where I can find the list of Soldiers killed at the > Battle of Hlobane, 28 March 1879 (out side Vryheid)?, I am looking for > my gggran, Emma Catherine, formally PHILLIPSON, (nee FERREIRA) second > husband STEWART, all I know is that he was killed at the battle of > Hlobane, I don't even know his first name. > > After Mr. Stewart's death, Emma married a Mr Evett SAUNDERS, and lived > happily ever after. > > Sorry I had to hijack this thread, as my posts don't seem to be going > through. > > > Regards > Andrea Franks > > On 2/20/15, Bart Simon via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Hello: Mrs. E A Roye b:c.1869 age 30 left 1898 from Southampton to Port >> Elizabeth on the Braemar Castle. >> = >> South Africa, Voter Indexes, 1719-1996 Schools, Directories & Church >> Histories >> Name: Elizabeth Ann Anderson [Elizabeth Ann Roy] >> = >> ??? Marriage Attached To: John Hughes (1865-1953) ???. >> = >> Bart. >> -----Original Message----- >> I would imagine that Roye would be her married name. She is a witness to > my >> >> 2xgreat grandparents marriage in 1876 at the Wesleyan Methodist Church in >> Port Elizabeth. The other witness was a William Barker. 1890: "Memorials >> received" Elizabeth Ann Roye. >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1434 / Virus Database: 4257/8648 - Release Date: 02/20/15 >

Hi Rod Taken from Merriam-Webster dictionary: Definition of KINDERBEWEIJS Roman Dutch law : a deed by a surviving spouse certifying and securing the amounts due to minor children out of the estate of a deceased. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rodg via Sent: 21 February 2015 08:03 AM To: SA List; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Kinderbewijs Good Morning, Could anyone tell what a Kinderbewijs is and what was it used for. I found reference to this in an application to the High Court for the securing of a portion of an estate for a minor child. Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device

Good Morning, Could anyone tell what a Kinderbewijs is and what was it used for. I found reference to this in an application to the High Court for the securing of a portion of an estate for a minor child. Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Dear Bart, Is there a site where I can find the list of Soldiers killed at the Battle of Hlobane, 28 March 1879 (out side Vryheid)?, I am looking for my gggran, Emma Catherine, formally PHILLIPSON, (nee FERREIRA) second husband STEWART, all I know is that he was killed at the battle of Hlobane, I don't even know his first name. After Mr. Stewart's death, Emma married a Mr Evett SAUNDERS, and lived happily ever after. Sorry I had to hijack this thread, as my posts don't seem to be going through. Regards Andrea Franks On 2/20/15, Bart Simon via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello: Mrs. E A Roye b:c.1869 age 30 left 1898 from Southampton to Port > Elizabeth on the Braemar Castle. > = > South Africa, Voter Indexes, 1719-1996 Schools, Directories & Church > Histories > Name: Elizabeth Ann Anderson [Elizabeth Ann Roy] > = > ??? Marriage Attached To: John Hughes (1865-1953) ???. > = > Bart. > -----Original Message----- > I would imagine that Roye would be her married name. She is a witness to my > > 2xgreat grandparents marriage in 1876 at the Wesleyan Methodist Church in > Port Elizabeth. The other witness was a William Barker. 1890: "Memorials > received" Elizabeth Ann Roye. > --------------------------------- > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello: Mrs. E A Roye b:c.1869 age 30 left 1898 from Southampton to Port Elizabeth on the Braemar Castle. = South Africa, Voter Indexes, 1719-1996 Schools, Directories & Church Histories Name: Elizabeth Ann Anderson [Elizabeth Ann Roy] = ??? Marriage Attached To: John Hughes (1865-1953) ???. = Bart. -----Original Message----- I would imagine that Roye would be her married name. She is a witness to my 2xgreat grandparents marriage in 1876 at the Wesleyan Methodist Church in Port Elizabeth. The other witness was a William Barker. 1890: "Memorials received" Elizabeth Ann Roye. ---------------------------------