On 7 Mar 2015 at 16:25, rodg via wrote: > Good afternoon, > Is there any listers researching the CRAIG family. I have now come across a > number of CRAIGs and would like to see if they are linked. They are; Harold > Lynn Burton CRAIG, no dates Robert CRAIG Glen Stuart CRAIG William CRAIG Any > contacts would be appreciated Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless > device I have these: Family History System 8 Mar 201 Merged Group Reports NAME: CRAIG, Ivy Rebecca, Born 26 Jul 1894 in London, England, Died ??? 1945 in Durban at age 50; FATHER: CRAIG, Frederick, Born ??? 1853, Died 5 Jan 1931 at age 78; MOTHER: GAWTHROUP, Elizabeth, Born ??? 1861 MARRIED 6 Oct 1918, to DAVIS, Jack Gabriel, Born 18 Aug 1896 in Newcastle, Natal, Died ??? 1956 at age 59; FATHER: DAVIS, Oliver, Born 3 Dec 1865, Died 26 Dec 1927 at age 62; MOTHER: COTTAM, Lily, Born 30 Nov 1870, Died 14 Nov 1942 at age 71 CHILDREN: 1. M DAVIS, John Frederick Oliver, born 5 Feb 1922 in London, died 10 Mar 1951 in Korea; Married ??? 1946 to MALCOLMESS Moira; 2 children 2. M DAVIS, Peter Craig, born 10 Jul 1923; Married to POWER, Shelagh Anne 3. M DAVIS, George Gabriel, born 15 Nov 1925 in Port Shepstone Married to DE VILLIERS, Beulah; 2 children 4. M DAVIS, Oliver, born 12 May 1929 in Port Elizabeth, died 6 Feb 2008 in Mahe, Seychelles; Married ??? 1953 to EDWARDS Joan; 3 children 5. M DAVIS, David, born 10 Jun 1933 in Durban; Married Jul 1957 to WHITE, Elizabeth Anne; 4 children * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NAME: CRAIG, Penny, Born 31 Mar 1948 in Luanshya, N. Rhodesia; FATHER: CRAIG, James Thomas, Born 17 Jun 1919; MOTHER: GANE, Elizabeth Eleanor Flower, Born 9 Jan 1922, Died 17 Jun 1983 at age 61 MARRIED 16 Dec 1972, to BLAKE, Frederick David, Born 3 Mar 1941 in East London; FATHER: BLAKE, Terence Frederick, Born 12 Jan 1908, Died 7 Mar 1980 at age 72; MOTHER: ELSTON, Marjorie Pearson, Born 8 Feb 1917 CHILDREN: 1. M BLAKE, Craig Andrew, born Sep 1975 in Cape Town 2. F BLAKE, Terri Lyndal, born Aug 1978 in Cape Town 3. M BLAKE, Ian Hilton, born May 1981 in Cape Town 4. M BLAKE, Paul Gane, born Apr 1983 in Port Elizabeth ================================================================ Residence Information From ??? 1982; Phone (041) 52-2236 Address: 284 Main Road, Walmer, Port Elizabeth 6070, South Africa From ??? 1972 Until ??? 1982 Address: 15 Camp Road, Pinelands, Cape Town * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NAME: CRAIG, Miriam (Mim), Born 30 Apr 1900 in London, England, Died 18 Feb 1983 in Caterham, England at age 82; FATHER: CRAIG Frederick, Born ??? 1853, Died 5 Jan 1931 at age 78; MOTHER: GAWTHROUP, Elizabeth, Born ??? 1861 MARRIED 11 Jul 1932 in Cape Town, to BAGOT, Frederick, Born 17 Jul 1892 in Durban, Natal, Died 17 Jul 1964 in Storrington, Sussex at age 72; FATHER: KAHTS, Carl Behrens, Born 11 Jul 1856, Died 21 Jan 1905? at age 48; MOTHER: COTTAM, Lucy, Born 25 Oct 1866, Died 28 Jul 1946 at age 79; Changed surname from Kahts to Bagot during First World War when there was strong anti-German sentiment. CHILDREN: 1. F BAGOT, Magdalen Louise, born 28 Apr 1933 in Johannesburg; Married 16 Mar 1957 to MOULD, Derek Arthur; 4 children 2. F BAGOT, Rosemary, born 28 Apr 1935; Married to JAMES, Harry; 2 children 3. F BAGOT, Margaret, born 28 Mar 1937; Married to SEARLE, Robin; 2 children -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Blog: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk
Good afternoon, Is there any listers researching the CRAIG family. I have now come across a number of CRAIGs and would like to see if they are linked. They are; Harold Lynn Burton CRAIG, no dates Robert CRAIG Glen Stuart CRAIG William CRAIG Any contacts would be appreciated Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
On 7 Mar 2015 at 8:16, Fay Lea wrote: > Hi Steve, > I can also not access the dropbox with the address below. Is anyone else having that problem? Here is the full URL: http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com/2015/03/indexing-books-of-lawrence- ggreen.html Because it splits over 2 lines, I made a short one: http://tinyurl.com/pvvrd2l You should also be able to see it if you go to http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com and scroll down until you see it. It seems that the people at GENI.COM have jumped the gun and are trying to hijack this project, so perhaps it isn't worth continuing -- maybe I'll just make my own index of the books that mention members of our family and leave it at that. I also seem not to be getting copies of my own messages on this list -- at least not for the last few days, it was OK before. That makes if very difficult to follow discussions on the various threads. -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Blog: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk
Hi Steve, I can also not access the dropbox with the address below. Cheers Fay -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steve Hayes via Sent: 07 March 2015 07:45 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lawrence G. Green indexing On 5 Mar 2015 at 6:42, Pat Frykberg wrote: > Steve, I see Fay has "when the journey's over" and I cannot raise > that site you gave me so if you don't mind I will pull out! I have > just had my computer updated and am dithering over new things. I do > wish these clever young men who come to fix things would NOT change > what I know was there. Now That is a sign of Anno Domini. I'm not sure why you could not connect to the site. But I've also made it available at another URL here: Indexing project for the books of Lawrence G. Green https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25096784/GreenNdxProj.pdf . Where you can download the description of the project and a sample of the index format. Comments welcome. On the African genealogy list someone has explained the significance of the 23 books index that has no page numbers -- it comes from a site where you can download those 23 books in electronic format, so there is no need for page number -- you can just download the book and search it: http://tinyurl.com/nseoy3p Lawrence G. Green's books and index (2015-03-06 01:49 PM) It still has the problem that the index appears to be taken from the printed indexes in the books and therefore is not complete. But in view of this I suggest that we concentrate mainly on indexing the books that are not on that list. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
On 5 Mar 2015 at 6:42, Pat Frykberg wrote: > Steve, I see Fay has "when the journey's over" and I cannot raise that site > you gave me so if you don't mind I will pull out! I have just had my computer > updated and am dithering over new things. I do wish these clever young men who > come to fix things would NOT change what I know was there. Now That is a sign > of Anno Domini. I'm not sure why you could not connect to the site. But I've also made it available at another URL here: Indexing project for the books of Lawrence G. Green https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25096784/GreenNdxProj.pdf Where you can download the description of the project and a sample of the index format. Comments welcome. On the African genealogy list someone has explained the significance of the 23 books index that has no page numbers -- it comes from a site where you can download those 23 books in electronic format, so there is no need for page number -- you can just download the book and search it: http://tinyurl.com/nseoy3p Lawrence G. Green's books and index (2015-03-06 01:49 PM) It still has the problem that the index appears to be taken from the printed indexes in the books and therefore is not complete. But in view of this I suggest that we concentrate mainly on indexing the books that are not on that list. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525
The link works fine for me. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: 01:22 AM EST, 03/07/2015 From: Fay Lea via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> To: <shayes@dunelm.org.uk>, "'Steve Hayes'" <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lawrence G. Green indexing Hi Steve, I can also not access the dropbox with the address below. Cheers Fay -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steve Hayes via Sent: 07 March 2015 07:45 AM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lawrence G. Green indexing On 5 Mar 2015 at 6:42, Pat Frykberg wrote: > Steve, I see Fay has "when the journey's over" and I cannot raise > that site you gave me so if you don't mind I will pull out! I have > just had my computer updated and am dithering over new things. I do > wish these clever young men who come to fix things would NOT change > what I know was there. Now That is a sign of Anno Domini. I'm not sure why you could not connect to the site. But I've also made it available at another URL here: Indexing project for the books of Lawrence G. Green https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25096784/GreenNdxProj.pdf . Where you can download the description of the project and a sample of the index format. Comments welcome. On the African genealogy list someone has explained the significance of the 23 books index that has no page numbers -- it comes from a site where you can download those 23 books in electronic format, so there is no need for page number -- you can just download the book and search it: http://tinyurl.com/nseoy3p Lawrence G. Green's books and index (2015-03-06 01:49 PM) It still has the problem that the index appears to be taken from the printed indexes in the books and therefore is not complete. But in view of this I suggest that we concentrate mainly on indexing the books that are not on that list. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Steve and Keith, This is a long shot but do you have, in your records, a Mrs. P R de Villiers, living in KOMGA, during 1975? She must have a JONES in her background as she went to the Museum in Kingwilliamstown, in 1975, looking for information on Edward Thomas Jones, who she claimed was the brother of her great grandfather. Unfortunately she did not name him and I am trying to find out who he is. Her address at the time was c/o Elliot Bros., Komga. I spoke to the firm but no one there remembers her. Any help would be great. Regards, Rob
On 5 Mar 2015 at 15:48, Keith Meintjes wrote: > They are all in the two-volume set by Malherbe and Malan. Hi Keith, Yes, a lot of the information I have on those families came from M&M. I know the De Villiers clan is huge, but was wondering if anyone on this list is working on or connected to the same families, in which case we might have cousins in common, or even be cousins of sorts. -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Blog: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk
On 5 Mar 2015 at 4:59, Irene de Villiers via wrote: > On Mar 5, 2015, at 1:41 AM, Paxie Kelsey via wrote: > > Please does anyone know who is doing "de Villiers" research in South Africa > > and if so, please send me a contact address for them. > > I am planning to do some but have only scratched the surface so far. > > Do you have a specific line of interest? > The original three de Villiers brothers who came out on the ship Zion, which > sailed 8 Jan 1689 from Holland, were Pierre de Villiers, Abraham de Villiers > (He had daughters, no son) and Jacob (Jacques) de Villiers, all three brothers > born near la Rochelie, and all three came with significant knowledge of wine > farming. Pierre and Jacob had lots of kids and have lots of descendants, as > you well know:-) We have quite a lot of people with the bDe Villiers surname in our family tree. None of them are direct ancestors, but various cousins married De Villiers, and they had quite a lot of descendants. Here are four of our De Villiers families -- does anyone rexcognise any of them? Are any of them in your own research? Family History System 5 Mar 2015 Merged Group Reports NAME: DE VILLIERS, Jan Pieter Gustaaf, Born 4 Oct 1825 in Cape Town, Died 29 Jul 1889 in Stellenbosch at age 63; FATHER: DE VILLIERS, Jan Petrus; MOTHER: DE VILLIERS, Anna Johanna; Wine farmer of Jonker's Hoek (marriage register) MOOC 6/9/389 1704. MARRIED 17 Dec 1849 in Stellenbosch, to MECHAU, Anna Johanna Catharina, Born 29 Sep 1829 in Cape Town, Died 29 Sep 1886 in Stellenbosch at age 57; FATHER: MECHAU, Gerhardus Nicolaas, Born 20 Nov 1800, Died 11 Jul 1854 at age 53; MOTHER: FLAMME, Francina Dorothea, Born 19 Jun 1807, Died 28 Jul 1886 at age 79 CHILDREN: 1. M DE VILLIERS, Jan Petrus Gerhardus, born 8 Sep 1850 in Stellenbosch, died 30 Jun 1915; Married 16 Apr 1872 to VAN BREDA, Anna Christina Jacoba; 3 children 2. M DE VILLIERS, Gerhardus Nicolaas, born 5 Apr 1852 in Stellenbosch, died Oct 1898; Married 5 Oct 1875 to VON BACKSTROM, Catharina Margaretha Magd.; 8 children 3. F DE VILLIERS, Francina Dorothea, born 20 May 1854 in Stellenbosch, died 11 Apr 1864 in Stellenbosch 4. M DE VILLIERS, Abraham Barend, born 18 Jan 1856 in Stellenbosch, died ???; Married 18 Nov 1891 to LIEBENBERG, Johanna Gertruida; 7 children 5. F DE VILLIERS, Anna Johanna, born 16 May 1857 in Stellenbosch, died ???; Married 18 Jan 1878 to BRUNT, Izaak Jakob de Villiers 6. F DE VILLIERS, Johanna Sophia Esther, born 18 Dec 1858 in Stellenbosch, died ??? 1937; Married to HAUPT, Gerhardus Nicholaas Mechau; 8 children 7. M DE VILLIERS, Johnnes Daniel Marthinus, born 9 Jun 1861 in Stellenbosch, died 17 Mar 1864 in Stellenbosch 8. F DE VILLIERS, Helena Elizabeth Jacoba, born 14 Jul 1863 in Stellenbosch, died 8 Jun 1871 in Stellenbosch 9. F DE VILLIERS, Francina Dorothea, born 2 Jul 1868 in Stellenbosch, died ???; Married to VOLSTEEDT, Petrus Johannes * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NAME: DE VILLIERS, Jan Frederick, Born 10 Sep 1860, Died ???; FATHER: DE VILLIERS, Isaac Tobias, Born 4 Sep 1823, Died 30 Mar 1890 at age 66; MOTHER: BAARTMAN, Huybrech Johanna Hester MARRIED 27 Jan 1891 in Kimberley, Cape Col, to BURNARD, Alida Maria Engela, Born 23 May 1858, Died ???; FATHER: BURNARD, Joseph Fredrik Fry, Born 30 Jan 1825, Died 14 Nov 1870 at age 45; MOTHER: BRINK, Maria Magdalena, Born 2 Sep 1829, Died 27 Dec 1887 at age 58 CHILDREN: 1. M DE VILLIERS, Isak Tobias Joseph, born 4 Apr 1893 in Vryburg, Cape Colony, died 15 Nov 1963 in Mayfair, Jhb; Married to MARITZ, Annie Margaret; 1 child 2. M DE VILLIERS, Joseph Frederik Fry Burnard, born 21 Dec 1898 in Turffontein, Jhb, died 9 Apr 1960 in Kempton Park; Married to HOLLIS, Gladys Eva * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NAME: DE VILLIERS, Jan Pieter, Born Jun 1851 in Hopefield, Cape, Died 12 Dec 1914 in Parys at age 63; FATHER: DE VILLIERS, Johannes Marthinus, Born 1 Aug 1819, Died 17 Jun 1897 at age 77; MOTHER: KOTZE, Maria Jacoba Gysberta, Born 20 Sep 1829, Died ??? MARRIED 17 Jun 1873 in Stellenbosch, to HAUPT, Paulina Petronella Albertina, Born 1 Aug 1853 in Stellenbosch, Died ??? 1936 in Olienfontein at age 82; FATHER: HAUPT, Philip Wouter Adriaan, Born 16 Feb 1817, Died 27 Aug 1873 at age 56; MOTHER: MECHAU, Johanna Jurgina Sophia, Born 21 Feb 1827, Died 1 Oct 1870 at age 43; Born on farm Rustenburg, near Stellenbo sch. Bap, 21 Aug 1853, NGK, Stellenbosch. CHILDREN: 1. M DE VILLIERS, Johannes Marthinus, born 4 Sep 1873 in Stellenbosch, died ??? 1878? 2. M DE VILLIERS, Philip Wouter, born 12 Jul 1875 in Rouxville, died 30 Dec 1953 in Parys; Married 5 Jan 1904 to TAYLOR, Rachel Susanna Dorothea; 5 children 3. F DE VILLIERS, Johanna Jurgina Sophia, born 19 Sep 1878 in Stellenbosch, died ???; Married 5 May 1928 to VAN ROOYEN, Jan Abraham; 1 child 4. M DE VILLIERS, Abraham Barend, born 21 Jan 1883 in Stellenbosch, died 4 Apr 1950 in Smithfield, OFS, RSA; Married 29 Jul 1916 to BOSHOFF, Emily Elizabeth; 4 children * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NAME: DE VILLIERS, Abraham Stephanus Nicolaas, Born 29 Jun 1869 in Victoria West, Died 29 May 1943 in Paarl at age 73; FATHER: DE VILLIERS, Abraham Barend, Born 16 Feb 1819, Died ??? 1890 at age 70; MOTHER: DE WET, Martha Jacoba Catharina, Died 31 Jul 1923 MARRIED, to VAN DER BYL, Catharina Maria, Born 4 Jun 1878 in Stellenbosch, Died ???; FATHER: VAN DER BYL, Johannes Jacobus George, Born 4 Feb 1842, Died 27 Jun 1910 at age 68; MOTHER: MECHAU, Catharina Maria, Born 28 Sep 1848, Died 24 Mar 1903 at age 54 CHILDREN: 1. F DE VILLIERS, Anna Louisa Helena, born 12 Apr 1896, died ??? 1898 2. F DE VILLIERS, Martha Jacoba Catharina, born 26 Apr 1897, died ???; Married to MCCALLUM, Norman 3. M DE VILLIERS, Donald Abraham, born 28 Aug 1901 in Paarl, died ??? 4. F DE VILLIERS, Kathleen Millicent, born 1 Jan 1903 in Paarl, died ???; Married to GREEN, Douglas 5. F DE VILLIERS, Stephanie, born 5 Sep 1906 in Paarl, died ???; Married to REYNOLDS, William 6. F DE VILLIERS, Joan Anneleen, born 3 Nov 1910 in Paarl -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525
Steve, They are all in the two-volume set by Malherbe and Malan. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: 02:40 PM EST, 03/05/2015 From: Steve Hayes via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> To: Irene de Villiers via <south-africa@rootsweb.com>, Irene de Villiers <furryboots@icehouse.net>, south-africa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] de Villiers research On 5 Mar 2015 at 4:59, Irene de Villiers via wrote: > On Mar 5, 2015, at 1:41 AM, Paxie Kelsey via wrote: > > Please does anyone know who is doing "de Villiers" research in South Africa > > and if so, please send me a contact address for them. > > I am planning to do some but have only scratched the surface so far. > > Do you have a specific line of interest? > The original three de Villiers brothers who came out on the ship Zion, which > sailed 8 Jan 1689 from Holland, were Pierre de Villiers, Abraham de Villiers > (He had daughters, no son) and Jacob (Jacques) de Villiers, all three brothers > born near la Rochelie, and all three came with significant knowledge of wine > farming. Pierre and Jacob had lots of kids and have lots of descendants, as > you well know:-) We have quite a lot of people with the bDe Villiers surname in our family tree. None of them are direct ancestors, but various cousins married De Villiers, and they had quite a lot of descendants. Here are four of our De Villiers families -- does anyone rexcognise any of them? Are any of them in your own research? Family History System 5 Mar 2015 Merged Group Reports NAME: DE VILLIERS, Jan Pieter Gustaaf, Born 4 Oct 1825 in Cape Town, Died 29 Jul 1889 in Stellenbosch at age 63; FATHER: DE VILLIERS, Jan Petrus; MOTHER: DE VILLIERS, Anna Johanna; Wine farmer of Jonker's Hoek (marriage register) MOOC 6/9/389 1704. MARRIED 17 Dec 1849 in Stellenbosch, to MECHAU, Anna Johanna Catharina, Born 29 Sep 1829 in Cape Town, Died 29 Sep 1886 in Stellenbosch at age 57; FATHER: MECHAU, Gerhardus Nicolaas, Born 20 Nov 1800, Died 11 Jul 1854 at age 53; MOTHER: FLAMME, Francina Dorothea, Born 19 Jun 1807, Died 28 Jul 1886 at age 79 CHILDREN: 1. M DE VILLIERS, Jan Petrus Gerhardus, born 8 Sep 1850 in Stellenbosch, died 30 Jun 1915; Married 16 Apr 1872 to VAN BREDA, Anna Christina Jacoba; 3 children 2. M DE VILLIERS, Gerhardus Nicolaas, born 5 Apr 1852 in Stellenbosch, died Oct 1898; Married 5 Oct 1875 to VON BACKSTROM, Catharina Margaretha Magd.; 8 children 3. F DE VILLIERS, Francina Dorothea, born 20 May 1854 in Stellenbosch, died 11 Apr 1864 in Stellenbosch 4. M DE VILLIERS, Abraham Barend, born 18 Jan 1856 in Stellenbosch, died ???; Married 18 Nov 1891 to LIEBENBERG, Johanna Gertruida; 7 children 5. F DE VILLIERS, Anna Johanna, born 16 May 1857 in Stellenbosch, died ???; Married 18 Jan 1878 to BRUNT, Izaak Jakob de Villiers 6. F DE VILLIERS, Johanna Sophia Esther, born 18 Dec 1858 in Stellenbosch, died ??? 1937; Married to HAUPT, Gerhardus Nicholaas Mechau; 8 children 7. M DE VILLIERS, Johnnes Daniel Marthinus, born 9 Jun 1861 in Stellenbosch, died 17 Mar 1864 in Stellenbosch 8. F DE VILLIERS, Helena Elizabeth Jacoba, born 14 Jul 1863 in Stellenbosch, died 8 Jun 1871 in Stellenbosch 9. F DE VILLIERS, Francina Dorothea, born 2 Jul 1868 in Stellenbosch, died ???; Married to VOLSTEEDT, Petrus Johannes * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NAME: DE VILLIERS, Jan Frederick, Born 10 Sep 1860, Died ???; FATHER: DE VILLIERS, Isaac Tobias, Born 4 Sep 1823, Died 30 Mar 1890 at age 66; MOTHER: BAARTMAN, Huybrech Johanna Hester MARRIED 27 Jan 1891 in Kimberley, Cape Col, to BURNARD, Alida Maria Engela, Born 23 May 1858, Died ???; FATHER: BURNARD, Joseph Fredrik Fry, Born 30 Jan 1825, Died 14 Nov 1870 at age 45; MOTHER: BRINK, Maria Magdalena, Born 2 Sep 1829, Died 27 Dec 1887 at age 58 CHILDREN: 1. M DE VILLIERS, Isak Tobias Joseph, born 4 Apr 1893 in Vryburg, Cape Colony, died 15 Nov 1963 in Mayfair, Jhb; Married to MARITZ, Annie Margaret; 1 child 2. M DE VILLIERS, Joseph Frederik Fry Burnard, born 21 Dec 1898 in Turffontein, Jhb, died 9 Apr 1960 in Kempton Park; Married to HOLLIS, Gladys Eva * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NAME: DE VILLIERS, Jan Pieter, Born Jun 1851 in Hopefield, Cape, Died 12 Dec 1914 in Parys at age 63; FATHER: DE VILLIERS, Johannes Marthinus, Born 1 Aug 1819, Died 17 Jun 1897 at age 77; MOTHER: KOTZE, Maria Jacoba Gysberta, Born 20 Sep 1829, Died ??? MARRIED 17 Jun 1873 in Stellenbosch, to HAUPT, Paulina Petronella Albertina, Born 1 Aug 1853 in Stellenbosch, Died ??? 1936 in Olienfontein at age 82; FATHER: HAUPT, Philip Wouter Adriaan, Born 16 Feb 1817, Died 27 Aug 1873 at age 56; MOTHER: MECHAU, Johanna Jurgina Sophia, Born 21 Feb 1827, Died 1 Oct 1870 at age 43; Born on farm Rustenburg, near Stellenbo sch. Bap, 21 Aug 1853, NGK, Stellenbosch. CHILDREN: 1. M DE VILLIERS, Johannes Marthinus, born 4 Sep 1873 in Stellenbosch, died ??? 1878? 2. M DE VILLIERS, Philip Wouter, born 12 Jul 1875 in Rouxville, died 30 Dec 1953 in Parys; Married 5 Jan 1904 to TAYLOR, Rachel Susanna Dorothea; 5 children 3. F DE VILLIERS, Johanna Jurgina Sophia, born 19 Sep 1878 in Stellenbosch, died ???; Married 5 May 1928 to VAN ROOYEN, Jan Abraham; 1 child 4. M DE VILLIERS, Abraham Barend, born 21 Jan 1883 in Stellenbosch, died 4 Apr 1950 in Smithfield, OFS, RSA; Married 29 Jul 1916 to BOSHOFF, Emily Elizabeth; 4 children * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NAME: DE VILLIERS, Abraham Stephanus Nicolaas, Born 29 Jun 1869 in Victoria West, Died 29 May 1943 in Paarl at age 73; FATHER: DE VILLIERS, Abraham Barend, Born 16 Feb 1819, Died ??? 1890 at age 70; MOTHER: DE WET, Martha Jacoba Catharina, Died 31 Jul 1923 MARRIED, to VAN DER BYL, Catharina Maria, Born 4 Jun 1878 in Stellenbosch, Died ???; FATHER: VAN DER BYL, Johannes Jacobus George, Born 4 Feb 1842, Died 27 Jun 1910 at age 68; MOTHER: MECHAU, Catharina Maria, Born 28 Sep 1848, Died 24 Mar 1903 at age 54 CHILDREN: 1. F DE VILLIERS, Anna Louisa Helena, born 12 Apr 1896, died ??? 1898 2. F DE VILLIERS, Martha Jacoba Catharina, born 26 Apr 1897, died ???; Married to MCCALLUM, Norman 3. M DE VILLIERS, Donald Abraham, born 28 Aug 1901 in Paarl, died ??? 4. F DE VILLIERS, Kathleen Millicent, born 1 Jan 1903 in Paarl, died ???; Married to GREEN, Douglas 5. F DE VILLIERS, Stephanie, born 5 Sep 1906 in Paarl, died ???; Married to REYNOLDS, William 6. F DE VILLIERS, Joan Anneleen, born 3 Nov 1910 in Paarl -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Paxie The Huguenot Society (see http://www.hugenoot.org.za/begin-e.htm) has published an extensive register (two volumes) on the De Villiers Family. Kind regards Daniel Jacobs Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na www.gendata.co.za Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Paxie Kelsey via <south-africa@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Hello, > > > > Please does anyone know who is doing "de Villiers" research in South Africa > and if so, please send me a contact address for them. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Paxie > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hello, Please does anyone know who is doing "de Villiers" research in South Africa and if so, please send me a contact address for them. Kind regards Paxie --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Hello All, Just to advise you should you wish to visit the Pretoria Archives tomorrow Friday 6 March 2015 that they will be closing early at 12 Midday in order to carry out fumigation. Cheers Paxie --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Steve, I see Fay has "when the journey's over" and I cannot raise that site you gave me so if you don't mind I will pull out! I have just had my computer updated and am dithering over new things. I do wish these clever young men who come to fix things would NOT change what I know was there. Now That is a sign of Anno Domini. But I do wish you every success in this venture. I read every one of his books years ago, Loved them. Pat -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Hayes via" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 1:19 AM To: <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Lawrence G. Green indexing > On 4 Mar 2015 at 13:26, Fay Lea wrote: > >> Hi Steve >> These are the books available to me. >> >> 1. A taste of the South Easter > > Thanks Fay, > > If you get a chance, could you work on the first one? > > I have finished "Full many a glorious morning" and am working on "Thunder > on > the Blaauwberg" now. > > If you use a spreadsheet program, it will often repeat the book title if > you > type the first letter, which saves typing. > > If there is anything in inverted commas (like nicknames) it's probably > best > to leave them out. > > I usually start with the printed index in the book, then go through the > book > adding things that the printed index has left out. Sometimes the printed > index gives only initials, whole the text gives full names, for example, > and > so I add those. > > I hope this is helpful, and also to anyone else who might be interested in > joining in. > > > -- > Steve Hayes > E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk > Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com > Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm > Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 > Fax: 086-548-2525 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1434 / Virus Database: 4257/8723 - Release Date: 03/04/15 >
Yes, Contact Juna Malherbe and Alet Malan at th Huguenot Museum. http://www.hugenoot.org.za/publications.htm I have a number of copies of de Villiers family histories published over the years. Keith ------ Original Message ------ Received: 04:45 AM EST, 03/05/2015 From: Paxie Kelsey via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> To: "Rootsweb SA" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] de Villiers research Hello, Please does anyone know who is doing "de Villiers" research in South Africa and if so, please send me a contact address for them. Kind regards Paxie --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On Mar 5, 2015, at 1:41 AM, Paxie Kelsey via wrote: > Hello, > > > > Please does anyone know who is doing "de Villiers" research in South Africa > and if so, please send me a contact address for them. I am planning to do some but have only scratched the surface so far. Do you have a specific line of interest? The original three de Villiers brothers who came out on the ship Zion, which sailed 8 Jan 1689 from Holland, were Pierre de Villiers, Abraham de Villiers (He had daughters, no son) and Jacob (Jacques) de Villiers, all three brothers born near la Rochelie, and all three came with significant knowledge of wine farming. Pierre and Jacob had lots of kids and have lots of descendants, as you well know:-) My line is from Pierre de Villiers. My ex is grandson of chief justice Sir Etienne de VIlliers, in this line. Oddly I have more information on the Jacob line, very little for Pierre. There must be people who have done a lot of research already though. Perhaps you have already done much? Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.Furryboots.info (Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy) "Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
On 4 Mar 2015 at 13:26, Fay Lea wrote: > Hi Steve > These are the books available to me. > > 1. A taste of the South Easter Thanks Fay, If you get a chance, could you work on the first one? I have finished "Full many a glorious morning" and am working on "Thunder on the Blaauwberg" now. If you use a spreadsheet program, it will often repeat the book title if you type the first letter, which saves typing. If there is anything in inverted commas (like nicknames) it's probably best to leave them out. I usually start with the printed index in the book, then go through the book adding things that the printed index has left out. Sometimes the printed index gives only initials, whole the text gives full names, for example, and so I add those. I hope this is helpful, and also to anyone else who might be interested in joining in. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525
Hi Steve These are the books available to me. 1. A taste of the South Easter 2. Beyond the city limits 3. Eight Bells at Salamander 4. Great African Mysteries 5. Great North Road 6. Harbours of Memory 7. I heard the old men say 8. Karoo 9. Lords of the last Frontier 10. Old Africa Untamed 11. On Wings of Fire 12. The Coast of Treasure 13. Theres a secret hidden away 14. These wonders to behold 15. Thunder on the Blaauwberg 16. Under a sky like flame 17. When the journeys over 18. Where Men can dream Kind regards Fay --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Bart, I have (a long time ago) unearthed the following concerning these people some of whom are distant relatives (something like 2nd cousins 5x removed and therefore I did not even noted the source although I would agree that I should have!- it could have been from Prof Marx's work): ----------------------------------------- Dirk Marx also spelt Marcks came to the Cape from Holzweiler, in the dist., of Erkelenz, Germany. He was a soldier from 1725 to 1731 and later an agriculturist and hunter around Mosselbay, died 1791.After he was discharged from his military duties in 1731 little was known of his activities, and he only appeared in the 1733 and '34 tax returns as being in the possession of a 'snaphaan' and a 'degen', from 1735 to 1738 he acquired in addition, a pistol and a horse, the tools required by a hunter. The returns showed that by 1739 he had accumulated 20 head of cattle and aslave, which was later increased with more slaves, cattle and sheep, indicating that he was turning to cattle farming, but leaving his slaves to tend the cattle whilst he continued his hunting activities. He was known to be a renowned hunter with an extensive knowledge of the interior. In 1758 he bought the farm 'Hagelkraal' and an adjacent grazing farm 'Ruiterskraal' situated North-west of Mossel Bay near Robinson pass, and being one of the very first loan farms in the Mosselbay district strategically situated on the only route through the Attaquaskloof pass to the wild interior, it became the regular outspan place for hunters and travelers. He was frequently visited by famousadventurer botanists like, Thunberg, Sparrman, Swellengrebel and van Plettenberg on their pioneer expeditionary studies of South African Flora and Fauna. The Attaquaskloof Pass over the Oteniqua mountains, the only passage through to the interior, was made by following and clearing an elephant path through the mountains in 1689 by Schrijver, the leader of a government expedition. This path was revealed to him by the local Attaquas (Bushman), he cleared and widened the trail, which enabled easier access for ox drawn wagons through the rugged Outeniqua mountains, becoming the only important road for the next 150 years until 1869. Because of his knowledge of the regions beyond his farm, the Governor Ryk van Tulbagh, requisitioned Dirk Marx to search for a shipwreck reported to have taken place along the coast, his search took him as far as the Groot Visrivier without any signs of a wreck, and it was decided that there was no substance in the report, even though two hunters had been given a pistol and other articles by bushmen, which they maintained they had stolen from two stranded sailors. It was only years later that Andreas Sparrman, the Swedish naturalist, wrote to say he had read a report in an English newspaper, of an English vessel the 'Doddington' shipwrecked in July or August 1755, off Bird Island in Algoa Bay, and of the two sailors that had been robbed by Hottentots but were allowed to row back naked to the wreck where they constructed a larger makeshift boat from remnants of the wreck, enabling them to sail further up the coast where they encountered friendly tribesmen (possibly Xhosa) who were in possession of large quantities of ivory tusks and cattle, the newspaper article made no mention of how they found their way back to England. In tracing Dirk Marx's origins Prof. F.W. Marx found that he was from a village, Holzweiler, in the district of Erkelenz in the Duchy of Jülich. Holtzweiler is situated in the western region of present day Germany. Research revealed that he was baptized Joannes Theodorus Marx on the 8 October 1703 in the Catholic community of Holtzweiler, he was the s.o. Gerhart Marx, and Sybilla Cönen, his paternal grand parents were Joannes Marx and Agnes Dachweiler, his maternal grand parents were Dederich Cönen and Anna Arretz. The name Dirk is a distortion of Theodorich, short forms of the name used in Germany are: Derich, Dietrich, and Dederich. The Dutch forms are Diederi(c)k, Deri(c)k, and Dir(c)k, the latter was obviously used in the early Cape for simplicity. He signed his name on a contract in 1764 as Dirk Marcks, then on the three copies of his will, as Dirk Marcks in 1745; Dirck Marx, 1771; and Dirk Marxin 1791. Although his names, Joannes Theodorus, were never used in South Africa, they were never-the-less carried on in the naming of his children and grandchildren, the Joannes became Johannes, the names of his second and third sons, and his first son was named Theodorus. Marr: abt 1740 (common law) Dorothea Maria Becker, d.o. Peter Becker from Konings- Bergen and wid.o. They had 3 sons and 3 daughters NOTE: No record could be found to prove that Dirk Marx was legally married to Dorothea Becker, but the following list reflects the correct baptism names, dates and places, of their children: The first two children had 'onecht' written next to their entries, possibly indicating that the parents weren't married at that stage. ---------------------------- Hope it helps Regards Johan Prof JC Morgenthal Rozendallaan 10 Uniepark STELLENBOSCH 7600 Tel: 021 887 0888 Sel: 072 379 5906 Vanne/Surnames: Morgenthal/Morgendaal; Kotzè; Schoeman; Badenhorst en verwante familie -----Original Message----- From: Bart Simon via Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 6:29 PM To: RW RSA Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Ferreira [!!!] Hello: The [Thomas Ignatius Ferreira 17-11-1743] m. [Maria Dorothea Marx 03-04-1746]: Is her name [Maria Dorothea Marx] or [Dorothea Maria Marx] ?. Also, their dg [Dorothea Maria Ferreira], is she [Dorothea Maria Ferreira] or [Maria Dorothea Ferreira] ?. Thanks - Bart. ================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have "When the Journey's Over" 1972. I will do this but I do need A LOT of time. Pat -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Hayes via" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 3:52 AM To: <SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Proposed indexing project: books of Lawrence G. Green > A few days ago I mentioned the books of Lawrence G. Green, and that I had > found some incomplete and unsatisfactory indexes for them. > > I have proposed a project for indexing them -- details here: > > http://t.co/AF58UOuLXW > > If anyone who has access to any of the books of Lawrence G. Green would be > interested in taking part in such a project, please let me know. > > I hoped it might be possible to discuss this on the ZAF Indexers list, but > I > don't seem to be able to access that one, so if enough people are > interested > to enable the project to get off the ground, I might start a special list > for > it. > > > -- > Keep well, > Steve Hayes > Blog: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com > Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm > E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1434 / Virus Database: 4257/8710 - Release Date: 03/02/15 >