Hi Dinah, You mentioned that you thought Harold may have been born in London or Oxford. There is a Harry Shaw, 1Q 1881, St Olave, 1d 228 According to the index entry on Ancestry this refers to St Olave, Southwark (in Surrey but effectively London, just south of the Thames) The index entry is presented a little better at FreeBMD Hope this helps, Geoff On 22 May 2012, at 07:58, SCJ Bethune wrote: > Dinah > > Henry Charles Shaw and his family (5 children) were living in Pipestone Manitoba in 1891 when the census was taken. There is also a Mary Anne Morris with the the family plus a governess and a domestic servant. All were born in England. Pipestone is a small town in the grain farming area in the southwest corner of Manitoba. > > The census is on the Library and Archives (LAC) website at: www.collectionscanada.gc.ca under 'c' for census. The 1891 census is name searchable. It appears in two forms - pdf (which will allow you to save the page) or jpeg (which looks better); both can be magnified. There are two pages attached to each image, so be sure to search both. > > Harold was listed aged 8 and Lionel was 9. The census was taken on the 2nd May 1891 so Harold could be born as late as 1st May 1883 and still be 8. The Shaws appear not to be in Canada after the 1891 census. I suspect > that they travelled on perhaps going down to the US or back to England. > > There are other censuses also but 1901, 1906 and 1911 are not name searchable. To search those ones put the words "automated genealogy" into your browser and follow the instructions. These indexes were done by volunteers from census sheets that were not easy to transcribe mainly because many of the census takers were dealing with unfamiliar accents and spellings. The handwriting often is dreadful especially the later censuses. For these censuses a search brings up a transcribed list for each census page. At the top of the list is the link to the relevant image on the LAC site. > > Civil registration in Canada is called Vital Statistics and is a provincial responsibility. This means that you need to search in each province's website (if they actually have an index to the registrations) for the births, marriages and deaths. Manitoba does have an index. A very useful additional piece of information is given in the birth index. Use > the "Detail View" button. Most times the mother's full maiden name is > given under "Mother's Details". > > Its database index address is: vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php > > British Columbia also has a very good historic index at: > bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm > > Susan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dinah <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, May 21, 2012 6:39 pm > Subject: [SOG-UK] Looking for my greandfather Harold Shaw > To: [email protected] > >> >> I am looking for my grandfather’s birth record and cannot locate >> it anywhere. His name was Harold “Jack” Shaw. Father Henry >> Charles Harold Shaw Mother Harriet Morris. I have not been >> able to find anything under Harold. He was born in London >> or possibly Oxford where his father was the headmaster at >> Carlton Lodge School located at 239/241 Iffley Rd. in Headington >> (district),Oxfordshire, England. The 1881 census lists the >> family as residing at that address. >> >> Henry Charles Shaw had 9 children the last of whom was my >> grandfather Harold Shaw. The second youngest child, Lionel >> Shaw, was born 27 Jul 1880 in Oxford. Lionel Shaw is >> listed in the 1881 England census as an infant. The family >> immigrated to Quebec, Canada arriving there on the ship >> “Samaritan” on 10 Aug 1883. My grandfather was listed as 2 years >> old on the ship’s manifest. I calculate that he must have >> been born sometime in 1881. >> >> I cannot find him on any of the websites provided birth >> information. Henry Charles Shaw and his father Robert Shaw >> were baptized and married at St. Maryleborne in London. >> Any other records I could check? Different parish >> directories, city directories? Go to Oxford? Any >> assistance would be much appreciated. >> >> I live in Guatemala and will be in London from August 4 through >> August 22 to work on my genealogy (and Olympics, of course). >> >> Thank you. >> >> Dinah Shaw >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >