| "Catherine Low" <cnlow@telusplanet.net> wrote : | | | > Lorne Pearcey wrote: | > | >On the 1841 census for part of Leicestershire we have come across several | >entries >in the "Whether born in same county" column that seem to read | >"V&T". | > Has anyone else come across this, and more importantly, does anyone know | > what >it stands for? | | There have been assorted suggestions about this but has anyone else actually | looked at the record ? What is the reference to the original image ? Much of | the script from that time is not quite what we might expect today - an | apparent 'V' could very well be 'N' for instance. | | John B | Leic., Eng ...and the T could be an I. Giving - Not born in this county and Irish. Chris

Bearing in mind that the original question did indeed use the phrase "seem to read", Chris' suggestion sounds very plausible. Unless the questioner chooses to make an example image available, any further speculation seems totally pointless. > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Watts [mailto:ml@ctwatts.plus.com] > Sent: 28 January 2006 21:55 > To: SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SoG] 1841 Census Query > > ...and the T could be an I. > Giving - Not born in this county and Irish. > > Chris

Just to be quite clear, looking at some 1841 Leicester pages on Origins, we are talking about a pair of columns. The first is headed Whether Born in same County, the second, Whether Born in Scotland, Ireland or Foreign Parts. The first usually has y, Y or yes, or n, N or No (often very curly decorated handwriting), the no entries often followed by a tick. Some No entries are followed by an S, I or F in the second column, though all three can look very similar in curly handwriting, except for the usual cross bar on the F. Quite often there are other ticks and marks jotted down by the clerks counting different categories of person. In most cases despite the variation of the different enumerators' handwriting it is possible to identify the letter. As an example of an unclear letter however, I did note on one sheet http://www.originsnetwork.com/BritishOrigins/BOShowC1841Image.aspx?DI=HO107-0601&ID=0309 in the Foreign etc column a letter which most resembled a giant "small a", but probably was C I for Channel Islands. (I hope the link works correctly for anyone with a subscription.) It certainly does not resemble the enumerator's S, F or A elsewhere on the sheet and looks too much to be just I. Someone will correct me if I am being stupid here! I also note that Origins offers on the search screen a drop down list of possible Birth Places, among which is W I for West Indies, which some helpful enumerator might possibly have used. I suppose this could look a bit like V+T in handwriting...? If the original enquirer will post a link to their page on Origins I am willing to have a look and see what I think. Ian Carter On 1/29/06, PeterGoodey <peter.goodey.gen@gmail.com> wrote: > > Bearing in mind that the original question did indeed use the phrase "seem > to read", Chris' suggestion sounds very plausible. > > Unless the questioner chooses to make an example image available, any > further speculation seems totally pointless. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Watts [mailto:ml@ctwatts.plus.com] > > Sent: 28 January 2006 21:55 > > To: SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [SoG] 1841 Census Query > > > > > ...and the T could be an I. > > Giving - Not born in this county and Irish. > > > > Chris > >