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    1. Re: [SOG-UK] FMP training
    2. MILLARD A.R.
    3. > From: David Beakhust > Sent: 01 May 2014 15:44 > > Most of the visionofbritain stuff is closed to me, as joe public, and > the > rest seemed to be suffering from broken links today, but i see that > some of > the data only goes back to 1906. I don't understand why you say this. I've never found any part of the site inaccessible from home, and the principle has always been that it is freely accessible because of its partial funding by HLF. For example, the details about Shipston on Stour RD can be found here: http://www.visionofbritain.org/unit/10139612#tab02 along with maps of its boundaries overlaid on modern and historical maps: http://www.visionofbritain.org/unit/10139612/boundary If there is data that only goes back to 1906, that will be because it was only collected from that date. The site covers administrative units from 1801 onwards and they are extending back to earlier periods. Best wishes Andrew -- Andrew Millard - A.R.Millard@durham.ac.uk Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/ + ../LND/ Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/Bodimeade/ My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/

    05/01/2014 09:11:26
    1. Re: [SOG-UK] FMP training
    2. David Beakhust
    3. Aha! Finally tracked it down to http://www.visionofbritain.org/unit/10139612 using advanced search. To be fair, my fault, i had missed the advanced search, and what is restricted is the underlying data, only accessible to educational establishments. Possibly more for performance than rights reasons! But anyone wanting to create a tool that manipulates the data would I suppose need data access. This source also indicates explicitly the possibility that a RegD county can differ from the administrative county, which sorts a reason why only warwickshire should match. Thanks also for the tip that you can as i suspected cajole fmp to search for a registration district using a keyword, but not within the gro index datasets alone- only if others are included, so that the keyword field is available on the search screen. It follows that the query exists on the underlying database, just that you cannot specify it - bringing us right back to the "navigation problem". ***Come on FMP, give us an advanced search!*** There are of course cases where the place itself may be matched but not the REGD, and vice versa. But that is not FMP's fault, even though it affects the effectiveness of workarounds. Example, Salisbury between 1837 and 1850 includes just 3 parishes but not the cathedral. After 1851 Salisbury RegD disappears altogether for a few years, becoming merged with Alderbury. Then Salisbury reappears, including more or less what is in Alderbury, but now including the Cathedral. Searching with a keyword Salisbury just after 1851 should return no hits in the GRO index as the district did not exist. As i say, not FMPs fault (for a change). Genuki reveals all the gruesome detail in a way i find most clear. So by asking to search for registration district, i realise that i do need to be very careful what i wish for! Dave Beakhust On 1 May 2014 16:14:09 "MILLARD A.R." <a.r.millard@durham.ac.uk> wrote: > > From: David Beakhust > > Sent: 01 May 2014 15:44 > > > > Most of the visionofbritain stuff is closed to me, as joe public, and > > the > > rest seemed to be suffering from broken links today, but i see that > > some of > > the data only goes back to 1906. > > I don't understand why you say this. I've never found any part of the site inaccessible from home, and the principle has always been that it is freely accessible because of its partial funding by HLF. For example, the details about Shipston on Stour RD can be found here: > http://www.visionofbritain.org/unit/10139612#tab02 > along with maps of its boundaries overlaid on modern and historical maps: > http://www.visionofbritain.org/unit/10139612/boundary > If there is data that only goes back to 1906, that will be because it was only collected from that date. The site covers administrative units from 1801 onwards and they are extending back to earlier periods. > > > Best wishes > > Andrew > -- > Andrew Millard - A.R.Millard@durham.ac.uk > Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk > Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/ + ../LND/ > Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org > Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/Bodimeade/ > My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/01/2014 12:14:21